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Joe Klein: If only Krauthammer could walk, he’d be a better pundit

posted at 11:58 am on May 20, 2009 by Allahpundit
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I’m taking a risk paraphrasing it like that because I can’t quite believe he meant it the way it reads, especially given his track record of taking histrionic Sullivan-esque offense at far gentler political attacks. Either Politico’s quoting him egregiously out of context or … they must be quoting him out of context, right?

“He became Ground Zero among the neo-cons, but he’s vastly smarter than most of them,” said Time’s Joe Klein, an admirer and critic who praised Krauthammer’s “writing skills and polemical skills” as “so far above almost anybody writing columns today.”

“There’s something tragic about him too,” Klein said, referring to Krauthammer’s confinement to a wheelchair, the result of a diving accident during his first year of medical school. “His work would have a lot more nuance if he were able to see the situations he’s writing about.”

“My writing speaks for itself,” Krauthammer responded in a curt email.

What could he possibly mean? Because Krauthammer can’t visit Baghdad to tour Camp Victory personally his hawkishness is somehow ill informed? How many leftist bottom-feeders expound authoritatively on foreign policy online every day who have never been within a thousand miles of the Middle East?

He must have meant something else. Or did he? John Podhoretz goes nuclear:

We cannot go back in time and visit the battlefields of the Civil War, or Agincourt, or the Peloponnese—are we therefore incapable of seeing their nuances? FDR was in a wheelchair and did not visit the battlefields of World War II-—were its nuances beyond him as well?

The self-infatuation this quote reveals about Klein’s own celebration of his own passport stamps—the words of a lesser author and thinker about one who so surpasses him in clarity and insight that a wiser Klein would have been better off just admitting that he can’t hold a candle to Krauthammer and let it go at that—is striking enough. But let’s face it. This is simply disgusting, no matter how you slice it. Perhaps men and women in wheelchairs, or who are blind, or deaf, or have other infirmities that make their ability to get on a plane and go to Iraq should simply forbear any sort of opinion about such things. They should, instead, be left to Joe Klein.

If he did mean it the way it sounds, then it looks like a derivative of the chickenhawk smear. He can’t rightly accuse a hawkish pundit who’s handicapped of being too gutless to lace up the boots, so instead he turns it into faux sympathy for how poor Charles can’t help but be blinkered as a prisoner of his condition. Here’s hoping Bret Baier has the stones to bring this up on tonight’s “Special Report” panel and let him respond at length.


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What a douchebag.

madne0 on May 20, 2009 at 12:01 PM

Joe is bent out of shape since CK has been on role lately with some poignant commentary. This is just par for the Statist attack methdology.

WashJeff on May 20, 2009 at 12:02 PM

Hate speech.

One skin cell in Krauthammer’s pinky finger has more value than five generations of Klein’s family.

noblejones on May 20, 2009 at 12:02 PM

No one ever accused Joe Klein of having class. Maybe Klein’s buddy, Sheriff Joe, can get Krauthammer to stand up. I hear Sheriff Joe is good at that.

GarandFan on May 20, 2009 at 12:02 PM

Stand up, Joe, God love ya.

Christian Conservative on May 20, 2009 at 12:03 PM

If Joe Klein hadn’t lost his mind, he’d be a better pundit, too.

CK MacLeod on May 20, 2009 at 12:03 PM

Wow – these comments have to be without thought or reason.

I cannot imagine Joe Klein is this ignorant.

jake-the-goose on May 20, 2009 at 12:03 PM

The guy freaking graduated from Harvard Medical School in a wheelchair, and Klein says he’s not capable of figuring out what is going on? Despicable.

Realist on May 20, 2009 at 12:03 PM

Didn’t even know that about Krauthammer.

However, the question is begged: Who the hell is Joe Klein to criticize the punditry of seasoned columnists?

MadisonConservative on May 20, 2009 at 12:03 PM

Klein is to Krauthammer as burlap is to silk.

fogw on May 20, 2009 at 12:04 PM

Pathetic.

Many would given up on life after what Charles went through. This Klein fellow needs a dose of common sense.

booter on May 20, 2009 at 12:04 PM

F U J K!

carbon_footprint on May 20, 2009 at 12:05 PM

Wowzer…I didn’t realize Krauthammer was confined to a wheelchair…but now, thanks to the Progressive Liberal and uber-enlightened Joe Klein, I do!

RepubChica on May 20, 2009 at 12:05 PM

MadisonConservative on May 20, 2009 at 12:03 PM

Don’t you know, Mad? He’s a Liberal. He is innately smarter and better than the rest of us. Klein is a jerk. Krauthammer is a great writer.

kingsjester on May 20, 2009 at 12:06 PM

I’m taking a risk paraphrasing it like that because I can’t quite believe he meant it the way it reads, especially given his track record of taking histrionic Sullivan-esque offense at far gentler political attacks.

AP, I think you beat Jesse Jackson and Al Sharpton together. I read the title and I tried to guess what the actual quote would be.

Amazing.

radiofreevillage on May 20, 2009 at 12:06 PM

Krauthammer is a million times more intellectual and functional then Joe Klein will ever be.

rightg33k on May 20, 2009 at 12:06 PM

“There’s something tragic about him too,” Klein said, referring to Krauthammer’s confinement to a wheelchair, the result of a diving accident during his first year of medical school. “His work would have a lot more nuance if he were able to see the situations he’s writing about.”

Stop the hand wringing, AP. There is not a doubt as to what Klein meant.

Good grief, if Limbaugh said this….

drjohn on May 20, 2009 at 12:07 PM

I hope Rush brings this up on his show today. Charles is a nice guy and great writer.
L

letget on May 20, 2009 at 12:07 PM

wow. I saw this at The Corner. I guess the Left has reached a new low.

youngO on May 20, 2009 at 12:08 PM

OMG. You’re right, it’s a new low that I didn’t think possible.

marklmail on May 20, 2009 at 12:09 PM

Here’s hoping Bret Baier has the stones to bring this up on tonight’s “Special Report” panel and let him respond at length.

Allah, it’s Wednesday and Bret/Special Report does an online question the panel segment that lasts about a half hour, that takes place online. I’ve had my questions asked twice now.

Charles is my hero, and Joe Klein is a buffoon.

Here’s the link to the online chat, which starts at 5:45 Central time.

Chat with Fox panel linky.

Knucklehead on May 20, 2009 at 12:09 PM

Envy is a terribly, terribly corrosive thing.

Realist on May 20, 2009 at 12:09 PM

typical liberal turd. can we stop calling them fellow Americans yet?

elduende on May 20, 2009 at 12:09 PM

indicative of mental illness

notagool on May 20, 2009 at 12:09 PM

It’s really a shame, Joe. If you weren’t dumpy and bald, you likely would have had more meaningful relationships during your lifetime that would have given you true insight into people and situations.

jdflorida on May 20, 2009 at 12:09 PM

Just sick.

WisCon on May 20, 2009 at 12:11 PM

I read this piece this morning and only one thing came to mind. “It’s “like the Special Olympics or something,”

Bigots of a feather flock together.

canditaylor68 on May 20, 2009 at 12:11 PM

klein was part of the whole “new, moderate democrat” party scam that the fascists started about two years before the election to set the stage for barry. He is nothing but a propagandist tool of the demofascists. howard kurtz and howard fineman are exactly the same. It drives me up the wall to hear so called “conservative” pundits claim these guys are reasonable. they are as reasonable as snakes and cockroaches.

peacenprosperity on May 20, 2009 at 12:12 PM

Klein is to Krauthammer as burlap sh!t is to silk.

fogw on May 20, 2009 at 12:04 PM

FIFY. Both have two letters the same, that’s about it.

I guess Ray Charles’ and Stevie Wonder’s music could have been better if they could’ve seen their instruments too.

rbj on May 20, 2009 at 12:12 PM

Well, the liberal shows their true colors once again. It is time that people understand that liberals are not the open minded, free loving fairies that they portray themselves to be. The liberal is a racist, bigoted, sexist group of scumbags that don’t deserve to breathe clean air or any air.

HornetSting on May 20, 2009 at 12:12 PM

Like others here, I had no idea Krauthammer was confined to a wheelchair. All this time, I was listening to and reading his ideas instead of figuring out what oppressed group he’s lumped in with. I don’t think like a liberal–thank God.

jennifernaz on May 20, 2009 at 12:13 PM

As Bush would say, “That guy’s a major league asshole.”

Republigal on May 20, 2009 at 12:14 PM

“His work would have a lot more nuance if he were able to see the situations he’s writing about.”

Would Klein say the same about the Governor of New York?

d1carter on May 20, 2009 at 12:14 PM

Krauthammer’s response says it all. However, in an upcoming piece or TV appearance, he might make a wry, self-deprecating comment in passing…”Hey, I could be wrong, since I haven’t actually gone there.”

Christien on May 20, 2009 at 12:15 PM

Wow. Just wow.

corona on May 20, 2009 at 12:15 PM

I’ll give him the benefit of the doubt but my dad was a paraplegic from the time I was five and he thrived. He was quite the bada$$ with his own business.

Cindy Munford on May 20, 2009 at 12:15 PM

All the time I’ve seen Charles Krauthammer on Fox News I just thought he trying to emulate the lousy sitting posture William F. Buckley had while hosting “Firing Line”. I didn’t know until recently he was stuck in a wheelchair.

AaronGuzman on May 20, 2009 at 12:15 PM

“His work would have a lot more nuance if he were able to see the situations he’s writing about.”

Is this an example of nuance?

Bishop on May 20, 2009 at 12:17 PM

Joe Klein has a kleine pischer.

Mr. Joe on May 20, 2009 at 12:18 PM

“There’s something tragic about him too,”

Keep your phony sympathy to yourself.

qestout on May 20, 2009 at 12:18 PM

If Joe had a wang, he’d be a better man.

…well that’s what I heard…

29Victor on May 20, 2009 at 12:19 PM

Wow, I had no idea Krauthammer was confined to a wheelchair.

nickj116 on May 20, 2009 at 12:20 PM

Wait a minute, liberals are ‘better people’, I was told.

Most likely route Joe Klein will have is to issue a non-apology:

Well, he is sorry (blink, blink) if CK is offended. And the rest of you STFU.

Sir Napsalot on May 20, 2009 at 12:21 PM

Wow…I think there’s no doubt what he meant…disgusting…

DCJeff on May 20, 2009 at 12:21 PM

And yes, FU Joe Klein. You suck at life.

nickj116 on May 20, 2009 at 12:22 PM

… I guess the Left has reached a new low.

youngO on May 20, 2009 at 12:08 PM

Not to worry. They set new records nearly every day…sometimes several times a day.

sdd on May 20, 2009 at 12:22 PM

Maybe Joe Klein can join Obama in bowling in the Special Olympics.

Would he suggest that Stephen Hawking go see particle accelerators to write about what happens in them?

Helen Keller didn’t see much either, but she was a prolific writer.

Ray Charles and Stevie Wonder never saw what they sang about either.

Ludwig Van Beethoven wrote the majestic and beautiful Ninth Symphony and conducted its premiere, but never heard it.

Handicapped people can be an inspiration to others for what they CAN do DESPITE their handicap, and Krauthammer is one.

I wonder if Joe Klein ever watched the TV series “Ironside”, about a wheelchair-bound detective played by Raymond Burr who solved murder mysteries? In one episode, some malfrats throw Ironside into a lake, believing he would drown, then Ironside returns and says “Paraplegics can be excellent swimmers.” And, excellent writers.

Steve Z on May 20, 2009 at 12:23 PM

Krauthammer is a great columnist. Great on Special Report as well.

therightwinger on May 20, 2009 at 12:23 PM

Special Olympics?

ardenenoch on May 20, 2009 at 12:23 PM

Joke Line.

Patrick S on May 20, 2009 at 12:24 PM

I predict a “red letter update” within one hour:

Klein apologizes for remarks that were “taken out of context”, bolstered by high praise for Mr. Krauthammer.

Matticus Finch on May 20, 2009 at 12:25 PM

Typical ugly donk rhetoric.

clnurnberg on May 20, 2009 at 12:25 PM

Does this qualify as hate speech?

sdd on May 20, 2009 at 12:25 PM

Krauthammer is brilliant.

CP on May 20, 2009 at 12:26 PM

CK MacLeod on May 20, 2009 at 12:03 PM

You give him to much credit. He needed to have a mind to lose in the first place. Dang a toadstool is more productive than this dude. At least the toadstool shows that the carbon cycle and other natural cycles are functioning (decomposition). This guy just blows hot air. But what do you expect out of a low IQ journalist.

chemman on May 20, 2009 at 12:27 PM

Krautie for President!

clnurnberg on May 20, 2009 at 12:28 PM

Dr. K represents what Klein’s ilk hate, clear thinking, articulate man of principle. They seem to be going down the list of conservatives that hate, first Rush now Dr. K. I have been an admirer of his works and his life story for years. I have emailed him almost weekly to say he is a voice of sanity in a world of the insane.

d1carter on May 20, 2009 at 12:28 PM

What a turd. Klein used to be kind of smart during the Clinton years. But Bush Derangement Syndrome has eaten through his brain like syphilis.

WasatchMan on May 20, 2009 at 12:29 PM

Does this qualify as hate speech?

sdd on May 20, 2009 at 12:25 PM

It would if CK were a Democrat pundit in the wheelchair and Klein was the Rethuglican saying this.

Del Dolemonte on May 20, 2009 at 12:31 PM

The Democrat party trying to pick the Republican candidate they will run against in 2012? From the above headlines.

http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0509/22736.html

The party needs Palin I just dont’ know if she is willing to have a go at it again. I wouldn’t blame her if she pulled out of the national scene the way she gets treated by the RINOS.

Dr Evil on May 20, 2009 at 12:31 PM

If Joe Klein didn’t resemble a ferret he might be attractive to human beings.

JammieWearingFool on May 20, 2009 at 12:31 PM

One skin cell in Krauthammer’s pinky finger has more value than five generations of Klein’s family.

noblejones on May 20, 2009 at 12:02 PM

+1000

Darksean on May 20, 2009 at 12:32 PM

What a turd. Klein used to be kind of smart during the Clinton years. But Bush Derangement Syndrome has eaten through his brain like syphilis.

WasatchMan on May 20, 2009 at 12:29 PM

Actually, Joe’s brain has been infested by those parasites that are killing the fire ants. They eat away the brain for a while, leaving the host a zombie. Then a couple of weeks later the host’s head falls off.

Joe’s almost to the final stage.

Del Dolemonte on May 20, 2009 at 12:32 PM

“If the evil BOOOSSSHH had funded embryonic stem cell research, then Charles Krauthammer could walk and be a better pundit!”

Just wait – if CK stays on point, they’ll start attacking his name next.

Tactless, classless bottom feeders, the lot of ‘em.

Timothy S. Carlson on May 20, 2009 at 12:33 PM

If it weren’t for the whale turds, Joe Klein would be getting sun light.

Cybergeezer on May 20, 2009 at 12:33 PM

Klein would deserve the benefit of doubt over this if he hadn’t had a recent track record of thuggery and boorishness directed at those who disagree with him.

Not sure what happened to him but this is really emblematic of what he’s become over the past several years.

It’s not only classless, it’s just dumb.

SteveMG on May 20, 2009 at 12:33 PM

Who’s that FDR they keep talking about..

the_nile on May 20, 2009 at 12:33 PM

“be blinkered”

Someone has been watching too much Preakness coverage. ;-)

Abby Adams on May 20, 2009 at 12:34 PM

[Insert standard "What if so-and-so conservative had said this?" comment.]

Daggett on May 20, 2009 at 12:34 PM

Is this coming from the White House? Dr. K. has been less than kind to this new administration.

Is Dr. K. now going to be their next target?

Knucklehead on May 20, 2009 at 12:36 PM

I didn’t know he was in a wheelchair either until my husband told me about a year ago. Klein is a douchebag, what else is there to say?

jewells45 on May 20, 2009 at 12:37 PM

Dontcha just love this new level of civil discourse and unity in the Age of Obama? I know I do. /s

TheQuestion on May 20, 2009 at 12:37 PM

I’m taking a risk paraphrasing it like that because I can’t quite believe he meant it the way it reads

You keep saying things like this.

Jim Treacher on May 20, 2009 at 12:38 PM

liberalism = envy

Charles is by far one of the finest columnists in America today. The fact that he cannot be swayed and wooed by obama is a signal for the lunatic left to attack and destroy via ridicule of his handicap. He also stutters; maybe they will use this tactic next? Moonbattery is a disease & the infirm adults are in charge.

Ris4victory on May 20, 2009 at 12:39 PM

“There’s something tragic about him too,” Klein said, referring to Krauthammer’s confinement to a wheelchair, the result of a diving accident during his first year of medical school. “His work would have a lot more nuance if he were able to see the situations he’s writing about.”

I think that Krauthammer’s view from a wheelchair is a darn sight better than Klein’s view from up his own ass.

MB4 on May 20, 2009 at 12:40 PM

Is Dr. K. now going to be their next target?

Knucklehead on May 20, 2009 at 12:36 PM

Yup!

d1carter on May 20, 2009 at 12:42 PM

Maybe Klein’s writings would have a lot more nuance if he pulled his head out of Bambi’s ass.

And wheelchair or not, 10 bucks says CK could still beat the living crap out of Klein.

CultureWar on May 20, 2009 at 12:43 PM

Krauthammer/VDH in 2012!!

omnipotent on May 20, 2009 at 12:44 PM

Handicapped people can be an inspiration to others for what they CAN do DESPITE their handicap, and Krauthammer is one.

Steve Z on May 20, 2009 at 12:23 PM

Exactly on point. And if I may build upon your point, imagine anyone, anywhere on this earth stating of Helen Keller:

“Her work would have a lot more nuance if she were able to see the situations she’s writing about.”

Helen Keller is one of the most admired women in American history.

But to Joe Klein, people like Helen Keller must lack some magical characteristic which he calls “nuance.”

We all know what the real characteristic is that Krauthammer lacks: Liberalism. Yet, liberals are willing to evoke and feed every ugly stereotype that they accuse conservatives of being, in order to berate their political opponents, so they can fulfill their lust for power.

What an ugly disgusting display of power hungry, beltway inhumanity liberals make.

Loxodonta on May 20, 2009 at 12:44 PM

Make no mistake, this is the same snide, supercilious, condescending attitude most, if not all, liberals have toward those of us in flyover country.

mr.blacksheep on May 20, 2009 at 12:44 PM

Dang. What a thing to say.

Big Orange on May 20, 2009 at 12:45 PM

This is pure unadulterated envy…he reads Krauthammer’s clear, concise and factual opinions. He thinks “WOW, Charles is a great writer. He is really persuasive, but I’m a liberal and I cannot be persuaded. He is just wrong, dead wrong!” Therefore Klein concludes that Charles can’t see straight b/c he is in a wheelchair or something. And decides that his direct way of thinking needs more “nuance and relativism” b/c that is how Klein thinks.

Erroneous zones are like *ssholes, everyone has them!

JAM on May 20, 2009 at 12:46 PM

If he could walk, his pursuits would detract from his writing.

I know if I was confined to a wheelchair, I would perform much better at the desk job I now have. Instead, I daydream about tonight’s softball game instead of doing my work.

moc23 on May 20, 2009 at 12:47 PM

Is this why Max Cleland was such a disaster as a senator? Or was that just because he was a democrat?

mchristian on May 20, 2009 at 12:48 PM

I’m taking a risk paraphrasing it like that because I can’t quite believe he meant it the way it reads, especially given his track record of taking histrionic Sullivan-esque offense at far gentler political attacks. Either Politico’s quoting him egregiously out of context or … they must be quoting him out of context, right?

It doesn’t really matter what his intention is. If your writing suggests what his does, then you are either a horrible person or a horrible writer (or both).

It’s like Obama and his lipstick moment. Even if he wasn’t gunning for Palin, come on! You have to realize that it would be taken that way.

Upstater85 on May 20, 2009 at 12:51 PM

mchristian on May 20, 2009 at 12:48 PM

No, it’s when he took up lying for his party.

Cindy Munford on May 20, 2009 at 12:51 PM

Charles has been getting more conservative as time goes on, but he still has some lib ideas, like the gas tax to curb consumption. He wants to get us off foreign oil, but there’s no way you can trust government with tax money.

Iblis on May 20, 2009 at 12:51 PM

Allahpundit: I’m taking a risk paraphrasing it like that because I can’t quite believe he meant it the way it reads, especially given his track record of taking histrionic Sullivan-esque offense at far gentler political attacks.

Dear Allahpundit, please have more confidence in your instincts. The only people who do not read it that way are those who are smoking that magical “nuance” given off by a liberal daily dose of hopium.

Loxodonta on May 20, 2009 at 12:52 PM

Obvious a hole is obvious.

blatantblue on May 20, 2009 at 12:52 PM

Klein is disgusting. Always has been.

davenp35 on May 20, 2009 at 12:52 PM

Oh, but liberals like Klein are THRILLED when Krauthammer writes about the need for federal funding of embryonic stem cell research, and when he trashes social conservatives who oppose it. His position on this issue is 100% due to his own paralysis and hope that ESCR will help spinal cord injury victims like himself someday.

Good grief.

rockmom on May 20, 2009 at 12:54 PM

He can’t rightly accuse a hawkish pundit who’s handicapped of being too gutless to lace up the boots, so instead he turns it into faux sympathy for how poor Charles can’t help but be blinkered as a prisoner of his condition.

Also, there is nothing that I can find to indicate that Klein himself, who was born September 7, 1946, very prime age for Vietnam, was ever in any branch of the military.

MB4 on May 20, 2009 at 12:55 PM

Allah, I’m sure you would give Palin (or Romney, Gingrich, Limbaugh, Cheney, etc.) as much understanding if they made this statement about, say, Sen. Chuck Graham, D-Columbia, state senator from Missouri.

omnipotent on May 20, 2009 at 12:56 PM

In any intellectual discussion Krauthammer will beat Klein like a rented mule. Klein has been reduced to the pathetic rejoinder “You’re just a cripple.”

DamnCat on May 20, 2009 at 12:57 PM

If he could walk, his pursuits would detract from his writing.

I know if I was confined to a wheelchair, I would perform much better at the desk job I now have. Instead, I daydream about tonight’s softball game instead of doing my work.

moc23 on May 20, 2009 at 12:47 PM

Perhaps, but that’s for you to decide for yourself. Not for you to tell Krauthammer.

Upstater85 on May 20, 2009 at 12:57 PM

Maybe Specter could cure him… or better yet, if we all lay hands on Krauthammer and pray to Joe Klein’s god (Obama), he’ll walk!

Upstater85 on May 20, 2009 at 12:59 PM

It doesn’t really matter what his intention is. If your writing suggests what his does, then you are either a horrible person or a horrible writer (or both).

Upstater85 on May 20, 2009 at 12:51 PM

It does matter. But that he didn’t see it himself shows at least some insensitivity or distraction, if not willfulness. If I wrote such a thing, I’d be mortified and apologize as soon as I understood what I had done.

This article was published at 4:12 AM EDT. It’s been quite a while and no correction or apology yet. But perhaps it’s not quite enough time for Klein to wrote a “nuanced” response, or see if he can get away with it.

Loxodonta on May 20, 2009 at 1:00 PM

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