Audio: Axelrod dumps on Miss California
posted at 8:54 pm on May 16, 2009 by Allahpundit
Yeah, I know I wrote about this yesterday but you need to hear the audience reaction to see how right Omri Ceren was. Again: There’s no joke here. There’s no wit or irony or play on words or anything remotely clever. Unless he’s calling her a dog, and he surely isn’t, the extent of the “punchline” is simply invoking Carrie Prejean in a context that’s meant to be belittling, even though it’s not quite clear how. And yet the audience practically shrieks with glee. To the extent this is any type of humor at all, it’s a sort of in-joke without the joke: The left’s been enjoying a Two Minutes Hate on her for the past few weeks and now suddenly here’s the senior advisor to the president joining in. The laughter, I think, is simply a reflex of surprise and approbation upon discovering that a figure as exalted as Axelrod would stoop to their level of douchebaggery. All things considered, she’d make a great opening joke for The One’s next speech — except, of course, for the fact that he holds the same position on gay marriage that she does.
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JetBoy hates Miss California. I love her. She has real inner beauty and I am sure this story will just keep going on and on. Everyone wants to talk about Carrie and how she was unfairly attacked by a gay, hate-filled heterophobe. They will make a movie out of her courageous struggle against the odds and the leftist media haters and she will get her own talk show and put NPR out of business.
Maybe Carrie will become a judge for Mr Gay US and she will get to ask the questions. That only makes sense.
Geochelone on May 16, 2009 at 10:15 PM
These statements made by Axelrod, et al, aren’t public policy statements…they’re just idiotic, off-te-cuff remarks. If anything like the “fairness doctrine” passes, then I’ll be concerned.
I’ve noticed both left AND right leaning blogs going non-stop about this.
JetBoy on May 16, 2009 at 10:16 PM
What happens if it comes out that she voted for Obama?
SnarkVader on May 16, 2009 at 10:16 PM
Your gripe should be with thugs who are trying to destroy someone merely for expressing an opinion. Stop trying to find any way possible to blame the victim.
ddrintn on May 16, 2009 at 10:16 PM
Jet Boy:
Sorry, but I think that even if the Right ignored the whole thing these guys would do this stuff.
I am a woman and I kind of thing the whole dumb b*tch thing was over the top as was the stupid question. The left went after this woman the same way they did Palin, good lucking women are stupid as far as they are concerned…unless of course it is some dimwit of a movie star.
Terrye on May 16, 2009 at 10:16 PM
Maybe Axelrod and his henchmen in the media would shut up?
ddrintn on May 16, 2009 at 10:17 PM
She may have voted for Obama. And that matters why?
terryannonline on May 16, 2009 at 10:17 PM
Oh, brother. Yeah…I said that.
Well, that’s my cue. My future ex is out there waiting for me…’nite.
JetBoy on May 16, 2009 at 10:18 PM
Death by a million cuts is still death.
thomasaur on May 16, 2009 at 10:19 PM
Beats me. But they surely DON’T understand that she’s smoking hot, and the bullets are just bouncing off her.
I say she’s Wonder Woman, panty-ads be damned! In this case, Perez Hilton has bitten off far more than he can chew–and I’m betting that’s say a lot for that guy.
Thanks for the gift, Perez and others on the left. A day without a Carrie Prejean entry is like a day without sunshine.
BuckeyeSam on May 16, 2009 at 10:20 PM
How do you know they aren’t public policy statements? The message seems pretty clear. Get in the way, and we’ll use the bully pulpit. What would you say if Axelrod had called the black people dogs? Would this still be off-the-cuff remarkism?
No, it is completely fair to point out this horrible behavior of the White House. We’ve had no qualms so far about pointing out the ideological stances of some of Obamas potential appointees…
Upstater85 on May 16, 2009 at 10:20 PM
This whole thing is so bassackwards it is unbelievable.
Dick Cheney is pro gay marriage yet he is “Darth” Cheney.
Obama is anti gay marriage but he is “The One.”
Carrie Prejean is not even a politician, didn’t even volunteer her opinion on the issue until it was forced upon her, and here is this ground swell of hate.
Amazing
dKap on May 16, 2009 at 10:20 PM
If that’s what he calls her, I wonder what he calls the boss’s wife.
capitalist piglet on May 16, 2009 at 10:22 PM
I’m wondering if the overwhelming support here would be the same. Lots of Christians voted for Obama. Her stance on gay marriage is the same as his. It’s not improbable. So, if video came out of her wearing an Obama t-shirt at a rally, would you all feel the same about her?
SnarkVader on May 16, 2009 at 10:22 PM
I don’t think it’s just because they think they’re stupid. I don’t think they believe either Palin or Prejean is any more stupid than, say, Maureen Dowd. It’s because they’re a PR threat.
ddrintn on May 16, 2009 at 10:22 PM
Man, I had so many typos in that post, it looks like I have been drinking..and I have not. Sober as a judge I am.
As for these idiots, they make fun of people..that is what they do. Palin, the Tea Party people, Miss California…it is how they like to frame things. They are cool, everyone else is an idiot. Or so they think.
Terrye on May 16, 2009 at 10:23 PM
Shillary McJunior?
Upstater85 on May 16, 2009 at 10:23 PM
ddrintn:
Ridicule is a very good weapon.
Terrye on May 16, 2009 at 10:24 PM
If Obama’s brownshirts in and out of the White House try to destroy someone for expressing an opinion, I couldn’t care less for whom that person voted.
ddrintn on May 16, 2009 at 10:24 PM
I don’t know about others, but I would, yes. I don’t even know if I would like her as a person or if we could be BFFs, and I don’t care. What is disturbing is that apparently Obama and his minions feel more than comfortable trying to stifle free speech.
Upstater85 on May 16, 2009 at 10:25 PM
SnarkVader:
I think there is an even chance that she voted for Obama. She is from California after all. And I would still support her, she answered a question and does not deserve to be vilified for it.
Terrye on May 16, 2009 at 10:25 PM
So they want everyone to think. They’re insecure because deep down they know their ideas are crap.
ddrintn on May 16, 2009 at 10:25 PM
LOL! So because someone voted for Obama you expect us to get mean and turn her. Dude, if I held a grudge on everyone that voted for Obama I wouldn’t be able to watch ANY television whatsoever…..well maybe fox news.
terryannonline on May 16, 2009 at 10:27 PM
To some people, such attacks are only wrong if they agree with the political beliefs of the targeted victims.
Loxodonta on May 16, 2009 at 10:28 PM
Ah yes… consistency is er lacking.
Upstater85 on May 16, 2009 at 10:29 PM
Your inside understanding of the Right is purely rhetorical. Right?
People from all political clothes have got to pay the piper sooner or later.
I see you’ve finally dropped all pretense.
hawkdriver on May 16, 2009 at 10:29 PM
Do they have to be?
What if a private citizen whose opinion you identified with was targeted for a personal, degrading insult by someone in government?
This trend by the Obama administration is more than annoying. It’s disturbing.
capitalist piglet on May 16, 2009 at 10:29 PM
Eat your heart out, Axelrod.
Buy Danish on May 16, 2009 at 10:30 PM
OK, since we are trying to figure out if the righties are consistent, who would support someone from O&co getting up and calling Janeane Garofalo a dog?
Upstater85 on May 16, 2009 at 10:30 PM
Where’s Napoleon?
Upstater85 on May 16, 2009 at 10:31 PM
I would think calling Janeane Garofalo a dog is mean-spirited absolutely. However, I don’t that exactly reaches the level of wishing someone’s kidneys to fail, like Sykes.
terryannonline on May 16, 2009 at 10:33 PM
I was just thinking of doing an ‘Air’ shout out to you and lo and behold here you are. Greetings Chief.
thomasaur on May 16, 2009 at 10:33 PM
Man, Streisand is starting to look like Mel Brooks.
thomasaur on May 16, 2009 at 10:35 PM
Actually, this photo gallery is better, what with the perspicacious title.
I prefer “skank” to “dog” in her case. But you won’t hear anyone in the Bush Administration saying that.
Buy Danish on May 16, 2009 at 10:35 PM
Yes, I agree it’s not on the same level, but you admit you would be upset if Obama or Axelrod had called JG a dog?
Upstater85 on May 16, 2009 at 10:36 PM
(I’m like Beetle Juice)
Seriously, I’m still reading Hot Air when I can. We’re just really busy.
hawkdriver on May 16, 2009 at 10:37 PM
No you wont, and this is one thing that Bush was very honorable with.
Upstater85 on May 16, 2009 at 10:37 PM
At least you can post. These attacks against Prejean, and especially people who try to rationalize them, get me so mad that I have difficulty posting at all because I won’t swear.
Loxodonta on May 16, 2009 at 10:37 PM
Here’s one of ours, who was in the news today.
Buy Danish on May 16, 2009 at 10:38 PM
Axel..what?
Speakup on May 16, 2009 at 10:40 PM
She was one of the best on L&O. Rohm was hot as well, but not quite as good.
Upstater85 on May 16, 2009 at 10:40 PM
First of all I’m not “upset” with Axelrod about what he said this audio. I think it was just a careless joke so I’m “outrageously outraged” about it. So to be honest I wouldn’t be “outrageously outraged” if he said it about Janeane Garafalo either.
terryannonline on May 16, 2009 at 10:41 PM
Hello! Figure it out, thomasaur! Hot babe threads!
Also, alpha males are always the first to leap to the defense of women and children.
Don’t you, Hawkdriver?
Loxodonta on May 16, 2009 at 10:42 PM
Ah OK. Well, I think you agree with me then. We aren’t “supporting” Prejean because she’s the blond Christian Republican…
Upstater85 on May 16, 2009 at 10:42 PM
I would be upset with ANY president and/or their advisers/cabinet would take time to publicly insult a private citizen, especially in such a elementary school manner.
If Axelrod had said something along the line with “I find it unfortunate that someone in her position would take such a stand” – well, I wouldn’t have much of a problem with it.
But it’s the mean-spirited pettiness of the whole matter that gets me upset.
If you don’t like her opinion, ENGAGE her on the issue.
But calling one of the most beautiful women in the world a “dog”…
…well, that’s not only incredibly obviously not true, but it shows a little kid’s level of dealing with disagreement.
Religious_Zealot on May 16, 2009 at 10:44 PM
JetBoy thinks that as long as it is not a public policy statement members of the Obama administration can say pretty much anything against private citizens off-the-cuff and it is no big deal. Sounds like what Hitler did BEFORE it became a public policy statement.
The Obama Adminstration has an enemies list and an active campaign to demonize private citizens who dare disagree with them.
JetBoy does’t get much of anything.
Geochelone on May 16, 2009 at 10:44 PM
Janeane would go into a coma. “But, mein Führer, I have always been devoted to das Reich…”
ddrintn on May 16, 2009 at 10:45 PM
Yes, perhaps you could refer to this as using the bully pulpit in a responsible, respectful manner.
Upstater85 on May 16, 2009 at 10:46 PM
Yes I would agree. I don’t like seeing people attacked like this whether they be Republican and Democrat. Hey, I was even questioning in another thread the other why it was only Nancy Pelosi getting heat on the whole torture thing.
terryannonline on May 16, 2009 at 10:47 PM
Well, it seems that the veneer finally came off of JetBoy.
Imagine that, blaming people for defending vicious and unwarranted attacks…
…and at the same time not taking to task those MAKING the vicious and unwarranted attacks.
Religious_Zealot on May 16, 2009 at 10:47 PM
Isn’t is wonderful that we have such character and class in the White House?
chalons on May 16, 2009 at 10:47 PM
Or take it as a personal compliment given Obama’s taste in women…
Upstater85 on May 16, 2009 at 10:48 PM
Yeah, I think I read that one.
I think one reason we may seem to be always defending those that are right of center is because often a conservative government will not go after private citizens… whereas a left of center government would seem to love to demonize the private citizen – in particular those that are right of center.
Upstater85 on May 16, 2009 at 10:50 PM
Men without chests. If they had one, they would recognize ungentlemanly behavior. And unlike if he had made a racial joke or, say, one about the Special Olympics, no one’s going to demand he apologize.
evergreen on May 16, 2009 at 10:51 PM
Just so we can get a fair comparison, pick a pretty woman on the left.
capitalist piglet on May 16, 2009 at 10:51 PM
Yeah, he might not be a “troll,” but I’m starting to question his alleged conservative roots. He seems to be a conservative when it is useful for him. What would you call that? Pragmatic Conservatism?
Upstater85 on May 16, 2009 at 10:52 PM
Here’s why it’s a problem:
If private citizen Rush Limbaugh said it the White House would be sending out outraged fund raising letters declaring that Rush is the heart and mind of the Republican party who must be defeated.
If, say, Karl Rove had said it he’d be forced to go into exile on a desert island in an undisclosed location.
Meanwhile, David Axelrod undoubtedly got a high five from Barack.
Buy Danish on May 16, 2009 at 10:54 PM
First Hot Babe threads couldn’t hurt. I love Angie Harmon (and Jodie Miller from Newsbusters). Thanks for the link Danish. Alas, neither one returns my letters. :-(
All kidding aside though, I posted a comment a few nights ago when I was on, about the gay agenda/movement and the ugly underbelly it’s developed. I might have been on board with some of their general concerns when you hear them from the so-called Conservative Gay point of view. Not anymore. I simply don’t believe a word of what they say anymore. They so-called Conservative Gays) are as intellectually corrupt as Perez Hilton himself. I this that guy is pretty typical of them all.
So, I think anyone they attack must defacto be more in line with my thinking. (regardless of who they voted for) I admire the Conservative Women in the news right now a whole lot more than the Cnservative men to boot.
hawkdriver on May 16, 2009 at 10:54 PM
I haven’t read that yet, but the reason she’s getting heat is a case of being hoist with your own petard. They’re the ones wanting the show trials.
ddrintn on May 16, 2009 at 10:54 PM
That sounds about right.
What? Transparent hypocrisy would stop The Precedent? That would be a first.
progressoverpeace on May 16, 2009 at 10:55 PM
How do you figure that?
I think it is very clear what he is doing. He is not, of course, saying that she logs like a dog, that is what Axelrod himself looks like, but rather that she is mentally and morally at the level of s dog and should be treated like a dog. Much like slave holders treated their slaves. Much like muslims treat their women. A really disgusting excuse for a human being, even one hailing from the Chicago power structure.
MB4 on May 16, 2009 at 10:56 PM
One more thought on this…
…this is basically a threat.
What JetBoy is saying is “We’re not going to stop until you stop defending her.”
To JetBoy and all his ilk my reply is “You’ve got it bassackwards. One does NOT stop doing the RIGHT thing in fear of the WRONG thing continuing to be done. So, buckle up, because we’re drawing a line here. Back off and act like human beings or strap it on and come get some. We’re not going anywhere.”
Religious_Zealot on May 16, 2009 at 10:56 PM
Pass the bottle Terrye.
hawkdriver on May 16, 2009 at 10:57 PM
I understand what you are saying. I was upset last weekend with Sykes remarks. However, I just don’t think Axelrod’s “joke” rises to that level. It wasn’t as tasteless.
terryannonline on May 16, 2009 at 10:58 PM
There other Democrats demanding show trials and I don’t see them grilled by the media about it.
terryannonline on May 16, 2009 at 11:00 PM
I’d say that he certainly SEEMS like a obsessive one-issue voter.
Wherever he stands on anything else, gay rights towers over everything else.
In fact, it seems to tower over his ethics and morals if he thinks the RIGHT is to blame for standing up to the crap being thrown at Miss Prejean.
And that’s the problem with obsessive one-issue voters – they take an “any means” outlook on getting their way.
Religious_Zealot on May 16, 2009 at 11:00 PM
Selfish, fiscally conservative gays. They seem to like their money. Just ask David Geffen.
hawkdriver on May 16, 2009 at 11:02 PM
We’ll let it go when the Stalinist clowns on the Left let it go. Fair?
GayPatriot is an excellent website.
Buy Danish on May 16, 2009 at 11:02 PM
Yeah, it’s the Palin Treatment in miniature. I think they’re intoxicated with their success, and it may eventually prove to be their undoing.
ddrintn on May 16, 2009 at 11:02 PM
Let the trials begin, and I assure you they will be.
ddrintn on May 16, 2009 at 11:03 PM
Clearly you can take garbage out of Chicago and put it in the White House but it’s still garbage. This sorry excuse for a man is just fortunate that this is not still the time of duels or he would be cowering in some corner someplace. Ditto that other little fascist, Perez Hilton.
MB4 on May 16, 2009 at 11:04 PM
Wow, MB4.
terryannonline on May 16, 2009 at 11:06 PM
I stick with the Newsbusters link.
Thanks again.
hawkdriver on May 16, 2009 at 11:08 PM
I’ll…
hawkdriver on May 16, 2009 at 11:08 PM
Amen brother.
hawkdriver on May 16, 2009 at 11:10 PM
More Hot babes? OK.
Perez Hilton is the face that launched a thousand slips in Gay Marriage polling.
Loxodonta on May 16, 2009 at 11:10 PM
No it wasn’t as tasteless (he wasn’t wishing her death, for one thing), but it was arguably worse because it came from the White House, not a comedian, and he was behaving like a bully.
It’s a metaphor for the lack of gravitas, and the mean-spirited hypocrisy of the insufferably Saintly Obama Administration who are constantly telling the rest of us how we should conduct our lives.
Buy Danish on May 16, 2009 at 11:11 PM
That’s not my problem with it.
My problem with it is that the government isn’t supposed to single out Americans – private citizens who have done nothing wrong to shame and ridicule.
This man represents Barack Obama. He, and Obama, act as though they’re only obligated to treat respectfully the Americans who voted for them.
capitalist piglet on May 16, 2009 at 11:12 PM
You’re not going to find photos there. I linked to a very thoughtful piece they wrote about Carrie Prejean.
Buy Danish on May 16, 2009 at 11:14 PM
Because everyone knows that it’s perfectly tasteful to call a woman a “dog”.
capitalist piglet on May 16, 2009 at 11:14 PM
All you foul tyrants who lord above us
You who would give Carrie the smack of your rod
Sooner than you think now you will be given the gutter
You will be given the judgment of God!
The world may be ugly, but each man must do what he must
Give in foul Axelrod, and soon you will be dust
Now come let our lady possess you
In her breathtaking, hair-raising bed
She will tingle your spine
As she captures your heart and your head
Sing, swing
Savor the sting
As she severs you, Madame Guillotine
Slice, come paradise
Our Delilah will shave you razor clean
PercyB on May 16, 2009 at 11:14 PM
There is a level of misogyny that exists in this White House that the women on the left ought to be paying serious attention to.
(As if.)
capitalist piglet on May 16, 2009 at 11:16 PM
The funny part is that Axelrod says in the same interview that would never stoop to Karl Rove’s level. I might be wrong but I never recall evil Rove comparing a woman to a dog.
terryannonline on May 16, 2009 at 11:17 PM
In reference to the ‘hate group’ appellation put on the National Organization for Marriage(?) by Shanna Moakler in yesterday’s thread, I just have to laugh considering the source. Here is one of those failed MTV reality show subjects who couldn’t keep her skinny, absurdly tattooed, has been drummer of a husband. A young mother who liked to hit the hot spots in Los Angeles so that she could initiate multiple dust-ups with young women who Moakler thought had been too close to her husband during their various separations. This is a woman of Klass with a capital K.
thegreatbeast on May 16, 2009 at 11:17 PM
Thanks for posting that link. He gets it. He’s not rationalizing it or blaming the victim or her defenders. I might disagree with him on many things, but my guess is that this is the sort of person I want to feel welcomed in the Republican Party.
Loxodonta on May 16, 2009 at 11:17 PM
I didn’t say it was tasteful. I just it not as tasteless as wishing someone kidney failure.
terryannonline on May 16, 2009 at 11:18 PM
Very true. And they single out those private citizens for ridicule in fund raising letters.
Buy Danish on May 16, 2009 at 11:18 PM
That is not nearly as much as I could say, if I chose.
MB4 on May 16, 2009 at 11:19 PM
You’re remarkably wrong about this, and your insistence upon morally equivocating the Right and Left reactions to the savaging of Miss Prejean is adrift, both morally and intellectually.
Let me give you a primer on the matter:
The Left attacks her. That’s wrong.
The Right defends her from the Left’s attack. It’s important, just, and proper to defend the innocent. In this case, Miss Prejean is innocent.
The only people who should have ire directed at them are the scumbags like Hilton, Maher and Axelrod. No one on the right should be criticized for defending her.
You’re welcome.
Kensington on May 16, 2009 at 11:20 PM
Karl Rove is Satan to the left because he kicked their asses, without the media’s help. Atwater before him was similarly demonized.
ddrintn on May 16, 2009 at 11:22 PM
While it doesn’t hurt that they’re easy on the eyes, my admiration comes more from their words and actions.
God bless her heart, Victorian Jackson doesn’t get taken seriously (very much)for her Conservative convictions. But she called it the way she saw it before the elections and called Obama a Socialist in an interview. When are COnservative men who will say what they truly think? Prejean made a decision on national TV to not say something she thought everyone just wanted to hear. She spoke from her heart. She spoke from her convictions. The Hot Air regulars that somehow find her to be the cause of the hateful atention she’s getting just defy explanation.
hawkdriver on May 16, 2009 at 11:23 PM
Well said.
hawkdriver on May 16, 2009 at 11:25 PM
Thank you, Scarlet Pimpernel.
Loxodonta on May 16, 2009 at 11:25 PM
What the hell is this? One cowardly bastard named Perez Hilton leaves the stage and another one named David Axelrod comes out!
You want to know what you are, David Axlerod? Huh? Huh? You don’t, I do, everybody does… . … you’re the son of a thousand fathers, all cowardly bastards like you.
Tuco on May 16, 2009 at 11:27 PM
I agree that Axelrod’s comment didn’t “rise” to Sykes’ level.
Sykes’ ridicule was similar to stuff heard in high school locker rooms and lunch tables.
Axelrod’s “joke” was similar to stuff heard in elementary school play grounds.
My problem with Axelrod here is twofold:
- an important and valued adviser to the President of the United States should not be insulting private citizens ESPECIALLY ones who made no attack on the President and actually share the same opinion.
- an important and valued adviser to the President of the United States shouldn’t be stooping to grade school playground taunts. It bespeaks an amazing level (or lack thereof) of seriousness and respect for the position of the Presidency.
Religious_Zealot on May 16, 2009 at 11:28 PM
He certainly would not say that about a private citizen because he disagreed with her position on an issue.
BTW, Rove was laugh out loud funny this morning, making fun of this fumble from Robert Gibbs:
Q But if I can just follow on that, when you say the President has been consistent, the quote that Jake read from 2007 where the President flatly said, I would reject — using the word “reject” — the Military Commissions Act. He’s not rejecting it today. He’s embracing the Bush law –
MR. GIBBS: No, no, no, no –
Q — with tweaks. He’s embracing that law but saying, “I want to tweak it.”
MR. GIBBS: “I’m buying a car except I’m changing the engine and painting it a different color and calling it a different” –
Q Well, he’s not rejecting this law. There’s not a new law coming. He’s not rejecting this. He’s saying, “We’re going to live with this law with tweaks.”
Rove said that everything Obama claims is “new” was already being done by Bush, so it was more like buying the same car and changing out the pine deodorant and putting on a new bumper sticker.
Buy Danish on May 16, 2009 at 11:30 PM
JetBoy’s problem is that he views Miss Prejean’s opinion on gay marriage to be WORSE than the actions done against her.
Which, of course, is the worse kind of moral equivalency.
Of course, those of us who are opposed to gay marriage should THANK people like Perez Hilton, TMZ, the Playboy Bunny ex-director, Bill Maher, Axelrod, etc. etc.
They are doing more to set back their cause than anything we have done.
Religious_Zealot on May 16, 2009 at 11:31 PM
But (maybe it wasn’t you?) you said it didn’t really bother you that much. I’m female, as are you, and I find it deeply misogynistic and part of a pattern in this White House.
Sarah Palin is a “pig”, and Carrie Prejean is a “dog”.
These guys sound like fundamentalist Muslims. Maybe they’re trying to relate to them or something.
capitalist piglet on May 16, 2009 at 11:34 PM
Terry Ann, conservative men are angry over these attacks on Carrie. Very angry.
This is one of America’s great strengths: The anger that erupts in us when innocent people are improperly victimized. And especially when the victims are women or children or the elderly or the disabled. We fight for what’s right.
Loxodonta on May 16, 2009 at 11:35 PM
Yup.
Also, you can add “don’t start nuthin, won’t be nuthin” to that. This kind of crap never starts from the conservative side. Suggesting that it will stop when we give up is ludicrous.
massrighty on May 16, 2009 at 11:35 PM
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