Pathetic: Pelosi plays down CIA criticism, blames Bush instead
posted at 7:07 pm on May 15, 2009 by Allahpundit
After a week of increasingly desperate, cowardly excuses, she saved the best for last. Mind-boggling.
“We all share great respect for the dedicated men and women of the intelligence community who are deeply committed to the safety and security of the American people,” she said in a statement issued by her office. “My criticism of the manner in which the Bush Administration did not appropriately inform Congress is separate from my respect for those in the intelligence community who work to keep our country safe.
“What is important now is to be united in our commitment to ensuring the security of our country; that, and how Congress exercises its oversight responsibilities, will continue to be my focus as we move forward.”
I don’t know what she could possibly mean by this after yesterday’s “the CIA misleads us all the time” sandbagging unless she’s now accusing Team Bush of pulling aside the agents in charge of briefings and ordering them to lie. Which is insane given that (a) by her own admission, agents did brief Congress about waterboarding Abu Zubaydah by early 2003; (b) in the political climate of the time, with Democrats gung ho to prove their “toughness” on terrorism, Bush had less to fear that they’d be squeamish about waterboarding if he told them than that they’d be enraged if he didn’t tell them because he thought they might be squeamish; and (c) according to Pelosi’s logic here, if this is all just another of the Bushitler’s conspiracies, then her failure to mention it until now means she’s been essentially covering for George Bush.
I don’t think she’s accusing Bush of anything here, actually. This statement is no more or less than her way of waving the white flag, eating her words about the CIA before she does any more damage or stumbles into any more idiotic non sequiturs about creating jobs in response to torture queries, and mindlessly dumping the whole thing in the lap of the left’s all-purpose villain. She gives up. It’s all Bush’s fault, even if it isn’t. No further questions, please.
At least Steny Hoyer claims to believe her now, even if the White House doesn’t. Needless to say, the longer this drags out, the more reminiscent it is of the Democrats’ turn on Iraq. When Pelosi had an opportunity to act and stop something she (supposedly) thought was wrong, she kept her mouth shut good and tight lest it jeopardize the party’s chances at the polls in a time of war. Now, after the die is cast, she wants truth commissions and investigations and tribunals to purge the guilt and please her base. Too bad the left is so stridently opposed to “preemptive” action; it would have saved them a lot of grief six years ago.










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Fred Sanford: Who is it?
Nancy Pelosi: It’s Nancy!
Fred Sanford: Nancy who?
Nancy Pelosi: You know Nancy who! Open this door fool!
Fred Sanford: I can’t open the door!
Nancy Pelosi: Why not?
Fred Sanford: You too stupid and too ugly!
Nancy Peolsi: But Fred, I need your help.
Fred Sanford: But, Nancy, I’m a junkman, not a brain surgeon or a plastic surgeon.
MB4 on May 15, 2009 at 8:55 PM
Another day, another story. We can smell her BS way out in San Francisco. We will be waiting in 2010 to let her know what we think of her lies and extreme partisanship…..
DL13 on May 15, 2009 at 8:55 PM
I think the reporters that have the nads to do so ought to question her even more deeply, longer, and loudly about it now to the point where she runs shrieking from the room and dodges cameras at every turn.
She’s a psycho bytch, she should be treated as such. She doesn’t have any more respect for the CIA let alone the American people than she has for the puppies and kittens she slaughters ruthlessly for breakfast every morning.
Spiritk9 on May 15, 2009 at 8:59 PM
Just Say No to Nancy
Del Dolemonte on May 15, 2009 at 9:12 PM
Nothing will happen to Madame Speaker, she will survive this with a few dents and scratches, as with Harry (the war is lost and what real estate deal) Reid the liberals are afforded protection by the bought and paid for media. We are living in a world of duplicity and dishonesty created and fostered by the media; these propagandists are the true enemy of the state. When the chaos starts I pray the MSM elitist lying sacks-o-manure are amongst the 1st to be harshly dealt with.
dmann on May 15, 2009 at 9:15 PM
Or rather, truth omissions.
ThePrez on May 15, 2009 at 9:18 PM
Nancy Pelosi isn’t going anywhere, lies or no lies, until Obama says so. If he wants her to stay she’s staying and there is absolutely nothing anyone can do about that.
When Obama gives the word this tempest in a teapot will end immediately. Every Dem and major newspaper will start the pr campaign that makes this go away. If he gives thumbs down she’ll be gone within a week.
Figuring out what Obama wants is the secret.
patrick neid on May 15, 2009 at 9:27 PM
George Bush is no longer the whipping boy, he is also did not make her lie her butt off in the last few days. She needs to pack her bags and leave office.
workingforpigs on May 15, 2009 at 9:35 PM
I wonder if Nancy gets whiplash as she shifts so quickly from one transparently false cover story to the next?
C’mon all you spooks — you’re not going to let this corrupt pol get away with standing in front of the nation and calling you all a bunch of liars and criminals, are you? Sic her, spooks, sic her!
AZCoyote on May 15, 2009 at 9:35 PM
She does however take the attention off of how our commander and CEO of the auto industry is running the industry into the ground………. sure have less cars available by not having dealerships is a real genious way to sell more cars. How about fixing the mess at the banks so people can get loans to actually buy cars, now that would make far more sense.. This administration can’t manage anything, the auto industry is just the start of what they will completely ruin.
workingforpigs on May 15, 2009 at 9:38 PM
How many different versions can Pelosi come up with before her credibility is crap even for Democrats? I’m willing to bet that she will be replaced as Speaker very soon.
The CIA has ways of getting even that will make cheap Chicago style Emanuel’s bag of tricks look like a Church picnic.
old trooper2 on May 15, 2009 at 9:41 PM
“I’m ready for my close-up now, Mr. DeMille!”
rockmom on May 15, 2009 at 9:43 PM
LMAO! at the thought of Meme reading this comment and recoiling with horror regarding the comparison. THIS IS A HOOT! Thanks for the chuckle!
The “It was BOOOOOOSHH’s fault!” mantra is sooooooo old and cold. The Dems are beginning to look like minor birds or deranged parrots at this point!
freeus on May 15, 2009 at 9:54 PM
Think about this.
No really, THINK ABOUT IT:
How LONG has Nancy Pelosi & the Democrats been beating up Bush and Cheney and the Republican Party on waterboarding?
Hmmmmm.
Lemme check.
Why…………..yes! I have it right here! 2005.
In 2005, Nancy and Friends claimed to suddenly ‘discover’ that waterboarding had gone on….and then proceeded to spend the next 3 years beating the Bush Administration over the head over this while claiming to be shocked…….SHOCKED….to discover this waterboarding business had gone on.
And it’s now pretty well established due to the release of the EIT briefing logs that Nancy & Co. didn’t find out about this waterboarding stuff in 2005; they all knew since 2002 or 2003 at the latest.
Does that pretty much sum up what happened?
Oh it DOES?
OK then…..here comes the punchline.
Bush and Cheney….while they were getting beat up publicly for over 2 years…….KNEW THAT NANCY AND THE DEMS WERE LYING ABOUT WHEN THEY FOUND OUT ABOUT WATERBOARDING.
And guess what?
Instead of shutting up Nancy Pelosi and all the Democrats relentlessly attacking them for over two years by LEAKING THE CIA EIT BRIEFING LOGS AND MINUTES THEMSELVES, they kept their mouths shut.
In other words, Bush and Cheney put the country FIRST and weathered these politically motivated attacks rather than leak this stuff.
Think about that. Bush could have shut this harridan up in 2005 if he’d wanted to. One simple leak would have done it.
Why did nothing leak?
Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm???
manofaiki on May 15, 2009 at 10:02 PM
Must be especially clammy in Bela Pelosi’s crypt tonight…
ronsfi on May 15, 2009 at 10:06 PM
Kryptonite heh.
ronsfi on May 15, 2009 at 10:08 PM
Great post.
Too bad it doesn’t translate into a soundbyte that the masses can gobble up like “b-b-b-bbbbbutttt BOOOOOSSHHHH!”
wv619 on May 15, 2009 at 10:21 PM
No, this is getalife’s mommy.
Knucklehead on May 15, 2009 at 10:30 PM
I predict she’ll be on the Larry King Show as soon as she possibly can. It’s one of the lib’s moves when they’re pinned in a corner for lying. Larry King will be sympathetic to her cause.
Travis1 on May 15, 2009 at 10:41 PM
I wonder what our resident under-the-bridge dwellers think about this?
Strange, on the sites I visit who have these sorts of threads up, the trolls are absent. Ax hasn’t told you what to say yet, people?
TeeDee on May 15, 2009 at 10:46 PM
What is really scary is that there are still many Donks who support Pelosi. A pox on them all.
Geochelone on May 15, 2009 at 10:49 PM
That’s right, Nan… Bring Bush back into the spotlight. That’s how you er got here in the first place…
Upstater85 on May 15, 2009 at 10:58 PM
Dear goopers, isn’t it nice that Newt is calling for Pelosi to step down. The same guy who demanded Bill Clinton step down, and then led impeachment proceeding against him, WHILE AT THE SAME TIME WAS HAVING AN AFFAIR WITH CALISTA. Are all goopers slimeballs? Whether Pelosi knew about waterboarding or not, has nothing to do with the war criminals Bush and Cheney. They both belong in prison. Hope your side loves being in the political wilderness, because thats where you’ll be spending the next decade. Some of you even call yourselves Christians. I’m sure Jesus would approve of torture. You people disgust me.
athensboy on May 15, 2009 at 10:58 PM
Still trying to figure out who Pelionosi is going to blame next…
Upstater85 on May 15, 2009 at 10:59 PM
Pelosi Lied. People Died
Maybe if I say it over and over, I can convince myself… it seems to work for the Stranges of this world…
Upstater85 on May 15, 2009 at 11:01 PM
The end of Pelosi’s press release was cut off..it ended with
The_Lid on May 15, 2009 at 11:06 PM
Vice President Cheney served at the pleasure of President George W. Bush……….
…….. who put the security and national interest above politics to his own peril.
Now that Vice President Cheney is a private citizen……..
…….. he can take the gloves, and I for one, am glad he is.
Seven Percent Solution on May 15, 2009 at 11:08 PM
Hey Athensboy what would Jesus think of the Muslim terrorists? First they don’t refer to Him as God and then they go out and kill and kill and kill. Besides whats the first step to being a Christian Athensboy? You would have put Bush and Cheney in jail if they hadn’t stopped a major terrorist attack if they didn’t use all the methods that they have used. You seem to look forward to having an attack by your attitude.
garydt on May 15, 2009 at 11:08 PM
Get your facts straight first, little red hen, then you can distort them later.
MB4 on May 15, 2009 at 11:12 PM
We live in a house of lies, and Nancy is the madam.
Dhuka on May 15, 2009 at 11:18 PM
So did Nancy Pelosi and lots more of your saintly Democrats. Which, um, makes them war criminals too. That’s, um, sorta the point, ya know? I know it might be tough sometimes for Obama voters to follow along…
ddrintn on May 15, 2009 at 11:19 PM
Yes. Thanks for asking.
Yes. That’s why we love Newt, he got the serial rapist impeached for lying under oath, obstruction of justice and disbarrment and more.
Pelosi is a disgusting liar. She disses CIA to CYA.
Geochelone on May 15, 2009 at 11:19 PM
Bah Bah BAHNA…
You know you want to hear it.
Saltysam on May 15, 2009 at 11:20 PM
I can’t wait until tomorrow’s press briefing:
Pelosi: “I have absolute proof that I knew nothing about waterboarding!”
Press: “Where is it?”
Pelosi: “By mistake I unfortunately left it in an Hawaiian time-locked vault. And I’m told it won’t open for eight years.”
Press: “What were you doing poking around in an Hawaiian vault?”
Pelosi: “I was checking out Obama’s birth certificate.”
Press” “Did you see it?”
Pelosi: “Yes, I did. No, I didn’t. I’m not sure. Someone apparently said ‘George Bush’ and that’s all I remember.”
Press: “Madam Speaker, please. . . that story is awfully hard to swallow.”
Pelsoi: “How dare you question me? My reputation for honesty and integrity is unquestioned!”
Press: “What proof do you have?”
Pelosi: “Just ask John Murtha.”
Dr. Charles G. Waugh on May 15, 2009 at 11:22 PM
Jesus does not approve of torture. That is why he sends liars to hell so the devil can do it.
Geochelone on May 15, 2009 at 11:24 PM
Picture perfect!
Loxodonta on May 15, 2009 at 11:24 PM
Book ‘er, Dan-o…
Saltysam on May 15, 2009 at 11:27 PM
Too bad she issued this in a press release; I would have loved to have watched her read this statement live at another press conference.
yogi41 on May 15, 2009 at 11:43 PM
I’d love to see her have to do it under oath under the bright lights, a la Oliver North. Talk about comedy gold…
ddrintn on May 15, 2009 at 11:47 PM
I have enjoyed watching Pelosi thrash about while she sinks deeper into the quagmire with every twitching stitch in her face.
Geochelone on May 15, 2009 at 11:50 PM
From what I’ve seen on the Lefty Dribble Blogs, Nancy did not lie. She did not know about this. Panetta is lying. She couldn’t say she knew about this because she took an oath to not divulge classified information. All in the same post…
Now, let’s go after Bush and release those memos!
Upstater85 on May 15, 2009 at 11:51 PM
athensboy:
Before I begin, I would like to point out that I am STILL waiting on that response from you.
Being a juvenile knave is hardly convincing.
Yes, it is.
.
And where did Newt PERJURE Himself on that issue?
The fact is that, if he did so, he too would deserve impeachment and persecution.
As Clinton did.
While I do find it unsettling, the bottom line is that if the SOB didn’t LIE about what he was doing, we wouldn’t have pressed charges.
Did the Germans win WWII?
Yes it does.
It reveals the hypocrisy of Pelosi’s moral bleating while at the same time reinforcing the fact that Bush and Cheney ran this war in accordance with the previously accepted protocols from WWI, WWII, and the Civil War.
Good idea…
Oh wait, I thought you were talking about Clinton and Pelosi.
So, idiot, if Bush and Cheney deserve to go to prison, than do Lincoln, Wilson, FDR, Truman, or CLINTON (for war crimes from Kosovo and Bosnia, as opposed to perjury)?
We might. It means WE get to shoot from the rim for once while it provides an excellent oppertunity to cut dead skin off of the Elephant.
Like the Dems did after the Reagan Revolution or the 2000 election?
I don’t know. The scriptures occasionally send contradictory messages (but than again, I am the Deist nonbeliever), so I will leave it up to those who know their Bible.
And since you have proven to be a juvenile idiot with the moral compass that is so utterly broken that you will support AQ as it lops the heads of innocent hostages while condemning Bush and Cheney as war criminals, forgive me if your “judgment” matters not a damn to me.
Ultimately, we are what stands between you and a cold blade to the neck.
The least you could do is stop making an a$$ out of yourself.
Turtler on May 15, 2009 at 11:52 PM
I don’t think their are enough doctors to spin this.
Maybe she will blame it all on the brain tumor that Bush gave her?
izoneguy on May 15, 2009 at 11:52 PM
Let’s be nice to her. Let’s let her confess on The Daily Show… It would be like leftist vs. leftist… Stewart would have to go after her or he wouldn’t be able to blather on and on about torture…
Speaking of confessions… I wonder if she’s gone to her priest to confess about lying…
Upstater85 on May 15, 2009 at 11:53 PM
Unfortunately for Pelosi, Elizabeth Edwards is the current on demand woman who knew the truth but pretended she didn’t for the left… I don’t think she’ll get her day on Oprah…
Upstater85 on May 15, 2009 at 11:56 PM
Getalife has two mommies?
One of them must be a San Francisco treat.
onlineanalyst on May 15, 2009 at 11:56 PM
I really doubt that’s her most serious sin. For example, I’d like to know how she and her parish priest deal with the abortion issue.
Loxodonta on May 15, 2009 at 11:57 PM
So, Congressman Hoyer, you belive Namcy Pelosi. So you belive Leon Panetta is a liar and the you agree that the CIA misled congress.
DamnCat on May 16, 2009 at 12:03 AM
Hey Lox,
Yeah, I agree. I guess I was being sarcastic. I really struggle believing that she even talks to her priest. What would they have in common? That would be one awkward conversation. Kind of like Jenkins meeting with the Pope.
…This from a non-Catholic. Catholics like Nancy disgust me. They tarnish the name.
Upstater85 on May 16, 2009 at 12:03 AM
haha +100
I don’t think Pelosi is going to be at any Press Conferences in the near future (Plastic or not)
Upstater85 on May 16, 2009 at 12:15 AM
I tried responding, but my post is either being moderated or has been vaporized. Anyway, there’s nothing wrong with your sarcasm. And you don’t have to be Catholic to criticize a Catholic. If you are wrong, we must forgive you. If you are right, we simply feel a bit more guilty than usual.
Loxodonta on May 16, 2009 at 12:26 AM
Yeah, I’ve had that happen to me before to.
Well, Lox, I really wasn’t trying to bash Catholicism. I am disturbed though by the social/cultural Catholic. In general, I respect many of the leaders in the Catholic Church and even most of the tenets.
I probably shouldn’t single out just Catholics.
There are also cultural Jews, cultural Protestants, and soon cultural Evangelicals.
Upstater85 on May 16, 2009 at 12:34 AM
And worst of all: the cultural culturalists. Bad cult them.
Loxodonta on May 16, 2009 at 12:38 AM
That was amazing! I don’t think I’ve even seen so many irrelevant and illogical points made in one paragraph. Good job! Now, care to make a salient point about the specific topic?
Fed45 on May 16, 2009 at 12:39 AM
Yes, me thinks Pelosi would fit better in this group.
Upstater85 on May 16, 2009 at 12:42 AM
Keep talking, Nancy. Keep flapping those mutilated lips all the way to the election.
Jim Treacher on May 16, 2009 at 1:09 AM
Do you believe in Jesus?
Johan Klaus on May 16, 2009 at 1:21 AM
Waiting for Axelrod to see what the answer du jour should be…
Upstater85 on May 16, 2009 at 1:24 AM
Your ship is sinking old woman. They will simply replace her with another liberal windbag though.
tx2654 on May 16, 2009 at 2:25 AM
“Pathetic”, yes. However the word to describe this should’ve been, “inevitable”. WE all knew it would come to this eventually.
Yakko77 on May 16, 2009 at 2:54 AM
*looks left*
*looks right*
*looks up*
*looks down*
What jobs?
Sharke on May 16, 2009 at 4:21 AM
The jobs they pull out of thin air and claim they “saved” through destructive and unsustainable (Obama’s own word for it now) spending of course while blaming Bush for everything that goes wrong because of it.
Silly. Aren’t you paying attention?
Yakko77 on May 16, 2009 at 5:11 AM
AP,
Insane you say? You know what is truly insane? Nancy Pelosi will pay no political price for this pathethic episode. She will be re-elected and will remain the Speaker of the House.
That is what is insane.
mountainmanbob on May 16, 2009 at 6:53 AM
Gores 9/23/02 speech against the idea of the Iraq War (which wouldn’t happen for another half year), was one of the turning points in this nation’s history! It is THE moment when it became PC to attack the Bush Admin over Iraq rather than just fringe or campaigning.
scottm on May 16, 2009 at 7:04 AM
Anyone wanting a timeline that shows what Dems knew what before in fall 02…please email me at smalensek@neo.rr.com
I took all the quotes the Dems complained about in the Sen Intel Com prewar Iraq intel investigation, put em on an excel spreadsheet by date, then added the dates all the various intel and NIE reports came out as well as the dates of all the closed door meetings w intel officials. Dems knew. Press is just too lazy to look at things on a timeline.
They knew about torture, and they knew about Iraq intel (though I suspect many weren’t going to briefings, thus didn’t know, but are more correctly described as having been responsible for knowing-kinda like a student is responsible for knowing what went on in class when thsy skip).
scottm on May 16, 2009 at 7:08 AM
Granny Botox is an excellent example of the group of simpletons that she represents. Imagine a conservative lying through their teeth and endangering national security. They would immediately be jettisoned out of the party. Nan makes up a new lie today to cover for the one she told yesterday and the morons who vote for people like her are still blaming Bush, or global warming or something.
When you listen to that woman you have to scratch your head and ask, how is it that this idiot is the leader of the House of Representatives? Then, you look at Reid, Murtha, Kerry, Feinstein, Waxman, Frank, Dodd, Shumer, Kennedy and their ilk and you know why this country is in so much trouble.
orlandocajun on May 16, 2009 at 7:22 AM
Pelosi is a disgusting lying slug with no morals, no courage and no sense.
rplat on May 16, 2009 at 7:42 AM
Not true. They also care about your money. Well, about grabbing as much of it as they can.
soundingboard on May 16, 2009 at 8:02 AM
Using Biden’s “new math” I’ve determined that (despite not being in power at all) the Republicans have “SAVED” over 150million jobs this year alone.
scottm on May 16, 2009 at 8:37 AM
It is time to strike while the iron is hot because the future of the country is now at stake. Anyone who comes to the dithering liars defense needs to have the spotlight turned on them. We all know democrats are by nature and necessity corrupt, if they want to put themselves out there in an undefensible situation then we have to take advantage of it.
peacenprosperity on May 16, 2009 at 8:42 AM
I hope she continues to explain herself. Or rather tries to explain herself it’s really entertaining. I love the way she speaks always gasping for air when asked a tough question. As if she’s shocked mind you shocked that one would imply impropriety on her part. So entertaining.
Knuterockne on May 16, 2009 at 9:20 AM
C’mon now people, give Nancy a break. She had to lie y’know…it’s for the children.
Trafalgar on May 16, 2009 at 9:31 AM
This would be pathetic behavior from an admin assistant.
That it’s coming from the Speaker of the House is just black comedy.
Every time that I think that the absolutely worthless, corrupt and incompetent Democrat Party can’t possibly sink any lower, they surprise me and do so.
If this childlike idiot is one of their shining stars, how bad is the supporting cast?
NoDonkey on May 16, 2009 at 9:33 AM
Peloser insults the intelligence of human scum. When democrats have leadership as corrupt as this example of human drivel, what does it say about those she leads? With her , Reid, Holder, Biden, Riggs and Napolitano, we have without doubt, the most corrupt incompetent administration in our hustory.
volsense on May 16, 2009 at 9:36 AM
What a low life.
dogsoldier on May 16, 2009 at 9:37 AM
Actually all President Bush need do is say:
“We sent the CIA to Congress to brief them on the subject, as they are the experts. I assume members of Congress paid attention…”
Simple, short, sweet. Also accurate from what I’ve seen of the way these things go. The Executive Branch delegates people to inform Congress from the various parts of government… that *is* getting information the White House wants you to have, as well as being an obligation. She wanted some other set of briefings? With the experts sent to tell her about it?
Say what?
ajacksonian on May 16, 2009 at 9:42 AM
What would Nancy say if she came clean?
“No one told me I had to lead. I thought I could just listen while other people made hard decisions, and then, with the benefit of hindsight, make my own informed opinion and crucify other people.”
“I despised and mistrusted the Bush Administration from its very beginning. Then the Bush Administration went ahead and misled me anyway.”
“I was misinformed by the CIA. They told me I did not have the power to object to their interrogation techniques.”
Wait…didn’t she say those things already?
chipandcharge on May 16, 2009 at 9:13 AM
chipandcharge on May 16, 2009 at 9:44 AM
Is the Chinese import car the Soros/Chinese car?
If so, it would have been cheaper to pay Soros off by each American buying 2 cars, and make Soros go away.
But Soros wants the whole country….Britain kicked him out, we elected him POTUS…..who’s the dummy?
nondhimmie on May 16, 2009 at 9:48 AM
This is the same woman who tranced through the Middle East to hold her own version of state meetings with heads of state against President Bush. Pelosi refuses to distinguish between branches of government, the power monger that she is. Her incapacity to function responsibly requires the House’s dismissal of this dismal damsel of damnation.
The CIA is under Obama’s direct authority. Obama is shirking his Executive responsibility to be in their know while himself refusing to distinguish between branches of government much less the Constitutional Government, as he ushers in literal US Fascism. Drudge headline’s Obama’s distancing from Nancy’s abuse of power blaming everyone and the kitchen sink.
maverick muse on May 16, 2009 at 9:53 AM
In her position as leader of PC, if Speaker Pelosi actually used the term “Bushitler’s conspiracies”, she is a learless feeder that needs to be replaced.
MSGTAS on May 16, 2009 at 9:57 AM
You know, Nancy could have gotten out of this mess a long time ago if she had just remembered the safety word.
PALOMINO!!
PALOMINO!!
HE’S NOT BREATHING!
TheMightyMonarch on May 16, 2009 at 9:59 AM
You see there, the syphilis has gone to athernsboy’s brain.
daesleeper on May 16, 2009 at 10:02 AM
This old hag is a real comedian, and should be on a stage. There’s one leaving in ten minutes!
GFW on May 16, 2009 at 10:27 AM
Assuming waterboarding is torture (which it isn’t), no, I doubt Jesus would approve.
Interrogation techniques? Who knows. Making someone think that they’re drowning when they’re not? Making someone think there’s a poisonous insect in the room with them when they’re not? Neither of which cause physical harm? All designed to garner information used to prevent the death of American citizens at the hands of jihadist savages? Honestly I can’t speak for the Son of God on that one.
We are commanded to love our enemies and pray for them. I can’t speak for the people that performed the interrogations. Perhaps they told them “We love you, but you sure as hell better tell us who’s planning on bombing the Sears Tower or we’ll put this *snicker* poisonous caterpillar in your pants”.
Usually people who bring up the whole WWJD argument like Athensboy don’t understand Christianity and loves to cherry pick what they believe a Christian is. Usually it involves bringing up some of the more harsh measures of Jewish Law. It always requires that we keep to every single word of the Bible, regardless of context or who it might have been intended for. My guess is that he’s never read the Bible extensively, much less garnered any inkling of intent or context in it.
I suppose by that rationale every Christian who’s eaten shellfish or stared at boobies too long is hell-bound (guilty on both counts here). Heck, if I really wanted to keep to the word of the Bible I’d send my wife away every time Aunt Flo visited. But then of course that would breed even more sin, because she would murder my ass.
TheMightyMonarch on May 16, 2009 at 10:33 AM
I commented on it at the time, but I’ll repeat it again. I called Pelosi’s SF office and asked her head staffer why she was making this trip. She responded that if Boooooooosh wasn’t going to negotiate, someone had to. This is clear advocacy of willing violation of the Logan Act. Whether Pelosi felt that way personally, there is no solid proof. But what is clear is that the atmosphere in her office is one of complete disregard of the law.
A Tuna rots from the head down.
csdeven on May 16, 2009 at 10:46 AM
athensboy on May 15, 2009 at 10:58 PM
Please tell me that you are not associated with Athens, Georgia or even worse that you are a graduate of UGA. I received my masters in ’87 and do not need my degree cheapened by people like you with your asinine reasoning. On the other hand I would not be surprised that you are from Athens, Georgia since it has become the San Francisco lite of northeast Georgia in the last twenty years.
dawgyear on May 16, 2009 at 10:46 AM
Pelosi has forever tainted TOTUS. Everytime she opens her mouth supporting Obama’s healthcare, funding projects, social security, people will doubt her/laugh at her.
I am looking forward to seeing Pelosi sitting behind Obama in his State of Union speech! Sitting there with Biden, as TOTUS reads the words from a teleprompter will be pure comedy!
Pelosi: “The CIA lies to the Congress”
Biden: “Hell, I lie all the time”
Republicans are the Party of NO! Democrats are the Party of CRAZY!!!!!!
TN Mom on May 16, 2009 at 11:00 AM
Thanks for sharing that, kid.
I notice you have your getalifes in a bunch because the evil Newt was fooling around at the same time he was calling for Clinton’s head for felony perjury.
My question for you is, why did you hold Clinton’s lying under oath “about sex” to be above the law (it wasn’t) in light of the fact that Clinton’s own Justice Department had already successfully prosecuted a female Federal employee for doing the exact same thing?
Del Dolemonte on May 16, 2009 at 11:07 AM
Good lord that woman is disgusting . . . every time I gaze upon a visual of her I have to wash my eyes out with bleach.
rplat on May 16, 2009 at 11:08 AM
Your Democrat party’s theatrical stunt blew up in your face, athensboy. Accept this fact an get over it.
jeff_from_mpls on May 16, 2009 at 11:12 AM
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