Palin hits Notre Dame for recognizing Obama
posted at 12:08 pm on May 17, 2009 by Allahpundit
Via Gateway Pundit, the ‘Cuda braves the polls showing most Catholics approve of the invitation — to a greater extent than the public at large, in fact — and swings away:
Gov. Sarah Palin of Alaska, a strong pro-life advocate, weighed in on the issue with me by e-mail:
“My favorite grandpa, Clem James Sheeran, was Catholic. Irish to the core, his favorite place (other than church) was Notre Dame. I can’t imagine what he would think as the university recognizes someone who contradicts the core values of the Catholic faith by promoting an anti-life agenda. As we learned today, our nation is more pro-life than ever before; it is a very important time to strengthen the message that every baby is created for good purpose and has the potential to make this world a better place.”
While Palin understands this battle is about a fundamental value, Obama supporters trivialize it by suggesting it is about opening a dialogue with people of opposing views. Despite their belittling, this outrage is well deserved. By bestowing the degree on President Pro-Choice, a message is conveyed that he is a role model, someone deserving of recognition in the eyes of the university. Jenkins even said he is an inspiring leader.
Steele also gave thumbs down to the honorary degree this morning on Meet the Press. I’m tickled at what a mess this has turned into for The One: He doesn’t want his position on abortion coming under a media microscope and eroding his advantage among Catholics, but of course he couldn’t turn down the invite lest it look like he was snubbing the Church. The best outcome for him probably would have been Notre Dame pulling the plug weeks ago before the protests picked up steam and the press started paying attention. On the other hand, given the heat he’s taking from the left on counterterror policy, among other issues, reminding progressives he’s a fellow traveler by pissing off pro-lifers isn’t the worst thing he could be doing right now. And considering how high his approval rating is among Catholics, the backlash to this would have to blow up quite a bit further before it does him any real damage.
The speech is set for this afternoon; he will indeed touch on abortion, doubtless in the context of “dialogue” and “understanding,” so we’re bound to have some sort of video tonight. From what I can tell, the only prominent Catholic who doesn’t have an opinion on this one way or the other is, er, the Pope, displaying the sort of squishiness he’s known for when it comes to balancing Church dogma with good relations with liberal Catholic politicians and their constituents. Way to take a stand. I’m going to poll you guys on this, not because there’s much doubt where you’ll come out but because it’s useful to remember there are two distinct issues here: One is simply inviting Obama to speak, the other is awarding him an honorary degree. According to the conference of U.S. bishops, those who defy the Church’s fundamental moral beliefs “should not be given awards, honors or platforms which would suggest support for their actions.” Where does this shake out?
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No, Deanna…she did change.
I should be honest and say that the end of this story is rather interesting. She’s living “in sin,” while trying to get annulments and all that other junk that goes with being Catholic.
I chuckled at that choice. But she’s very sweet, sincere, and definitely loves the Catholic church.
I’ve always enjoyed my Catholic friends. None of the march lock-step, in spite of the stereotype.
AnninCA on May 17, 2009 at 1:34 PM
Good on Sarah. She is in the good fight. Sarah is the only Republican(or anyone else) that is standing up for Life. I am beginning to see a theme. Soon she will be talking about Liberty and the Pursuit of Happiness. Then the Constitution. That’s all she has to do for the next 4 years. Tell them what it means to be an American. We sure don’t have it now. The contrast will be great and people will begin to see how far our country has strayed from it’s founding. Go Sarah!!
BetseyRoss on May 17, 2009 at 1:34 PM
but I thought she was supposed to go home and do her job as governor?
which one is it?
joey24007 on May 17, 2009 at 1:35 PM
Dark…..it won’t work! (The quote button, that is.)
*arrgghhhh*
AnninCA on May 17, 2009 at 1:36 PM
Ummmm, so you think she shouldn’t have answered the journalist’s question? That is all she did, answered a question.
deidre on May 17, 2009 at 1:37 PM
Thank you knucklehead. That was my point. I just would have steered her differently, that’s all.
Sarah is Sarah. She’s an interesting woman, entitled to her own beliefs.
I think she’d make a terrific senator for Alaska eventually.
AnninCA on May 17, 2009 at 1:38 PM
Even as an agnostic, for what it’s worth, I think the Pope should be ashamed of himself for declining to defend his Church on the Notre Dame issue.
I might understand inviting him to the university to speak. But the honorary degree? No way! So serious a misjudgment calls for the university to find a new president.
petefrt on May 17, 2009 at 1:39 PM
It is offensive to Catholic faith and teaching. The offense is by Notre Dame.
Loxodonta on May 17, 2009 at 1:39 PM
TimeTraveler on May 17, 2009 at 1:39 PM
Do you even read what you write?
ThereGoesTheNeighborhood on May 17, 2009 at 1:39 PM
Anyone claiming to be suprised as to Palin’s stance on this issue hasn’t been paying attention. Nothing in her statement is at odds with previous positions. I thought her comment was reasonable for someone who is never denied being against abortion.
katiejane on May 17, 2009 at 1:39 PM
Heck, I could sidestep that question, deidre, by simply focusing on suggesting that universities are autonomous and should be allowed to work through their own processes and deal with their own private doners.
That’s a perfect conservative response.
And I’m no politician, obviously. LOL*
So if she can’t do the dance with the media, then she’s maybe not ready for primetime.
AnninCA on May 17, 2009 at 1:40 PM
I suppose that’s because the base itself does not have average intelligence. Take most of the people below average intelligence, add some manipulative elites and you’ve got yourself a Democratic majority.
DarkCurrent on May 17, 2009 at 1:40 PM
Most folks can agree on the fact that liberalism appeals to the unintelligent.
TimeTraveler on May 17, 2009 at 1:41 PM
Projection.
ddrintn on May 17, 2009 at 1:42 PM
Pick another issue. Pelosi is stringing herself up all by herself. Although, as the governor of the most western state, she receives intelligence briefings about missile defense, she really has no business chiming in on the torture debate–at least not now. She has, however, appropriately criticized Obama for gutting missile defense as North Korea is lighting up the skies.
You may have a point when it comes to energy. I wish she were beating Washington over the head about its energy policy. But as the mother of a Down syndrome kid and the grandmother to her daughter’s child, I think she has a unique perspective on the abortion debate.
BuckeyeSam on May 17, 2009 at 1:42 PM
Yep. The one-eyed man in a world of the blind. Dems, to a tee.
progressoverpeace on May 17, 2009 at 1:43 PM
No, Katie..it was significant because it’s not related at all to Alaskan interests.
When your first moves are what hers have been? Go to a pro-life conference, send Bristol out on an abstenence tour, and now comment on a situation that nobody else wants to touch, stirring up the abortion issue? I think it’s clear.
She’s chosen this as her platform.
AnninCA on May 17, 2009 at 1:44 PM
Got that backwards: Nowhere to go but down. Where this does him “no real damage” is among committed pro-lifers. Among the squishes, his current approval means they’re his to lose. The natural tendency, to the extent the issue is foregrounded, is for his approval numbers to regress to the issue numbers. And Gallup and Poll suggest he’s on the wrong side of this one.
Of course, after he gives the greatest speech on moral issues since the Sermon on the Mount, greater according to Hardball and Countdown, he’s approval numbers may go over 100% among Catholics, for the first time including vast choruses of saints and martyrs in the sampling.
CK MacLeod on May 17, 2009 at 1:44 PM
Why not? It’s simple enough.
DarkCurrent on May 17, 2009 at 1:44 PM
It is quite obvious that on this issue Annin is constantly trying to justify past actions.
Annin sorry it is not working…you, most here, and I know it.
Jamson64 on May 17, 2009 at 1:45 PM
I can get it to highlight. But then it clicks off when I want to copy.
I’ve tried holding it down, etc. Nothing seems to work.
AnninCA on May 17, 2009 at 1:46 PM
And if your Catholic friend has any understanding of her religion she knows that by her action she ec-communicated herself.
katiejane on May 17, 2009 at 1:46 PM
Well an annulment for a Catholic is not “junk” since they consider Marrige in the Church as a Sacrament. I do find much of the new revisions since Vatican II to be hypocritical on that issue, but that’s too long a discussion. I hope she finds what she’s looking for.
Deanna on May 17, 2009 at 1:46 PM
AnninCA,
This is not new territory that she’s suddenly wading into… she spoke about abortion and being pro-life in most of her speeches on the campaign trail, as well as energy, fiscal responsibility and other matters.
I’m not getting why this is a new revelation to you. I can understand if you didn’t follow the campaign closely, but all of her speeches are available on YouTube.
And of course, her speech last month at the Right to Life Dinner in Indiana was a landmark speech for her on the issue of life. Of course she’s going to talk about it, speak out in favor of life and not back away… it would be surprising to those of us who support her if she didn’t speak out.
This is an issue of core principles for her and others; it’s not a matter of moving along the slide-ruler to meet in the middle with the opposing view just for the sake of going along to get along; that’s not feasible when your belief in an issue is rooted in principled convictions.
yogi41 on May 17, 2009 at 1:46 PM
And well she should, but she’s not and keeps putting out statements on socials issues when people are not as concerned as you would like to believe on abortion and gay marriage.
People are more concerned about their futures, their disappearing retirement accounts, their abilities to pay the bills, their abilities to hang on to their jobs and their healthcare.
She cannot win on social issues alone!
Knucklehead on May 17, 2009 at 1:46 PM
Well, let’s not nitpick though. I disagree with AnninCA on this, but I can understand what she’s saying.
ddrintn on May 17, 2009 at 1:47 PM
I really think you are condescending, deliberately churlish, and innately vapid.
eaglesdontflock on May 17, 2009 at 1:47 PM
I disagree. When everyone knows her belief on the issue, why side step? It is stupid to side step for political aspirations when you have a belief that makes you you. We can agree to disagree, however.
Also, when you have a baby where if he was born to another mother would probably have been aborted, the issue becomes a little more personal to you and important.
deidre on May 17, 2009 at 1:48 PM
I am a devout Catholic, and, like Sarah Palin, I do NOT approve of Obama’s message. Of course, if you look at the numbers, those who attend Mass regularly disapprove, while those who attend Mass less regularly (read that as being less informed about their faith) do indeed overwhelmingly approve.
“That swamp” as you call it is indeed a swamp, filled with ROUSes, one of which is named Obama.
unclesmrgol on May 17, 2009 at 1:49 PM
I don’t think so. I think AnninCA is a single-issue voter, at least as much as pro-lifers. I imagine that pro-life is a deal-killer with AnninCA.
ddrintn on May 17, 2009 at 1:49 PM
Jamson, I am pro-choice and do not apologize for that at all.
I worked even as a young woman in So. Indiana as a pro-abortion activist. Didn’t work, btw. That’s a Catholic stronghold.
My own personal story, which is boring to most, is that I watched as a young person as women were treated horribly for pregnancy out of marriage, as rape was considered a woman’s fault, etc.
I didn’t want to get into all the debate on abortion because it’s just old attitudes, and I think we all have moved on from that nonsense.
AnninCA on May 17, 2009 at 1:49 PM
As if I needed any more reasons to despise the Crying Irish.
Kid from Brooklyn on May 17, 2009 at 1:50 PM
dd….I voted Republican. I was one of the few women I know who did.
Most veered away from McCain due to this issue. I decided, who cares. Let the next generation battle this one out. I’m sort of over it.
AnninCA on May 17, 2009 at 1:51 PM
Not nitpicking, just find it mildly painful to follow his/her responses without having to read through the entire thread first or be constantly scrolling up and paging back to figure out what the response it too.
DarkCurrent on May 17, 2009 at 1:51 PM
There are plenty of non Catholic universities out there where Obama could speak. I think that he and the school were both asking for trouble here. These people are serious about their pro life views and doing this is a real snub to the very people the university depends on for support.
Terrye on May 17, 2009 at 1:51 PM
The debate is changing, though. The movement appears to be trending pro-life.
ddrintn on May 17, 2009 at 1:53 PM
If one is going to discuss social issues, I’m happy for the Governor’s support of Carrie Prejean and Catholics who are not simply cultural Catholics.
But I agree with you about the focus of discussion. I want Republicans to focus more on fiscal responsibility, economic growth, and national security. Obama is greatly jeopardizing our nation on these issues, far more than anything else.
Loxodonta on May 17, 2009 at 1:54 PM
There is no excuse for Notre Dame doing this. It is against every tenet that the Catholic Church believes in and preaches.
If Notre Dame wants to invite a pro-choice speaker then maybe they should shed themselves of the Catholic Church and become a state-run university. In effect, they are snubbing their noses at Big Daddy and I imagine that they will come to regret it in the future. The Church doesn’t forget any kind of schism in it’s structure, it also doesn’t move fast in these situations. There will be hell to pay, but it will all be done within the confine of it’s very protected enclave. They wield a lot more power than many people can imagine.
As for Sarah Palin, she is a very brave and I absolutely admire her for answering this question. I don’t think there is anyone else in the GOP that has this woman’s cajones.
And for all of the Catholics who voted for Obama….you reap what you sow.
shomegirl on May 17, 2009 at 1:54 PM
Knucklehead
Then apparently you missed her statement about missile defense and North Korea:
“I am deeply concerned with North Korea’s development and testing program which has clear potential of impacting Alaska, a sovereign state of the United States, with a potentially nuclear armed warhead,” Governor Palin said. “I can’t emphasize enough how important it is that we continue to develop and perfect the global missile defense network. Alaska’s strategic location and the system in place here have proven invaluable in defending the nation.”
As well as her countless statements to the press about the stimulus package; even challenging Obama to veto it.
Yes, you conveniently ignore those press releases and just want to keep the focus on social issues. The fact is, she does issue press releases weekly concerning matters that affect this nation. If you choose to ignore them, that’s on you.
yogi41 on May 17, 2009 at 1:55 PM
O’bama won the high school dropout vote by the highest percentage ever-70%. McCain only got 29%.
Del Dolemonte on May 17, 2009 at 1:55 PM
If you’re using Windows, try ctrl + c from the keyboard to copy if that’s happening when you right click for the context menu. What browser are you using?
DarkCurrent on May 17, 2009 at 1:56 PM
I think so, dd….but not a hard pro-life position.
My sense is that people aren’t willing to use abortion as simply a birthcontrol, plus marriage rates are dropping. A lot of women are going to continue to opt for single parent solutions.
But I don’t think you’d see much support for overturning Roe VS Wade, for example.
AnninCA on May 17, 2009 at 1:58 PM
But that’s not up to any president, except in terms of appointing liberal vs conservative judges.
ddrintn on May 17, 2009 at 2:01 PM
There will always be more dirty laundry. Even if MSM has to make it up. They could just leave Levi a trail of meth to get him to “remember” Sarah Palin trying to seduce him or some other garbage.
Speedwagon82 on May 17, 2009 at 2:01 PM
Notice she only issues press releases or emails BECAUSE SHE STILL CANT SPEAK IN ANYTHING OTHER THAN HEARTLAND PAGEANT SPEAK!
hahahaha!
I predict Tina Fey will be back for next season, and the opener will be a hilarious Sarah Palin book signing.
strangelet on May 17, 2009 at 2:02 PM
If you’re using Windows, try ctrl + c from the keyboard to copy if that’s happening when you right click for the context menu. What browser are you using?
Good gravy….that’s complicated. but it worked. I held down Control C, then used the mouse to highlight and finally got the copy command to come up.
I use IE.
AnninCA on May 17, 2009 at 2:02 PM
I don’t think it’s knucklehead doing the ignoring. The media are giving us puff pieces about Obama, while ignoring all the dangers he’s causing to the economy and national security.
Them for republicans, the media are focusing almost exclusively on stories they think make republicans look stupid, crazy or scary, while ignoring policy statements about real issues.
Loxodonta on May 17, 2009 at 2:03 PM
Imperfect still, I see…..now it all blends together!
AnninCA on May 17, 2009 at 2:03 PM
Agreed.
daesleeper on May 17, 2009 at 2:05 PM
Dear Ann, did you receive your posting training from Cindy Mumford, Hot Air’s Miss Formater?
I too have problems here, so you are not alone.
Loxodonta on May 17, 2009 at 2:07 PM
I have one Catholic friend who has had abortions, not that she brags about that. They definitely aren’t all marching to the Pope’s tune on that issue.
AnninCA on May 17, 2009 at 1:08 PM
Hell I know liberals who are racist………..
norryrr on May 17, 2009 at 2:09 PM
But that’s not up to any president, except in terms of appointing liberal vs conservative judges
That’s the issue.
AnninCA on May 17, 2009 at 2:09 PM
The problem could be that you are either holding down the left mouse button while right clicking, or the left button is sticking when you release it and click right. That could produce the effect you describe.
DarkCurrent on May 17, 2009 at 2:10 PM
Not many miles left on that horse.
ddrintn on May 17, 2009 at 2:11 PM
PDS is very contagious…
This little nut wants Palin to call a press conference so all the local media in alaska can cover a national issue that has nothing do with ak.
TimeTraveler on May 17, 2009 at 2:11 PM
You see, strangelet, with all the overkill, Sarah Palin really has nowhere to go but up. Unintended consequences.
ddrintn on May 17, 2009 at 2:20 PM
once again strangelove, who thinks she’s the sharpest tool in the shed, proves what an ignorant moron she is.
all I can figure is she’s masochistic…or just too stupid to realize how stupid she is.
right4life on May 17, 2009 at 2:22 PM
I would love for tina to mock the moment where Palin laughs her ass off after signing a multi millionaire dollar deal.
What if she doesn’t run for reelection? Can you imagine the amount of luxurious speaking gigs she will accept overseas and cross country?
TimeTraveler on May 17, 2009 at 2:23 PM
most of them are.
right4life on May 17, 2009 at 2:23 PM
You people have had your way for years and now that the currents are changing, you want to stop all the talking?
The answer is a resounding NO. Besides, just by commenting here, you are participating in the “nonsense”.
I’ve just figured out my Dilbertesque job for the year — it’s to prevent my company from hiring any Notre Dame 2009 graduates. Anyone care to join up?
unclesmrgol on May 17, 2009 at 2:24 PM
I have a hard time believing that poll. In fact I will never believe it. It proves the old adage that you can get a poll to prove anything you want.
Herb on May 17, 2009 at 2:24 PM
I agree. Here’s my question for Notre Dame.
What were you thinking?
The ‘man’ in the Whitehouse argued AGAINST BAIPA. It wasn’t yesterday. It was years ago. There’s no surprise here. There’s no ‘Oops, we had no idea’. It was sad. You made a mistake. We all get that. Now, man up, fix it and make an effort to make amends with the Catholic students who are and will be graduating.
OTOH: If this wasn’t a mistake, how can Notre Dame claim to be Catholic while promoting, honoring, and awarding ‘The One’ who declared FOCA as his primary objective?
/rant off
Blacksmith8 on May 17, 2009 at 2:25 PM
It’s enough to look at that photo of Fey and Palin together. Tina Fey doesn’t want anyone to look at that for very long, I assure you.
ddrintn on May 17, 2009 at 2:26 PM
it seems most catholic universities are catholic in name only…
right4life on May 17, 2009 at 2:27 PM
Good for Sarah Palin … she is right.
I really don’t trust these polls. Are they only asking black Catholics, college students or the family members of Nancy Pelosi & Joe Biden. Maybe to get an accurate percentage the pollsters should stand outside Catholic churches on a Sunday and ask the question to the practicing Catholics not the CINO’s?
redridinghood on May 17, 2009 at 2:33 PM
Uncle..that’s fine.
I think it’s a generational shift. This will be a bit like discussing the good ole’ days when racism was codified in Jim Crow laws in the South.
Some issues simply take a generation to die.
AnninCA on May 17, 2009 at 2:35 PM
I’m too lazy to read the whole thread, but has anyone pointed out the fallacy in this statement:
It’s my understanding that the President’s office sends out requests to universities and they respond, not the other way around.
As for Sarah’s statement: “You go, girl!”
Y-not on May 17, 2009 at 2:36 PM
the democRAT party, the party of slavery, racism and abortion…its all about dehumanizing others…
right4life on May 17, 2009 at 2:43 PM
Thanks for the backup. I don’t know where the press releases are and does a press release really count in this day and age of the Obama MSM? There may be press releases, but the only time we really hear anything from Sarah Palin is on the social issues.
And trying to have a discussion about the issues we think are important, and the things we wish Palin would get in front of, is kind of pointless with some of these diehard Palin supporters. Press releases and e-mails just isn’t cutting it. Rather than listen to some our helpful criticism, they’d rather throw us to the wolves and snark at us.
Knucklehead on May 17, 2009 at 2:44 PM
I wonder if the pro-abortion side ever considers the fact that their posterity in 100 years will look back at them the same way we look at the pro-slavery side today.
joe_doufu on May 17, 2009 at 2:49 PM
Quotes still not working :-(
I was test manager for several versions of your browser and really want to see this work.
DarkCurrent on May 17, 2009 at 2:49 PM
Wow. How enlightened.
Y-not on May 17, 2009 at 2:49 PM
37% for even letting him speak?
WTF has happened to HotAir?
Complete troll-takeover?
And for Sarah, just when I think I can’t love this future POTUS any more, she does it again.
Palin/Rubio 2012
Sapwolf on May 17, 2009 at 2:50 PM
Thanks Dark….it’s making me buggy, too.
AnninCA on May 17, 2009 at 2:54 PM
here is how I see it. Say the shoe was on the other foot.
Pro-abortion rally/college asked someone pro-life to speak; or better yet, pro-gay marriage rally/college asked someone anti-gay marriage to speak.
Can you IMAGINE the uproar?
deidre on May 17, 2009 at 2:55 PM
He’ll probably joke about it in that snotty way. Suggesting that he’s been somehow put upon, as he always does.
Unless he’s got sense enough to know that this is too serious to treat that way. (That hasn’t held him back before, though.)
Alana on May 17, 2009 at 2:55 PM
I have an HP laptop. When I use the control C solution, I get beeps. I left-click and it works fine. Highlights beautifully. Then I right-click and can’t get the copy function.
I do think it’s something to do with my set up in Windows.
AnninCA on May 17, 2009 at 2:56 PM
As I’ve posted elsewhere, I had no horse in the race last year because I did not have the ability to follow it until lust before the general election. I also have no horse in the race for 2012. And when I do pick a candidate, I will be advocating for the candidate and not against those whom I did not prefer. I want the discussions to continue, not get into flame throwing wars.
Given how biased the media are right now, to get through the the blockade, perhaps Governor Palin and other prospective candidates should grant interviews on the budget, the economy and national security in just their underwear, or like Proust, while in bed. At least we’d see their pictures in the news.
Loxodonta on May 17, 2009 at 2:56 PM
deidra, I think the uproar is natural and appropriate. We’re talking about a major university NOT inviting the President of the United States.
This is a complete loser of an argument. It’s ridiculous, in my opinion.
First of all, I can’t figure out why people think they are in charge of university policies. That’s absurd. Second, I can’t figure out why abortion is still such a hot button for so many people. Third, we have so many real problems that this issue just strikes me as self-indulgent, mostly.
AnninCA on May 17, 2009 at 2:58 PM
Folks, actions speak. She attended a pro-life convention, her daughter has aroused great controversy over the abstenence position with Candi, and she now issues a statement that has nothing to do with Alaska, after saying for weeks that she’s interested in nothing BUT Alaska, and it’s on….pro-life.
This is going to be her political platform. Why?
That, I don’t get. It’s discombulating, to say the least.
AnninCA on May 17, 2009 at 3:01 PM
Because it is still happening, even in this country.
joe_doufu on May 17, 2009 at 3:04 PM
I know most of the focus is on the part of Sarah’s statement that addresses Obama’s ‘recognition’ by Notre Dame but my favorite part of the e-mail is the last part where she castigates Notre Dame decision in the light of evidence that America may be favoring the pro-life position and that Notre Dame should be in the vanguard in widening the spread, and not legitimizing the views of the opposite side as it seeks to increase its numbers in the future.
technopeasant on May 17, 2009 at 3:04 PM
The posts from Athensboy are so ridiculous and laced with hate, I’m beginning to think he/she is a…
Reverse-Troll
A Troll designed to be so poor that they are detrimental to their alleged cause.
Is there a term for such a poor troll that actually helps the other side?
You career bloggers help us out here.
Sapwolf on May 17, 2009 at 3:05 PM
Try selecting the text first, then release the mouse button, then ctrl + c to copy.
DarkCurrent on May 17, 2009 at 3:05 PM
Strangelet -
You starting your autobiography?
bw222 on May 17, 2009 at 3:06 PM
I actually could care less if he was invited, I’m not catholic; but I have friends that are catholic that are really upset that he was invited because of what the catholic church teaches and believes. It really isn’t a loser of an argument because honestly, the left would be down the right’s throats if the shoe was on the other foot and they probably would have disinvited that person to speak.
Abortion isn’t on the “top of the list” to some individuals, but it is still an issue to some and should be respected. There are a lot of other things in the world to deal with, but abortion still is an issue that will probably never likely go away or even get overturned for that matter.
deidre on May 17, 2009 at 3:06 PM
What does Notre Dame represent now? Since they can’t play football anymore, if they give up Catholicism, what’s the point of their even existing?
joe_doufu on May 17, 2009 at 3:06 PM
Are you a f***in idiot?
1 million dead human beings a year and it doesn’t make your freekin radar?
Go shoot yourself in the head. I can’t shoot you. I’m a Christian.
Sapwolf on May 17, 2009 at 3:08 PM
That, I don’t get. It’s discombulating, to say the least.
AnninCA on May 17, 2009 at 3:01 PM
Probably a lot of things in your life are….
norryrr on May 17, 2009 at 3:09 PM
Control C gets me nothing. I then click right-mouse and the beeping starts.
AnninCA on May 17, 2009 at 3:10 PM
That’s what they used to say about slavery. It went away. American principles make a lot of impossible things possible.
joe_doufu on May 17, 2009 at 3:11 PM
I’m pro-choice, Sap. It’s quite OK to hate me for that. I don’t take it personally.
I also will never agree.
I did vote for McCain, because I’m frankly sick and tired of the entire debate. It’s just up to the next generation.
I’m fortunately past the age of worrying. So let it be your issue.
AnninCA on May 17, 2009 at 3:11 PM
I’m watching this egomaniac talk right now. It was hard not to vomit watching the priest who is the President of Notre Dame introduce him. (The man should be fired.) But watchng Obama talk about himself and how he didn’t get an honorary degree at the last college he spoke at this week is even more sickening.
Heaven help us. And may God forgive us.
Elisa on May 17, 2009 at 3:13 PM
Conern troll alert?
When did you get one?
Sapwolf on May 17, 2009 at 3:13 PM
Listening to this smug muslim totus speak, I now know why I no longer attend my catholic church.
I didn’t lose my faith, my faith lost me.
Kini on May 17, 2009 at 3:13 PM
Sarah Palin is a better Catholic (without being one) than the president of Notre Dame. He (“Mr.” Jenkins) is a liberal progressive a$$hat whose personal beliefs appear to mesh perfectly with Ogabe’s. Of course the board that hired this lump won’t do anything unless the money starts to dry up. Hope it does soon.
As if the history of my church didn’t have enough dents and dings…oy!
SKYFOX on May 17, 2009 at 3:13 PM
Oh, I also want to add that why it is such a huge deal for my friends that are catholic probably has more in the way of how extreme Obama’s abortion views are.
deidre on May 17, 2009 at 3:14 PM
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