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posted at 10:30 pm on May 20, 2009 by Allahpundit
RUSH: Drudge had as a lead item up there this morning on his page a story from the UK, Sky News: “Scientists Unveil Missing Link In Evolution.” It’s all about how Darwin would be thrilled to be alive today. “Scientists have unveiled a 47-million-year-old fossilised skeleton of a monkey hailed as the missing link in human evolution.” It’s a one-foot, nine-inch-tall monkey, and it’s a lemur monkey described as the eighth wonder of the world. “The search for a direct connection between humans and the rest of the animal kingdom has taken 200 years – but it was presented to the world today –” So I guess this is settled science. We now officially came from a monkey, 47 million years ago. Well, that’s how it’s being presented here. It’s settled science. You know, this is all BS, as far as I’m concerned. Cross species evolution, I don’t think anybody’s ever proven that.
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“On the whole I think the evidence is less than convincing,” said Chris Gilbert, a paleoanthropologist at Yale University. “They make an intriguing argument but I would definitely say that the consensus is not in favor of the hypothesis they’re proposing.”
The Ida team points to the fact that some of the fossil’s teeth, toe and ankle bones resemble anthropoids more than modern lemurs. But other researchers point out that primitive lemurs, as opposed to modern lemurs, also share many of these features.
“They claim in the paper that by examining the anatomy of adapids, these animals have something to do with the direct line of human ancestry and living monkeys and apes. This claim is buttressed with almost no evidence,” said paleontologist Richard Kay of Duke University. “And they failed to cite a body of literature that’s been going on since at least 1984 that presents evidence against their hypothesis.”
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I notice that megalomaniac Charles ‘One-Flew-Over-The-Cuckoo’s-Nest’ Johnson is still tooting his horn and pushing that this Ida creature is everything the 3-ring circus behind it claims it is, but nary one mention of the SCIENTIST PEERS of the original scientists disputing and disproving the findings and claims being made.
Huh. Imagine that. Believe in Creation pre-evolution and not evolution from nothingness, to goop, to humans? You’re anti-science. woooooooooooo
Science disputing and disproving the claims of the carnival barker scientists that this is a ‘missing link’ to humans?
*crickets*
Yeah. Charles Johnson is nothing more than a shill for atheism (and even more of a shill for Amazon.com… they must be showering him with gifts and money) and he won’t even acknowledge when science disputes or disproves… bad science. When it comes to Darwinism anyway.
What a shocker.
SilverStar830 on May 21, 2009 at 1:50 AM
Anyway it is my hunch that the reason so many Christians is hostile to the evolution is that atleast in 20th century proponents of evolution have been very dismissive of Christianity.
Gaurav on May 21, 2009 at 1:51 AM
Hooboy! Reading some of the exchanges on this post nearly melted my eyeballs.
Speaking of imperfect humans, I have come to think that it is ego, pride, that is the genesis of these arguments, not truth or untruth.
Truth does exist, and stands on its own merits. It is we who must continually seek to understand what truth is, and thereby adjust our limited worldview to accommodate it.
trailboss on May 21, 2009 at 1:53 AM
As with any two subjects of an entirely different nature but which cover some of the same territory, they sometimes are in conflict, at least according to fundamentalists. Otherwise the only controversy would be whether or not this fossil is as remarkable as first reported, not whether or not fossils are even real.
FloatingRock on May 21, 2009 at 1:56 AM
Come on Creationists, it’s time we give up. A lemur fossil has been found… CLEARLY that means that once upon a time, there was so much “nothing” that it exploded in to everything, then rain and lightning came and a one celled organism was created, then after billions of years chimps turned in to humans. I mean, seriously, we found a lemur fossil. Evolutionists win, right?
RightWinged on May 21, 2009 at 2:03 AM
The key word is fundamentalists, in my mind those unwilling or unable to adjust their worldview in light of new information.
trailboss on May 21, 2009 at 2:03 AM
trailboss on May 21, 2009 at 1:53 AM
Well I have been guilty of some pride and ego myself this evening… oddly enough, you don’t make friends that way.
But tomorrow is another day. I had thoughts about evolution that I posted on two other places but… I’m getting tired now. They will probably seem silly in the morning.
petunia on May 21, 2009 at 2:05 AM
… actually, it goes beyond that: Singularity with no origin and in stasis for eternity, suddenly, at 3 pm on a Thursday afternoon, with no input or cause, becomes unstable and explodes — and thus the universe began.
Totally refuting science and logic which state that for every effect, there must be a cause.
Totally refuting science and logic that state that nothing + nothing + no input -> nothing and replacing it with nothing + nothing + no input + lots of time -> everything
/Yeah, I think that’s one of the comments that got me banned from LGF. Or the comment about being away for a while and coming back and seeing another thread on non-causal spontaneous generation. … don’t recall if I dinged down any of CJ’s commments or not — I might have. Maybe that was it.
Sounds like CJ is doing more than spending time monitoring his own site, sounds like he’s monitoring others like HA as well.
Waves! HI CHUCK! Really appreciate the fact you don’t even respond to polite queries asking WHY you have banned an ID.
AZfederalist on May 21, 2009 at 2:08 AM
At least you are thinking… just remember that every wild weekend seems silly come Monday morning.
trailboss on May 21, 2009 at 2:08 AM
RightWinged on May 21, 2009 at 2:03 AM
Someone on another post mentioned how odd that lemurs had changed so little over time. And yet I also noted that the change that did happen seemed to be a way from opposable thumbs so opposable thumbs seem not to be a great advantage afterall.
petunia on May 21, 2009 at 2:08 AM
I’m a little too buzzed to follow what you’re saying here… but again I have to give credit to AllahPundit for posting some quotes showing just how stupid the reactions have been to this “finding”. How many evolutionists here have actually read the scientific papers associated with this? Finding a friggin’ lemur… ugh, I don’t even know what to say.
RightWinged on May 21, 2009 at 2:11 AM
Considering that you appear to acknowledge the legitimacy of fossil evidence even if you don’t believe in evolution, you must not be a young Earth creationist. That, at least, is a start.
FloatingRock on May 21, 2009 at 2:13 AM
Maybe it’s me but I find it ironic that the party of “science” that is so hell bent on believing in evolution ignores all the historic environmental changes that led to species being wiped out etc., etc.. That all stopped I guess, when man started driving cars and burning coal.
msmveritas on May 21, 2009 at 2:16 AM
???????????????????????
trailboss on May 21, 2009 at 2:18 AM
Umm, actually they don’t. Science, being something that is experimentally verifiable is fully supported by most young earth creationists. The scientific theories of gravity, quantum physics, and other experimentally verifiable phenomena pose no issues for creationists. Arguing that from nothing, everything comes and that given enough time organisms just sort of manage to accumulate into more complex organisms without being able to experimentally demonstrate such things — that they have a problem with.
AZfederalist on May 21, 2009 at 2:18 AM
Neither political party is strong on science. They each have their bugaboos. Politics and science simply don’t mix. True science has no basis in either politics or religion, although both try to lay claim to it.
FloatingRock on May 21, 2009 at 2:21 AM
What you are saying is that YEC’s accept those sciences that do not seem to conflict with their accepted doctrines – not that they accept science as a legitimate endeavor, regardless of whether or not it agrees with pre-determined ‘truth.’
trailboss on May 21, 2009 at 2:23 AM
What does a fossilized picture of Nancy Pelosi have anything to do with anything………
………… or is it Harry Reid?
Better yet,…………
…….. Arlen Specter?
Seven Percent Solution on May 21, 2009 at 2:25 AM
So how do you explain the existence of this fossil? Is it a fake; a fraud created by man? If not, how could this creature possibly have existed millions of years before God was supposed to have created it?
FloatingRock on May 21, 2009 at 2:26 AM
I don’t think the answer will be experimentally verifiable.
trailboss on May 21, 2009 at 2:32 AM
That’s really true. Science really shouldn’t threaten anyone’s faith. And if something is “settled” science there should be no need of political debate. It really isn’t the fault of the evidence it is the interpretation of the evidence that causes problems.
That is where story making begins.
petunia on May 21, 2009 at 2:33 AM
Not in this life! But I have hope for the next and to continue learning forever! The universe is full of possibilities!
Eternity is a very very very long time.
petunia on May 21, 2009 at 2:35 AM
No, the answer won’t be but the fossil is.
FloatingRock on May 21, 2009 at 2:35 AM
The trouble with anthropology is that the only facts are in the dating of the bones and such. The evolution the creature underwent has to be a theory based on a string of theories which just sorta make sense in the scientific world.
What the literalist religionists proclaim as the truth is based on a book that’s been changed as many times as it’s been printed practically, and it was mostly parables to start with. That taken with the fact (yes fact) that the beginning of the story, if taken literally, is just quite stupid. It’s meant to teach. These days the only thing it’s teaching is that the people who take it literally are….literally stupid.
Spiritk9 on May 21, 2009 at 2:36 AM
Acceptance of truth is hard, since it means changing one’s mind. It is so much easier to create arguments that satisfy one’s own mindset. Whether or not those arguments are grounded in verifiable reality…well that’s always the question.
trailboss on May 21, 2009 at 2:38 AM
Here’s one to grind on…Eternity is the absence of time.
trailboss on May 21, 2009 at 2:39 AM
I must admit that by the usual standards this is one of the nicest threads.
Gaurav on May 21, 2009 at 2:40 AM
I am not in this group of which you speak but I feel to defend them.
I think their faith is something good. I mean it feels good to me that they are out there most of the time unless I get in a stupid fight with a whole bunch of them at once… But I digress…
I don’t want anyone to lose faith over evolution it is just not worth it. The Bible has much more value. And for many that is all there is of God in their lives. It has value. Wouldn’t an anthropologist say the same? A cultural anthropologist anyway. Religion has great value in societies.
And in fact Godless societies fail. There is just not enough to hold them together.
petunia on May 21, 2009 at 2:43 AM
By this time of day, everyone is too tired to squawk and preach and take offense. It also seems to be when the reasoned arguments get dusted off and brought out.
trailboss on May 21, 2009 at 2:43 AM
I think “time” on earth is probably an artificial construct that applies only to this Earth. Not the rest of creation.
But because I am of this earth I really can’t express it in another way.
petunia on May 21, 2009 at 2:45 AM
I realize true science should have no basis in politics or religion. I was referring to the fact that the Democrats see themselves as the party of science, when in fact they are not. The left loves to makes the right look as though they are in complete denial of scientific reason, when in fact they cherry pick the “science” to suit their political agenda.
msmveritas on May 21, 2009 at 2:47 AM
It must be the hour. I was really mean earlier. Not on this thread but another… I made enemies. Dang I hate that. I’m such an idiot!
petunia on May 21, 2009 at 2:50 AM
Right Oh. We are of ‘time,’ we live in ‘time,’ we think in terms of 1 comes before 2 and 2 before 3…Eternity is a concept we have no real clear notion of yet.
trailboss on May 21, 2009 at 2:50 AM
Good night all.
petunia on May 21, 2009 at 2:50 AM
For them it’s a matter of faith. It’s more like willful ignorance than stupidity. Many of the young Earth creationists here are clearly very intelligent people, they just prefer to believe in a literal interpretation of the bible regardless of any and all evidence to the contrary, and since it doesn’t negatively impact their life any more than knowing the chemical composition Dynamite, what harm is there?
I don’t have anything against young Earth creationists except when some of them attempt to force their beliefs on children trying to learn a subject as important to the future prosperity and survival of our nation as science.
It’s one thing for them to teach it to their own children; it’s another thing to try and indoctrinate the children of other parents in science class.
FloatingRock on May 21, 2009 at 2:51 AM
Oh dear this isn’t at all scientific!
I do need to sleep. I took a sleeping pill and soon I’ll babble.
petunia on May 21, 2009 at 2:52 AM
Thanks for that. I finally came to that conclusion after wondering why it would be so bad to teach ID, YEC, and Evolution in the same school.
trailboss on May 21, 2009 at 2:54 AM
I’m a little jealous. I need to sleep too, but my brain won’t take the hint.
trailboss on May 21, 2009 at 2:55 AM
Frankly speaking I think this fossil discovery was bit of PR stunt, and I speak as someone who “believes” in evolution, by the way I put “believes” in scare quotes because I find these feud kind of silly because marshaling evidence for evolution (or big bang theory) is so complicated that unless you have specialized in the field it is difficult to make any sense of it.
Gaurav on May 21, 2009 at 2:55 AM
Like I said, the reasoned arguments start to come out in the wee hours. Well said.
trailboss on May 21, 2009 at 2:57 AM
I’m not a physicist but I tend to agree. I don’t think there is a “time” particle or anything of the sort, it just is. We perceive it but it isn’t actually there, only the affect resulting from the nature of matter and energy.
FloatingRock on May 21, 2009 at 2:58 AM
Possibly, thought I was being serious when I said this is one of the nicest thread, anyway being a heathen I am in a unenviable position, According to Atheists I am a retarded believer and according to Christians I a filthy idolater, so there ;-)
Gaurav on May 21, 2009 at 3:02 AM
I’ve read Brian Greene’s Fabric of the Cosmos three times, and each time I think I get closer to understanding what time ‘is.’ Then I go to sleep and it all eludes me the next morning.
trailboss on May 21, 2009 at 3:03 AM
Agreed. Their claim to science is no better than the the Right’s, (including science education), and what’s more, their claim to logic and reason in the political arena is virtually non existent. Conservatives outscore them tenfold on that metric, including the the Young Earth creationist’s.
FloatingRock on May 21, 2009 at 3:06 AM
I read some book which explained universe including quantum phenomenon in terms of information, though I have forgot the details it was a very interesting and thought provoking read. It will be amusing if it turns out that God is some kind of computer.
Gaurav on May 21, 2009 at 3:06 AM
A retarded, filthy, idol-worshiping believer, who can think. Something for everyone! Welcome.
trailboss on May 21, 2009 at 3:07 AM
Heh. I was exaggerating of course. Anyway I think most of the people here are decent and nice, it is only there are some subjects such atheism,evolution, Palin that triggers extreme emotional responses.
Gaurav on May 21, 2009 at 3:09 AM
I hope not…at least not a Windows-based god. How long before he has to reset…
trailboss on May 21, 2009 at 3:09 AM
Science, Religion, Palin. (did I just put those in the same sentence?)
trailboss on May 21, 2009 at 3:12 AM
He already did that once according to most of religions and he does it on continuous basis according to my religion.
At risk of being branded a cave man I actually like Windows XP
Gaurav on May 21, 2009 at 3:12 AM
Ok, you are a retarded, filthy, idol-worshiping believing caveman.
I have Vista, and an Iphone. It’s like the Hell and Heaven in the same room.
trailboss on May 21, 2009 at 3:15 AM
I think I can add more to long procession of adjectives by confessing I never understand why people are so crazy about apple, but then I have never been a gadget guy, so there.
Gaurav on May 21, 2009 at 3:19 AM
Is that statement experimentally verifiable?
trailboss on May 21, 2009 at 3:20 AM
Gadget? Gadget? How dare you call my Iphone a mere gadget! Why it is life itself! There is a god, and his name is JOBS!
trailboss on May 21, 2009 at 3:22 AM
In fact I will readily confess even global warming is too complicated for me to understand. The only reason I refuse to take global warming too seriously because people like Al Gore have only a single refrain, “Doomsday is near, quick repent, only cash accepted” This is not science, this is cult.
Gaurav on May 21, 2009 at 3:24 AM
XP’s an excellent OS.
FloatingRock on May 21, 2009 at 3:25 AM
Soon there will be a movie “Temptation of the forbidden apple”
Gaurav on May 21, 2009 at 3:26 AM
That’s debatable, but I think so. Feudalism failed, and during the existence of the US, Marxism was invented, tried and failed while the American’ experiment continued right on through until Obama, and now they’re trying Marxism again, which I think will fail. Unfortunately, while China is still ruled by a Communist party, their economy is now more capitalist than ours, so they will probably emerge as the dominant power in the world.
We’ll see.
FloatingRock on May 21, 2009 at 3:28 AM
This statement has been known to start riot among Linux enthusiast ;-)
Gaurav on May 21, 2009 at 3:28 AM
Science-based cult, mind you. Every time I hear someone cry about saving the earth, I wonder what I missed. If a 2-6 degree celsius rise in average temperature means the destruction of earth, well, we ARE in deep doodoo. I refuse now to turn up the thermostat more than 1.9 degrees.
trailboss on May 21, 2009 at 3:30 AM
Yeah, or as I like to put a cult without God. I think Instapundit puts it best when he says, “I will take global warming seriously when people who say it is serious starting acting like it is serious”
Gaurav on May 21, 2009 at 3:36 AM
Well, an excellent P OS. Ok, sorry, my true feelings about MS are surfacing.
I have used windows since it was DOS. It has gotten better, (after Win95, Win98 and ME, it couldn’t have gotten worse…)
I truly hope 7 is for real.
trailboss on May 21, 2009 at 3:36 AM
That’s been the case for many years, and in some regards it’s true, yet Windows still runs a far vaster array of software and hardware, and does it very well.
I’ve never tried Vista, though.
FloatingRock on May 21, 2009 at 3:37 AM
Quote of the Day. Every Day.
Thanks for a thoughtful thread. Must sleep. My inner caveman is calling…
trailboss on May 21, 2009 at 3:39 AM
Feed him some well done Neanderthal.
Gaurav on May 21, 2009 at 3:41 AM
I’m no longer sure that wouldn’t be akin to cannibalism! I keep reading that Neanderthal my just be in my DNA. Well, not in just MY DNA mind you…
trailboss on May 21, 2009 at 3:43 AM
Enjoy.
http://filer.case.edu/dts8/thelastq.htm
trigon on May 21, 2009 at 3:55 AM
THIS PROVES IT
After reviewing the evidence I now know that this fossil proves it. I know with metaphysical certainty and Darwinian ecstasy that this fossil is the discovery that we have been waiting for. If you aren’t convinced please peruse the facts – if you dare.
We didn’t have this fossil before but now we do therefore facts are facts. Anyone who doesn’t believe that evolution is no longer a theory but is now settled must be some kind of fundamentalist lunatic. The beautiful thing about this missing link fossil is that it speaks for itself. I don’t even have to explain why it proves what I have known all along. This fossil is proof positive. The fossil record is now completely linked.
I have been amazed how the creationists have tried to down play this amazing discovery. I can tell they envy my incredible intellect but they play it off by holding up their Bibles and ignore this evidence that clearly settles all questions.
Now it is just a matter of purging those who try to dispute what is now indisputable consensus. After all the best science is based on the number of scientists that believe in the same thing. Strength in numbers ring a bell?? Seems everyone knows that – everyone except creationists.
Mormon Doc on May 21, 2009 at 3:55 AM
Yeah I have read it,one of the most popular Asimov stories though my preference is for The Last Answer.
Gaurav on May 21, 2009 at 4:01 AM
Nice. I’ve read a lot of Azimov, but I don’t think I’ve come across that one before.
trigon on May 21, 2009 at 4:36 AM
I used to be Asimov buff before I discovered Heinlein.
Gaurav on May 21, 2009 at 5:19 AM
“You just got busted over at LGF and I doubt you’ll get that chance to post your swan song for Charles.”
Your correct. My account was blocked for a post on this site critical of his hyper-evolutionary views.
Chuck, your a jerk – a one string banjo!
jsulman on May 21, 2009 at 5:51 AM
A young cousin of mine asked me the other day about whales “starting out” as land animals long, long ago. Why did they leave the land — did all of it suddenly disappear and they had to learn to swim? What other kinds of animals changed from land-based to sea-based, or was it only whales — and if so, why not others? And if they slowly changed from having legs to having fins, wouldn’t there have been a long period of time in which their legs weren’t fit for walking on land or swimming in water, thus causing them to starve and die out? I’m still trying to come up with some answers.
KyMouse on May 21, 2009 at 6:35 AM
On this subject, Rush’s comment has it right.
Phil Byler on May 21, 2009 at 6:41 AM
at Tue, May 19, 2009 at 8:27:41 pm PDT …
Charles Johnson quotes Rush with emphasis here:
at 5/19/09 10:38:48 pm:
Charles Johnson condemns Rush …
What do the actual scientists say?
Too quote HA above:
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So Charles tell us, whose views a more consistent with that of science on this question about “Ida” as it stands today, yours or Rush’s?
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So Charles how does you knee jerk condemnation of Rush look now?
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So Charles don’t you think you owe Rush a retraction and an apology?
Mike OMalley on May 21, 2009 at 6:42 AM
I said in a headline thread that the macro evolutionist will actually shoot themselves in the foot over this. Looks like I may very well be right.
DethMetalCookieMonst on May 21, 2009 at 6:46 AM
According to Darwin aquatic life evolved into land based life, KyMouse.
Darwin’s theory is just that. This fossil proves nothing. There is no evidence to support the PC moonbat claims.
Finally, I want to ask this question. Why does one side or the other of this debate think they have the only correct answer?
What if they are BOTH correct? Genesis actually mentions the creation of man twice. Once in the general sense and one specific creation of Adam, at different points in the creation timeline.
In the general case, the Bible is not specific about how God created man. In the case of Adam it is. Finally, proof against evolution: We all see cro magnon’s every day.
dogsoldier on May 21, 2009 at 6:51 AM
But…but….but…..it’s the STUUUUUUUUPPPIDDDDD christians that are obsessed with this topic.
/anti-theist
DethMetalCookieMonst on May 21, 2009 at 6:53 AM
Typical. A trait of bad science.
Zorro on May 21, 2009 at 7:10 AM
The real question is why are macro-evolutionist and anti-theists not hostile to the big bang being taught in school? After all, there is no evidence to support it.
Yeah, I know the answer and so do all of you, but let’s see if they can be honest as to why.
DethMetalCookieMonst on May 21, 2009 at 7:22 AM
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I recall that Victorian era instances of militant atheism were very dismissive of Christianity because the atheists hated the social restrains the Christian sexual morality placed upon their behavior. I think you will find similar instances in Germany during its Kulture Kampf (culture war in the 19th century) Nietzsche and Wagner come to mind.
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It seems that many social-lib militant proponents of Darwinism are similarly motivated, despite the frightful damage that abandonment of Christian sexual mores has done to America: its poor, its children, the un-born and men and women generally.
Darwinism is a weapon of our Culture War.
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I’ll never be able to find the exact instance now but I seem to recall an extreme reaction over at LGF to persons who stated that obvious fact that Social Darwinism was an ideological cause of the Holocaust. Extreme reactions to exposure of the dark side of Darwinism suggest to me bad conscience.
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Recall the full title…
On the Origin of Species by Means of Natural Selection, or the Preservation of Favoured Races in the Struggle for Life
Mike OMalley on May 21, 2009 at 7:22 AM
Every generation or so atheists are driven by some dark impulse to try to kill God and pronounce Him dead. Good luck with that, Darwinian zealots.
RandyChandler on May 21, 2009 at 7:22 AM
Thanks, dogsoldier; and, if your nic has the usual meaning, thanks for your service.
KyMouse on May 21, 2009 at 7:24 AM
Evolution and creation are 2 separate topics….zzzzzzzzzzz.
Itchee Dryback on May 21, 2009 at 7:30 AM
The fact that the Catholic Church has been an intellectual dynamo since the times of Gregory Popes at least is under appreciated.
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American Protestant versions of Christianity have been colored by a reaction to the militant anti-Christian rationalism of the French Revolution (acquired during the Second Great Awakening).
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The Big Bang is consistent with Genesis.
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BTW scientist and Roman Catholic priest Georges Lemaître proposed what became known as the Big Bang theory in 1927.
Mike OMalley on May 21, 2009 at 7:33 AM
That is why I stopped visiting LGF some time ago, I felt like an intruder. AP is respectful, Charles…not so much.
Grafted on May 21, 2009 at 7:35 AM
Mike OMalley, my grandfather left me a set of Darwinian books published in 1896-7, and I’ve been reading them in recent months. I’ve been amazed at the overt anti-Christian view expressed in these “scientific” works by Darwin, Haeckel, Schmidt et al. My teachers never pointed it out to me — did yours to you? Or did you hear only about the pure, unbiased studies they conducted?
Consider this unbiased, purely scientific quotation from the preface to volume 1 of Ernst Haeckel’s The Evolution of Man (my copy is from 1897):
“In this spiritual warfare, which now moves all thinking humanity, and which prepares the way for a future existence more worthy of man, spiritual freedom and truth, reason and culture, evolution and progress stand on the one side, marshalled under the bright banner of science; on the other side, marshalled under the black flag of hierarchy, stand spiritual servitude and falsehood, want of reason and barbarism, superstition and retrogression. The trumpet of this gigantic spiritual warfare marks the dawn of a new day and the end of the long darkness of the Middle Ages…In this mighty ‘war of culture’, affecting as it does the whole history of the World…[W]hole libraries of church wisdom and false philosophy melt away as soon as they are seen in the light afforded by the history of evolution.”
A “scientist” boasting that he is engaged in “spiritual warfare”? Seems to me that, from its earliest days, there has been that ulterior motive in Darwinian evolutionary thought. The fish with legs stinks from the head.
KyMouse on May 21, 2009 at 7:38 AM
It is possible though I always thought that reason Atheists so hated Church was due to all the unpleasant business during preceding era.
Gaurav on May 21, 2009 at 7:42 AM
Charles Johnson is a big baby
blatantblue on May 21, 2009 at 7:47 AM
Weird, Johnson was a co-founder of PJM
had no idea
blatantblue on May 21, 2009 at 7:48 AM
Let me put it this way he manages to be disagreeable even if one agrees with him.
Gaurav on May 21, 2009 at 7:52 AM
I know I’m late to the party but … all these things we find in and around the third rock were put there for a reason. Did we come from these things we find? Probably not. Remember, God said “My ways are on your ways, My thinking is not your thinking…” In all things within this universe, we still have no concept of time and space as it relates to our Creator. Ergo, this science is interesting at best, folly at worst.
HomeoftheBrave on May 21, 2009 at 7:53 AM
I wonder why he is like that.
Sometimes when people are like that I wonder if they truly just lost a few marbles upstairs.
blatantblue on May 21, 2009 at 7:55 AM
Science is at its best when it finds information and tests it and makes a hypothesis based on it and continually tests it against all comers.
“Settled science” is only settled until better evidence and technology comes along, that being said if you are going to push settled science aside you better have damn good evidence.
petertheslow on May 21, 2009 at 8:07 AM
Dating methods aren’t nearly as accurate as evolutionists claim to be?
DethMetalCookieMonst on May 21, 2009 at 8:14 AM
So, were you anti science, anti intellectual folks just sitting around waiting for Buckley to die so you could drag the US conservative movement back to the 1800′s? I’ve never seen such hostility to science and progress in general.
Krydor on May 21, 2009 at 8:17 AM
I think he was always like that generally blogging is shriller than what we expect in real world. Anyway back to topic at hand, as one of the great American said.
Gaurav on May 21, 2009 at 8:18 AM
Why do I have to chose between evolution and creation?
bridgetown on May 21, 2009 at 8:22 AM
FIFY
dominigan on May 21, 2009 at 8:24 AM
Looks like there’s a three ring circus pushing Ida. So much hype makes me skeptical and discredits the seriousness of it all.
petefrt on May 21, 2009 at 8:29 AM
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