Did Obama misstate the health-industry agreement?
posted at 10:57 am on May 15, 2009 by Ed Morrissey
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Earlier this week, President Obama announced that American health providers had pledged to cut costs by 1.5% each of the next ten years as a means to stave off an economic crisis in the industry. Now Obama’s partners say that the President misstated their agreement, and that they pledged to eventually ramp up to a 1.5% annual savings rate over the next ten years:
The president of the American Hospital Association said Thursday that a deal with the White House to cut the growth in health care spending has been “spun way away from the original intent.”
President Barack Obama described the agreement this week with six major health care organizations as a “watershed event,” hailing what the White House said was their promise to reduce spending by 1.5 percentage points annually for a decade, which he said could save as much as $2 trillion over that span.
But in a conference call Thursday, President Richard Umbdenstock told 230 member organizations that the agreement had been misrepresented. The groups, he said, had agreed to gradually ramp up to the 1.5 percentage-point target over 10 years – not to reduce spending by that much in each of the 10 years.
“There has been a tremendous amount of confusion and frankly a lot of political spin,” Umbdenstock said on the call. “And I want to assure you that the American Hospital Association is at the table and a responsible part of this, but that we’ve been very clear on what we have committed to.”
The entire agreement had an air of unreality to it, anyway. What business doesn’t try to cut costs? Costs eat into profit, and shareholders demand efficiency. Even a 1.5% reduction in costs benefits businesses of all stripes, especially those with thin profit margins thanks to price-setting by the government and competitive pressures from insurance agreements.
The White House responded to this development by insisting that the groups remained “enthusiastic” about the agreement. Perhaps, but they’re apparently unclear as to what was agreed. They’re enthusiastically insisting that Obama misrepresented the pact. Either they did agree to what Obama stated, went back and looked at their books, and got a lot less enthusiastic — or Obama got it wrong and overpromised.
The more conspiratorial may believe that the overpromise was deliberate, setting up the AHA for failure so that Obama can impose his government-dictated system on the country while blaming the AHA. Before the campaign of intimidation against Chrysler senior creditors, I would have scoffed. Now, I’m not so sure.
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jgapinoy on May 15, 2009 at 11:02 AM
Sort of like he did with the Catepillar announcement?
myrenovations on May 15, 2009 at 11:02 AM
I guess this is just like Caterpillar hiring all those workers back after Porkulus passed.
Dire Straits on May 15, 2009 at 11:03 AM
No, Obama is saying exactly what HE volunteered those companies for…
And they better be enthusiastic about it, or else… just like the Chrysler debt holders…
Its all part of the Mandatory Volunteerism that Barry talks about…
You will volunteer to do what we TELL you to do, and be happy about it…. or else…
Romeo13 on May 15, 2009 at 11:03 AM
Nice double!!
Dire Straits on May 15, 2009 at 11:04 AM
The media will support their Barry the Childish’s every lie most vile.
So he can continue unopposed as long as he remembers to smile.
Kenya Shave.
profitsbeard on May 15, 2009 at 11:06 AM
Different Day, same ol’ liars.
kirkill on May 15, 2009 at 11:07 AM
– Nancy Pelosi
Mr. Bingley on May 15, 2009 at 11:08 AM
Speaking of Caterpillar, how about locking Obama in a box with THAT kind of Caterpillar (I’m thinking one of their compactors) until he tells the truth?
Daggett on May 15, 2009 at 11:08 AM
Not only does he have the ability to make everyone think he is saying what they want to hear, he has the ability to hear everyone else say exactly what he wants to hear. Should serve him well in foreign diplomacy.
ProfessorMiao on May 15, 2009 at 11:08 AM
Obama: “If the stars all line up perfectly, can this be done?”
Executive A: “Well, sure, but I don’t think….”
Obama: “Executive A says he’s 100% on board with my plan.”
RBMN on May 15, 2009 at 11:09 AM
Interesting how the spokesman phoned back after an hour to suddenly say that Obama didn’t misrepresent the agreement.
I smell a rat.
mr.blacksheep on May 15, 2009 at 11:10 AM
So Obama either lied, or he didn’t understand what he had agreed to.
Great showing there sherlock.
MarkTheGreat on May 15, 2009 at 11:10 AM
Now, that would be shocking…
myrenovations on May 15, 2009 at 11:12 AM
Dear Leader says what Totus tells him to say. Wait til Mr. Umbdenstock gets his IRS audit letter.
Kissmygrits on May 15, 2009 at 11:12 AM
A business that is not fully subjected to market forces.
Whe the masses may think you can make a statement such as this and it happens (like the movie TYen Commandments…”So it shall be done. So it shall be written.”), this is pure folly. Return health care to free market with list lawsuits and watch the strip malls fill up with stores like:
- Baby Deliveries ‘R’ Us
- Cast ‘n’ Bones
- Just in Case Check-Up Centers
Maybe even the doctor with the leather bag that visits homes may even return.
WashJeff on May 15, 2009 at 11:12 AM
“So let it be written, so let it be done”
Pharaoh Obama circa 2009
BobMbx on May 15, 2009 at 11:13 AM
Misstate? More like lied on purpose.
SouthernGent on May 15, 2009 at 11:13 AM
HEALTH CARE COSTS ARE NOT THE OVERRIDING CAUSE FOR AMERICAS PROBLEMS.
Socialism is NOT the answer.
The answer lies with the American people not the politicians.
Politicians are selfish, bamboozlers who will sell their own mothers if they could.
The ANSWER’S ARE:
1.) TAX REFORM – not just cuts….
2.) TERM LIMITS for Senators & Representatives.
3.) LIBERAL SELF INTEREST GROUPS LIKE ACORN MUST BE DESTROYED!!!!
4.) UNFETTERED ENERGY EXPLORATION & DEVELOPMENT
5,) NUCLEAR ENERGY DEVELOPMENT
If you don’t work on the five things above then America will become nothing more than a North American BANANA Republic.
Just ask the banks and the auto industry how they are doing.
GOVERNMENT INTERFERENCE IS THE PROBLEM.
WE NEED GOVERNMENT TO GO AWAY AND GET LOST!!!
izoneguy on May 15, 2009 at 11:14 AM
15% reduction, 1.5% reduction, what’s the difference? The important thing is that we’re TRYING!
And that we spend billions of dollars on the effort to reduce costs.
hawksruleva on May 15, 2009 at 11:16 AM
No Drama Obama?
The Community Organizer In Cheif’s own White House Office of Health Reform, Nancy De Parle said “the President misspoke” (when describing the commitment from the healthcare indusrty), she later recanted her statement, but too late, the cat’s out of the bag!
TN Mom on May 15, 2009 at 11:16 AM
The Obama is using “commitment tactics”: a dishonest technique for getting projects started.
These tactics generally work a maximum of one time, because all involved will never trust the perpetrator again.
landlines on May 15, 2009 at 11:16 AM
Personally, I believe in Barrack and if he’s saying it’s 1.5% per year, I’m on board with that.
Of course, I also believe in the Easter Bunny, Santa Claus and the unfailing sincerity of Nancy Pelosi.
mctowler on May 15, 2009 at 11:17 AM
nevermind the CEO of Caterpillar… his experience has nothing to do with this…
hey – isn’t American Idol finale next week?
gatorboy on May 15, 2009 at 11:17 AM
Would this be an adjunct to the Babies R Us store so that I could buy the crib and diaper bag on the way home with the baby? ‘Cause that would totally rock.
myrenovations on May 15, 2009 at 11:18 AM
Ed, I do believe you hit the nail, on the head with that one.
capejasmine on May 15, 2009 at 11:19 AM
Aside form Bambi’s glaring lie:
How exactly is the “medical industry” going to scale back 1.5% over 10 years? Between the unions and his “electronic medical records” folly, combined with a powerful pharma and medical devices lobby… it is impossible.
And remember, Pfizer, Medco, Cardinal Health, etc. are all publically traded companies
Odie1941 on May 15, 2009 at 11:19 AM
Who will be Obama’s next ‘public enemy’. Gotta keep those pitchforkers happy.
GarandFan on May 15, 2009 at 11:19 AM
WisCon on May 15, 2009 at 11:19 AM
1.5% reduction in the INCREASE in spending…
So, if its increasing 6% a year… it will still increase 5.91%…. just not 6…
Yeah, thats gonna save TRILLIONS! TRILLIONS I tell ya…
Romeo13 on May 15, 2009 at 11:19 AM
another uh ah mispeak.
Nothing to see here… move along.
cobrakai99 on May 15, 2009 at 11:21 AM
Barry, leave my healthcare ALONE!!!!! There’s nothing wrong with it!!!!!!!
bloggless on May 15, 2009 at 11:21 AM
Making things up as you go is fun for second graders.
A president pulling things out of thin air about a health care system destined to sink this country’s economy isn’t funny at all. It’s downright dangerous. Or to use the worn out phrase of Der Leader, “It’s a crisis that can lead to catastrophe”.
fogw on May 15, 2009 at 11:21 AM
I’d be interested in knowing what “cutting costs” actually means, and to whom.
Queen0fCups on May 15, 2009 at 11:22 AM
Amercia needs to wake up.
bloggless on May 15, 2009 at 11:23 AM
Liar.
jdflorida on May 15, 2009 at 11:23 AM
President Shake-Down Artist Obama needs C-Span installed in the Oval Office.
TN Mom on May 15, 2009 at 11:23 AM
Obama is getting ready for Conan O’Brien to take over the Tonight Show….
You know – priorities….
izoneguy on May 15, 2009 at 11:24 AM
I can tell he lied. His lips were moving.
marklmail on May 15, 2009 at 11:24 AM
Yes. The actual estimated cost savings listed: $215 billion over ten years.
Karl on May 15, 2009 at 11:24 AM
Sure is a nice health care organization you have there, be a shame if something were to happen to it.
Bishop on May 15, 2009 at 11:24 AM
The baby gets to sleep in a handfull of cribs before leaving the establishment. The parents get to see which one the kid likes best and buy it at a discount when discharged.
So for births that are without complication, has anyone scene the doctor more than 15 minutes from admintence to delivery? From my two experiences I would have been comfortable with an experienced nurse staff and knowledge that a doctor is nearby.
I would think a business could charge a flat rate of $7500 dollars per delivery and make a good buck if tort and license reform were undertaken. I think the total cost of my second kid was ~$13K for a no-complications birth.
WashJeff on May 15, 2009 at 11:26 AM
Ed,
Weren’t some democrats upset about this closed door meeting with the health care industry?
TN Mom on May 15, 2009 at 11:27 AM
I would say about 1/3 of Americans are awake….
All the Obama voters get to sleep late, you know when you don’t have to work you have priorities man. I got’s to go get some swagga. Obama only need’s the cream of his crop a few days every few years. Otherwise Obama is working hard to re-distribute your wealth and trying to fund all those abortions….you know the one’s that happen because the homies are finding their swagga…
izoneguy on May 15, 2009 at 11:27 AM
Memo to health industry:
President Obama is altering your deal. Pray he does not alter it any further.
BadgerHawk on May 15, 2009 at 11:28 AM
izoneguy @ 11:14 AM
Just add federal judges to number 2 and your list is complete.
Well said.
mountainmanbob on May 15, 2009 at 11:29 AM
Oh yea, and Catepillar is going to start hiring again…
stenwin77 on May 15, 2009 at 11:29 AM
GE is a huge medical equipment provider….maybe they can trim some fat and reduce prices…Jeffrey Immelt and Tom Daschle come to mind.
Acorn’s muscle for money program might come in handy in negotiating Immelt and Daschle’s departure or do they only shake down banks?
moxie_neanderthal on May 15, 2009 at 11:30 AM
It’s all BS. How the hell are you going to save money when you will have even more people “covered” who can run to the hospital when they get a runny nose?
It’s all about buying votes…those 35 million folks who can’t or won’t buy health insurance. Hell, 12 million of those are illegal and Obama is working hard to buy their votes as well. Just look at Kalifornia, do you want the rest of America to end up in the toilet like their are???
And don’t forget – add – Card Check and Cap & Trade and Obama will just about assure another civil war. Lincoln my ass….
izoneguy on May 15, 2009 at 11:32 AM
Thanks, right you are….
It will take my grandchilds generation to turn this hulking piece of crap around.
izoneguy on May 15, 2009 at 11:34 AM
On Hannity the other day – Nurses were saying they were going to quit if health care reform came to them. They were saying what happened in Canada was devastating to the nursing industry. What you will end up with is government hired health care workers (who will probably be in a union) that won’t care and a trip to the hospital will be more like an audit at the IRS.
Maybe the government can just set-up “Kool-Aid” stations so we can just be done with it.
izoneguy on May 15, 2009 at 11:37 AM
They can install some CFL-crap in their imaging machines to reduce operation costs. Oh wait…CFL’s die quicker than the tried and true filament light bulb that has served us well for 120 years.
WashJeff on May 15, 2009 at 11:38 AM
izone…
Healthcare, crap &trade, the shamnesty of 12+ illegals are all part of the Obama/DemoncRAT plan to build a permanent voting majority.
They are well on their way.
mountainmanbob on May 15, 2009 at 11:40 AM
Just Opened: Piper’s Lemonade and Kool-Aid Recovery Stand
WashJeff on May 15, 2009 at 11:41 AM
It’s amazing how Obama lies with such fluidity and escapes any scrutiny whatsoever.
drjohn on May 15, 2009 at 11:43 AM
He really must just make crap up. Just pulls it out of his own butt.
deidre on May 15, 2009 at 11:43 AM
Well sure they’re enthusiastic:
Rae on May 15, 2009 at 11:44 AM
Now this is clear as mud.
To “reduce spending by 1.5% in each of 10 years” means that you save 1.5% in the first year, 3% in the second year, 4.5% in the third year, etc., meaning an average of 7.5% over the entire 10 years. If that amounts to $2 trillion of savings, the total health-care spending would be $26.7 trillion over 10 years, or $2.67 trillion per year.
If the companies “gradually ramp up to the 1.5% target”, if it was a linear ramp, the average savings would by 0.75% of the total. Assuming the $26.7 trillion total expense, the savings would be $200 billion over 10 years, or $20 billion per year. But since the Obama program is supposed to cost $120 billion per year, where does the other $100 billion per year come from?
But never fear, Mr. Big Spender. The sheeple can’t count big numbers.
Steve Z on May 15, 2009 at 11:45 AM
In a hospital, 50% of the cost of operations relates to salaries,benefits, etc. In order to reduce costs signficantly the hospital will need to reduce the workforce. Fat chance with SEIU, 1199 and the other commie rats sticking up for their minions.
hip shot on May 15, 2009 at 11:47 AM
Or perhaps we’ll see a return to pro-bono work that doctors used to do for poor folks before Medicare/Medicaid effectively killed medical charity amongst doctors.
Pharmaceutical companies. No industry is more misunderstood by the general public, so they are ripe for a smackdown. Most people don’t understand that wrapped in the cost of every expensive drug is the billions of dollars in research and marketing it took to bring that drug to market (as well as research on all the drugs that didn’t make it past safety, efficacy, or regulatory hurdles).
Granted, I’m a tad biased since I work in pharma sales, but I see the signs on the wall. I would not be a bit surprised if my job is rendered illegal (or so heavily regulated that it is no longer cost effective). Hell, California regulations for pharmaceutical promotion are so strict that I can’t even give a doctor a notepad or pen with my product’s name on it.
TheMightyMonarch on May 15, 2009 at 11:47 AM
Hey Mighty Monarch, do it the Chicago way, get his bank account number and then….well you know.
hip shot on May 15, 2009 at 11:49 AM
It doesn’t require a conspiracy theory to recognize that promises and agreements and CONTRACTS hold no bearing with the ever malleable whatever the day requires Obama.
Words, just words.
Note well the power monger.
maverick muse on May 15, 2009 at 11:55 AM
Ya right, $65K gross salary after bonuses. Washington and Sacramento get about half that. I give doctors thousands of dollars a year in free drug samples with no obligation for them to actually write a prescription, they’re not getting jack s%$@ from me. =P
TheMightyMonarch on May 15, 2009 at 11:56 AM
Assuming a yearly 1.5% cost reduction for 10 years, the cumulative cost reduction would be 14.03% from the baseline. If I was certain that the health insurer for which I work could achieve that goal, I would hock everything I own to buy their stock. But, having some ACTUAL industry experience as opposed to the hopey-changey experience of community organizing, I’m don’t have the requisite expertise to understand that when The One says it should be so, then it is so. So my limited understanding tells me I should pass on that screaming buy opportunity.
Tongueboy on May 15, 2009 at 11:57 AM
/it’s in the water
maverick muse on May 15, 2009 at 11:58 AM
Obama Biden Peelousy Reid and Clinton, honorary (dishonorary?) members of the Liars’ Club of America.
eaglewingz08 on May 15, 2009 at 12:00 PM
they’re not getting jack s%$@ from me. =P
Good for you, I have dealt with docs for years and it most of the time is a one way street.
hip shot on May 15, 2009 at 12:03 PM
Obama’s Health Industry criminal activity
Konan Michel Yao, microbiologist stole 22 Canadian Ebola and HIV active research vials from Canada’s National Microbiology Lab, and smuggled them into the United States via North Dakota, Canadian and US officials said Wednesday. He was taking them to his new job with the National Institutes of Health at the Biodefense Research Laboratory in Bethesda, Maryland. Suddenly, the story tone changes, and all is well. “But tests later showed “they are not hazardous,” said Jordheim.
Deceit, thieving, biohazards being smuggled without proper containment in transit, federal NEW HIRE under Obama’s watch, so no threat posed.
a willing suspension of disbelief
maverick muse on May 15, 2009 at 12:08 PM
And thats not even counting in the 4% historical inflation rate, which is about to skyrocket.
So a 1.5% actualy CUT in costs, would equate to a 4-5% decrease in spending power of their budget…
Can’t be done. Especialy for 10 years or so. Only way that could happen is for everyone to become Medicare types, where the Government dictates prices.
Romeo13 on May 15, 2009 at 12:08 PM
Obama lied.
Healthcare died.
Got it.
DannoJyd on May 15, 2009 at 12:10 PM
Really?!!! Seems to me the time to stop scoffing was somewhere around the day after inauguration. There’s been a new heavy-handed outrage nearly every day since then.
JonPrichard on May 15, 2009 at 12:12 PM
I smell a gangsta setting her straight.
It doesn’t matter because there will not be a second chance. They will do what Obama’s and his thugs command and once that malignant “entitlement” program has been established it will be virtually impossible to get rid of it.
It means the elderly will be treated like babies awaiting their own abortion. See this op-ed by Peter Orszag for some clues of how they are defining medical care down (to paraphrase D.P. Moynihan).
I really like that writer, but I think he’s wrong on this one, and it is Chrysler-esque thuggery at work here. Moreover, that story is limited to the pharmaceutical companies.
Buy Danish on May 15, 2009 at 12:16 PM
Isn’t this exactly why Andrew McCarthy declined an invitation to the WH? He knew his meeting would be warped to meet BO’s agenda.
txag92 on May 15, 2009 at 12:16 PM
It’s not so bad when dealing with people I’ve known for years (I can actually be blunt and ask them why the hell they aren’t writing my product), but the egos I deal with on a daily basis are staggering. Some just can’t fathom that I know more about my own products than they do.
Unfortunately the pharma companies themselves are partially to blame for the one-way street. Many companies flood the market with reps (I’m one of six people that carries my first-position product in my territory), and if doctors haven’t curtailed contact with reps they might see as many as 20-30 in a single day. Some of them are the nicest people in the world to deal with but they simply can’t dedicate more than ten seconds with any one person.
Add to that some of the bubble-headed Barbies they send out there in short skirts and low-cut tops, and it’s not surprising we’ve lost respect among some docs.
TheMightyMonarch on May 15, 2009 at 12:16 PM
LOL … They got exactly what they agreed to … Props in a lie.
tarpon on May 15, 2009 at 12:28 PM
Yeah, but he did create new jobs…
right2bright on May 15, 2009 at 12:32 PM
MSM: Say anything, Obama. We’ll cover for you.
SKYFOX on May 15, 2009 at 12:36 PM
The extortionist are a’ coming.
Johan Klaus on May 15, 2009 at 12:39 PM
He mentioned the insurers only in passing because:
Bailey wrote a good piece on it too. ObamaCare is just more filthy economic fascism.
Health Care Corporatism Arrives :
Rae on May 15, 2009 at 12:41 PM
New Obamacare Procedure:
Receptionist: Good morning, may I help you?
Patient: Yes, I have an appointment with Dr. Jones.
Receptionist: Your name?
Patient: Joe Johnson.
Receptionist: And what is your age Mr. Johnson?
Patient: I am 71.
Receptionist: Oh, I am sorry Mr.Johnson, but your appointment has been canceled and rescheduled for August, 25, 2012. Would you like a reminder card?
bloggless on May 15, 2009 at 12:54 PM
I agree that it’s corporatism/fascism. But mandating health insurance under Obama’s plan doesn’t help the insurers. The insurers will get stomped on if they have to “compete” with the U.S. Government.
Buy Danish on May 15, 2009 at 12:54 PM
That’s his technique. Remember his John Deere statement? The poor CEO had to burst the bubble of employees the next day.
And that was overlooked because he was obviously exaggerating to sell the stimulus bill.
This, however, is a replay of what he’s done to the banks. I suggest health care buckle up. It won’t be the policy shifts that destroy them. It will be Obama’s rabble-rousing tactics.
Every patient who is mildly unhappy will file suit.
AnninCA on May 15, 2009 at 1:33 PM
From the article>> “cut the growth in health care spending”
What you said>> ” What business doesn’t try to cut costs?”
I don’t see these two as the same thing, I agree all businesses try to reduce costs. In order to cut spending they will need to deny coverage or find a way to make people more healthy.
free on May 15, 2009 at 1:35 PM
izoneguy, just tell me when to get my pitch fork. I’m with you 100%.
elifino on May 15, 2009 at 2:22 PM
Thank God we didn’t elect a President with no
experience!
elderberry on May 15, 2009 at 2:38 PM
This seems to be the usual Obama lie format.
Remember Caterpillar?
Randy
williars on May 15, 2009 at 3:01 PM
Obama did this intentionally to give Congress some fake numbers they can use to help “pay for” health care reform.
FuriousAmerican on May 15, 2009 at 3:17 PM
He’s simply a thug.
He tells you what he wants you to hear, whether or not it’s true or beneficial.
cs89 on May 15, 2009 at 3:44 PM
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