Not another mess for me….

Rod:

Attention everyone, please. Do your best to ignore the spoiled, rotten little … thing/child in the room.

Sorry, but no dice. In my experience, you don’t kill a troll by starvation, you kill it by OVERFEEDING.

And that is what I intend to do.

but it poses no threat and deserves no response or attention whatsoever.

True, but its claims and its insults DO, lest they go unchallenged and undefeated.

Just go about your business whilst I call pest control.

Ah, but what if my business IS to be pest control?

Now that that is out of the way…

athensboy:

Before I start, I am still waiting for those response.

Dear goopers, you still don’t get it. Americans don’t agree with anything you say anymore.

And this has changed how? Americans have always been divided, and we have always been the targets of choice when we are out of power. And this represents what sort of dramatic change from the norm?

You are the outcasts. The pariah’s. Thats why you continue to get pounded in elections.

Obviously, cause/effect is screwed up for you. No, we are not losing the elections because we are pariahs and outcasts, we are pariahs and outcasts BECAUSE WE LOST THE ELECTIONS.

That being said, you are correct. And that is something we must work to change in the coming days, weeks, months, and years.

You’ve turned into whiny little babies.

In some cases, yes, but you are also projecting.

All you do is complain and pout.

In many cases, that is sadly true.

You think by getting angrier people will listen to you.

All depends on HOW we channel that anger.

Dude, Americans have stopped listening to rants.

And would this explain your dismal preformance on these boards?

You get crazier every day.

Define Crazy.

You lost most of the country when you agreed with Rush, when he said he wants Obama to fail.

A. Proof?

B. Obviously, you cannot differentiate between Obama’s policies and Obama himself, which even Rush took the time to mention AT THE TIME>

C. When are you going to read a transcript?

Gameover.Checkmate. Credibility gone.

Oh, like how it was “Gameover” and “Checkmate” for Clinton after Lewinsky?

You became the party of hate, plain and simple.

This coming from the advocate for Jihadists who has made lewd and idiotic comments and insults to a wide range of people, ethnicities, and creeds?

And yet you become more shrill, like doubling down will make everything alright.

Well, it worked for the DNC in 2006 and 2008.

Your party is a joke

True, but if efficiency truly depended on what partisan hack “comedians” used as punchlines, Truman, Washington, FDR, and Reagan would have all been failures. Nice try, please roll again.

, your chairman is a joke.

True.

Palin is a joke. Joe the plumber is a joke.

And so is your President, your Congress, you oh-so grand reforms, you allies, you foreign policy, and your knavish trust in our foes.

At least Palin, Joe, and the party can be effective under the withering scrutiny of YOUR Media, while you operate almost entirely unopposed and still trip over your feet.

But keep getting your hate on, its working so well for you.

Given the tea parties, the rallies, and the gun purchases, I would say it is.

But all depends on HOW we channel our anger.

Any other questions, knave?

Also, to the fool who drew up this ad:

I wish I could be gentler or less critical, but I can not.

The bottom line is that you made your choice, and now you are dealing with it.

You had the choice to hold your nose and vote for McCain like the rest of we beleaguered NeoCons, but you chose to adopt the whimsy-and-sparkle candidate as your own.

Bluntly, you had EVERY oppertunity to find out what Obama stood for. Legions of bloggers and true journalists spent thousands of manhours gathering data from the far reaches of the world. It took time to weed out the kooks, but the fact is that by a couple weeks away from the election, all the evidence, all the data, all the proof about who Obama was, who his allies were, and what he stood for were lying only a click away for your scrutiny.

But never once did you look.

Instead, you chose to believe in Obama, in spite of all the data, all the evidence, and all the people shouting abreast of you to stop and look at what you were doing.

And now, you are finding out that the mask is off revealed EXACTLY WHAT THE EVIDENCE LYING IN FRONT OF YOUR FACES THE ENTIRE TIME SAID!

In the meantime, the Jihad grows in strength and in boldness around the world, the Chinese are seeking to dominate the Pacific, and Russia has grown even bolder, unrestrained save for the Bush-era tripwire, which graciously remains in place.

Hundreds Millions of lives, hundreds of millions of real, out-of-the-womb lives are at stake here.

That it took the abortion issue to raise your ire, to force you to confront the man who has shown the foreign policy ineptitudeness of Ike in his two terms in his few dozen days in office reveals how short-sighted you are.

And now you are crying and yelling about it, about what we have been trying to tell you all along.

And now, we are all dangling on the slim hopes that our foes do not utilize the oppertunities they have to the fullest, that our allies and soldiers can stem the tide long enough to save the West itself, that Obama can learn to become an American president worthy of th eoffice.

And much of that, we owe to you.

And we will not forget it.

We may forgive you, but it will be long and hard, and only redeemable after a long travel through the wilderness to reaffirm both the party and your dedication to the faith you preach.

If you wish to go even further into Obama’s camp, you are welcome to do so. Unlike the Left, we do not have “plantations” keeping you bound under pain of disenfranchisement, of isolation, or of financial or personal ruin.

But we may judge as we please, and we shall judge you harshly.

And now the only way for you is to make a walk to Canossa in penitence for your failures.

Is this harsh? Yes.

But not unjustly so.

After all,

WE TOLD YOU SO, WE TOLD YOU SO, WE TOLD YOU SO!

Turtler on May 18, 2009 at 11:48 PM

Rod:

While I appreciate and understand your passion and agree wholeheartedly with all you’ve written,

Thank you.

It’s like arguing with a candy machine that spits out a Snickers when you paid for a Mars Bar. At best, you are wasting your time and at worst, allowing him to, yet again, hijack another thread. (Which, being the class A hypocrite I am, I’m contributing to.)

It’s like arguing with a candy machine that spits out a Snickers when you paid for a Mars Bar. At best, you are wasting your time and at worst, allowing him to, yet again, hijack another thread. (Which, being the class A hypocrite I am, I’m contributing to.)

I’m not sure you understand that, with athensboy, you’re responding to a robot.

A robot? I believe that comparison is an insult to robots. Whoever it is literally has no ability to argue rationally or to rise to the task. I know. The reference to “replies” refers to my previous rebuttals of him, where I am still waiting for a counter (which never comes). I know what he is like.

It’s like arguing with a candy machine that spits out a Snickers when you paid for a Mars Bar.

Nope, because at least then you have something tasty to eat (those allergic to peanuts nonwithstanding).

At best, you are wasting your time and at worst, allowing him to, yet again, hijack another thread. (Which, being the class A hypocrite I am, I’m contributing to.)

Actually, in my previous experience, the opposite is true. When somebody bothers to lay out the case in detail and persistently STAY on him and not let him do anything without nailing him, he tends to bolt. In addition, if nothing else, they at least deny him the ability to get the “final say.”

My comments are specific to athensboy who has proven to have neither the desire nor the intellect to debate anyone. His posts are limited to name calling which he cuts and pastes from his limited archive of liberal banality for one reason: to draw attention to himself so as to feed his screwed up ego.

True, and I know that well enough.

Like any pest, feeding him keeps him coming back for more. Leave him be. He will slink away.

I don’t believe so. He tends to stick on it and unless burned off, often will. Which is why I always tend to pound him in length and in detail to trigger his escape tendencies. He is an idiot, and one I don’t want to see, but my experiences have led me to believe that the best remedy is to respond with overwhelming force against him.

If your heart is to defend the faith against those that would attack it,

Ah, here’s another thing: I’m not seeking to “defend the faith,” persee, as I am just your normal, extremely cynical Diest, and my stance on abortion is that of critical ambivalence (I don’t like it, but I don’t see much that can cope with the issues at hand) at best. My main objective is to defend my values (which are most in common with Conservative principles than anything else, but are distinctly seperate on many occasions) as best as I can. And if that means laying the smackdown on Obama, athensboy, or extremely naive preachers with buyer’s angst, than I am perfectly willing to do so.

then I would suggest you choose a worthy opponent within a venue that’s topic-relevant and related and do battle there.

And I shall, and I often have. Indeed, I probably spend far more time doing that than I do moping up after the “drooling” trolls. But I believe that mopping up the “robots” is also necessary because failure to do so will condemn us by our silence and leave the field to them.

I would enjoy reading that, your time would be well-spent, and you might actually help lead some poor liberal fool out of the darkness.

All of which I hope to do, and am working on, and have been. However, somebody has to clean up after athensboy, and I volunteer.

And besides, we probably will not hear from him again for the duration of this thread, as I mentioned: he usually runs from my counters.

Turtler on May 19, 2009 at 3:11 PM

So the parade of idioticy continues unabated with yet another “robotic” troll:

strangelet:

I am still awaiting your responses.

Look….until the LIFE! warriors (including Benedict the Bad Shepherd) can accept that a differentiated cell clump is not “human life”, this argument goes no where.

Correction: until the LIFE! warriors can adaquately organize themselves and their views and both sides drop the outrageous and idiotic generalizations, this will go nowhere.

Also, how big does that “differentiated cell clump” have to be in order to be classified as sentient? How long along in its development cycle? How long after conception?

DO YOU REALIZE THAT YOU are a “Differentiated cell clump?”

First tri-abortions have to be free, legal, and easy.

Under what circumstances and with what level of parental consent? Should we make them so easy that one can literally FORCE a woman to have an abortion? Much depends on these parameters, fool, and while I am one of the more moderate and ambivalent individuals on this site in regards to abortion, even I am not foolish enough to not recognize the importance of these conditions.

Take a phreakin’ embryology course, stupid mouthbreathers.

I have, idiot. And I also have dealt with some births and abortions on a first-or-secondhand basis.

Have you?

And I am a mouthbreather. Indeed, I have it on my medical file and make no secret of it. I go to bed almost every night with a C-PAC to perserve my oxygen flow.

And I can still kick your sorry arse all over these forums.

And just because I am a mouthbreather does not mean the rest are, much less that they are “stupid.” Such generalizations merely shoot you in the foot.

You had had 8 years to overturn Roe.
It sure ain’t gonna happen now.

Remind me about “Separate but Equal.”

While I am moderately pro-Roe, I realize it could be overturned.

Turtler on May 19, 2009 at 3:31 PM