Wow: Maureen Dowd plagiarizes lefty blogger? Update: I got it from a “friend,” says Dowd
posted at 7:45 pm on May 17, 2009 by Allahpundit
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I added the question mark to be on the safe side but there’s really no doubt about it. Josh Marshall, writing at TPM on Thursday:
More and more the timeline is raising the question of why, if the torture was to prevent terrorist attacks, it seemed to happen mainly during the period when we were looking for what was essentially political information to justify the invasion of Iraq.
And Dowd, today:
More and more the timeline is raising the question of why, if the torture was to prevent terrorist attacks, it seemed to happen mainly during the period when the Bush crowd was looking for what was essentially political information to justify the invasion of Iraq.
This makes twice in the span of four days that a major newspaper’s been caught cribbing material from nutroots blogs, which stands to reason. According to a survey of more than 200 journalists recently conducted at BYU, “despite equal awareness [of lefty and righty blogs], journalists spend more time reading posts in the liberal blogosphere.” Contain your surprise.
For example, more journalists know about Michelle Malkin than Talking Points. Yet twice as many journalists actually read Talking Points than read Michelle Malkin.
“When journalists take story ideas from blogs, those ideas naturally will come from blogs they read,” Davis said. “These reading patterns suggest journalists may be getting primarily one view of the blogosphere.”
They’re taking more than just ideas, champ. In fact, the beauty of MoDo’s snafu is that not only does it show a major player in the media being led around by nutroots talking points, it involves her lifting stuff from a blog that’s actually called “Talking Points.” Glorious. Exit question: Any predictions as to what her excuse will be? I’m guessing she’ll say she was copy/pasting material when researching the article and she hit paste in the wrong document and then forgot that she didn’t write that bit and somehow the Times’s five layers of fact-checking or whatever didn’t recognize the quote — which is surprising, really, given that they’re all probably TPM readers too. All theories welcome, though. Oh, to be a JournoList member tonight!
I posted this clip last week but a fresh viewing might be warranted under the circumstances.
Update: A site about NYT gossip claims to have obtained a statement from Dowd. It’s unspeakably lame so I’m guessing, yeah, it’s authentic.
josh is right. I didn’t read his blog last week, and didn’t have any idea he had made that point until you informed me just now.
i was talking to a friend of mine Friday about what I was writing who suggested I make this point, expressing it in a cogent — and I assumed spontaneous — way and I wanted to weave the idea into my column.
but, clearly, my friend must have read josh marshall without mentioning that to me.
we’re fixing it on the web, to give josh credit, and will include a note, as well as a formal correction tomorrow.
I.e. “I didn’t mean to rip off Josh Marshall, I meant to rip off my friend.” I’m curious as to how this exchange with her “friend” went, precisely. Presumably they were chatting casually and whoever it was read Marshall’s quote and she said, “Great point! Say that again!” and he/she repeated it … verbatim, and slowly while MoDo scribbled it down. Has that ever happened to you while making chitchat? Someone asks you to repeat a point you made and you restate it … word for word?
Update: Ah, a more reasonable possibility from the comments: When she says she was “talking” to a friend, she might mean IMing. The friend could have copy/pasted it without attribution and she thought it was an original idea. Even so, though, when I want to use something someone’s said to me in casual conversation, I always frame it as “As a friend said to me the other day” or some similar formulation. The alternative is to ask their permission to treat the idea as your own, but presumably she didn’t do that in this case or else the friend would have said where he got it from.
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Lame.
Terrye on May 17, 2009 at 8:56 PM
No, this doesn’t work.
The The NYTPicker emailed her and asked:
Dowd replied:
If she really was IMing, she would have said so in the reply. By “talking,” she meant phone call. That’s why she wrote, “i paid attention.”
Of course, it’s all BS. She plagiarized and got caught. Now it’s time for her to feel what it’s like to be on the other end of the anal probe she is used to handing out.
pearson on May 17, 2009 at 8:58 PM
I’ve never remembered anything I’ve read on a blog to the point where I could repeat it word for word.
Ms. Dowd must have a friend with a miracle marvelous memory, to put it bluntly.
unclesmrgol on May 17, 2009 at 8:59 PM
It never happened. Also, Pelosi never accused anyone of anything. Nothing happened. You’re imagining it.
JiangxiDad on May 17, 2009 at 9:02 PM
This is another version of the Pelosi Defense! I didn’t know but I maybe knew someone else knew.
PattyJ on May 17, 2009 at 9:05 PM
The adults are in charge.
Luv, getalife
Del Dolemonte on May 17, 2009 at 9:07 PM
You know it happens, if you have a thousand monkeys typing away sooner or later they compose a novel or copy something from another source!
pgrossjr on May 17, 2009 at 9:13 PM
I agree – it’s a different corporate world out there today. Things a corporation might have overlooked in the past will get heavy scrutiny today, especially if you’re high-priced talent past your prime – you just gave them something to fire you over with no repercussions.
On top of everything, how would it look if you kept her around after firing others (Blair) for the same thing? She’s toast!
PatMac on May 17, 2009 at 9:16 PM
Blue on blue, violence on violence…
I am really liking the month of May so far.
Jim Treacher on May 17, 2009 at 9:16 PM
How’s it going to look if they don’t fire her?
Like the NYT is racist.
pearson on May 17, 2009 at 9:19 PM
Wow in just a few lines, an entire career as an unethical hack is elevated to an unethical plagarist.
Ted Torgerson on May 17, 2009 at 9:20 PM
It’s long been a time-honored tradition over at the conservative site Free Republic to “liberally” illustrate every MoDo thread with Zeta Jones photos. Here’s today’s examples.
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2252916/posts
Del Dolemonte on May 17, 2009 at 9:21 PM
The Democrat Party slit its own throat with that idiotic prosecute-Bush-in-show-trial idea.
Hemorrhage.
jeff_from_mpls on May 17, 2009 at 9:25 PM
Olby does it all the time…
So long MoDo, there’s always room for you in BO’s administration.
d1carter on May 17, 2009 at 9:25 PM
Hmmm, I wonder if her “friend” knows Tommy, considering they both exist in the land of make-believe.
WisCon on May 17, 2009 at 9:26 PM
So she was thinking…
“Well, nobody who matters reads that blog anyway.”
Tony Soprano on May 17, 2009 at 9:26 PM
Another nail in the coffin of New York Times.
TN Mom on May 17, 2009 at 9:27 PM
Yep, thanks to that fevah, we now have both Pelosi and Dowd ensnared in their own lies.
pearson on May 17, 2009 at 9:30 PM
Oh please. Where would she get a friend?
Ronnie on May 17, 2009 at 9:30 PM
New York Times mislead their readers, they do it all the time.
Pelosigate
TN Mom on May 17, 2009 at 9:32 PM
Unbelievable. What a g***. Students for high-school papers have more character and integrity.
And as for the NYT, straight to the bottom of the bird cage. High-school papers uphold far higher journalistic standards.
BuckeyeSam on May 17, 2009 at 9:33 PM
MoDo previously also was “romantically involved” with NYT “Editor” Howell Raines. We all remember him.
Del Dolemonte on May 17, 2009 at 9:38 PM
Libs stealing from other Libs. Who would have thought …
http://www.teapartynation.com
tnmama on May 17, 2009 at 9:41 PM
NO! She was sleeping around with the boss? Shocking!
PatMac on May 17, 2009 at 9:42 PM
Rehtorical Question of the Day!
do any liberals have princliples?
will sass u on May 17, 2009 at 9:44 PM
Dowd, Sally Quinn, Arianna Huffington…I sense a pattern of starf***ing here.
ddrintn on May 17, 2009 at 9:51 PM
As best as I can tell, they just get lazy and arrogant and up against deadline they take the easy way out. It happened again recently here in Boston when a well known sport writer, Ron Borgess then with the Herald, cribbed stuff from a Seattle paper. I think a lot of these old timers still don’t understand how the Net has changed the game. They used to get away with it all the time in the old days and they think they still can. I’d be shocked if this is her first transgression. Right now every enemy she has ever made, along with every blogger looking for a good scope, is poring through everything she has ever written looking for other examples and I’d bet dollars to donuts it won’t be long before they find more examples. It would take a miracle to save her now.
TheBigOldDog on May 17, 2009 at 9:52 PM
Wasn’t Maureen Dowd the first (or one of the first) people to report on Biden’s plagiarism? Irony upon irony.
DarkKnight3565 on May 17, 2009 at 9:52 PM
It takes a plagiarist to catch a plagiarist. They know what to look for.
TheBigOldDog on May 17, 2009 at 9:55 PM
The Truth Commission needs to subpoena Dowd’s “friend.”
slp on May 17, 2009 at 9:55 PM
Now here’s a scary thought…the way the NYT is crashing, MoDo just might find herself working for Josh Marshall, or worse yet, Josh Marshall might end up owning the NYT!
Google “who kidnapped josh marshall” for some surprising reading enjoyment.
OxyCon on May 17, 2009 at 9:57 PM
I, Maureen Dowdy, am dumb as a stump?
Branch Rickey on May 17, 2009 at 10:06 PM
That is the most unbelievable excuse I’ve read since . . . well since Pelosi. And before her, administration spokespeople. And before them – well, let’s just say we are now down to the level where they say ANYTHING WHATSOEVER and get forgiven.
Alana on May 17, 2009 at 10:11 PM
Liar. The quote is the same, word for word, comma for comma. Far left columnist caught red handed.
Basilsbest on May 17, 2009 at 10:16 PM
…and what did the “friend” get Mo?
RobCon on May 17, 2009 at 10:20 PM
Boy, that’s an old photo.
chunderroad on May 17, 2009 at 10:20 PM
Hey, Maureen.
Even if you stole it from your friend — even if it was a gift from your friend! — YOU FAILED TO ATTRIBUTE THE IDEA TO YOUR FRIEND.
EconomicNeocon on May 17, 2009 at 10:20 PM
Not quite. Note she was very careful to substitute “the Bush crowd” for “we”. This was knowingly copied outright, no accident.
ddrintn on May 17, 2009 at 10:21 PM
Hey, Maureen.
Even if you stole it from your friend — even if it was a gift from your friend! — YOU FAILED TO ATTRIBUTE THE IDEA TO YOUR FRIEND. I suppose that means that in 2010, you might run for Senate or in 2010, you’d be a solid VP candidate in The Liar’s party.
EconomicNeocon on May 17, 2009 at 10:21 PM
Presenting the 2009 Doris Kearns Goodwin Award Winner for plagiarizing whole paragraphs without proper attribution it’s Mad Maureen from Pravda on The Hudson. Take a bow MoDo!
No! No!, no need for the palm down salute just yet, Maureen! Save that for the White House congratulatory reception afterwards!
viking01 on May 17, 2009 at 10:35 PM
Duh!
The “Friend” was Josh Marshall.
Diogenes of Sinope on May 17, 2009 at 10:40 PM
Are Maureen Dowd and getalife the same person also???
seven on May 17, 2009 at 10:41 PM
MD is a troll without a single original thought. Why are we devoting time in this blog to her unoriginal pandering. Come on Allah, get something original!!!
theRealMcCoy on May 17, 2009 at 10:46 PM
ddrintn
Quibble. Here are the two quotes,
Basilsbest on May 17, 2009 at 10:49 PM
Can you imagine Sarah Palin doing something like this?
Basilsbest on May 17, 2009 at 10:53 PM
Is plagiarism part of the Democrat platform? I mean it’s getting to be rather “common” amongst them.
katablog.com on May 17, 2009 at 11:00 PM
“Biden School of Journalism”
bloggless on May 17, 2009 at 11:01 PM
Well…yeah…I was, uh…oh, screw it.
ddrintn on May 17, 2009 at 11:02 PM
Dateline, Jerusalem.
Kid from Brooklyn on May 17, 2009 at 11:10 PM
Score another win for Bush. God bless him. He just keeps on delivering for his country.
TheBigOldDog on May 17, 2009 at 11:14 PM
Or Ann Coulter? Scandal!
sherry on May 17, 2009 at 11:17 PM
@ ddrintn on May 17, 2009 at 11:02 PM
You wuz making me laff. Good night.
Basilsbest on May 17, 2009 at 11:23 PM
You people need to wake the f up. Get over yourselves and get onto the real. Nancy needs a nap, Obama needs cap, Michelle needs a slap, wake the f up America!!!! Stop complaining and do something!!
theRealMcCoy on May 17, 2009 at 11:26 PM
MoDo will just get a Pulitzer for the article – Best Shameless Copying Job. She wil be lionized for “breaking old taboos and pushing the envelope”.
Of course, she’ll have to share the Pulitzer with 27 other lefty hacks who will write the same thing for their articles, tomorrow (though 14 of them will not have the commas and 2 will have the commas strategically relocated).
Lefties are PROUD of this sort of stuff.
progressoverpeace on May 17, 2009 at 11:27 PM
That’s easy: No.
Norwegian on May 17, 2009 at 11:27 PM
Unspeakably lame.
Jaibones on May 17, 2009 at 11:31 PM
Just another Sunday ’sfar as I’m concerned…
Emily M. on May 17, 2009 at 11:36 PM
I’m so f ing tired of hearing you whine! As a patriot, I feel obligated to say that I would be happy to see out POTUS kicked to the curb. No One has the balls to say that what he is doing is destroying America. Are you not listening to what he is doing???? Are you happy with the stimulus for all the people that DONT pay taxes, that are ILLEGAL, that SUCK out dollars! Jesus Christ, are you f’ing stupid? Why is this man still in power?
theRealMcCoy on May 17, 2009 at 11:37 PM
She’ll be on Charlie Rose explaining how the zeitgeist of Bush derangement syndrome and collective consciousness crisscrossed in an aneurism bleb in her stupid empty head.
Western_Civ on May 17, 2009 at 11:40 PM
I just wanna stare into those depressed eyes… on my.
Friendly21 on May 17, 2009 at 11:42 PM
Another reason to not bail out the NYT.
Upstater85 on May 17, 2009 at 11:50 PM
a most scrumptious turn of events
Metro on May 17, 2009 at 11:51 PM
Yeah, fire her for stealing work from a friend. Copyright is held by the creator, so it doesn’t matter if the newspaper’s work was contaminated from a blog or a friend, she put the newspaper in the position of trying to put their copyright on stuff which was copyrighted by someone else.
HotWeaver on May 17, 2009 at 11:51 PM
Yeah right! And how many other “friendly” columns have you written in the past Maureen?
RMR on May 17, 2009 at 11:53 PM
That’s how you get chlamydia. That’s not how you get a column.
notropis on May 18, 2009 at 12:02 AM
Caught in the act!
Mr. Joe on May 18, 2009 at 12:02 AM
So, who’s going to play MoDo in the movie version of her plagiarism, “Shattered Crass”? I’ll bet they get Angelina Jolie.
progressoverpeace on May 18, 2009 at 12:08 AM
dthorny on May 18, 2009 at 12:16 AM
Thanks. I needed that…
unclesmrgol on May 18, 2009 at 12:32 AM
Fishlips Dowd is now officially qualified to be Vice President…Just Like Joe the Plagiarist.
BillaryMcBush on May 18, 2009 at 12:46 AM
Bah, change the name to The New York Talking Points. That’s typically all they are anyway…
juanito on May 18, 2009 at 12:47 AM
Actually, she’s qualified to be Precedent. Remember that cute little bit of the idiot messiah quietly channeling Deval Patrick …
progressoverpeace on May 18, 2009 at 12:50 AM
Liberals can’t plagiarize from each other. They all say the same crap day in and day out. Sooner or later they run out of different words and phrases to use. It would save us all a lot of time to just assign code numbers to all of their BS.
867B means Pelosi was lied to by the CIA.
424E means Bush lied.
386A means Limbaugh is a fat blowhard.
176B means Obama inherited all this stuff.
554A means waterboarding is torture.
993X means global warming is man-made.
…….. it would just save us a lot of time. Even on HA.
JeffinOrlando on May 18, 2009 at 1:10 AM
Even if she used the material from her friend it is still plagiarism. Unattributed material presented as original by the writer earns that writer the “Scarlet P.” Since this is not her first offense she automatically fails the class. She should also be placed on academic probation. I thought these intellectuals knew how to do citations or don’t they teach that “journalism” school.
Incidentally isn’t it about time we start calling her and people liker her a “journalist.” Unless the quotes are added people could be mislead. Honestly, if someone read your post and saw you calling Dowd a journalist they would get the impression that she is interested in reporting the facts.
Dowd is an opinion writer at the very least if not a member of the leftist agitprop. Continuing to pretend that she is anything but that is incorrect. If you feel she is a journalist Allah then I respectfully disagree.
Mormon Doc on May 18, 2009 at 1:52 AM
+1 I’m in favor of the new system!
Alpha and Omega means Obama (It makes me sick even typing that in jest.)
Mormon Doc on May 18, 2009 at 1:56 AM
from the NYTPICKER:
..
So stealing the words from a friend isn’t plagiarism? If her friend said it, why isn’t the friend mentioned in her column? I never realized that it’s not plagiarism if you know the person.
.
If Dowd didn’t come up with the sentence herself, who did is irrelevant.
Fred 2 on May 18, 2009 at 2:17 AM
Update: Ah, a more reasonable possibility from the
comments: When she says she was “talking” to a friend,
she might mean IMing.
Who is I. Ming? Are you suggesting that this is a Chicom plot?
Ordinary American on May 18, 2009 at 3:00 AM
And this, my children, is why the Bible forbids incest
entagor on May 18, 2009 at 3:15 AM
Strange how you never see Mo Dowd or Joe Biden in the same place at the same time…
elifino on May 18, 2009 at 3:20 AM
Maureen Dowed
Golly! Even more bizarre!
While looking for political information to justify the invasion of Iraq.
Under the guises of prevent terrorist attacks and they found out about was this terrorist plot to attack the Brooklyn Bridge, the Statue of Liberty and other U.S. landmarks.
Just when I thought Bush couldn’t be more incompetent we finds out he couldn’t even get fake excuse right!
He goes after Terrorist to find out info about terrorist (wink wink, we all KNOW he was REALLY trying to gin up excuses to invade Iraq!) and the dang fool finds out about planed terrorist attacks just like his phony cover story!
DSchoen on May 18, 2009 at 5:42 AM
Reminds me of when my Mom found my weed.
ronsfi on May 18, 2009 at 6:10 AM
Maureen says she got it from a friend? Then how was it published by Maureen verbatim from the words of the left wing blogger?
Liberal = Liar.
Phil Byler on May 18, 2009 at 7:27 AM
Who still takes this troll Dowd seriously anyway.
petefrt on May 18, 2009 at 7:28 AM
What did you expect, the media has to figure out how to paper over Pelosi’s lies … It’s tough, you know, when the lies of Pelosi are so baldfaced. Cut them some slack.
Besides, the commercials on ethics and defense that can be made using Pelosi, priceless.
tarpon on May 18, 2009 at 7:31 AM
Wondering if many ‘regular’(non-politically obsessed)folk even know or care about this? Going to do a mini-canvass this AM amongst my elderly compatriots and see. If they do know, I’ll bet they don’t give a rap.
jeanie on May 18, 2009 at 8:20 AM
Good morning, AP. So good to be here.
bluelightbrigade on May 18, 2009 at 8:21 AM
So they’re dumb and lazy…
bluelightbrigade on May 18, 2009 at 8:23 AM
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