Obama would select Dr. Mengele for Surgeon General,if he was still around.

Just greatly wondering if Obama us the Anti Christ.
Maybe.

Chekote on May 19, 2009 at 12:31 PM

Exactly, one of the wonders of the world, is how leftist the Catholic organization is.
They are truly supportive of most every socialist regime. Democracy is not something they embrace.

The issue isn’t about abortion for me, anyway. It’s about respect for differing perspectives and civil dialogue.

AnninCA on May 18, 2009 at 1:20 PM

Great then lets have some respectful dialogue.
You are for the Presidents position, I am against.
Here is my argument:
I think it is wrong to suck a fully formed baby out of a mothers womb after puncturing the fully functioning brain. I think it is murder in this instance. I also think it is a travesty to pull the baby out of the womb, and even though still alive, and healthy, you kill it on the operating table.
Now you may defend your position:

Not so easy to have a discussion, when one side viciously murders innocent children…but then I haven’t heard your explanation of why this is good for America, and a righteous thing to do.
I will wait for your discerning rebuttal.

-Lenin-

Amy Welborn responding to Obama’s speech at Notre Dame doesn’t see a real opening here for true dialogue.  However, referring to the Catholic Church’s long  “and vibrant history of engagement with political philosophy from Aug…

538 is the pollsters mecca

I call BS.

It is run by an Obama supporter.

Your problem is that while people might support restrictions on abortions, they simply do not support overturning Roe.

Because they’ve been lied to about what “overturning Roe” means.

Presumeably you neither have abortions or perform them, so that is not the blood of YOUR unborn children.
MYOB and GTFO.

When a criminal has a gun to your head, do you want me (and the rest of society) to MMOB and GTFO?

Yeah, that’s what I thought.

Too much like Revrum’ Wright for comfort when it becomes all about him rather than Him.

Many comments on my discussion centered on the issue of abortion, and that is an especially difficult issue for someone who believes in individual rights. For there is an obvious conflict between the rights of women to control their bodies and their motherhood, and the rights of fetuses that might be far enough along in their development to be considered human beings. This is a very prominent example of the general difficulty of determining where to draw the line when the rights of children conflict with the rights of their parents. I do not claim to have a definitive resolution of this conflict in the case of abortion, or in some other parent-child conflicts. But I come down on the side of women’s rights to make decisions about their body, except in very late term abortions where fetuses can survive outside a woman’s body, and therefore can be considered real children.

verdict

Presumeably you neither have abortions or perform them, so that is not the blood of YOUR unborn children.
MYOB and GTFO.

strangelet on May 19, 2009 at 8:58 AM

My word. You are a bitter, heartless, self-centered, selfish bastard aren’t you?

MYOB and GTFO in a thread dealing specifically with abortion?

Can’t you at least excuse the doc for having a heart for all humanity rather than just the humanity you deem politically correct while you kill off the rest?

Slimeball. Go back under the rock you slid out from under.

I only wish that the error of thought by many Christians didn’t have to be recorded with the blood of our unborn children.

Mormon Doc on May 19, 2009 at 6:03 AM

Presumeably you neither have abortions or perform them, so that is not the blood of YOUR unborn children.
MYOB and GTFO.

And….look what I found!
Sample bias in Pew!! Outlier Alert!

More like wishful thinking from a leftist website.

This ugly spectacle is an embarrassment to all Catholics

I agree:

This ugly spectacle of a Catholic institution honoring a virulently pro-dead baby President is an embarrassment to all Catholics

It is interesting to me to consider the university president’s remarks and how they would have been received by More. The gap in her logic would undoubtedly have been seized upon by More and I like to imagine that once his shock wore off about how someone so high in church responsibility could be so poor in understanding, he would have pummeled her rhetorically.

The fact that she would raise the issue of charity to shield her galactically erroneous assertions regarding the single issue “mobs” is nothing short of stunning. What issue could demonstrate a lack of charity more plainly than an unwillingness to stand in defense of our society’s most vulnerable citizens.

I know first hand the hurt that invariably results when a prominent member of a person’s faith so shamelessly and wrecklessly dishonors the doctrines held sacred by the rank and file (Reid, Hatch, Romney, Huntsman) It is insulting and infuriating. These people are charged with at the very least keeping the faith if not defending it. And yet so many look down their noses and condescendingly explain that what we believe is right but… These people then seek to enlighten us by parsing the word of God and showing us the loopholes in the doctrine that we would have seen if only we weren’t such a bunch of rubes.

More had it right but unfortunately had to seal his teachings with his blood. I only wish that the error of thought by many Christians didn’t have to be recorded with the blood of our unborn children.

Cheers to the protesters who had the courage to stand up for their convictions. The smearers, as I understand Catholicism, have some serious atoning or repenting to do to get to the good place.