Awesome news: Pakistan ramping up production of nukes

posted at 9:29 am on May 18, 2009 by Allahpundit

Makes sense. What better way for a country that’s dangerously unstable and beset by radicals to spend its money during a global recession than by saturating itself with doomsday weapons? I only hope they saved a little for the smallpox program.

This is like a police hostage situation. Pakistan’s the desperate nut with a bomb who’s threatening to set it off and kill everyone around him and we’re the negotiator who has to talk him down somehow. We can’t make a move on him for fear that he’ll explode and we can’t walk away for the same reason. We’re at his mercy.

Members of Congress have been told in confidential briefings that Pakistan is rapidly adding to its nuclear arsenal even while racked by insurgency, raising questions on Capitol Hill about whether billions of dollars in proposed military aid might be diverted to Pakistan’s nuclear program…

The administration’s effort is complicated by the fact that Pakistan is producing an unknown amount of new bomb-grade uranium and, once a series of new reactors is completed, bomb-grade plutonium for a new generation of weapons. President Obama has called for passage of a treaty that would stop all nations from producing more fissile material — the hardest part of making a nuclear weapon — but so far has said nothing in public about Pakistan’s activities.

Bruce Riedel, the Brookings Institution scholar who served as the co-author of Mr. Obama’s review of Afghanistan-Pakistan strategy, reflected the administration’s concern in a recent interview, saying that Pakistan “has more terrorists per square mile than anyplace else on earth, and it has a nuclear weapons program that is growing faster than anyplace else on earth.”…

But the billions in new proposed American aid, officials acknowledge, could free other money for Pakistan’s nuclear infrastructure, at a time when Pakistani officials have expressed concern that their nuclear program is facing a budget crunch for the first time, worsened by the global economic downturn. The program employs tens of thousands of Pakistanis, including about 2,000 believed to possess “critical knowledge” about how to produce a weapon.

Indian media’s already picked up the story, which means public pressure on their government to confront The One about U.S. “aid” to the enemy will be spiking. It’s actually fitting that this news is breaking on a day when Obama’s meeting Netanyahu to whine about a Palestinian state, since it underscores how effective Arafat was in making his pet cause top priority for international peacemaking. In a sane world, the top priority would be forging a final settlement of Kashmir and lasting peace between India and Pakistan so that Islamabad could ease off the nuclear accelerator and focus properly on dealing with the Taliban. Instead, we’re jerking around with Israel about manufacturing a state for a people that aren’t ready for it and probably don’t even want it. Exit question: Who are these new nukes aimed at, anyway? The obvious answer is India, especially post-Mumbai with tensions peaking again, but I’m not so sure. The more dangerous Pakistan is, the more America has to equivocate between it and India and the more aid we have to provide to try to keep the country stable. They may be literally aimed at India, but isn’t the point of building them aimed at us? And to think — your tax dollars are paying for them.

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This’ll all blow over eventually.

Akzed on May 18, 2009 at 9:31 AM

In a sane world, the top priority would be forging a final settlement of Kashmir and lasting peace between India and Pakistan so that Islamabad could ease off the nuclear accelerator and focus properly on dealing with the Taliban

Allah I really like you but this is wrong on so many counts.

Gaurav on May 18, 2009 at 9:31 AM

Good news all around; Pakistan and Iran armed with city destroyers.

Perhaps Ogabe should move on his promise to invade Pakistan if the situation warrants, THAT would make the base happy.

Bishop on May 18, 2009 at 9:32 AM

Members of Congress have been told in confidential briefings

Unfortunately, Pelosi doesn’t understand what is said at these briefings, so it doesn’t matter what congress has been told…it doesn’t exist.

right2bright on May 18, 2009 at 9:33 AM

Exit question: Who are these new nukes aimed at, anyway?

They are aimed at being sold on Craigslist.

myrenovations on May 18, 2009 at 9:33 AM

Allah I really like you but this is wrong on so many counts.

Gaurav on May 18, 2009 at 9:31 AM

I don’t think he’s necessarily wrong here…our long term goal can only be to convince India and Pakistan that they are no longer enemies, that the cold war is over, and that we’re all on the same anti-terror pro prosperity team.

Whether that should be the immediate focus…im not so sure. The immediate focus should be realizing that the army runs Pakistan with an iron fist, they’re the only ones who know where the nukes are…prime ministers get a nice tour through a fake facility and are then shuttled off due to “radiation concerns”. making sure we know as much as possible about the army and its whims should definitely be the focus, as they’re the only actor that matters.

ernesto on May 18, 2009 at 9:34 AM

This’ll all blow over eventually.

Akzed on May 18, 2009 at 9:31 AM

Yeah, every cloud has a silver lining.

BigD on May 18, 2009 at 9:35 AM

Exit question: Who are these new nukes aimed at, anyway?

The export market, and ultimately New York Harbor (hopefully after you move from NYC).

steveegg on May 18, 2009 at 9:36 AM

They’re probably pist Obama keeps mispronouncing the name of their country to make himself sound smart.

loudmouth883 on May 18, 2009 at 9:38 AM

This is the kind of thing that happens when an islamic country obtains nukes. If you think Islamabad’s behavior is reckless, wait ’til ya get a look at Tehran’s.

OhioCoastie on May 18, 2009 at 9:38 AM

Meanwhile, Paki officials are getting expensive lap dances in Manhattan.

JammieWearingFool on May 18, 2009 at 9:40 AM

What better way for a country that’s dangerously unstable and beset by radicals to spend its money

You mean “our money”, as Pakistan is quickly going bankrupt and survives only with injections of capital from us.

Pakistan is in serious need of some glassification.

Of course, we know that The Precedent will make sure that the situation in Pahk-ee-stahn gets totally out of control. A little look at The Precedent’s old passport that was used for his trip there would probably give some good hints as to why he’ll do this – for those dense folks who haven’t quite figured out how truly anti-American The Precedent is.

progressoverpeace on May 18, 2009 at 9:41 AM

ernesto on May 18, 2009 at 9:34 AM

With due respect, this is the exact Clintonian hyphenation which annoys almost everyone in India. Long story short, please don’t equate India with Pakistan, it is not us who are imploding, it is not us who have indoctrinated generations of children with hatred for Pakistan, it is not us who are sending terrorists to butcher Pakistanis.

And please Kashmir has nothing to with Pakistani schizophrenia. It’s sole raison d’etre is not being India, and as long as India remains stronger Pakistan will continue to remain paranoid and indulge in self destruction.

Gaurav on May 18, 2009 at 9:41 AM

And boom goes the dynamite.

SoulGlo on May 18, 2009 at 9:41 AM

Many elements in the Pakistani military are sympathetic to the Taliban. They could be ordering increases so the Taliban will have a larger arsenal when they finally attempt their coup.

Techie on May 18, 2009 at 9:42 AM

Dude, that is what the Pakis have been doing with their American taxpayer WoT monies all along. The ISI is coopted by the Talis, dooontcha know.
Bush probably thought that was a good idea.
Afterall, both the Bioluddite Council and Rumsfeld got Bush to do what they wanted by quoting the Bible at him….likely Musharraf just did that too.
;)

strangelet on May 18, 2009 at 9:43 AM

This’ll all blow over eventually.

Akzed on May 18, 2009 at 9:31 AM

Yeah, every cloud has a silver lining.

BigD on May 18, 2009 at 9:35 AM

Mushroom cloud, I think. Don’t worry, Obama will talk to them and then tell us that he convinced them not to kill each other.

Good thing we have a Messiah around otherwise we’d be in big trouble.

turfmann on May 18, 2009 at 9:45 AM

hey, MAYBE they are aimed at the Taliban. YEAH. And dude, they aren’t aiming them at us. . . we are their goose that laid the golden egg. If they kill us, they’ll have nobody to give them gold anymore.

They CAN’T aim at us either because their missile technology couldn’t even get the weapons to the other side of India. So no, they aren’t aiming them at us. . . which is why we should have specifically treated Pakistan the way we treated Iraq. Yes, they are a nuclear powered country, but NO, they can’t hit us if they wanted to.

ThackerAgency on May 18, 2009 at 9:46 AM

You know what would destabilize the Mid-East more than the Israel/Palestine situation?

Limited Nuclear War between India and Pakistan. Might want to think about priorities, Obama.

Techie on May 18, 2009 at 9:50 AM

our long term goal can only be to convince India and Pakistan that they are no longer enemies,

This is like saying our long term goal should be to convince the USA and Al Qaeda that they are no longer enemies. Pakistan hates India. India could care less about Pakistan so long as Pakistan doesn’t keep terrorizing its citizens.

Kashmir is COMPLETELY INDIAN. There is NO PART OF KASHMIR that is Pakistani. It would be like Mexico all of a sudden starting to fight over southern California and Arizona. Then some outsider says. . . we need to make peace between Mexico and the USA. There would be peace if Pakistan didn’t fight. India is defending itself.

ThackerAgency on May 18, 2009 at 9:53 AM

The Pakistani leadership, while “moderate”, are still muslims. I belive that they ramping up the nukes just incase Pakistan falls. Being muslims, they still want to see Israel and the USA destroyed, and I think they are doing this just so that if the Taliban come to power, they will have even more nukes to get a hold off.

The Pakistanis know the US will have to send in comandos to take control of the nukes if the Taliban take power, so they want to ensure there are enough nukes that no matter what the US does, the Taliban will still get ahold of some.

We are headed for dark times.

gozzak on May 18, 2009 at 9:53 AM

ThackerAgency on May 18, 2009 at 9:53 AM

Once again, you totally get it. Thanks for clarifying the problem.

Gaurav on May 18, 2009 at 9:55 AM

Well it’s quite clear that Obama’s call for the elimination of nuclear weapons certainly impressed Pakistan.

rplat on May 18, 2009 at 9:55 AM

Pakistan has to start going into the blackmail mode soon: “Either we get more aid (or whatever) or these nukes may fall into the wrong hands…”

Pakistan is more worried about India than the Taliban.

Anything outside of the US is a very low priority and distraction in Obama’s eyes. He already apologized, what more is he supposed to do?

albill on May 18, 2009 at 9:56 AM

Why is it newsworthy that Eminem wants to nail Palin?

I mean, who really gives a shit?

blue13326 on May 18, 2009 at 9:57 AM

Well it’s quite clear that Obama’s call for the elimination of nuclear weapons certainly impressed Pakistan.

rplat on May 18, 2009 at 9:55 AM

Maybe his divine message hasn’t ben translated yet?

myrenovations on May 18, 2009 at 9:59 AM

I’m starting to wonder if it wouldn’t be better to just close up ranks and let the middle east destroy itself and go clean up the mess once they’re all dead.

rollthedice on May 18, 2009 at 10:02 AM

In a sane world, the top priority would be forging a final settlement of Kashmir and lasting peace between India and Pakistan so that Islamabad could ease off the nuclear accelerator and focus properly on dealing with the Taliban

In a sane world, a Senator who fomented a pro-Sharia revolution in Kenya would not be elected President of the United States. But we are not in a sane world, so that we have to trust Netanyahu to educate our President about the threats in the real world, and how to deal with them.

There IS an adult in the White House, at least until Bibi goes back to Israel.

Steve Z on May 18, 2009 at 10:03 AM

Kashmir is COMPLETELY INDIAN. There is NO PART OF KASHMIR that is Pakistani. It would be like Mexico all of a sudden starting to fight over southern California and Arizona. Then some outsider says. . . we need to make peace between Mexico and the USA. There would be peace if Pakistan didn’t fight. India is defending itself.

But that’s also true, if not truer, of Israel and Palestine. My point in the post was that whether you believe India and Pakistan are capable of peace, if the world’s going to throw its weight behind at least trying to broker peace between two enemies, why focus on Israel and Palestine instead of Pakistan and India? It’s inane.

Allahpundit on May 18, 2009 at 10:06 AM

Silence. I kill you.

Daggett on May 18, 2009 at 10:06 AM

I do think it makes sense fo rthe Pakis to add to the arsenal. The are parinoid of India on the east, and now they have a pretty firm indication for Obama that he won’t stop Iran from getting nukes, so they are about to have 2 nuclear armed enemies on their immediate borders.

Yes the India conflict is selfimposed, but they still see it as a means to keep Kashmir a possibility.

Iran on the other hand – just nuts.

Hey Obama, how’s that disarmament idea working out?

todler on May 18, 2009 at 10:07 AM

Allahpundit on May 18, 2009 at 10:06 AM

This is not peace, this is appeasement. Also see Neville Chamberlain.

Gaurav on May 18, 2009 at 10:10 AM

When it rains it pours doesn’t it.

Mr. Joe on May 18, 2009 at 10:10 AM

Exit question,maybe theres a nutjob,and this nutjob whats
to beat Dinnerjacket at freeing whats his name out of the well first!

canopfor on May 18, 2009 at 10:11 AM

I understand what you are saying AP. . . but internationally, Pakistan has NEVER admitted to fighting in Kashmir. They even deny sending arms, men, and AID to fight there. In order for us to forge a peace treaty between Pakistan and India over Kashmir, Pakistan must first ADMIT that they are fighting there.

The ‘official’ word from the government is that they do not aide or arm the rebels in Kashmir. Their ‘official’ word is that they support an ‘independent’ Kashmir with their own government. Their ‘official’ word is that while they don’t send arms or troops, they support the Kashmiris philosophically.

The Indians have spent the better part of 2 decades trying to ‘prove’ Pakistani involvement in the Kashmir region to no avail. Why? Because Pakistan doesn’t want a direct war with India. Pakistan invented the proxy war. . . the rest of the Muslim world (Iran included) is just using Pakistan’s playbook in Kashmir. Nobody in the world officially believes that the Kashmir conflict is a war between Pakistan and India.

Whereas, the Israeli/Palestinian conflict has two defined sides.

ThackerAgency on May 18, 2009 at 10:11 AM

In a sane world, the top priority would be forging a final settlement of Kashmir and lasting peace between India and Pakistan so that Islamabad could ease off the nuclear accelerator and focus properly on dealing with the Taliban

Peace between India and Pakistan should be much more feasible. If these two cultures can coexist in mini-grocercy stores in strip malls across our nation, peace in Kashmir can be obtained. When I see a Jewish\Palestian grocery store in a strip mall, I will know the Mideast is ready for peace. ;-)

WashJeff on May 18, 2009 at 10:18 AM

How’s that “smart power” working out? Going pretty well with nuclear disarmament?

mr.blacksheep on May 18, 2009 at 10:22 AM

and actually. . .the main reason that the Kashmir region is important to the two states is that it is WHERE THE DRINKING WATER TO BOTH COUNTRIES BEGINS.

If you want to control a population, control their drinking water. The head waters to major cities in both Pakistan and India originate in Kashmir. Cede the region, and you cede the whole area where their rivers run as uninhabitable. They would be more vulnerable to a terrorist attack without having any invasion of their territory at all.

This conflict and region is much more difficult and important to the people there (hundreds of millions) than the Palestinian/Israeli conflict.

Imagine us ceding our drinking water source to Al Qaeda for ‘peace’.

ThackerAgency on May 18, 2009 at 10:25 AM

Progressoverpeace at 9:41

You understand. Pakistan can get whatever it wants from Obama. Especially since Obama may want the same thing as some of the worst elements in Pakistan want.

justincase on May 18, 2009 at 10:25 AM

It’s all just a smoke screen to keep people distracted away from Nancy Pelosi.

/not funny.

bluelightbrigade on May 18, 2009 at 10:31 AM

There is nothing we can do that will stop a nuclear war from breaking out. It will happen. History will not carry on forever without a first nuclear war. Nor, for that matter, will it carry on without a first detonation over here.

keep the change on May 18, 2009 at 10:35 AM

Our government is too spine-challenged to resolve this problem. We just need to make sure that when the cockroaches come to power, they understand that the end of humanity was due to the most powerful man on earth being an idiot and an ideologue.

When you outlaw nuclear weapons, only outlaws will have nuclear weapons…think about it Obambi.

Geministorm on May 18, 2009 at 10:40 AM

We just need to make sure that when the cockroaches come to power

I, for one, welcome our new cockroach overlords.

Forget Skynet; Bugnet.

Bishop on May 18, 2009 at 10:50 AM

why focus on Israel and Palestine instead of Pakistan and India? It’s inane.

Allahpundit on May 18, 2009 at 10:06 AM

Because, for the last few decades, every man and his dog have tried to get a peace deal, and failed. Obama is focused on his legacy – and term two.

OldEnglish on May 18, 2009 at 10:53 AM

This is why Iran shouldn’t be allowed to have nukes.

WisCon on May 18, 2009 at 10:55 AM

I really hope the UN and Obama can put and end to all this hostility.

I think its high time everyone stopped bowing at the alter of Wilsonian BS and realize that neither Israel/Palestine nor India/Pakistan will be solved by negotiation. There are two elements to both of these problems that are intractable for now. The first is the lack of strategic exhaustion. Neither of these four parties believe in peace without one side or another declaring defeat first. Frankly, they have yet to really bleed each other.

The second that dovetails with the first is the religious nature of their historical hatred. Neither of two Islamic actors will ever be content with any peace no matter how beneficial it is to them.

Bottom line is that there remains a lot of bleeding and dying left to be done before there can be peace.

With the Pakistani military fragmenting look for the Indians to preempt the Pakistani nukes after a collapse with a tactical nuclear strike. Just like the Israelis will take care of the Iranians and ignore the Palestinians.

I want to know who the pollyannas are that really believe that the UN, and Obama are going to get any of these parties to set aside their strategic interests and security.

Here’s an exit question: When the Israelis attack the Iranian nuclear program and the Iranians respond with Hezbollah, Hamas, and a retaliatory missle strike of their own, what are the chances that 1) those Iranian missles are topped with biologicals and chem weapons and 2)what are the chances that Israel counterveils the Iranians with a limited nuclear strike.

elduende on May 18, 2009 at 10:56 AM

too bad Ron Paul didn’t win the Presidency. At least Obama wants to invade Pakistan…/sarc

kirkill on May 18, 2009 at 10:57 AM

I’m sure under the ‘smart power’ of the current administration, they’ll do what they’ve done so far with a ‘crisis’. Talk about it, then ignore it.

GarandFan on May 18, 2009 at 11:06 AM

This’ll all blow over eventually.

Akzed on May 18, 2009 at 9:31 AM

Ernest on May 18, 2009 at 11:09 AM

When did Pakistan start this increased production? Was it immediately after Obama won the election? And, if so, who gave them the go-ahead, and when?

OldEnglish on May 18, 2009 at 11:10 AM

When did Pakistan start this increased production? Was it immediately after Obama won the election? And, if so, who gave them the go-ahead, and when?

OldEnglish on May 18, 2009 at 11:10 AM

Well, you know, they wanted to have some spares in case they lose control of a few.

James on May 18, 2009 at 11:25 AM

The wildlife around Chernobyl is doing really well.

thuja on May 18, 2009 at 11:27 AM

This’ll all blow over up eventually.

Akzed on May 18, 2009 at 9:31 AM

Johan Klaus on May 18, 2009 at 11:44 AM

James on May 18, 2009 at 11:25 AM

So, no pre-arranged deal between Obama and Pakistan. That’s alright, then.

OldEnglish on May 18, 2009 at 11:45 AM

All these international thingies are an inconvenient distraction to The One, whose attention to them is deeply subordinate to his single-minded drive to nationalize the American economy. Like the rest of the radical left, he’s far more committed to nationalizing health, energy and education sectors, replacing free markets with centralized planning, and installing cap-and-trade taxes than keeping us safe from foreign danger. We’ll be lucky to get through this without a major catastrophe.

petefrt on May 18, 2009 at 11:52 AM

Yeah, every cloud has a silver lining.

BigD on May 18, 2009 at 9:35 AM

Are you referring to companies going back American-based customer service agents if this happens?

I’ll put it simply like I see it:
Pakistan does NOT want peace with India.
The Palestinians & all others or Arabic-Muslim persuasion do NOT want peace.
These two situations will end with the destruction of one of each party.
Nuclear or not.

Badger40 on May 18, 2009 at 11:55 AM

The Palestinians & all others or Arabic-Muslim persuasion do NOT want peace with Israel.

Badger40 on May 18, 2009 at 11:56 AM

Pakistan is playing the “ramp up for money” canard that has worked well in the UN/pacificst world. Threaten to ramp up arms – and you get a chip in the negotiation table, namely due to the rampant reports of the Taliban close to Islamabad region.

It’s leverage for $$$, ala North Korea.

Obama has shown nothing but the same inane response, filled with token cliche speahes about “world peace, love, non nuclear world” which is a wish list devoid of reality in today’s world.

Obama is at the Hold Em table and let everyone know he has a 2, 9 off suit as the betting begins. Will he go all in?

Odie1941 on May 18, 2009 at 12:12 PM

The Palestinians & all others or Arabic-Muslim persuasion do NOT want peace with Israel.

Badger40 on May 18, 2009 at 11:56 AM

You were right the first time. Muslims don’t want peace, except for peace with them enslaving everyone else. It’s their religious duty as muslims.

thuja on May 18, 2009 at 12:19 PM

thuja on May 18, 2009 at 12:19 PM

Yeah. Guess I was banking on 1st comes Saturday, then comes Sunday.

Badger40 on May 18, 2009 at 12:21 PM

And the Feds are positive all the billions given Paki is going for anti-insurgency operations.

/

Tom

marinetbryant on May 18, 2009 at 12:30 PM

So, no pre-arranged deal between Obama and Pakistan. That’s alright, then.

OldEnglish on May 18, 2009 at 11:45 AM

Perhaps you missed the allusion to the Taliban in there.

James on May 18, 2009 at 1:07 PM

elduende on May 18, 2009 at 10:56 AM

At some point someone has to realize that all this talk of peace is a damn joke.

My question is, what happens when that happens?

The Palestinians don’t want peace. They never wanted peace. They want Israel wiped off the map. When Israel as a nation and people finally realizes this, then what? What about India and Pakistan? Then what?

Scary stuff, but quite frankly, I don’t see it happening otherwise.

Chaz706 on May 18, 2009 at 5:10 PM

Three cheers for a nuclear holocaust.

Stickeehands on May 18, 2009 at 7:20 PM

Perhaps you missed the allusion to the Taliban in there.

James on May 18, 2009 at 1:07 PM

Yes, I got your hint, there, and it does seem possible that this is “planned”. What I would like to know is what does Obama know, and when did he know it?

Tin-foil hat stuff, I know, but I have a nasty feeling about this, and his attitude towards Iran.

OldEnglish on May 18, 2009 at 7:52 PM