Video: Jon Stewart kind of bummed Obama didn’t release detainee photos

posted at 6:35 pm on May 15, 2009 by Allahpundit

Oh, but they were released thanks to Australian media, and in any case The One surely knows he’s likely to lose the court fight to keep them suppressed. Then he can blame the judges and wash his hands of the whole matter. Patience, lefties, patience. There’ll be plenty of time for Iraqis to get good and angry again. Or will there?

Darraji didn’t know there were more pictures of abuse by U.S. soldiers at the Abu Ghraib prison outside Baghdad until a reporter told him on Friday, and he doubted that their release would lead to more attacks.

“Nothing would happen,” he said. “This is a very old issue, and we Iraqis have seen much worse than just photos.”…

Harith al Obaidi , the head of the largest Sunni Muslim bloc in Iraq’s parliament and the deputy chairman of the Committee on Human Rights , also shrugged off the Obama administration’s concerns over the photos.

“The people who want to express their opinions through violence are already trying their best to do so,” Obaidi said. “Showing them a few pictures wouldn’t make them any more able to do it.”

As for Stewart’s suggestion that enhanced interrogation must be wrong if we’re so eager to prevent photos of it getting out (the Abu Ghraib pics aren’t related to the CIA program so far as I know, but never mind that), we can recycle the Hiroshima question that Cliff May dropped on him to answer it. If, as Stewart later conceded, Truman wasn’t a war criminal for ordering the bombing, isn’t it nonetheless true that photos of children dead in the aftermath would have stoked anti-American sentiment among the Japanese? However you come down on waterboarding, the question of whether it’s necessary/proper is largely independent of the question of whether it’ll make people angry. The latter’s a factor to be considered, but only one factor. Not that difficult.

Credit where it’s due, though: He’s spot on about Dan Choi.

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Being the President of the United States means sometimes doing things Jon Stewart doesn’t like, to protect people Jon Stewart doesn’t care about.

Jim Treacher on May 15, 2009 at 6:37 PM

Who cares what Jon Stewart thinks about anything?

Emily M. on May 15, 2009 at 6:40 PM

Jim Treacher on May 15, 2009 at 6:37 PM

I *heart* you Jim.

upinak on May 15, 2009 at 6:41 PM

What is the proof that photo released by the Australian media is authentic?

Dr Evil on May 15, 2009 at 6:41 PM

I *heart* you Jim.

upinak on May 15, 2009 at 6:41 PM

Me too.

myrenovations on May 15, 2009 at 6:43 PM

You know SNL photo shopped air force one in a crowed elevator I watched the video :) …just saying what’s the proof that this photo linked above is legit?

Dr Evil on May 15, 2009 at 6:43 PM

Jon is riding two horses with one ass.

RobCon on May 15, 2009 at 6:45 PM

“They were not distributed around the world at the time but are now believed to be among those the president is trying to block.”

That is proof I am supposed to believe anti Bush haters were sitting on photos that could hurt George W Bush and they never circulated them till Obama became President?

This doesn’t smell funny to anyone? 2000 photos who takes 2000 photos of anything let alone prisoners you wouldn’t be that fond of in the first place?

Dr Evil on May 15, 2009 at 6:46 PM

Just want to re-post on of Allah’s quotes:

(the Abu Ghraib pics aren’t related to the CIA program so far as I know, but never mind that)”

Bingo. Left morons like Jon Stewart and my media prof at the UW cannot understand this concept.

nickj116 on May 15, 2009 at 6:46 PM

2000 photos who takes 2000 photos of anything let alone prisoners you wouldn’t be that fond of in the first place?

Dr Evil on May 15, 2009 at 6:46 PM

Wedding Photographers

upinak on May 15, 2009 at 6:46 PM

My post should have said *one and *lefty. My bad for the typo’s.

nickj116 on May 15, 2009 at 6:47 PM

My favorite exchange from the May interview.

Stewart: But isn’t waterboarding torture?
May: It is when the Japanese do it.

Look AllahP. O is doing the right thing…he is taking advice from his military advisors. He said he was going to do that, and he is.
Like Treach says, sometimes the mil expert advice conflicts with the wishes of the liberal base, or with what Obama said before he had access to classified data.
tant pis
I guess you think that since O is superman, he can control what the Aussie media does?
Bite meh.
That was dishonest and unworthy of you.

strangelet on May 15, 2009 at 6:48 PM

These supposed copies of prisoners being abused at abu ghraib are not just blackmail by the ACLU? Toward the Obama administration for not releasing the real photos? This story in the Telegraph- very left leaning, has a lot of problems with the reporting.

Dr Evil on May 15, 2009 at 6:48 PM

Sowwy, Austrie, not Aussie.
;)

strangelet on May 15, 2009 at 6:48 PM

Oh, but they were released thanks to Australian media

Crap that pic could any of my friends after a night partying.

Greed on May 15, 2009 at 6:49 PM

Facts don’t matter to liberals. Only emotions.

jewells45 on May 15, 2009 at 6:49 PM

Thousands of people across the land feel smarter because they watch John Stewart.

But every time I watch even a 5 minute clip from that show, I feel dumber.

myrenovations on May 15, 2009 at 6:49 PM

that was a waste of time except for the bit at the end with the obama sign on the podium with him speaking that said “Yes we can” and had “but that does not necessarily mean we are going to” written in small print under it, talking about dont ask dont tell.

that was kinda funny.

other than that, waste of time.

Joe Caps on May 15, 2009 at 6:50 PM

The president’s change of heart brought bitter criticism from the left wingers and the American Civil Liberties Union, which had brought a freedom of information case against the US government applying to see the pictures.

Pledging to fight the case all the way to the Supreme Court, the ACLU accused him of betraying his principles of open government and “complicity in covering up” the “commission of torture by the Bush administration”. From the Telegraph article…

If the photos are out there like the telegraph claims than the President of the U.S. doesn’t need to release them does he…doesn’t anyone see some ACLU -Obama administration baiting going on here. Those photos are their ticket to show trials they think these are real old photos and I have never heard or read the number 2,000 photos before now.

So does the ACLU really want to take on Rahm Emmanuel? That’s what it comes down to they want to pick this particular fight?

Dr Evil on May 15, 2009 at 6:54 PM

strangelet on May 15, 2009 at 6:48 PM

You racked up your quota of tickets for chasing parked cars again?

News flash dummy – The Japanese did far more than waterboard. Sticking to “the Japanese commited war crimes because they were waterboarding” like stink on shit is beyond ignorant. That is what you liberal morons do. Like Stewart you manage to make absurd cause and effect associations.

jdkchem on May 15, 2009 at 6:57 PM

Kind of funny over at HuffPo. The HUGE headline touts Panetta’s refutation of Pelosi’s charges. Yet not one of the brave HuffPo bloggers has one word to say about the Peoloi/ CiA fued. Not even Auntie Aaaaariana makes mention of the blue on blue battle.

The boss must have sent down the word: stay out of this fued and make it go away.

DrW on May 15, 2009 at 6:58 PM

More torture photo’s…

Firebird on May 15, 2009 at 7:02 PM

The Dems are the party of no torture. They are also the party of sanctioning the practice of one man jamming his erect penis into another man’s anus and ejaculating into it (with, one hopes, no disease transmission)–as a symbol of matrimony that all should accept.

They are the party of transparency except when it comes to revealing their senior leaders in a lie. But if transparency means humiliating the political opposition and putting American lives in danger, so be it, so long as there are no political consequences.

They are the party of the poorly educated youth who would extinguish the second amendment and create a new one that puts a smiley face on abortion and infanticide.

They are the party of comics-as-journalists, where Pulitzer Prizes are awarded for ambush, not for intellect.

They are the party that destroys all that it tries to protect.

EMD on May 15, 2009 at 7:07 PM

John Stewart…on the front line protecting America. Yeah. Sure.

GarandFan on May 15, 2009 at 7:07 PM

Interesting that Stewart chose to femenize a decorated army officer by stereotyping him with that “Chorus Line” joke.
I’m sure Dan Choi appreciates the respect. NOT!

redshirt on May 15, 2009 at 7:07 PM

Credit where it’s due, though: He’s spot on about Dan Choi.

Waaiiit….isn’t Choi a….HOMASHEXUAL???
One of thems that are destroying teh AMERICAN FAMILY with their obscene desire to ….omg……marry???????

strangelet on May 15, 2009 at 7:10 PM

Kind of funny over at HuffPo.

Their feeewings are compwetewy with Nanny Botox, but even idiots like them can see that the facts are completely against her. Solution: close eyes really tight and sing “la-la-la, the country is in the best of hands”.

drunyan8315 on May 15, 2009 at 7:11 PM

Waaiiit….isn’t Choi a….HOMASHEXUAL???
One of thems that are destroying teh AMERICAN FAMILY with their obscene desire to ….omg……marry???????

strangelet on May 15, 2009 at 7:10 PM

You seem fascinated with homosexuality & abortion. HA could post a story on car batteries and you would somehow swing it toward gays or choice arguments. Why is that?

portlandon on May 15, 2009 at 7:15 PM

Bingo. Left morons like Jon Stewart and my media prof at the UW cannot understand this concept.

nickj116 on May 15, 2009 at 6:46 PM

Guess we will find out in court, huh?
Proof by litigation.
Gotta love America…..the only country in the world that could have brought down the pederast priests.
;)

strangelet on May 15, 2009 at 7:19 PM

I guess you think that since O is superman, he can control what the Aussie media does?

I guess you thought since W was superman, he could control what terrorists did in other countries.

Speedwagon82 on May 15, 2009 at 7:25 PM

Looks like the photos have been released in OZ. Perfect. Obama avoids the political fallout of releasing the photos then a “rogue underling” at an arms distance releases them surreptitiously. The best of both worlds.

I’m sure a full investigation will be forthcoming with the full weight and vigor one might expect when the President’s directives are violated.

moxie_neanderthal on May 15, 2009 at 7:26 PM

One picture showed a prisoner hung up upside down while another showed a naked man smeared in excrement standing in a corridor with a guard standing menacingly in front of him. Another prisoner is handcuffed to the window frame of his cell with underpants pulled over his head.

and hooded prisoners on transport planes with Playboy magazines opened to pictures of nude women on their laps.

Sounds like a frat initiation to me.

Darth Executor on May 15, 2009 at 7:27 PM

I think the Cliff May interview really screwed with Stewart’s head. He is used to conservatives being unable to articulate their point of view but May really got the best of him.

Speedwagon82 on May 15, 2009 at 7:28 PM

strangelet on May 15, 2009 at 7:19 PM

How stupid are you? Abu Ghraib and CIA waterboarding are completely unrelated to anyone with a functioning brain. Not surprising that you are too damn ignorant to catch on.

jdkchem on May 15, 2009 at 7:37 PM

Can’t/won’t watch John Stewart.

txag92 on May 15, 2009 at 7:41 PM

I like to see Stewart criticizing Obama. It’s just nice to see. Does my heart good. Of course Stewart politics stink but hey we can agree that Obama is bad for the country! There that.

And that point about not taking pictures of the enhanced interrogations… I’m a bit hazy on the whole keeping record of it… what is the point again? Weird actually.

petunia on May 15, 2009 at 7:47 PM

I prefer Jimmy Stewart.

profitsbeard on May 15, 2009 at 7:50 PM

They’re here, they’re queer. I’m used to it. I think Jon Stuart just put the punctuation mark on Gay Marriage AND Don’t ask don’t tell in one fell swoop.

ronsfi on May 15, 2009 at 8:40 PM

When you get right down to it, Jon Stewart may be on Obamas side and he may even still be a Democrat. But in some perverted way that only a Jewish entertainer who’s nation was attacked by Islamic Fundamentalist can explain, he still thinks we’re the ones who are wrong.

Personnally, I would use a catapult to chuck terrorists throught the goalposts at the Meadowlands if I knew I’d get inforamtion that would stop something like 9-11.

Indignant care trolls in 3, 2, 1….

“We don’t torture in my country….”

hawkdriver on May 15, 2009 at 8:41 PM

through..

hawkdriver on May 15, 2009 at 8:43 PM

Gotta love America…..the only country in the world that could have brought down the pederast priests.
;)
strangelet on May 15, 2009 at 7:19 PM

You do realize that the ACLU defends NAMBLA. And I bet they have lots and lots of photos!

Buy Danish on May 15, 2009 at 8:57 PM

This doesn’t smell funny to anyone? 2000 photos who takes 2000 photos of anything let alone prisoners you wouldn’t be that fond of in the first place?

Dr Evil on May 15, 2009 at 6:46 PM

Certainly not White House photographers. And who can blame them? They just spent over $320,000 of our money on one crappy photo of a plane over New Jersey.

redzap on May 15, 2009 at 9:11 PM

Jon Stewart is so 2002!!

Give me more RED EYE Gutfeld rocks Julie Banderas is HOT andy levy kinkass Bill Schultz disgusts me!

If you all dont agree then you are worse then Hitler LOL

Kevin43 on May 15, 2009 at 11:16 PM

Australian media? Does this our president will now need to learn to speak Australian?

oldleprechaun on May 16, 2009 at 2:02 AM

Jon Stewart is today’s classic voyeur. Not enough excitement in his life. It takes more and more sensational stuff to satisfy.

hopefloats on May 16, 2009 at 2:23 AM

If that pic represents the United States’ version of torture then all they do is demonstrate what a great and compassionate nation we are.

All of those dudes could still walk, run, and learn piano the next day if they wanted to.

pugwriter on May 16, 2009 at 7:16 AM

From the linked McClatchy piece:

“The people who want to express their opinions through violence are already trying their best to do so,” Obaidi said. “Showing them a few pictures wouldn’t make them any more able to do it.”

I don’t think the concerns are, necessarily, on the ground in Iraq, but the ability of our foes, our enemies, to use these pictures against us (as they use our media-depicted debauchery against us).

…Credit where it’s due, though: He’s spot on about Dan Choi.

Say you’re a guy. And you’re in the group shower with a guy who is attracted to, and likes to have sex with, other guys. Wouldn’t bother you, would it? After all, it’s just as innocent and healthy as having a guy who likes gals in the gal’s group shower. Nothing creepy in that, is there?
You can’t just think of the military as a “job.” It puts you in situations normal jobs don’t put you.

Dan. on May 16, 2009 at 7:48 AM

The last 10 seconds says it all. Say what you want where you want and change it later.

MSGTAS on May 16, 2009 at 10:12 AM

Agree or disagree with the enhanced interrogations, but at least those brilliant pundits should keep their facts straight. Jon seems to think the pictures are of the enhanced interrogations by the CIA, when they are evidence of the actions by our military personnel that we prosecuted them for because they violated the Army Field Manual or worse. I have yelled at my TV so many times over this misuse of facts I suppose by blood pressure is off the chart. Just give me the facts not spin, darn it.

amr on May 16, 2009 at 10:45 AM

Oh, as to the Japanese doing waterboarding and being executed for it. That was not all they did and I suspect they did not have a doctor present and have limits on the procedure. BTW, the “hundreds of waterboardings” that the MSM reports on is inaccurate. That represents the number of times water was poured on the individual during a waterboarding. As one said, he was waterboarder 5 times (but may have had water poured on him dozens of times-amr). But why should we take the word of a terrorist, right. And as has been reported, during SERE training these techniques are used and that was part of the basis for doing them to the terrorists. The reports about SERE training do not indicate that the precautions we used for the terrorists are used during SERE training. Also the BS about if we “torture” our POWs will be placed at risk; well during and since WWII only the German and Italian professional military treated our POWs as is required by international accords. That was 3 wars ago.

amr on May 16, 2009 at 11:03 AM

Who is this long-faced idiot, anyway?

MaiDee on May 16, 2009 at 11:15 AM

BTW the Japanese didn’t do waterboarding. Instead they shoved a hose down a victim’s throat and poured in water until the intestines and stomach bloated and then popped them like a child would pop a balloon. Slightly different, don’t you think?

MaiDee on May 16, 2009 at 11:19 AM