Oh my: Jim Webb flip-flops, now opposes closing Guantanamo
posted at 1:55 pm on May 18, 2009 by Allahpundit
To be more precise: He now opposes closing it anytime soon but naturally is A-OK with closing it at some murky, distant time in the future. Which, as far as I can tell, means he holds the same position on it as George W. Bush or Dick Cheney. Moe Lane thinks this is poll-driven but I’m more inclined to believe that someone with a national security background like Webb’s knew all along that it was a bad idea to close it and was simply giving The One political cover until there was a fig leaf available to let him flip-flop. The new military commissions are that fig leaf, allowing him to pretend that all the alleged defects in Bush’s approach have been cured and therefore Gitmo’s no longer a problem, so a flip-floppin’ we go. The more intriguing question is whether he’s undercutting Obama by doing this or actually secretly helping him out. Superficially it’s a headache for the White House to have a prominent Democratic senator disagreeing with them on Sunday morning TV, but given the respect Webb commands, this gives The One plenty of new political cover to do some flip-flopping himself. Time to put the nutroots on suicide watch?
Sorry to give you this in two clips but you need to watch both (especially the second) to get the full flavor of just how sharp a reversal this is. The first vid focuses on Webb’s opposition to another Obama policy — namely, releasing the 17 Uighurs detained at Gitmo into the United States because they’re no longer a threat except, of course, that they very much are. But then, we already knew that. Click the image to watch.
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I’m getting dizzy!
To close or not to close!
Distractions,Oh My!!!
canopfor on May 18, 2009 at 1:59 PM
“yea, uh, one day.”
“one day in the future some time at a further date to be announced.”
“at that time, which has yet to be determined, we will close gitmo.”
“eventually, when all the respective parties have come to some sort of consensus at one point in the future, we will close gitmo.”
“eventually.”
blatantblue on May 18, 2009 at 1:59 PM
I just wish someone would say “so you agree now with the Bush administration.”
deidre on May 18, 2009 at 2:01 PM
blah blah adults are
yadda yadda in charge
quackitty quack quack
Weight of Glory on May 18, 2009 at 2:01 PM
and VA threw out a perfectly good Sen. in George Allen for this POS? Oh well we in OH have no room to talk since we did the same thing in 2006.
gsherin on May 18, 2009 at 2:01 PM
Maybe the possibility of re-locating the Chinese Gitmo inmates to Virginia had something to do with his sudden concern for homeland security.
Wethal on May 18, 2009 at 2:01 PM
macaca
Brat on May 18, 2009 at 2:02 PM
Weasel. Are his constituents gearing up to give him the boot?
dogsoldier on May 18, 2009 at 2:02 PM
+1000
VelvetElvis on May 18, 2009 at 2:02 PM
Why is being responsible so hard for Democrats?
Emily M. on May 18, 2009 at 2:03 PM
This was actually one of the better “This Week”s in recent memory. Curious George Stephy was actually acting almost like a journalist, and it was such a treat to see Katrina Van-de-moonbat’s head almost explode trading barbs with Ms Cheney.
JamesLee on May 18, 2009 at 2:04 PM
Just seems like Sen. Webb realizes that now that Democrats have total control of the federal government, some of them have to start saying and doing responsible things.
Oh and the comments over at ABC are stunning. There is a guy who says As a Republican… “I have uncovered much of the real torture that will come out in Sy Hersh’s book (ie rape of young iraqi boys videotaped in front of their mother’s, Cheney’s contract assassins, the pedophile ring contracted by Cheney & Rumsfeld)…”
Bat feces crazy, that one.
myrenovations on May 18, 2009 at 2:05 PM
I hate the Webbhead! As a Virginian this guy has been the worst thing for us EVAH! He’s not oppossed to closing gitmo and releasing the terrorists here in the states – he’s opposed to them being released to Virginia specifically because people like me have been telling him (and our other elected tormentors) that if they release them here we’ll go a-huntin!
vapig on May 18, 2009 at 2:05 PM
Emily M. on May 18, 2009 at 2:03 PM
cuz responsibility is something they link to Republicans and why not it’s easy with our MSM.
gsherin on May 18, 2009 at 2:06 PM
Putz.
But then why would he be any different than all the other putzes in his retinue?
Badger40 on May 18, 2009 at 2:06 PM
Bolton’s ‘stache vs. Webb’s ginourmous forehead – who wins?
thirteen28 on May 18, 2009 at 2:06 PM
That dude has really bad hair.
D2Boston on May 18, 2009 at 2:07 PM
Oh, please. Bolton’s ‘stache would cut him.
Emily M. on May 18, 2009 at 2:07 PM
I thought the second step (after swearing allegiance to libtardness) was to get fitted with a pair of cement boots to prevent doing an about-face.
platypus on May 18, 2009 at 2:08 PM
Moonbats lies. They always call into radio shows and post as either conservatives and republicans and then launch into the usual moonbatty talking points. Happens here all the time. Proud Rino is a perfect illistraton.
Listen to what they say – not who they claim to be.
vapig on May 18, 2009 at 2:08 PM
hear that America Obama says he’s serious about preventing Iran from getting a nuke. Gosh I feel safe already.
elduende on May 18, 2009 at 2:09 PM
Bolton could outsmart pretty much any Democrat out there with 90% of his brain surgically removed.
The way these politicians flip flop is just hilarious to watch sometimes.
UltimateBob on May 18, 2009 at 2:09 PM
Or admitting that perhaps, some of Bush’s policies were a good and sound decision.
But since some seem to equate Obama as a god, they in turn feel they are as well?
capejasmine on May 18, 2009 at 2:10 PM
macaca
Brat on May 18, 2009 at 2:02 PM
*snort*
Well well well, suddenly the demorats have determined that the savages locked up in Gitmo are…GASP!…dangerous, that they aren’t all innocent balloon vendors who wandered onto a middle-eastern battlefield by accident.
Bishop on May 18, 2009 at 2:10 PM
I always got a BAD Vibe from this guy; that’s emotional and less than reasoned, but most of what he’s said and done just gave me a sense that he is a very troubled man whose demons are close to the surface
Janos Hunyadi on May 18, 2009 at 2:11 PM
ROFLMAO!!! I love the way you phrased that!!! LOL
capejasmine on May 18, 2009 at 2:11 PM
Liberal speak!
Is their any Liberals that can talk straight,without doing
a Kabuki pole dance!!
How about a poll,that 90 percent of Liberals
are completely screwed-up,and every Lefty is on
a different page!!
It’s a grand distraction,no different than the Clinton
Administration!
Mean while,back at Team Jihady,while the Liberal Party
has America destracted,there plotting,and as I said
before,its a slow process of DeJaVu!!!
canopfor on May 18, 2009 at 2:11 PM
Webb will advocate closing Gitmo if it is still open when the next Republican president sits in the WH. Webb will then blame the Republican president for keeping it open long after it should have been closed. He will accuse the Republican president of lying about torture at Gitmo and call for Congressional investigations and a special prosecutor…to prosecute Republicans only of course. At least I live in Virginia so I can vote against this SOB again.
sdd on May 18, 2009 at 2:14 PM
Bingo!
Webb is the forerunner for Obama’s upcoming Gitmo flip-flop. He’s providing cover and some semblance of reasonableness on military issues for Democrats, since he’s one of the few (if not the only) credible voices for Dems on this issue. (Why, I don’t know.)
STAT!
conservative pilgrim on May 18, 2009 at 2:14 PM
What kills me is that it NEVER occurs to libs/anti-war types that Obama flip-flopping in no way vindicates Bush and his policies. The fawning masses will have faith in their dear leader and whatever he touches but the second he does anything like Bush on the war on terror or affirms Bush’s policies it’s just Obama making the same mistakes (but lesser because, hey, he’s Obama).
Intellectual dishonesty is one thing but SHEESH!
oddjob1138 on May 18, 2009 at 2:14 PM
ummm i didn’t listen to eLrUSHbO today, but this sounds like it could have been plagerized, and I still love it…
UNREPENTANT CONSERVATIVE CAPITOLIST on May 18, 2009 at 2:14 PM
And not one peep,or Tweet,from El Code Pinko’s
having Obama carrying on with President Bush’s
policies!
canopfor on May 18, 2009 at 2:15 PM
Me too, the Republican who was sitting next to him should have said: “Welcome home Jim. I’m glad you are repudiating the Administration’s reckless approach to this problem and have adopted the republican position instead.”
forest on May 18, 2009 at 2:15 PM
So he gets a pass for lying for political expediency?
Webb is a no-class hack.
ladyingray on May 18, 2009 at 2:15 PM
Ah, true. So, they never really flip-flop, they just pretend? Because they realize the stupid American people are against them, and they may not get reelected. Damn the little people!
Emily M. on May 18, 2009 at 2:15 PM
Liberals decried Bush’s stubbornness…
Today’s WSJ page A4: “Liberals Decry Obama Compromises“
Caper29 on May 18, 2009 at 2:15 PM
Are the walls moving, again?
tarpon on May 18, 2009 at 2:15 PM
With the exception of Pelosi and the CIA, conservatives should step away from many of the national security issues and let Obama naturally come around to the conservative position. He doesn’t dare allow an attack on his watch.
As far as Pelosi and the CIA are concerned, a few conservatives should monitor these events as they unfold, but let Cheney hammer her and then selectively chime in.
In both cases, conservatives shouldn’t get mired in the muck. Turn to the economy and Obama’s associated nonsense of universal health care, cap-and-trade, other piecemeal natioalization of the economy, and, if Obama nominates an unacceptable SCOTUS nominee, Obama’s SCOTUS nomination.
Please stop Obama from damaging the economy further.
BuckeyeSam on May 18, 2009 at 2:16 PM
Apparently Obama’s statute of limitations on his statements is a pandemic in the left.
Christian Conservative on May 18, 2009 at 2:16 PM
That seems close to the truth. *sigh*
So glad the Dems make policy based on principles, and not polls or opposing party positions. /
conservative pilgrim on May 18, 2009 at 2:17 PM
UNREPENTANT CONSERVATIVE CAPITOLIST on May 18, 2009 at 2:14 PM
Been listening to Rush’s show today, he said no such thing; I am my own man.
Bishop on May 18, 2009 at 2:18 PM
They have a moving target. Different rules for different parties. Stinks.
conservative pilgrim on May 18, 2009 at 2:20 PM
A Democrat flip flops for political expediency?
Shocked
LincolntheHun on May 18, 2009 at 2:20 PM
We look like weaklings to the terrorists. This translates into the a potential lost of the lives of our servicemen. The same with the we are going to release the photos/we are not going to release the photos. Thanks for nothing, Donks.
Blake on May 18, 2009 at 2:22 PM
Hypocrisy suits them well. I’m waiting for the day it suddenly dawns on them “Hey, ya know, Bush had it right all along. Go figure.”
GarandFan on May 18, 2009 at 2:22 PM
I have to hunt down video on the exchange with Katrina and Cheney. I bet that was spectacular.
msmveritas on May 18, 2009 at 2:22 PM
MB4 on May 18, 2009 at 2:23 PM
The solution is so obvious. Find some facility with prison facilities that is closed and change it’s name to Gitmo and change Gitmo’s name to that other facility and the detainees can stay right where they are and no longer be at Gitmo.
MB4 on May 18, 2009 at 2:26 PM
No. Let them go.
trigon on May 18, 2009 at 2:27 PM
I understand why Webb wasn’t picked for the VP slot on the Dem ticket unlike Joe Biden he wouldn’t make the President look like the smart one. Obviously this is a significant enough issue that politicizing it is stupid. Who wants these people on American Soil raise your hand.
Webb is right nobody wants them! Face the reality you can’t close Gitmo on the present time line. Close Gitmo, I would just as soon relieve Marines of this lousy duty-detail. They are guarding the scum of the earth. Senator Webb is a retired Marine.
Dr Evil on May 18, 2009 at 2:28 PM
Ok, next question:
Webb’s forehead vs. flight deck of a Nimitz-class carrier – which is bigger?
thirteen28 on May 18, 2009 at 2:28 PM
Where have I heard that “Artificial timeline” talking point before? HHHmmmm
Mord on May 18, 2009 at 2:31 PM
It reminds me of the Haunted House attraction at Disneyland. The ceiling justs gets farther and farther away.
platypus on May 18, 2009 at 2:32 PM
- Hand goes up -
I vote for the Kennedy Compound at Hyannis Port .
MB4 on May 18, 2009 at 2:32 PM
Hope George Allen (or some other worthy figure) hands this guy his butt.
promachus on May 18, 2009 at 2:33 PM
NIMBY. Pure and simple.
BTW, notice how Webb does not whip out the “Marine Corps” card every time his mouth opens now? It made him sound a lot like Murtha, so he doesn’t do it as often.
Note to Webb: In about 5 billion years, the Sun will expand beyond the orbit of Earth, completely absorbing everything there is (and ever has been). If you and the other Dems could only find a way to delay closing GITMO until then……just think….5 billion years of blaming it on Bush, and never having to actually solve it…..
BobMbx on May 18, 2009 at 2:33 PM
Fine. But then the detainees will get corrupted and even more dangerous.
myrenovations on May 18, 2009 at 2:34 PM
George Allen is about as effective as a condom with tail fins. Flashy, but not practical or very comfortable.
BobMbx on May 18, 2009 at 2:35 PM
shocking…a politician reversing himself on an important issue…nothin’ like The Sunday morning blaab circuit to get these guyz to beat their chests like Donkey Kong.
RepubChica on May 18, 2009 at 2:36 PM
How about a little tit-for-tat? Put’em on a boat to Cuba.
BobMbx on May 18, 2009 at 2:37 PM
- Hand goes up -
I vote for the Kennedy Compound at Hyannis Port .
MB4 on May 18, 2009 at 2:32 PM
Okay I will give you that one if we get to pick the location. Lets use Google Map to find Huffington Post HQ. No need to drop them all in one location lets spread them out.
Dr Evil on May 18, 2009 at 2:39 PM
BobMbx on May 18, 2009 at 2:33 PM
I laughed at that, great line.
Mord on May 18, 2009 at 2:39 PM
Webb always looks like his head could detonate at any moment.
argos on May 18, 2009 at 2:40 PM
Obama has this naive checklist approach to meeting his commitments made in the primary.
It’s just stupid thinking. But it sure gave him an advantage, because people wanted to believe it.
AnninCA on May 18, 2009 at 2:42 PM
James Henry “Jim” Webb, Jr. (born February 9, 1946) is the senior Senator from Virginia. He is also an author and a former Secretary of the Navy under President Ronald Reagan. He is a member of the Democratic Party.
A 1968 graduate of the U.S. Naval Academy, Webb served as a Marine Corps infantry officer until 1972, and is a highly decorated Vietnam War combat veteran. During his four years with the Reagan administration, Webb served as the first Assistant Secretary of Defense for Reserve Affairs, then as Secretary of the Navy.
He was good enough for Reagan, and I am not going to disparage a man who served his country, and has a son who followed in his footsteps. Webb is no Murtha.
Dr Evil on May 18, 2009 at 2:44 PM
How tell me who was really playing politics with terrorism all along.
TheBigOldDog on May 18, 2009 at 2:44 PM
Heh.
baldilocks on May 18, 2009 at 2:44 PM
Are the nutroots demanding his head yet?
Speedwagon82 on May 18, 2009 at 2:54 PM
Another Dem showing how completely irresponsible and clueless they are in dealing with national security. Unaware of the fact that speaking BEFORE they have all the facts plays right into the hands of those who wish to do us harm.
Dems, the party of ‘Speak First, Think Later’. And, Biden is leading the pack.
Conservative_SAHM on May 18, 2009 at 2:57 PM
“what you mean we’ll get blamed now if we get hit by the little darlings again now?”
//blue dog
sven10077 on May 18, 2009 at 2:58 PM
Here is Webb President Bush and Webbs son who is a Marine. It occurs to me Webbs own son is fighting the very people that go to Gitmo. There is some reality leaking into the Obama Administration maybe? With this message above coming from Senator Webb the President has some cover to change his mind on Gitmo?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Jim_Webb_with_son_Jimmy_and_George_W._Bush_2008.jpg
Dr Evil on May 18, 2009 at 2:58 PM
Obama leaped before he looked, and reality bites him in the butt. It was easy to sign an Executive Order, but now he needs to deal with the elephant in the room: What do we do with the
terroristsdetaineesprovocateurs of human-caused disasters?Nobody wants them in foreign countries. Nobody wants them in U.S. courts or U.S. jails. Yes, Virginia, nobody wants them there either, which is why Webb backed out.
So the Prince of World Peace Hussein the First has four choices:
1. Release them somewhere, and accept the political consequences if they kill Americans.
2. Shoot them within a year.
3. Repeal the Executive Order and detain them indefinitely.
3. Try them with military tribunals.
Option (1) is too dangerous, option (2) would anger the Left, option (3) would be flip-flopping, and option (4) would be the unforgivable sin of what that brutal incompetent war-monger George W. Bush did for seven years.
So what’s a poor widdle Pwesident to DO when he’s twapped?
Speeches are beautiful. Reality bites.
Steve Z on May 18, 2009 at 3:01 PM
“sometime in the future” translation = during the next republican administration when that football needs to be kicked around for reelection again.
CaptainObvious on May 18, 2009 at 3:02 PM
I understand what you are saying, and it’s why I don’t criticize him. But, your argument is badly flawed: Almost two million men and about 7,000 women served in Vietnam, and many of them have a son or daughter in the military
That by itself does not qualify anyone for the U.S. Senate–and by itself does not provide a shield for criticism. If it did, we need to greatly expand the Senate, and the ‘statue of limitations’ for many crimes
You disprove yourself by mentioning Murtha: Service in Vietnam is Good, but what you do after that counts also
Webb ran a scummy dishonest campaign against a decent man, and has acted at times like a typical dishonest Demo. I don’t wish him any harm–I just wish he had lost to Allen ( and wish he will not win re-election )
Janos Hunyadi on May 18, 2009 at 3:04 PM
So was Souter.
Darn, sounds like Kerry.
Sounds even more like Kerry:
I was for closing GITMO before I was against it.
And don’t bother us with the Libtardian logic that changing a policy position once the facts are known is a good thing. Wrong. Making a decision without the facts is a bad thing. All he has done is confirmed the correctness of the previous policy.
Sorry, POTUS is not an apprentice position. And “Trial and Error” is not an acceptable management style.
BobMbx on May 18, 2009 at 3:10 PM
Janos Hunyadi on May 18, 2009 at 3:04 PM
I mentioned Murtha in contrast so NO my argument isn’t flawed Murtha also served n the Marines and in Vietnam and I wouldn’t on any day of the week defend John Jack Murtha.
After that I never stated that Vietnam service is Good although I have had family that served in Vietnam I made no statement on Service In Vietnam I stated Jim Webb’s service in the Marines.
George Allen did a lot of good things for Virginia. I have remarked on what he did for Indian Tribal Identification many times over by authoring the bill to return their tribal status. If anyone had paid attention to his record on minorities instead of sound bites in the media, he should have won re election but he didn’t and even James Webb stated it was a gotcha game in the media.
Dr Evil on May 18, 2009 at 3:12 PM
Being a Marine in no way negates the fact that Jim Webb is a no-class political hack.
ladyingray on May 18, 2009 at 3:12 PM
He was only “good enough for Reagan” because the Dims were totally anti-military during the 80s and he had no choice but to suck up to Republicans back then.
Speedwagon82 on May 18, 2009 at 3:14 PM
BobMbx on May 18, 2009 at 3:10 PM
I am not going to ridicule James Webb and his service to his Country but if you want to follow Alinsky Rules be my guest. Comparing Webb to Kerry not hardly. Webb still defends our fighting in Vietnam in the first place.
I am American First that Means I am Anti Terrorist. Political squabling comes in way behind keeping the country safe and terrorist off of American Soil.
Dr Evil on May 18, 2009 at 3:16 PM
That was GHW Bush, not Reagan.
myrenovations on May 18, 2009 at 3:17 PM
Speedwagon82 on May 18, 2009 at 3:14 PM
Except he wasn’t sucking up he was a Republican no one really knows about James Webb who is comment here do they?
Dr Evil on May 18, 2009 at 3:17 PM
James Webb used to be a Republican before he was a Democrat he states it in his books. I have actually read some of what James Webb writes.
Dr Evil on May 18, 2009 at 3:19 PM
If we had a media that had any integrity, the first question asked in the next White House
kabuki playnews conference would be:So Mr, President, what exactly has changed since you and Senator Webb and all the other Dems were savaging President Bush for Gitmo? Please be specific, thanks.
Or how about a variation on the media’s favorite “What was your worst mistake?” question for GWB:
“Of all of the flip-flops you have had to make when confronted with the reality of governing, which one do you think was the most transparently opportunistic, or that we in the media needed to give you the most cover for?”
Jake Tapper, call your office.
drunyan8315 on May 18, 2009 at 3:20 PM
Arrrgh….
BobMbx on May 18, 2009 at 3:22 PM
Webb’s shifting partisan allegiances are well documented. He swung to the GOP due to his disgust with the post-Vietnam Democratic Party, recently telling George Will that Jimmy Carter’s decision to pardon the draft evaders was pivotal, but was never a Republican regular. He supported Bob Kerrey’s bid for the Democratic presidential nomination in 1992 and endorsed Democratic Sen. Chuck Robb over Oliver North in 1994 only to back George Allen over Robb in 2000.
Yet Iraq is the single biggest factor that drove Webb from the Republican Party. It is difficult to see how Webb’s Iraq prescience—he was antiwar long before the invasion—helps Miller. Memories of the 2000 Allen endorsement may fade after 11 former senior staffers to Robb announced their support for Webb. And Miller’s own background as president of the Information Technology Association of America (ITAA) provides opposition researchers just as much fodder as Webb’s voting history and writing portfolio.
http://www.amconmag.com/article/2006/jun/19/00016/
Dr Evil on May 18, 2009 at 3:22 PM
With respect, Doctor Evil, the argument you made in that post is not valid because the premise is incorrect. “He served his country” does not preclude anyone from ‘disparaging’ him, because his service was forty years ago and we can legitimately disparage him for what he has done since then.
Regan appointed him SECNAV but there have been many sub-Cabinet appointees who deserve a LOT of disparagement. You can’t have a valid argument based on a ‘non sequitor’
NOW ( and during the past two years ) he is a U.S. Senator who displaced George Allen–and that is how he should be judged and evaluated.
Janos Hunyadi on May 18, 2009 at 3:25 PM
Janos Hunyadi on May 18, 2009
I don’t agree with you that does not mean my points are not valid it only means you don’t wish to consider them.
Take this as my final response I have made my position clear.
Dr Evil on May 18, 2009 at 3:27 PM
Who is “Miller” in this quote?
ladyingray on May 18, 2009 at 3:28 PM
So he’s an amalgam of Kerry and Specter.
My opinion of GITMO hasn’t changed one iota. The facts about GITMO have not changed one iota either.
So when President Obortion and/or anyone else changes their position concerning GITMO, the real question is WHY?
The list of possible answers is short:
1. They didn’t know the facts when they decided to close GITMO (inexperience, ignorance, selective deafness). The facts were available and public.
2. They ignored the facts.
Either way, the Doofus Club strikes again.
BobMbx on May 18, 2009 at 3:29 PM
Um, okay. What do you think about, say, Oliver North?
ladyingray on May 18, 2009 at 3:29 PM
Webb flip-flopped as soon as they mentioned the possibility of housing and trying the prisoners in Alexandria, Va. Lots of powerful voices there.
jintrabar on May 18, 2009 at 3:30 PM
Webb is no liberal democrat. He may not be republican, and for many people on this board politics is too simply republican vs. democrat, a bid childish for me but ok. Webb was a highly decorated combat marine and I do not think, no matter which party he is in, he would favor policies that hurt America or make America less safe. The guys son was in Iraq for a couple of years. Webb is the time of democrat that is needed a more conservative Scoop Jackson, Sam Nunn type.
And all the name calling on this board and some people’s inability to have a debate that is not quickly reduced to the lowest common level has turned this board into something like the Daily Kos or Huffington Post. I liked this place better when Michelle had her funny videos.
Let’s be glad that Webb opposes closing Gitmo.
arizonateacher on May 18, 2009 at 3:35 PM
Webb used to be a Republican and served in the Dept. of the Navy under Reagan. He is a veteran also. He is also a good example why term limits may only have a limited effect on good governance. He is a political creature of Washington, a professional politician like the rest.
riverrat10k on May 18, 2009 at 3:36 PM
Webb is simply a political opportunist. He does not now – nor has he ever cared for anything beyond “James Webb” – if it’s good for Jimbo – then you’d better like it – and if not, then too bad.
Arrogant – this is the guy that got busted with the firearm entering Congress but then again – handguns were outlawed in D.C. at the time I believe. It doesn’t matter – because James Webb is a part of the “Lordship” class of Americans – and he is not to be challenged by lowly serfs as we.
I seem to remember a time when I was in the Navy when James Webb, the Secretary of the Navy – got into a bit of hot water over insisting that he be allowed to fly himself around in Navy fighters. Of course – the SECNAV is a civilian and shouldn’t be doing that. But whatever – hey, it’s James Webb and he’s above the law and most importantly – ABOVE YOU.
HondaV65 on May 18, 2009 at 3:37 PM
Okay, Doctor Evil and arizonateacher, you win ( jointly ): Webb is above criticism because he was a Marine.
arizonateacher, you need at least one specific example to even begin comparing this blog to “something like Kos or HuffPo”. If you are going to make such a grossly unfair and inflammatory statement you need to support it with evidence
Your statement that there’s been no debate “that is not reduced to the lowest common level” here also needs some sort of proof–to avoid being a juvenile insult, and false.
I judge Webb on how he ran his campaign and how he has acted as a Senator–and again, as I pointed out, I don’t publicly criticize him
Janos Hunyadi on May 18, 2009 at 3:44 PM
Sorry, when you put on the uniform of a politician, you have to take off the military uniform.
You can use your military service to show leadership experience (if you got that far).
You can’t use your service as a shield for political mistakes.
BobMbx on May 18, 2009 at 3:45 PM
Whatever Webb’s personal good attributes, he comes off as a nasty guy. Way nastier than McCain who was lampooned mightily for it. But I do wish we could recruit Republican equivilents of him for Blue States without the base throwing a fit.
Speedwagon82 on May 18, 2009 at 3:49 PM
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