Wow: Maureen Dowd plagiarizes lefty blogger? Update: I got it from a “friend,” says Dowd

posted at 7:45 pm on May 17, 2009 by Allahpundit

I added the question mark to be on the safe side but there’s really no doubt about it. Josh Marshall, writing at TPM on Thursday:

More and more the timeline is raising the question of why, if the torture was to prevent terrorist attacks, it seemed to happen mainly during the period when we were looking for what was essentially political information to justify the invasion of Iraq.

And Dowd, today:

More and more the timeline is raising the question of why, if the torture was to prevent terrorist attacks, it seemed to happen mainly during the period when the Bush crowd was looking for what was essentially political information to justify the invasion of Iraq.

This makes twice in the span of four days that a major newspaper’s been caught cribbing material from nutroots blogs, which stands to reason. According to a survey of more than 200 journalists recently conducted at BYU, “despite equal awareness [of lefty and righty blogs], journalists spend more time reading posts in the liberal blogosphere.” Contain your surprise.

For example, more journalists know about Michelle Malkin than Talking Points. Yet twice as many journalists actually read Talking Points than read Michelle Malkin.

“When journalists take story ideas from blogs, those ideas naturally will come from blogs they read,” Davis said. “These reading patterns suggest journalists may be getting primarily one view of the blogosphere.”

They’re taking more than just ideas, champ. In fact, the beauty of MoDo’s snafu is that not only does it show a major player in the media being led around by nutroots talking points, it involves her lifting stuff from a blog that’s actually called “Talking Points.” Glorious. Exit question: Any predictions as to what her excuse will be? I’m guessing she’ll say she was copy/pasting material when researching the article and she hit paste in the wrong document and then forgot that she didn’t write that bit and somehow the Times’s five layers of fact-checking or whatever didn’t recognize the quote — which is surprising, really, given that they’re all probably TPM readers too. All theories welcome, though. Oh, to be a JournoList member tonight!

I posted this clip last week but a fresh viewing might be warranted under the circumstances.

Update: A site about NYT gossip claims to have obtained a statement from Dowd. It’s unspeakably lame so I’m guessing, yeah, it’s authentic.

josh is right. I didn’t read his blog last week, and didn’t have any idea he had made that point until you informed me just now.
i was talking to a friend of mine Friday about what I was writing who suggested I make this point, expressing it in a cogent — and I assumed spontaneous — way and I wanted to weave the idea into my column.
but, clearly, my friend must have read josh marshall without mentioning that to me.
we’re fixing it on the web, to give josh credit, and will include a note, as well as a formal correction tomorrow.

I.e. “I didn’t mean to rip off Josh Marshall, I meant to rip off my friend.” I’m curious as to how this exchange with her “friend” went, precisely. Presumably they were chatting casually and whoever it was read Marshall’s quote and she said, “Great point! Say that again!” and he/she repeated it … verbatim, and slowly while MoDo scribbled it down. Has that ever happened to you while making chitchat? Someone asks you to repeat a point you made and you restate it … word for word?

Update: Ah, a more reasonable possibility from the comments: When she says she was “talking” to a friend, she might mean IMing. The friend could have copy/pasted it without attribution and she thought it was an original idea. Even so, though, when I want to use something someone’s said to me in casual conversation, I always frame it as “As a friend said to me the other day” or some similar formulation. The alternative is to ask their permission to treat the idea as your own, but presumably she didn’t do that in this case or else the friend would have said where he got it from.

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Well be fair it is hard for someone with no brain to keep from being confused.

William Amos on May 17, 2009 at 7:47 PM

Nope – no cut and paste excuse will work here, because of the isolated and selective edit that was made to an otherwise verbatim lift of someone else’s material.

“when we were” to “when the Bush administration was” didn’t accidentally get changed.

Midas on May 17, 2009 at 7:49 PM

MoDo is so stupid that she plagiarizes a lie, which makes it all the easier to prove that she is guilty.

corona on May 17, 2009 at 7:49 PM

Mo Dowd apparently subscribes to the Mike Barnicle school of journalistic ethics. But we probably already knew that.

BrianBoru on May 17, 2009 at 7:50 PM

HACK!

Now it has been confirmed.

JAM on May 17, 2009 at 7:51 PM

YOU’RE A LOOSAH

blatantblue on May 17, 2009 at 7:51 PM

how could any body think a liberal would lie ,why next thing you know they say ted kenndy is a drunk

wade underhile on May 17, 2009 at 7:52 PM

Vice Presidential

PrezHussein on May 17, 2009 at 7:52 PM

This what I think about it: The beauty of MoDo’s snafu is that not only does it show a major player in the media being led around by nutroots talking points, it involves her lifting stuff from a blog that’s actually called “Talking Points.”

Er, wair Allahpundit already said. Oops!

terryannonline on May 17, 2009 at 7:52 PM

Exit question: Any predictions as to what her excuse will be?

She was running late for an abortion………..

Seven Percent Solution on May 17, 2009 at 7:52 PM

The Reality-Based Echo Chamber.

Officially licensed by the Democrat Party and brought to yuo by George Soros.

Greg Toombs on May 17, 2009 at 7:52 PM

Her excuse is seriously f’ing lame.

josh is right. I didn’t read his blog last week, and didn’t have any idea he had made that point until you informed me just now.

i was talking to a friend of mine Friday about what I was writing who suggested I make this point, expressing it in a cogent — and I assumed spontaneous — way and I wanted to weave the idea into my column.

but, clearly, my friend must have read josh marshall without mentioning that to me.
we’re fixing it on the web, to give josh credit, and will include a note, as well as a formal correction tomorrow.

SnarkVader on May 17, 2009 at 7:53 PM

I’m guessing she’ll say she was copy/pasting material when researching the article and she hit paste in the wrong document and then forgot that she didn’t write that bit and somehow the Times’s five layers of fact-checking or whatever didn’t recognize the quote — which is surprising, really, given that they’re all probably TPM readers too.

The Doris Kearns Goodwin excuse. Forgot what was notes and what was quotes.

Wethal on May 17, 2009 at 7:53 PM

Allah,

I’m not sure how to link here at Hot Air, but MoDo has admitted to it and given her excuse in an email to http://www.nytpick.com/2009/05/dowd-admits-plagiarism-to-nytpicker.html

Sue on May 17, 2009 at 7:53 PM

Could someone please explain to me why I can see what a bunch of partisan, talentless hacks people like Dowd are, but 50% of the country (and apparently the Pulitzer committee) look at the same body of work and see genius? I’m serious. I’m no astrophysicist, but I know a complete idiot when I see one: Maureen Dowd, Olbermann, Chrissy Matthews, Sanchez from CNN, the entire staffs of Time and Newsweek, every editor from the New York Times I’ve ever seen interviewed. These people are total morons. Do the folks who are always telling us how smart those people are really, really believe that, or are do they just mean “reliable democrat” when they say “smart”?

Rational Thought on May 17, 2009 at 7:54 PM

Allowing me to plagiarize Mark Steyn by calling MoDo an “elderly schoolgirl” who writes like she is “auditioning for a walk-on role in Sex in the City”.

RobCon on May 17, 2009 at 7:54 PM

She was running late for an abortion………..

Seven Percent Solution on May 17, 2009 at 7:52 PM

Leave her alone . It is rare you know.

Jamson64 on May 17, 2009 at 7:54 PM

Nevermind, SnarkVader beat me to it.

Sue on May 17, 2009 at 7:54 PM

change the topic from Pelosi, that is what they are trying to do.

rob verdi on May 17, 2009 at 7:54 PM

Exit question: Any predictions as to what her excuse will be?

Its Boosh’s Fault.

William Amos on May 17, 2009 at 7:55 PM

Maybe she’s just trying to get in good with the current administration by following the past actions of the Vice President?

NCJeff on May 17, 2009 at 7:55 PM

That is a great excuse. Someone should submit it to those online term paper webistes so that they can give it out to their customers.

myrenovations on May 17, 2009 at 7:56 PM

The reason they read more lefty blogs is that they’re more organized and better done… the right blogosphere is a disorganized… and to the untrained eye its all cess…

ninjapirate on May 17, 2009 at 7:56 PM

i was talking to a friend of mine Friday about what I was writing who suggested I make this point, expressing it in a cogent — and I assumed spontaneous — way and I wanted to weave the idea into my column.

Cogent = “I have such an amazing brain, as does my friend, that s/he recited the paragraph to me verbatim, and I remembered it and wrote it verbatim.”

Wench.

cannonball on May 17, 2009 at 7:57 PM

Memes are competitive, and your memes sukk.
No one wants to plagiarize them.
;)

strangelet on May 17, 2009 at 7:59 PM

Who does she think she is Mike Barnicle?

TheBigOldDog on May 17, 2009 at 7:59 PM

LOL! Maureen Plagiarizer Dowd!!

pearson on May 17, 2009 at 7:59 PM

Not plagarism.

Maureen and the idiot blogger are the same person.

When blogging she disguises some of her characteristic purple prose (i.e., “the Bush crowd”.

notagool on May 17, 2009 at 8:00 PM

WWJBD?

ExUrbanKevin on May 17, 2009 at 8:01 PM

For example, more journalists know about Michelle Malkin than Talking Points. Yet twice as many journalists actually read Talking Points than read Michelle Malkin.

What? How can anyone claim that? Wasnt TPM the site that broke the Attorney-Scandal?

A Axe on May 17, 2009 at 8:01 PM

I think you are waiting for Ed to comment on this story Allah.

No Hotair.com the NY Times didnt prevent a story on ACORN for political reasons

But its not like the NY Times has a credibility problem or not.

William Amos on May 17, 2009 at 8:02 PM

This is nothing new for the NY Times. Hell, they have been shown to make up stories out of thin air.

As I recall (more than once) they compromised the security of U.S. citizens and soldiers by printing a story they were begged not to print.

Dowd hates President Bush so much that she probably read they lefty blog post and began salivating how she could blame Bush for something.

At that point she forgot she lifted the material.

FireBlogger on May 17, 2009 at 8:03 PM

Exit question: Any predictions as to what her excuse will be?

Has anybody mentioned that it was Bush’s fault, yet?

FloatingRock on May 17, 2009 at 8:04 PM

Exit question: Any predictions as to what her excuse will be?

Has anybody mentioned that it was Bush’s fault, yet?

FloatingRock on May 17, 2009 at 8:04 PM

Exit question: Any predictions as to what her excuse will be?

Has anybody mentioned that it was Bush’s fault, yet?

FloatingRock on May 17, 2009 at 8:05 PM

coopting

I do not think that word means what you think it does.
(Still, great video.)

Tzetzes on May 17, 2009 at 8:05 PM

This lady has a lot of chutzpah for being such a liar.

blatantblue on May 17, 2009 at 8:06 PM

Not plagarism.

Maureen and the idiot blogger are the same person.

Interesting. Dowd is either a plagiarist or has a sock puppet. Either way, she is being dishonest. Someone should look more closely at the blog to see if there are other examples of “coincidence.”

pearson on May 17, 2009 at 8:06 PM

Value to righty blogs? Priceless. Fallout for MoDo? Zero.

flipflop on May 17, 2009 at 8:07 PM

Next thing you know, MoDo will be ripping off Jayson Blair.

That being said, I’d still hit it. But then again, I’m a sucker for redheads.

JohnGalt23 on May 17, 2009 at 8:07 PM

ah the “unnamed friend” defense, almost as good as A-Rods unnamed cousin who gave him roids

commodore on May 17, 2009 at 8:08 PM

Allahpundit,

I’m waiting for David Brooks to plagiarize you.

terryannonline on May 17, 2009 at 8:08 PM

abortion? isn’t she past menopause?

billypaintbrush on May 17, 2009 at 8:09 PM

I blame the bourbon.

JammieWearingFool on May 17, 2009 at 8:09 PM

Half the time I “talk” to my wife it’s through google talk. And she can be in the same room. Yeah, pathetic, but what can you do?

She probably did lift the paragraph though. I don’t know why one needs to hide it. Cite the source and move on. I read Hot Air, and it’s not mostly for the bloggers’ opinions, although those are sometimes valuable too.

It just takes an effort to compile everything that exists on the topic in one place, and I’m genuinely grateful that somebody’s doing it. Of course, Dowd probably wants to come across as a deep thinker. In which case we clearly have a problem.

radiofreevillage on May 17, 2009 at 8:10 PM

Anybody think the Boston Globe Unions are going to stand for the parent company continuing to pay a high-priced, unethical-to-the-core plagiarist while they are being asked to sacrifice massively to keep the presses running? Buh-bye MoDouche.

TheBigOldDog on May 17, 2009 at 8:10 PM

strangelet on May 17, 2009 at 7:59 PM

http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2009/05/090515-zombie-ants-flies.html

Del Dolemonte on May 17, 2009 at 8:11 PM

How sleazy. She had to juice it up by inserting “Bush crowd”

She has no choice but to deny and justify herself.

It is cheating , short cuts and sloppy work that devalues the times.

seven on May 17, 2009 at 8:11 PM

I blame the bourbon.

JammieWearingFool on May 17, 2009 at 8:09 PM

I blame all the television watching apparently Dowd does.

terryannonline on May 17, 2009 at 8:11 PM

She’ll get the Doris Kearns Goodwin kid gloves treatment on this little bit of plagerism, in that the Powers That Be will give her a good “tisk tisking” and maybe send her to the corner for a time-out, but it’s not going to affect her position at The Times.

(MoDo probably would have been in far more trouble if she had done this 12 months ago, when the lines were still really divided between the Clinton and Obama camps, and each side would hype the transgressions by one of their supporters to gain advantage. Marshall can yell and scream here, but with the Democrats in complete control in D.C., even if there are still ideological differences, tearing down Dowd and The Times doesn’t aid one side or the other, and the those in power really don’t have to kowtow to the liberal blogs right now the way they did to stir up the anger like when Bush was in office.)

jon1979 on May 17, 2009 at 8:11 PM

Edwards. Pelosi. Dowd. Notice a trend?

pearson on May 17, 2009 at 8:14 PM

I think I am loving this way too much. NYtpickers, the people who broke the story are loving this and Twittering it.

FireBlogger on May 17, 2009 at 8:15 PM

Value to righty blogs? Priceless. Fallout for MoDo? Zero.

flipflop on May 17, 2009 at 8:07 PM

Barnicle was fired from the Boston Globe, a NYT paper, for exactly the same offense. She’s done. If she isn’t then things will get real interesting.

TheBigOldDog on May 17, 2009 at 8:15 PM

Of course, Dowd probably wants to come across as a deep thinker. In which case we clearly have a problem.

radiofreevillage on May 17, 2009 at 8:10 PM

Wow, we can agree on something.

Catherine Zita Jones and Michael Douglas could not be reached for comment. When Douglas ditched MoDo in favour of C Z J, Mo simply lost her mind.

Del Dolemonte on May 17, 2009 at 8:15 PM

NYT Maureen Dowd Kicked Off McCain’s Campaign Plane: He’s ‘Dismissive of 1st Amendment’

MODO – The champion of journalistic ethics.

diogenes on May 17, 2009 at 8:15 PM

Why is anyone spending time reading Maureen Dowd? She writes for the New York Times. She is a lefty who is not honest, not intelligent, not enjoyable.

Phil Byler on May 17, 2009 at 8:16 PM

I got it from a “friend,” says Dowd

Herpes?

Greg Toombs on May 17, 2009 at 8:16 PM

I blame the bourbon.

JammieWearingFool on May 17, 2009 at 8:09 PM

I think that was the “friend” she mentioned because I don’t think she has any sentient ones.

Captain Hate on May 17, 2009 at 8:16 PM

Edwards. Pelosi. Dowd. Notice a trend?

pearson on May 17, 2009 at 8:14 PM

All have the same huge hair?

Del Dolemonte on May 17, 2009 at 8:17 PM

When Douglas ditched MoDo in favour of C Z J…

Del Dolemonte on May 17, 2009 at 8:15 PM

Really? Absolutely no contest.

Greg Toombs on May 17, 2009 at 8:17 PM

The huge hair hides the deceptive brains

pearson on May 17, 2009 at 8:18 PM

Want more hilarity? After reading MoDo’s steaming heap, click on and try and digest her newspaper’s Drama Critic, Frankie Rich, who lovingly goes after the evil Bush people for something like the 19th Sunday in a row.

She can’t give him up.

Del Dolemonte on May 17, 2009 at 8:19 PM

Edwards. Pelosi. Dowd. Notice a trend?

pearson on May 17, 2009 at 8:14 PM

Same lipstick?

KelliD on May 17, 2009 at 8:20 PM

She can’t give him up.

It’s called ‘mental disease.’

pearson on May 17, 2009 at 8:20 PM

People right now are poring over everything she has ever written. How long before they find more examples? 48 hours max?

TheBigOldDog on May 17, 2009 at 8:21 PM

intellectual inbreeding.
when they accuse Limbaugh listeners of being “mind numbed robots,” it’s a case of projection

dts-01 on May 17, 2009 at 8:21 PM

Really? Absolutely no contest.

Greg Toombs on May 17, 2009 at 8:17 PM

Yes, Micahel Douglas was actually dating MoDo but ditched her-apparently he got offended when she dared to be critical of Bill Clinton’s adultery with a workplace subordinate.

I will give her credit for that much.

Del Dolemonte on May 17, 2009 at 8:22 PM

EXCLUSIVE: Dowd denies friend dictated to her. “We were going back And forth,” Dowd says. “[I] wanted to weave it in.” http://bit.ly/VhGVI

TheBigOldDog on May 17, 2009 at 8:23 PM

Edwards. Pelosi. Dowd. Notice a trend?

pearson on May 17, 2009 at 8:14 PM

hermaphrodites?

diogenes on May 17, 2009 at 8:24 PM

Yes, Micahel Douglas was actually dating MoDo but ditched her-apparently he got offended when she dared to be critical of Bill Clinton’s adultery with a workplace subordinate.

And she hasn’t been sober since.

pearson on May 17, 2009 at 8:24 PM

She’ll get the Doris Kearns Goodwin kid gloves treatment on this little bit of plagerism, in that the Powers That Be will give her a good “tisk tisking” and maybe send her to the corner for a time-out, but it’s not going to affect her position at The Times.

jon1979 on May 17, 2009 at 8:11 PM

Goodwin should stick to writing about baseball, which she does brilliantly.

As for MoDo and the NYT, she’ll never be fired.

Del Dolemonte on May 17, 2009 at 8:27 PM

EXCLUSIVE: Dowd denies friend dictated to her. “We were going back And forth,” Dowd says. “[I] wanted to weave it in.” http://bit.ly/VhGVI

From Wiki:

Plagiarism, as defined in the 1995 Random House Compact Unabridged Dictionary, is the “use or close imitation of the language and thoughts of another author and the representation of them as one’s own original work.”[1]

Dowd is a plagiarizer.

pearson on May 17, 2009 at 8:27 PM

Edwards. Pelosi. Dowd. Notice a trend?

pearson on May 17, 2009 at 8:14 PM

Sexual icons of their own genders?

Captain Hate on May 17, 2009 at 8:27 PM

MoDo a hack? The dickens you say!

Honestly she’s been cribbing Heathers for decades now.

tlclark on May 17, 2009 at 8:29 PM

The online version of the article now attributes the quote to John Marshall.

terryannonline on May 17, 2009 at 8:32 PM

I’m more than foggy on MoDo’s definition of “ripping off” others. Either way — whoever the target — ripping off copy without attribution is still ripping off copy without attribution.

Another Dan Rather moment that should last the rest of her life.

Lourdes on May 17, 2009 at 8:35 PM

More and more the timeline is raising the question of why, if the torture was to prevent terrorist attacks, it seemed to happen mainly during the period when we were looking for what was essentially political information to justify the invasion of Iraq.

That is the dumbest thing I’ve heard from a lefty in about 3 days!

Bicyea on May 17, 2009 at 8:37 PM

Maureen, the idiot blogger AND Nancy Pelosi are the same person.

Daggett on May 17, 2009 at 8:37 PM

Dowd is a plagiarizer.

A timely refresher on who Joe Biden is. Who is also an idiot but that’s another story.

Biden was booted out of college for plagiary.

And yet he ended up in the U.S. Senate (for a career there) and now in the Executive Branch. It’s a nightmare to any of us who has ever gotten through school by doing things the hard way, which is by ourselves.

Lourdes on May 17, 2009 at 8:38 PM

Insularity, thy name is MSM.

profitsbeard on May 17, 2009 at 8:38 PM

Ah, a more reasonable possibility from the comments: When she says she was “talking” to a friend, she might mean IMing. The friend could have copy/pasted it without attribution and she thought it was an original idea.

So she plagiarized it from a plagiarizing friend.

pearson on May 17, 2009 at 8:38 PM

MoDo a hack? The dickens you say!

Honestly she’s been cribbing Heathers for decades now.

tlclark on May 17, 2009 at 8:29 PM

LOL!

Re: Mike Barnicle. He wasn’t fired solely for plagiarism. The tipping point for his firing was his fabrication of a column about a two kids with cancer.

It’ll be very interesting to see how MSNBC handles this story. Morning Joe especially.

SnarkVader on May 17, 2009 at 8:39 PM

Controversial, notorious columnist accused of plagarizing, anonymous “friend”, newspaper on the verge of bankruptcy, unions, bloggers.

Six weeks from now, it will all be unraveled on an upcoming episode of Law and Order. This stuff just gets handed to them.

sherry on May 17, 2009 at 8:39 PM

Related:

Joe Biden’s Plagiarism Problem

Lourdes on May 17, 2009 at 8:39 PM

Oh for cryin’ out loud. Let me try that again.

MoDo a hack? The dickens you say!

Honestly she’s been cribbing Heathers for decades now.

tlclark on May 17, 2009 at 8:29 PM

LOL!

Re: Mike Barnicle. He wasn’t fired solely for plagiarism. The tipping point for his firing was his fabrication of a column about a two kids with cancer.

It’ll be very interesting to see how MSNBC handles this story. Morning Joe especially.

SnarkVader on May 17, 2009 at 8:40 PM

liberals are running on empty and that’s just above their neck line.

suzyk on May 17, 2009 at 8:40 PM

Controversial, notorious columnist accused of plagarizing, anonymous “friend”, newspaper on the verge of bankruptcy, unions, bloggers.

Six weeks from now, it will all be unraveled on an upcoming episode of Law and Order. This stuff just gets handed to them.

sherry on May 17, 2009 at 8:39 PM

And David Geffen wants to buy all that! Wow. Downer. About Geffen.

Lourdes on May 17, 2009 at 8:41 PM

Gee if I came Maureen’s friend maybe she will finally print “I am a mindless slut” in one of her columns without the parentheses of course.

Jdripper on May 17, 2009 at 8:42 PM

It’s bad enough for Dowdy to plagiarize, but she chooses to plagiarize a baseless accusation.

Yeah. Stay classy NY Times.

“All the News That’s Fit to Print.”

cruadin on May 17, 2009 at 8:42 PM

Edwards. Pelosi. Dowd. Notice a trend?

pearson on May 17, 2009 at 8:14 PM
Same lipstick?

KelliD on May 17, 2009 at 8:20 PM

funny!

Red State State of Mind on May 17, 2009 at 8:43 PM

And David Geffen wants to buy all that! Wow. Downer. About Geffen.

Lourdes on May 17, 2009 at 8:41 PM

Talk about a match made in heaven…

ElectricPhase on May 17, 2009 at 8:44 PM

What a wonderful life, to be a journalist.
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In your youth, read a litle Karl Marx.
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Then spend your days bashing capitalism.
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Having never spent one day of your life actually making anything. Like a chair or a table or a toothpic.
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Just endless quantities of hotair.

esblowfeld on May 17, 2009 at 8:47 PM

So there are 2 of these broads running around?

Chuck Schick on May 17, 2009 at 8:47 PM

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