Quotes of the day
posted at 10:30 pm on May 19, 2009 by Allahpundit
“One of the things her partner said to her was, ‘I’m afraid of dying. Don’t leave me alone,’” said Judith A. Lonnquist, a lawyer for Ms. Reed. “That’s why the suffering was so enormous — she felt as if her partner was thinking she had betrayed her trust.”
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Put a lock of Meg McCain’s hair under a box, then pull the string tied to the stick holding the box up when AP crawls under it to get the lock
blatantblue on May 19, 2009 at 11:34 PM
thanks blatanblue, we are praying that God is merciful to her. I would not wish this walk on anyone, including Obambi. Off topic, but that is why I personally was very offended with Sikes monologue. She obviously has not seen anyone die slowly.
catlady on May 19, 2009 at 11:35 PM
oh, PercyB
I love the photo your name is linked to. IDK who that is
But you strike me as a very refined individual, might I say, indeed!
blatantblue on May 19, 2009 at 11:35 PM
aw..oh
eaglesdontflock on May 19, 2009 at 11:36 PM
Sorry, not buying it. The premise is completely wrong because it’s not exclusive to gays.
We don’t need gay marriage so current boyfriends/girlfriends/lifemates/whatevers can visit their loved ones. There’s usually a reason for such policies being implemented and as often happens with any blanket policy, regulation, and law; someone is always excluded.
What current local, state, or federal law is cited for the exclusion?
Sounds like the hospital screwed up so how about changing hospital policy? or people (doctors, nurses, patients, visitors) use common sense?
simon on May 19, 2009 at 11:36 PM
What’s wrong with you? I think we’ve exchanged enough posts for you to know by now that I’m crazy. So I’m a little more mind numbed than usual. Life happens. What would you have me do? Stay in bed all day with my cat, laptop and blankey? I’m not Allahpundit, you know!
Loxodonta on May 19, 2009 at 11:36 PM
I can understand that you didn’t know I am a man. But how did you know I had not been doing well? That’s very feline of you!
Loxodonta on May 19, 2009 at 11:38 PM
He likes beeeer.
thomasaur on May 19, 2009 at 11:39 PM
OUCH!!!!!
Do you need one of these?
You should feel lucky, I usually fall up the stairs.
Knucklehead on May 19, 2009 at 11:40 PM
meh. we’ll be changing biological tradition soon enough. this little spat over marriage will look quaint compared to what’s coming in my lifetime :-)
But in all honesty, the “rational debate” has already occurred. the states that want it are getting it, the states that dont aren’t. its not that people arent debating this…its that they already have. we’ve all decided. those who care not for gender distinctions, and/or have come to the conclusion that any benefits from exclusively straight marriage can be had through other means, will most likely back gay marriage. if enough of them populate a large enough area, they’ll codify that conclusion. its democracy.
ernesto on May 19, 2009 at 11:40 PM
In JetBoy’s little slice of the world everything is sad Perez Hilton propaganda. Nothing is what it is because everything is what it isn’t. And contrary-wise; what it is, it isn’t, and what it isn’t, it is. You see?
Cheshire Cat on May 19, 2009 at 11:40 PM
Ok I gotta crash — long day.
catlady, I wouldn’t wish it upon anyone either, and I hope you are doing as best you can with that situation. I can only hope I never end up in your position. I’m afraid I’m simply not strong enough to deal with that sort of thing like you people are.
Lox — hold on to the banister next time!!!
Knucklehead — cya tomorrow ;-D
blatantblue on May 19, 2009 at 11:41 PM
Later dude, see ya tomorrow.
I think I’m going to read my book.
Knucklehead on May 19, 2009 at 11:42 PM
Loxodonta on May 19, 2009 at 11:38 PM
Nah, I just remembered some posting a couple days (maybe longer) ago when you were not doing so hot. I was concerned, but can’t post much, since I have been up to my eyeballs with my sister’s latest round of stuff. I am concerned for you, and wish you better health. Hang in there, I enjoy your posts!
catlady on May 19, 2009 at 11:44 PM
He likes beeeer.
thomasaur on May 19, 2009 at 11:39 PM
I think you mean liiiiiiiiiiiiiiiikes.
Loxodonta on May 19, 2009 at 11:45 PM
I was going to do some pleasure reading before bed. A little “Stealth Jihad” by Robert Spencer (which was signed by him, Pamela Geller, and Frank Gaffney!!!! *school girl mode!!*).
Then again, reading about jihad really isn’t “pleasurable.”
But anyway, you goobers distracted (entertained) me AGAIN on HA.
Humbug
blatantblue on May 19, 2009 at 11:45 PM
To paraphrase Lloyd Bentsen, I’ve read Rand, and you’re no Objectivist. Judging by your one-line incoherent posts, you sound more like Lois Cook.
As do many of the trolls here. You and strangelet should get together.
UltimateBob on May 19, 2009 at 11:45 PM
Penn has some good points, he’s against gun control for one. Unfortunately, he had some very ignorant criticisms of the Bible some time ago.
aikidoka on May 19, 2009 at 11:46 PM
I live very minimally. I buy nothing unless it is essential to life. Except chocolate.
Loxodonta on May 19, 2009 at 11:48 PM
I know the feeling about getting distracted here. But I got the patio furniture and umbrella out today on the patio.
I planted lots of plants yesterday and those $#!#$ deer ate them all last night.
Knucklehead on May 19, 2009 at 11:49 PM
heartbreaking…but doesn’t persuade as far as same-sex marriage goes…good try though.
BTW, the Penn-Beck thing did prove one thing…Beck is as weird as I’ve always thought he was. Way too flexible on that ‘national defense’ thing as far as I’m concerned…yeah, Glen…after we ‘pull back’, everything will be just fine.
AUINSC on May 19, 2009 at 11:49 PM
Take me out to dinner and I’ll replant them for you.
Nighty
blatantblue on May 19, 2009 at 11:50 PM
Thanks.
Loxodonta on May 19, 2009 at 11:51 PM
I have had some experience in these matters. If you should be able to talk to her on the tele, then you should start the conversation with something like “You must tell me all about yourself, in every detail, but oh, so slowly, so very slowly, so that it takes a very, very long time”. The ladies just adore that.
PercyB on May 19, 2009 at 11:51 PM
You’re killing me here.
Loxodonta on May 19, 2009 at 11:52 PM
Say What??? Did I miss something here????
Knucklehead on May 19, 2009 at 11:54 PM
You see? You are here for a purpose!
Loxodonta on May 19, 2009 at 11:54 PM
Beck seemed to me…He wanted to be accepted by Penn. That was not the passionate forthrightness that Beck usually effuses. Was this the first time Penn was on the show?
daesleeper on May 19, 2009 at 11:55 PM
Women! Always the last to figure it out.
Loxodonta on May 19, 2009 at 11:56 PM
How about Hospitals just change their stupid policy? Sad.
ronsfi on May 19, 2009 at 11:56 PM
Yikes, hope you’re ok. I had a bit of an accident myself the other day so I am a bit less mobile for a while. I guess we’ll have to drive up traffic here at Hot Air.
OT: Early results in CA aren’t looking great for Ahnald
msmveritas on May 19, 2009 at 11:56 PM
Yeah, I’ve been watching his show maybe three days a week for the last few months and, although I like it, he’s no Limbaugh or Levin. A day or two ago he said that there are some people who shouldn’t be allowed to have a gun, and as an example he mentioned a guy, in his 20′s, (oh my god!), that went into a gun store with his girl friend, (what’s this world coming to?), and asked her what gun she liked, and she said she liked the, “pretty pink one”.!?!
So women that like pretty pink guns should have the right to own them?
Needless to say, I wasn’t overly impressed.
FloatingRock on May 19, 2009 at 11:57 PM
Nah, you’re just a dick.
spmat on May 19, 2009 at 11:59 PM
You could be him!
Although the chances do seem rather slim
But it would be the perfect disguise
One designed to even fool the wise
Here’s the one sweet lesson of history
Every soul is a mystery
Faces change.
What you thought you knew can grow strange
And we all have so many faces
The real self often erases
With all those lies dancing in our eyes!
PercyB on May 19, 2009 at 11:59 PM
Well, why’d you put food out for them if you didn’t want them to eat it?
FloatingRock on May 19, 2009 at 11:59 PM
Haven’t lived in Fort Lauderdale in 25 years, and I ‘m sure things have changed. Having said that, at one time Jackson Memorial was a major training hospital. The medical people ON THE SCENE have as their FIRST responsibility, the patient. If medical personnel decide that “civilians’ are interfering with treatment and/or procedures, they’re correct in tossing ‘em. My wife was told to leave ICU (very pointedly) when a hospital in Pompano Beach thought they were losing me. And at the time, my wife was eight months pregnant with our first child.
This episode seems like a set up to show that the poor homosexual “victim” needs even more special privileges.
ACLU in 5…4…3…
oldleprechaun on May 20, 2009 at 12:00 AM
So my purpose in life is to set up a salad bar for the pregnant deer?
Yikes on those results! Hope you’re not feeling too bad.
Knucklehead on May 20, 2009 at 12:02 AM
Yeah, most of the time he says stuff I agree with, but something is off with him. I’m not convinced about his core convictions…I’m not sure he really believes it. Too much Oprah going on in his head. Just another thing to file away about him.
AUINSC on May 20, 2009 at 12:03 AM
“should” should = shouldn’t
FloatingRock on May 20, 2009 at 12:04 AM
He says some good stuff, sometimes, but like I told daesleeper…I’m leery. Something isn’t right.
AUINSC on May 20, 2009 at 12:04 AM
I’ve seen enough of Penn on Glenn’s show, and on Bullsh*t to know that I agree with him on much more than I don’t. Good enough for me. (Would that make me a (:O) open tent guy?!? Nah, can’t be. I’m a wascawy Wepubwican.
bikermailman on May 20, 2009 at 12:05 AM
Well obviously, without any plants to sell, you won’t be, so somebody’s got to be making bucks and rolling in the doe.
Loxodonta on May 20, 2009 at 12:05 AM
Or Conservative, I should say. The Lortab is making me stoopid.
bikermailman on May 20, 2009 at 12:05 AM
Lox, you want some of my Lortabs? Good stuff!
bikermailman on May 20, 2009 at 12:06 AM
You don’t know whether Sir Blatantblue is mad, or … …
desperately in love? ‘Tis all the same.
PercyB on May 20, 2009 at 12:08 AM
FloatingRock on May 19, 2009 at 11:57 PM
I’ve been listening to Glenn for over four years now. Give it a go, he can elaborate a lot more on what’s going on in his ADD-riddled head. And he and the staff are funny as hell.
bikermailman on May 20, 2009 at 12:09 AM
Glenn’s had him on several times over the last year or so.
bikermailman on May 20, 2009 at 12:10 AM
LOL! Glenn is going on The View tomorrow. Gotta be a QOTD in that :)
Can’t wait to watch!!
deidre on May 20, 2009 at 12:11 AM
No thanks. Being spread eagled on my stomach once in a week is enough.
Loxodonta on May 20, 2009 at 12:12 AM
deidre on May 20, 2009 at 12:11 AM
Thanks for reminding me! DVR, here I come! :P BTW, how’s he going to do that, when his show is done 8-11 central?
bikermailman on May 20, 2009 at 12:12 AM
Hey, gimme some of those!!! I need the good stuff!
Knucklehead on May 20, 2009 at 12:13 AM
Great question; we shall see :) It is going to be a riot.
deidre on May 20, 2009 at 12:15 AM
Lortab, new bottle of Glenmorengie….lol
bikermailman on May 20, 2009 at 12:15 AM
Works for me. I’m a Conservative, everyone thinks I’m a crazy loon.
Knucklehead on May 20, 2009 at 12:15 AM
I still like him just fine but like AUINSC I’m not entirely sure about the depth of his convictions. I don’t have any doubts about Limbaugh or Levin, but with Beck I wonder…
FloatingRock on May 20, 2009 at 12:16 AM
As if Megatons advice wasn’t bad enough; now we are suppose to listen to Penn’s liberal friends?
Branch Rickey on May 20, 2009 at 12:18 AM
FloatingRock on May 20, 2009 at 12:16 AM
He’s taken a gradual road to get where he is today, but someone who has watched him go down it, yeah, it’s honest. The last couple of years he’s been doing a lot of reading up on history, both of the nation’s origins, and of modern politics/ideology.
bikermailman on May 20, 2009 at 12:19 AM
Fortunately, Madame, God will be your judge, and theirs.
PercyB on May 20, 2009 at 12:19 AM
O/T
California’s budget proposals are ALL FAILING (except the one that says lawmakers can’t get raises during a term…lol)
Only S.F. voted for any of the props so far….
http://vote.sos.ca.gov/returns/props/59.htm
Next up: CA Bailout?
battleoflepanto1571 on May 20, 2009 at 12:20 AM
Please tell me you did NOT just put slavery in a class with traditional marriage, Jet.
capitalist piglet on May 20, 2009 at 12:23 AM
You might consider a goal of not having conservatives also think you are a loon. Then again, Loons are great parents. And the most amazingly mysterious singers.
Loxodonta on May 20, 2009 at 12:25 AM
If so, I hope the political damage to those responsible will be so spectacular that their career’s all come to a sudden cataclysmic end.
FloatingRock on May 20, 2009 at 12:27 AM
well said, and I agree completely.
ThackerAgency on May 20, 2009 at 12:28 AM
I have them around here too. Do you have any idea how much they crap? And they wake me up in the morning. Bad loons.
Knucklehead on May 20, 2009 at 12:32 AM
Nature is messy and untamed.
It rarely grows in neat little rows.
Unshy it goes without any clothes.
That’s why Wild it was named.
Loxodonta on May 20, 2009 at 12:38 AM
Visiting policies can be changed. I think the story is bullshit myself. I have spent much time in hospitals and pretty much anyone can visit anyone within visiting hours, I am not buying it. Either way, this has nothing to do with same sex marriage anyway. This is the gay community trying to MAKE it about that.
echosyst on May 20, 2009 at 12:38 AM
O/T
Guess the No vote was so big, they don’t even have to count much of it, at least for the first question:
California voters reject state spending cap
Loxodonta on May 20, 2009 at 12:42 AM
i for one cannot believe this discussion is even happening.
sodomites have NO RIGHTS UNDER THE LAW.
Seven Seas on May 20, 2009 at 12:44 AM
I don’t know why you would believe that we don’t do things in the name of the will of the majority in a democracy. Majorities will elect law makers to enact the laws they want in a majority.
If a majority of people in a country want to stone adulterers, they will have laws to stone adulterers. I’m not sure why you believe it could ever be otherwise. Hell, there probably are Islamic countries who have laws to stone adulters or other laws that you and I wouldn’t agree with.
That is the problem with large democracies. We could take it to the ultimate conclusion of Large Democracy and have one democracy govern the entire world and the world majority will pass many laws that would call for stoning me to death. I’d have a lot company. Whites…Christians…Jews…capitalists.
Buddahpundit on May 20, 2009 at 12:47 AM
I’m still haven’t read the Times story, so am not sure how it applies, but I can assure you that people who commit acts considered Biblically immoral, do indeed have rights.
Loxodonta on May 20, 2009 at 12:49 AM
There are rumors on Twitter that CA Supreme Court ruling on Prop 8 is imminent. Could be an announcement tomorrow with a ruling on Thurs.
msmveritas on May 20, 2009 at 12:55 AM
I brought over my comment from when this was in the headline section. Being almost 1:30AM my time, i left in the spelling and grammatical errors, but at least I’ll laugh at myself for stating I’ll be brief before posting a several paragraph response:
DrAllecon on May 20, 2009 at 1:24 AM
Gay marriage and all the other divisive social issues are best decided by elected legislatures or the people through ballot initiatives. Courts fiats are the worst way to resolve these issues.
If the California Supreme Court invalidates the people’s vote and re-institutes its ruling against the will of the California voters, I hope impeachment cases are filed against every justice making such a ruling. And then, I hope the they are removed from office.
Lets talk through these issues. Not dictate answers.
Loxodonta on May 20, 2009 at 1:26 AM
Thanks. I now finally think I understand the story here, and agree with your response.
Loxodonta on May 20, 2009 at 1:28 AM
Why of why do libertarians always do this? The arguement is fallacious. No you aren’t going to roll back thousands of years of human history. Marriage was not some independent institution devoid of any affliation with anything, then “government” came along and put a bunch of rules on marriage in the 1920′s. People have codified marriage in every nation-state according to there religious traditions, period. Get over it. If libertarians want “the governmentt out of marriage” then the starting point is with changing the culture and growing their influnce not conflating gay marriage and government interference in marriage. Sheesh.
Theworldisnotenough on May 20, 2009 at 1:30 AM
Beck’s time with Jillette reminded me of Steele’s time with the rapper-interviewer a month or two ago where he trashed Limbaugh. Beck is nodding in agreement to things I really doubt he believes. He’d have to throw out his 9-12 principles and all to be cool for a comedian/magician?
Christian Conservative on May 20, 2009 at 1:34 AM
I agree completely. Roe v Wade has divided the country since 1973. A judicial fiat from CA is likely to end up @ SCOTUS and heaven knows how that would end up. If Gays are looking for equal treatment, I fail to see how anything but a legislative act would serve their cause.
I picked up on twitter that the left seems not overly optimistic in anticipation of this ruling. I did read on a blog or two that gay and lesbian activists intend to demand Dems support them or else. That sounds like some empty threats basically, still it should be interesting to see that play out.
msmveritas on May 20, 2009 at 1:38 AM
Jilete has been on Beck 4 or 5 times that I’ve watched… and Beck is much more a Libertarian than a Soc Con…
Its just that Beck does not seem to care who he ticks off… which I find… refreshing…
Romeo13 on May 20, 2009 at 1:44 AM
Since America is a Constitutional Republic, not a democracy, it’s more than just a question of majority will at a given point in time.
It’s sad how few understand the difference.
ThereGoesTheNeighborhood on May 20, 2009 at 1:58 AM
Very well stated. Libertarians seem to be so used to seeing the government as a villain that they blame it for everything.
The government did not define or create marriage, and has no real say in defining or shaping it now. If anything, it’s the reverse. Marriage creates families, and families come before governments not only in time (the first governments grew out of tribes, which are just extended families), but also in principle. Why should the lesser define the greater?
Isn’t it interesting that this debate is never about changing the government, but always about changing marriage to suit the wishes of government?
ThereGoesTheNeighborhood on May 20, 2009 at 2:04 AM
But we weren’t really talking about clear-cut constitutional issues. There are plenty of ways that a democracy can become intolerable to those who adhere to principles that are in the minority regardless of our, or any constitution.
And no constitutional protections can survive a motivated democratic majority opposed to those protections.
Buddahpundit on May 20, 2009 at 2:23 AM
Exactly. Many gloss over the fact that the point of being a Constitutional Republic means that the majority opinion is limited by the Constitutional framework the same way that each branch of government is limited. I keep telling people that, even if 100% of the people wanted to do something that was not in the Constitution, they would still not be able to do it by any sort of voting and would need to, first, exercise the mechanisms to change the Constitution which would then enable them to have it – either directly in the amendment or by amending a process to affect the change.
Most of America thinks that we live in a democratic super-state. Bush didn’t help anyone by misusing the term “Democracy” over and over and over. I used to retch every time he did that.
I can understand this coming from a Democrat, who wants a Democracy here, but Republicans are supposed to want a Constitutional Republic. I always thought the names of the parties kind of gave it away. But, I guess not.
progressoverpeace on May 20, 2009 at 2:30 AM
Someday I am going to hear Penn speak of “responsibility”, which is the flip side of “freedom”. You cannot have freedom without an equal dose of responsibility for your own actions when exercising your freedom.
Other than that, those two are WONDERFUL people.
{^_^}
herself on May 20, 2009 at 3:51 AM
How does it effect any of our lives if they do or don’t?
Seriously, this conservative/libertarian is not the least bit concerned about gays getting married or people having multiple partners. It doesn’t effect me, harm me or harm anyone or anything else.
Same goes for pot. I don’t care if people smoke it. I drink too much so why am I going to tell people what they can and can’t smoke in their own home.
Those are about the only two issues I lean Left on. Pretty much everything else I’m Center-Right.
Yakko77 on May 20, 2009 at 4:15 AM
I saw a clip of Penn over the weekend, he was talking about a fan who came up after a show and gave him a small Bible. Penn said if you really believe in something you should promote it and he thought that the man was sincere and nice. He compared it to warning someone that a bus was going to hit them. And although he restated his disbelief in God he encouraged Christians to continue to spread the word. I don’t know what to make of it.
Cindy Munford on May 20, 2009 at 6:19 AM
Good morning, Cindy. You look to be in perfect format today. My morning eye-popper:
Clinton-era hard drive missing from archives
Where is a good conspiracy theorist when you need one?
Loxodonta on May 20, 2009 at 6:51 AM
Video seems unrelated to the quote…
dogsoldier on May 20, 2009 at 6:51 AM
Ok sorry, I missed the link to the NY times. I will not read anything on their site.
dogsoldier on May 20, 2009 at 6:54 AM
I can’t bring myself to watch it. I’ve never thought Penn and Teller were funny. He’s made some anti-Christian remarks and caused some controversy when they did a “magic trick” based on Jesus hanging from the cross.
vcferlita on May 20, 2009 at 7:09 AM
I thought the original version of that tale was a second hand accounting of a botched magic trick.
Annar on May 20, 2009 at 7:34 AM
ok …so I’m not alone on this…I don’t get this thread…
jerrytbg on May 20, 2009 at 7:45 AM
Now I get it… senior moment...still… why?
I thought this point was beaten to death…
Why the need for an obtuse approach escapes me…silly…
jerrytbg on May 20, 2009 at 8:01 AM
Uh, why do conservatives like Glenn Beck. I’m sorry but nothing he said sounded very conservative.
terryannonline on May 20, 2009 at 8:04 AM
wrong video for the quote, but a great piece of video.
blish on May 20, 2009 at 8:08 AM
Check back in 2011 when the current tax cuts expire.
I give this till the end of the year, then they will be.
Ann NY on May 20, 2009 at 8:09 AM
Those people in the video are not attractive.
They should stick to radio where people can’t see them.
I counted at least 6 chins between the two of them.
strangelet on May 20, 2009 at 8:11 AM
He’s a fiscal conservative, a small government conservative, and is opposed to political corruption. So, there’s where we have agreement. Unfortunately, he also seems to be small government when it comes to national security and is a social liberal.
Loxodonta on May 20, 2009 at 8:13 AM
If someone’s screen-name is typed in ALL-CAPS, then trust me…they’re not “objectivists” about anything
/erectile dysfunction, perhaps, AYN?
bluelightbrigade on May 20, 2009 at 8:21 AM
I counted at least 6 chins between the two of them.
strangelet on May 20,2009 at 8:11AM.
strangelet: Now thats strange,strangelet!!
canopfor on May 20, 2009 at 8:21 AM
I’m sure you’re beautiful.
/Grow up.
bluelightbrigade on May 20, 2009 at 8:22 AM
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