I am tired of being a responsible person if I am going to be the person the damn liberal-progressives tax to bring this state back into “balance”.

Basically, Ed, I don’t like your attitude. The people of the state have told the state government, trim do not tax. If they cannot, then we are bankrupt. We need bankruptcy protection while we trim out of control welfare, out of control and extremely ineffective education, and all the other socialist programs.

Watch them try to panic the state by claiming they’ll have to trim law enforcement and release prisoners before they trim what they SHOULD trim.

{^_^}

It’s time for Californians to grow up. They have demanded services and refused to pay for them, and while the legislature is hardly blameless for the result, they’re not the entire cause of it, either.

Ed, nobody pays for these service who needs them. Like most of the United States under the control of the Democrats, “the rich” pay for the services, and those services are provided for free to those who are “not rich”.

Since the Dems have, wherever they have power, done their level best to ensure that 51%+ of the voting population is classified as “not rich”, those voters have a vested interest in maintaining the status quo, in which they get the cafeteria of services for which they do not have to pay.

The problem isn’t just in California — its nationwide.

That’s why emergency rooms are under such stress — nobody is obligated to pay for the service. But when you point the finger at California, look around at all the other emergency rooms across the nation and tell me that they aren’t under the same kinds of stresses. Since health care is now a “right”, and that “right” is balanced on the backs of private companies (the companies that run hospitals), the problem is not a California problem, it’s a national one.

The thing that ticked the most voters off here was the 9+% “use tax” (aka “sales tax”) we now have on most items — a tax I feel is great because it is distributed evenly across all income levels. Ditto for the DMV fees — which the Gubernator had to apologize to Gray Davis about when he acquiesced to raising them. Taxes and fees (“fees” being the new way governments here get to raise taxes under Prop 13) which are evenly distributed across the population are the best way of, in the end, assuring that government is lean.

This isn’t just a California thing — it’s true everywhere 51% or more don’t pay taxes and vote for Obamanoids.

The LA Times called California “Too Big to Fail” in a headline today. Personally, when the two Representatives from Montana are put on the spot about bailing out California, I fully expect them to listen to their Montana constituents and “toe the line”. Multiply Montana by every other small-to-mid sized State in the Union (and possibly add in New York — why would even New York Democrats pay for their left coast “allies”?) and I think the LA Times is whistling in the wind. Obama will give California its allocated dose of Stimulus for free, but don’t expect any more freebies once hooked.

Selling the Ocean front property in the state-owned desert state parks just west of Nevada and Arizona might help offset the costs of recovery though.

… a person would be a fool for calling someone else a fool for staying

nico on May 21, 2009 at 3:00 PM

Translation: Who’s the fool, fool???

To them, only the little people have to balance a checkbook – not them. They purposely put forth these crazy legislative agends that drive small business owners out of the state by leaps and bounds; and they hurt the people they purport to help by allowing non-citizens to obtain the same benefits for food, housing, schooling, and medical BEFORE American citizens get a chance for the same. Like they are a priority.

Our troubles seemed to bubble to the surface four years ago when it because apparent that there are at least 20 to 30 million illegal aliens living here in CA alone, not just the USA. I know this because I am being crowded every where I go by non-english speaking people’s with non-Castillian Spanish accents no matter where I am in my local area (the East San Francisco Bay Area). Rarely do I hear anyone speaking English around me anymore.

That, my friends, is the real reason for the massive budget shortfalls we are experiencing. LA County released a Report a month or so ago admitting it costs them $1 Billion per month to service the illegal aliens living in that county alone. Times that figure by x-amount of counties (of course adjusting for the true numbers of enrollees in the other counties), and I bet you will find the overall number is very close to the overall budget shortfall.

BTW, I have nothing against hardworking folks just wanting better for themselves. I disagree with people breaking the law by not coming here legally and compounding it by using someone else’s SSN # which is then identity theft. That is two crimes per person, and that is too much.

So, I do not believe in blanket amnesty because it does not work (look at 1986 results to see my point).

I know that there are millions of decent people in California with conservative sensibilities, who have been responsible in their votes and their actions. And I know that they will be the least affected by a disaster there, because they are much more self-sufficient.

Two little sentences and, voila!, 6,000,000 responsible California voters (and honest, hard-working Americans) are given the common courtesy of not being branded mental deficients. Thank you for that.

And, with that, I’ll move on.

I know that there are millions of decent people in California with conservative sensibilities, who have been responsible in their votes and their actions. And I know that they will be the least affected by a disaster there, because they are much more self-sufficient.

I also know that the worthless scum which suck up government services there without contributing to that society, and who benefit from the cheerleading of millionaire liberals there, will be slapped hard, and will quickly see their leftist patrons running for the hills to leave them twisting.

Better be armed and ready, folks.

have absolutely no idea what that means.

outOfElement on May 21, 2009 at 3:58 PM

Excuse me. I just think conservatives in this state need to band together instead of lighting out for greener pastures. I’m not one of those who thinks the end is nigh. It’s not armageddon. California will never be God’s gift to fiscal responsibility, but I think everything has its cycles. It will lumber rightward. It has to. Sense will come of nonsense, though certainly not overnight. I thought that was germane to your common sense reference.

Proof that pure democracy is pure lunacy, perhaps?

nico on May 21, 2009 at 3:22 PM

I have absolutely no idea what that means.

can’t help myself. I was infected with the Common Sense virus at an early age. I also amd a born-and-bred Texan that has only spent 10 years in California, so the stupid here hasn’t quite gotten to me yet.

outOfElement on May 21, 2009 at 1:38 PM

“Flee for the hills!”. Never seen conservatives so eager to throw in the towel. And accuse fellow conservatives of stupidity for not following the crowd. Is this a “Woe is Me” branch I haven’t heard of? Talk about a lack of imagination. Or guts. Run away! Run away!

Sat on the bench of the bench team huh? (17,000,000 did not vote),
I had three businesses in Calif. sold one, and moved the others out. Best move I ever made.
The only reason to have a business in Caif. is to sell and service who is there…besides the ag. business which rely’s on illegals.
Bsicall the only ones making money is the B2B, because the customer base is shrinking in Calif.
Highest workman’s comp, highest energy, taxes and fees, AQMD, state, county, city regs fighting against each other. Just to maintain your Corp status is 10 times what it is in NC.
It makes no economic sense to stay in Calif, unless your customers are there. And every year your customers are diluted from “white collar” to illegals.
The only net gain in population is from illegal’s, and they don’t have the purchasing power.
Thank your lucky stars for importing from China, take that away and So. Cal is a ghost town…they drove off all the manufacturers.
Thanks to your “61%” of liberals…

right2bright on May 21, 2009 at 2:19 PM

Sigh. Best move you ever made. Well, dammit, that’s it. I just must have forgot it’s a right2bright world. All this money must be worth less because it didn’t come through your pocket. Don’t dispute the regs. Never did. But, I do dispute that business is cookie-cutter and you’re the chef. Work is actually coming back from China because of quality and lead-time issues. Furthermore, short-run never left. Doesn’t make sense to have that overseas. Mexico business has also increased over the last 5 years. There’s no arguement about Californias unfriendly business environment. It is surely the hardest place in the US to prosper. But, if one can grow sufficiently, save for the future, and enjoy near perfect year-round weather, a person would be a fool for calling someone else a fool for staying. Circumstances differ. Most people respect that. Certainly, most conservatives do.

An easier solution: Push San Francisco to secede from California, and the rest of the state would be purplish-red, and could rescue itself. Then let Governor Gavin pay his own bills in Sodom-on-the-Bay.

Steve Z on May 21, 2009 at 10:42 AM

I would like to see that implemented in other states.

IL/Chicagoland in particular.

nico on May 21, 2009 at 1:12 PM

Sat on the bench of the bench team huh? (17,000,000 did not vote),
I had three businesses in Calif. sold one, and moved the others out. Best move I ever made.
The only reason to have a business in Caif. is to sell and service who is there…besides the ag. business which rely’s on illegals.
Bsicall the only ones making money is the B2B, because the customer base is shrinking in Calif.
Highest workman’s comp, highest energy, taxes and fees, AQMD, state, county, city regs fighting against each other. Just to maintain your Corp status is 10 times what it is in NC.
It makes no economic sense to stay in Calif, unless your customers are there. And every year your customers are diluted from “white collar” to illegals.
The only net gain in population is from illegal’s, and they don’t have the purchasing power.
Thank your lucky stars for importing from China, take that away and So. Cal is a ghost town…they drove off all the manufacturers.
Thanks to your “61%” of liberals…

I guess we have a few conservatives.

nico on May 21, 2009 at 1:46 PM

Just not enough conservatives……..

States that have less total population than Californians who voted against the Obama:

Tennessee, Missouri, Maryland, Wisconsin, Minnesota, Colorado, Alabama, South Carolina, Louisiana, Kentucky, Oregon, Oklahoma, Connecticut, Iowa, Mississippi, Arkansas, Kansas, Utah, Nevada, New Mexico, West Virginia, Nebraska, Idaho, Maine, New Hampshire, Hawaii, Rhode Island, Montana, Delaware, South Dakota, Alaska, North Dakota, Vermont,
Wyoming

I guess we have a few conservatives.

Meanwhile, I’m enjoying my vacation in Branson

You’re not far from Springfield, you should stop by Bass Pro Shops gigantic main store, I was amazed that they had preserved the old Herters stuffed animal display which was something in itself and don’t go walking in the deep woods by yourself there’s probably still a feud or two.

C’mon, element, stop refuting the talking points. You’re in danger of dousing the effigy.

nico on May 21, 2009 at 1:33 PM

I can’t help myself. I was infected with the Common Sense virus at an early age. I also amd a born-and-bred Texan that has only spent 10 years in California, so the stupid here hasn’t quite gotten to me yet.

C’mon, element, stop refuting the talking points. You’re in danger of dousing the effigy.