Comments on: Poll of GOP “insiders”: Palin ties for seventh as pol with brightest future

By: Hot Air » Blog Archive » Poll of GOP “insiders”: It’s time for Palin to go away

Fri, 11 Dec 2009 23:54:50 +0000

[...] Beck, among others. These insiders are the same people, mind you, who earlier this year voted her seventh among Republican governors with the brightest political future (Mark Sanford was fifth). No wonder [...]

By: Hot Air » Blog Archive » GOP “insiders”: Palin will be a campaign asset next year

Fri, 17 Jul 2009 22:10:06 +0000

[...] of her alienating urban undecideds. Which I guess explains how the same “insiders” who ranked her seventh as a potential nominee a few months ago could be gung ho to have her out on the trail in House and [...]

By: Hot Air » Blog Archive » Heart-ache: Palin snubs Washington insiders after GOP dinner

Tue, 09 Jun 2009 21:35:14 +0000

[...] I wonder why. Might it be because they dump on her at every opportunity, from lowballing her in insider polls of presidential prospects to sneering at her anonymously about her lack of gravitas? To wit: [...]

By: Hot Air » Blog Archive » Huntsman advisor: We’re doomed in 2012 if Palin’s a major player in the GOP

Mon, 18 May 2009 23:39:52 +0000

[...] the man who brought you John McCain. And before you ask, yes, he was indeed one of the Republican “insiders” who contributed to that National Journal poll declaring her future dead in the water. The [...]

By: hogfat

hogfat — Mon, 18 May 2009 12:23:54 +0000

Farewell? Yeah, farewell to the GOP. When a rino like Charlie Crist gets 13% of the insiders votes to be 4th place, you know it’s over. No, wait, when a rino like McCain gets the nomination, you know it’s over.

By: Bradky

Bradky — Mon, 18 May 2009 03:35:57 +0000

She DOES run a state though, a really big one, with huge resources and international commerce.

It doesn’t even have a million residents — only big in terms of geography. Please – Rhode Island has double the population.
Stop the Paliniacs from harming themselves with their mental pretzel logic. Alaska is big so Palin is a heavyweight governor….

By: Norwegian

Norwegian — Sun, 17 May 2009 23:49:19 +0000

The only way this would have impacted my support of Palin was if this poll of “GOP insiders” had endorsed Palin. That would have been a warning sign, as I detest “GOP Insiders” as much as do Obama & Pelosi.

Try a poll of Conservatives instead…

By: karasoth

karasoth — Sun, 17 May 2009 15:39:49 +0000

And again of the Insider list

its like the bloggers… only a handful of insiders people know

By: unclesmrgol

unclesmrgol — Sun, 17 May 2009 14:16:04 +0000

Before we go any further with this, look at the names at the bottom and tell me how many you recognized as an “elite” within the Republican party?

Of far more interest is the clickthrough to the bloggers. Again, no recognizable names, but a completely different result — except for the top, where Jindal still leads. What’s even more amusing is that Ahnold makes it onto both lists.

Huntsman is the sad case. By taking a job with the Obama Administration, he’s tainted himself. Just like I wouldn’t buy a Government Motors car, I won’t be buying anyone who served a man who destroyed our economic base.

By: Fortunata

Fortunata — Sun, 17 May 2009 04:01:03 +0000

Let her build up a good record as governor first. Maybe even two terms. Then the MSM will have a harder time pulling her down on the hillbilly stuff.

By: cs89

cs89 — Sat, 16 May 2009 23:05:05 +0000

AnninCA on May 16, 2009 at 2:48 PM

McCain got a big fundraising bump when she was announced as VP candidate, and she did help with a few fundraisers. It’s hard to know how much she could have contributed due to the schedule- McCain/Palin staff pulled her off the fundraising schedule at one point to prepare for her debate and accompany McCain to stops (at least one article noted she helped draw a “buzz” to McCain rallies) and McCain took the public funds soon after she joined the campaign, which complicated the fundraising procedures at that point.

She seems to be a good fundraiser from what I’ve seen. We’ll see how Sarahpac & the Legal Defense fund do when they release reports.

By: Daemonocracy

Daemonocracy — Sat, 16 May 2009 22:38:01 +0000

Well usually these insiders know nothing, but in looking at this poll I can’t say I disagree with it too much considering Jindal and Barbour are at the top. Two solid Conservatives right there.

By: callingallcomets

callingallcomets — Sat, 16 May 2009 22:23:12 +0000

Since the Alfalfa Dinner she has only been out of state once. She has hardly done any national media appearances. Most of the msm continue to mock and belittle her. The GOP establishment consistently either ignore her or treat her with disdain (except Steele). AP constantly tells us she is irrelevant.
Yet she goes to Evansville to make a pro life speech (turning down the local offer of a Sarahpac fundraiser) and sells out so well they have to have an overflow hall and the police have to close the streets – then she goes back to her Alaskan exile. When will it be grasped that Palin is a totally different politics? She does not fit into the standard pattern. She is unique. She has a huge army of devoted supporters as part of a genuine bottom up movement that has been absolutely spontaneous. It has not been astro turfed by someone like Axelrod. It has not been financed by a personal fortune like Romney.
Palin has no need of courting the GOP Insiders and they know it. In politics, like sport or show business one sure sign of strength is the ability to fill a hall or a stadium. Palin has that strength in spades. You wont find a Frum or a Brooks there or an AP. But you will find thousands of ordinary people there – and most of them wont be wingnuts or political junkies or even subgroups of the conservative tribes that flourish here (fiscal, social, pro life, Ron Paul..) a lot of them will not even be politically active. But they will connect with this woman more than any other politician.
Who knows if she wants to be President? Nobody yet. But even if she does not she will remain a force in the GOP. Or put it another way – if you were an aspiring GOP politician whose endorsement would you welcome most? A GOP “insider”? Allahpundit? Sarah Palin?
I rest my case.

By: karasoth

karasoth — Sat, 16 May 2009 19:08:32 +0000

The money raised by McCain, jmell, wasn’t all that impressive. He was hurting for even media dollars in key states.

AnninCA on May 16, 2009 at 2:48 PM

You are correct about McCain, but then there was noone else in the Republican primary who was “impressive” either. There were many of the big donors who simply sat out last cycle with their disillusionment with Republican leaders. But you better believe that had someone else set the world on fire with their fundraising efforts…John McCain would not have been our pathetic nominee.

jmell7 on May 16, 2009 at 3:06 PM

Pretty much this. The folks who donated to the GOP have been pissed off in 06 and 08 and may be pissed off in 10

By: jmell7

jmell7 — Sat, 16 May 2009 19:06:26 +0000

The money raised by McCain, jmell, wasn’t all that impressive. He was hurting for even media dollars in key states.

AnninCA on May 16, 2009 at 2:48 PM

You are correct about McCain, but then there was noone else in the Republican primary who was “impressive” either. There were many of the big donors who simply sat out last cycle with their disillusionment with Republican leaders. But you better believe that had someone else set the world on fire with their fundraising efforts…John McCain would not have been our pathetic nominee.

By: AnninCA

AnninCA — Sat, 16 May 2009 18:48:13 +0000

The money raised by McCain, jmell, wasn’t all that impressive.

He was hurting for even media dollars in key states.

By: jmell7

jmell7 — Sat, 16 May 2009 18:09:00 +0000

Another day, another Alluhamateurism. Being a Republican fundraiser for over 30 years I can tell you one undisputed fact…power is not where the “insiders” are, but rather where the money is. If Palin outraises all comers, believe me the “insiders” will fall all over themselves to tie themselves to her. This poll and Alluh’s comments are amateurish at best.

By: AnninCA

AnninCA — Sat, 16 May 2009 17:44:04 +0000

Sarah Palin is, by my estimation, serious about politics. She’s really protecting herself after a brutal campaign. I noted how Todd handled the questions in one interview by saying, “This isn’t our first trip around the block.”

Her book deal convinced me. She’s going to make a move, in her own time.

She has all GOP contenders nervous, naturally. She’s a natural campaigner, truly gifted.

Whether that translates to growing the base? We’ll see.

By: AnninCA

AnninCA — Sat, 16 May 2009 17:41:40 +0000

rsl…….I totally agree.

By: entagor

entagor — Sat, 16 May 2009 17:18:59 +0000

karasoth on May 16, 2009 at 12:22 PM

Good post

Remember when a political party was a voluntary assembly come together for somewhat common purpose?

THe PR campaign continues. Redefining the Republican Party every which way to create an impression there is a concensus

It used to be done at conventions when folk used numbers of delegates (and bribes, blackmail and motel photos) to convince delegates to join the consensus.

The last election, both parties wanted consensus before the election began, and the pre packaged ad agency videos were played full blast for the pre picked stooges

The GOP had a problem however, because the conservative voters did not obey and libs had a better liberal candidate. Bring on more ads. Leak more polls. Create a consensus and one day conservatives will accept their new ideals because it came from outside themselves and that is where all ideas begin

By: mcassill

mcassill — Sat, 16 May 2009 16:34:58 +0000

Further proof that we need to clean house of “GOP elites”.

By: karasoth

karasoth — Sat, 16 May 2009 16:22:59 +0000

Talking about this poll fails

the failure of the poll…. let me show it to you.

This poll was done with BLOGGERS (not party insiders). The BLOGGERS in Bold are people I have no idea who the fuck they are

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BLOGGERS POLL
Cheney Leaves Left And Right Divided Again
Political Bloggers Split On Former VP’s Value To GOP; Jindal, Schweitzer And Granholm Lead List Of Governors With Brightest Futures

Thursday, May 14, 2009

Click here to see how National Journal’s Political Insiders responded to these questions.

Left-leaning bloggers:

Sean-Paul Kelley, The Agonist; David Kravitz, Blue Mass. Group; Brian Leubitz, Calitics; Greg Dworkin, Daily Kos; Howie Klein, Down With Tyranny!; Cheryl Contee, Jack And Jill Politics; Robert Farley, Lawyers, Guns And Money; Barbara O’Brien, The Mahablog; Taylor Marsh; Ellen Brodsky, News Hounds; Chris Bowers, Open Left; Mark Kleiman, The Reality-Based Community; Tracy Viselli, Reno And Its Discontents; Lee Papa, The Rude Pundit; Matt L. Barron, RuralVotes; Susie Madrak, Suburban Guerrilla; David NYC, Swing State Project; Big Tent Democrat, TalkLeft

Right-leaning bloggers:

Dan McLaughlin, Baseball Crank; J.R. Hoeft, Bearing Drift; Betsy Newmark, Betsy’s Page; Bookworm, Bookworm Room; D.S. Hube, The Colossus Of Rhodey; Doug Lambert, GraniteGrok; Robert Miller, JoshuaPundit; Soren Dayton, The Next Right; Jon Henke, The Next Right; Walter Olson, Overlawyered; Steven Taylor, PoliBlog; Michael van der Galien, PoliGazette; Debbie Hamilton, Right Truth; Rob Port, Say Anything; David Gerstman, Soccer Dad; Martin Solomon, Solomonia; David Kopel, The Volokh Conspiracy

So…. a HANDFUL of Blogers people actually read and other then Henke, Dayton, Hamilton,and Dworkin no one with anything resembling a large scale readership.

If this poll say involved folks like Instapundit or Michelle Malkin or Ace or hell Pat Hynes. Bloggers that are politically connected AND have decent readership we might have something useful

By: rsl775

rsl775 — Sat, 16 May 2009 15:48:50 +0000

Governor Palin entered the big time political scene unknown and as an enemy to an historic event. A black President was the most important thing this nation could accomplish to begin atonement for a failed national history and the “ONE” had come” and with the “ONE” hope and change. What hope and change was nobody knew and nobody cared it sounded great. Nothing was going to interfere with this. Especially a qualified woman Republican Vice President! She became a threat even at the Vice President level. She must be introduced as an incompetenet and totally demeaned by the MSM and the liberal community to the extent that she will be damaged beyond repair forever and ever. The Republican Presidential candidate was not a factor he was a loser right out of the shoot and by far not the most qualified and competent candidate that could have been. Besides, hate Bush was enough to turn voters away. In addition his age made it certain he would die in office and then this woman would become the President raising a fear flag. No this person could not be one heartbeat away ever!
She will be redeemable only if Obama is a total failure in the first four years and Obama supporters understand what they did and change their ways. Part of changing their ways would be to confess what they did to Governor Palin and say they were wrong. The probability of this occurring is somewhere near zero. The Republicans have no face on the horizon that can change the direction. It is Obama’s to lose.

By: modifiedcontent

modifiedcontent — Sat, 16 May 2009 15:30:44 +0000

Thaddeus McCotter 2012

By: Dr. ZhivBlago

Dr. ZhivBlago — Sat, 16 May 2009 14:53:15 +0000

Utah governor Huntsman 6%…

HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA

So much for wisdom you Beltway insider, RINO knuckleheads!!!