Video: Pelosi goes nuclear on CIA over torture as Cheney’s memo request is denied

posted at 1:32 pm on May 14, 2009 by Allahpundit

A follow-up to Ed’s post, just because your enjoyment of this story won’t be complete without witnessing her comically palpable discomfort for yourself. What better way for The One to smooth things over with the intel honchos on which his counterterror strategy depends than by having the Democratic Speaker of the House call them a bunch of serial liars on national television?

CNN has the Cliff’s Notes version of the vid but I’m giving it to you uncut so you can watch the most shameful part, which runs here from about 5:30 to 9:30. To refresh your memory of the timeline, there’s no dispute that she knew waterboarding was going on by February 2003, when one of her staffers went to a briefing on it and relayed the details to her. The question is simply whether she found out even earlier than that, in September 2002, after the CIA had started waterboarding Abu Zubaydah. Why does the timing matter? Um, it doesn’t: Even if it’s true that the CIA told her in 2002 that they were only thinking of using the technique, the very thought of it should have ignited her righteous progressive outrage. Instead, her defense here — I kid you not — is that by the time she learned they were waterboarding people in 2003, Jane Harman had become the ranking member on the intelligence committee and so, you know, it wasn’t Nan’s job anymore to speak up. Besides, she was too focused at the time on the big Democratic electoral turnaround … which wouldn’t happen for another three years. Make sure you watch at least to the part where she insists she doesn’t think she should have done more to stop the program. There’s that old activist liberal spirit! As Andy Levy says, “Nancy Pelosi’s lies are so transparent birds are slamming into them.”

Meanwhile, as this soap opera’s playing out, Dick Cheney’s request to declassify the two CIA memos which he claims prove that torture works has been denied. Surprise. Exit quotation: “President Obama has the legal authority to declassify the documents ‘with the wave of his hand,’ according to one expert.”

Update: I want to highlight this bit from Ed’s post because it really is the million-dollar question:

And if the CIA really had lied to her in the briefings, why didn’t Pelosi start out with that explanation? In fact, why didn’t she mention that in 2005 when both the EITs and the briefings were made public? Coming four years later, this explanation lacks any kind of credibility.

The killer quote from today’s presser is “they mislead us all the time,” a reference to the CIA’s bad intel on Iraq’s WMD. If there really is a pattern of deception going on, why would she wait until there’s a Democrat in the White House to complain when she could have pinned the whole thing on Bush by screaming about it earlier?

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does Cheney not have anyone on the payroll who can leak the memo’s to the press?

jp on May 14, 2009 at 1:35 PM

This is like watching Mortimer Duke in Trading Places yelling “turn those machines back on!!!”

rockmom on May 14, 2009 at 1:35 PM

I look forward to one day spitting on this woman’s person’s grave. She’s a disgusting, vile idiot.

SouthernGent on May 14, 2009 at 1:36 PM

Looks like it’s time to waterboard her and see what she really knows.

JOHNNYB on May 14, 2009 at 1:36 PM

does Cheney not have anyone on the payroll who can leak the memo’s to the press?

jp on May 14, 2009 at 1:35 PM

too close to the event for plausible deniability…this is just beginning….

you’ll know the gig is up when the GOP backs the next donk in line for speaker.

sven10077 on May 14, 2009 at 1:36 PM

What is with the Joe Cocker hand movements?

d1carter on May 14, 2009 at 1:37 PM

SouthernGent on May 14, 2009 at 1:36 PM

She will probably be cremated. You know, being catholic and all.

upinak on May 14, 2009 at 1:37 PM

Meanwhile, as this soap opera’s playing out, Dick Cheney’s request to declassify the two CIA memos which he claims prove that torture works has been denied. Surprise.

_________________________________

Without evidence to the contrary, Cheney is affirmed.

Branch Rickey on May 14, 2009 at 1:38 PM

The CIA won’t fit under the bus. They will however get very, very angry.

Trying to save your cred with your loony constituents by pointing the finger at intelligence agencies won’t work. You sound like a desperate liar and have made an enemy of people who make it a habit to keep a dossier on people just like you.

Asher on May 14, 2009 at 1:38 PM

The Botox Bimbo is rattled to the core. All of the lies and distortions are collapsing around her. She has made a laughingstock out of Congress. When you have leaders this obviously corrupt with absolutely no accountability, there cannot be any cedibility.

volsense on May 14, 2009 at 1:38 PM

Barry ought not to risk his own safety for Nan. She won’t return the favor.

Vashta.Nerada on May 14, 2009 at 1:38 PM

Since he won’t release the memos, obviously he is hiding someting.

deidre on May 14, 2009 at 1:38 PM

She read the statement twice! She got lost in both readings!

Loxodonta on May 14, 2009 at 1:38 PM

No surprise here. And thanks AP for linking the Weekly Standard article on the denial itself.

They aren’t releasing the memoes because there is a FOIA working its way through courts? How does that make any sense?

ladyingray on May 14, 2009 at 1:38 PM

Its time for Pelosi to go.

BTW-waterboarding is not torture.

-Dave

Dave R. on May 14, 2009 at 1:38 PM

Time for this treasonous corrupt hypocritical witch to go.

elduende on May 14, 2009 at 1:39 PM

What did she know and when did she know it?

viking01 on May 14, 2009 at 1:40 PM

Can Bush also blame CIA…

the_nile on May 14, 2009 at 1:40 PM

This story is just too, too awesome. Cheney completely schooled both President Obama and Pelosi.

BadgerHawk on May 14, 2009 at 1:40 PM

Can you say,

RESIGNATION of Palomino Pelosi!!

canopfor on May 14, 2009 at 1:41 PM

Obama better wave that hand soon or there won’t be much of the top Congressional leadership left. They’re gonna start eating each other.

manofaiki on May 14, 2009 at 1:41 PM

Good God,

I couldn’t even make it to thirty seconds before I felt like wretching.

Madam speaker, you are a complete and utter failure. You are no leader, step down and resign now.

rightside on May 14, 2009 at 1:41 PM

does Cheney not have anyone on the payroll who can leak the memo’s to the press?

jp on May 14, 2009 at 1:35 PM

You’re kidding, right?

BobMbx on May 14, 2009 at 1:41 PM

does Cheney not have anyone on the payroll who can leak the memo’s to the press?

jp on May 14, 2009 at 1:35 PM

He won’t need to be involved… Honorable Men will fight back when you impugn their honor, as Pelosi just did.

Romeo13 on May 14, 2009 at 1:41 PM

I saw this thing live. I saw her start and thought I’d get busy but soon was fascinated by what was coming out of her always oddly moving mouth (dentures?).

When she got to the part where she flat out said the CIA is always lying I was glad I had stuck by.

Thanks for giving it before Rush’s show so he had the soudbited lined up in a row, Nance!

KittyLowrey on May 14, 2009 at 1:41 PM

Can you say,

RESIGNATION of Palomino Pelosi!!

canopfor on May 14, 2009 at 1:41 PM

while fun to dream of the best case here is she is removed as speaker….

Sodom on the Bay will not remove her.

sven10077 on May 14, 2009 at 1:42 PM

She must have been dizzy after that press conference.

Zetterson on May 14, 2009 at 1:42 PM

CIA. My favorite agency. Go get her guys! Covert document drop is needed!

infidel on May 14, 2009 at 1:43 PM

He won’t need to be involved… Honorable Men will fight back when you impugn their honor, as Pelosi just did.

Romeo13 on May 14, 2009 at 1:41 PM

Romeo, Pelosi has no honor.

upinak on May 14, 2009 at 1:43 PM

The notes and the memos will leak. I’m stockin up on movie theater popcorn and drinks…

CIA made a public official statement and folks inside are IMing reporters as we post…

dogsoldier on May 14, 2009 at 1:43 PM

There’s no way President Obama is going to go to bat for Pelosi here. She’s toast. The GOP might actually be able to get some bipartisan work done with Hoyer.

BadgerHawk on May 14, 2009 at 1:43 PM

Put her on a polygraph machine and it will start smoking within 45 seconds

phreshone on May 14, 2009 at 1:43 PM

If there really is a pattern of deception going on, why would she wait until there’s a Democrat in the White House to complain when she could have pinned the whole thing on Bush by screaming about it earlier?

Ding Ding Ding. Indeed, AP.

Weight of Glory on May 14, 2009 at 1:43 PM

“truth commissions” always scream “witch hunt” to me.

sonofdy on May 14, 2009 at 1:44 PM

I regard Pelosi as an enemy of the state.

Her palpable mania leads her time and again to willfully create animosity and division with every public statement she makes — not to mention now pitting herself directely against the CIA, which is a rather desperate gambit methinks.

To say that this dame is the worst Speaker of the House in American history is only too obvious. She is quite literally in her own category, way down at the bottom of the heap, and she does real damage to America, day after day after day.

Edouard on May 14, 2009 at 1:44 PM

Presidential denial of release won’t prevent a leak. It’s coming out one way or the other.

Coming soon:

CIA to Nancy: How’s my a** taste?

Guardian on May 14, 2009 at 1:45 PM

HA HA HA HA pelosi has honor HA HA HA HA

romeo made a funny!!!

sonofdy on May 14, 2009 at 1:46 PM

video of Hoekstra on Greta last night

He says they will all be made public it’s just a matter of how soon because he’s not going to stop until the American people know the truth about what Congress knew and when.

TheBigOldDog on May 14, 2009 at 1:46 PM

“CIA hate botox people”

the_nile on May 14, 2009 at 1:46 PM

Honorable Men will fight back when you impugn their honor, as Pelosi just did.

Romeo13 on May 14, 2009 at 1:41 PM

Pelosi is a man? I’m not arguing but….

Oh, that’s what you meant. Never mind.

viking01 on May 14, 2009 at 1:46 PM

Meanwhile, as this soap opera’s playing out, Dick Cheney’s request to declassify the two CIA memos which he claims prove that torture works has been denied. Surprise.

Can we hire Sandy Berger for a quick heist ? I hear his fine fee is $50,000 .

redrock on May 14, 2009 at 1:46 PM

“I am not a crook.”

- Richard M. Nixon

bluelightbrigade on May 14, 2009 at 1:46 PM

Memo to CIA:

While your at it,

Missing birth certificate
Michelle’s hidden “i hate white people tape”
Any and all taped conversations Ayers/Obama
Any and all taped conversations Blagoevich/Obama’s staff
Nan’s business dealings
Missing college transcripts/who paid for college
Anything else that comes to mind

PLEASE DEAR GOD…DO IT………NOW

This message brought to you by the American people

JJKRN on May 14, 2009 at 1:47 PM

On Brian and the Judge yesterday they said Panetta said that (at least in this instance) he could not vouche for the integrity of the CIA or their reports.

Does that .. is anyone else … I mean … really? the head of the CIA can’t – isn’t sure – has no confidence in the very department he is in charge of? If I worked for the CIA I would be job hunting rightthehellnow. Honesttogod things are happening that I’ve never seen before in my lifetime. Where are we at in the fall of Rome when the officials come out and say “I have no clue what’s going on with the people who answer to me and as far as I know they are all screwing the system and should be fired or in jail.” Because that’s what it means when the head of the CIA says he has no confidence in the information put out by the CIA.

Is he providing cover for Pelosi at the cost of his own departments reputation? Who does that? What does that say about this administration?

BrideOfRove on May 14, 2009 at 1:47 PM

Fight between The False Messiah® and Pelosi??? Is there any hope they both can lose? Or at least politically damage each other….

ScottG on May 14, 2009 at 1:47 PM

viking01 on May 14, 2009 at 1:46 PM

With as much pastic surgury… she is starting to look like .. well I don’t need to tell you.

upinak on May 14, 2009 at 1:47 PM

Obama better wave that hand soon or there won’t be much of the top Congressional leadership left. They’re gonna start eating each other.
manofaiki on May 14, 2009 at 1:41 PM

______________________________________

Dare I say, The Audacity of Hope?

Branch Rickey on May 14, 2009 at 1:47 PM

again, she starts off by saying she’s required to keep the information secret right before she starts divulging information.

She is accusing others of misleading when that’s exactly what she’s doing. The only thing she ever does is mislead. Her entire life is a lie. She even told the pope that he was wrong on abortion. Nice Catholic.

ThackerAgency on May 14, 2009 at 1:47 PM

Reap what you sow, Nance. And to think: she dug this grave all by herself– all in the hopes of putting GWB in there. Whoops! Hee, hee, hee..

Pasalubong on May 14, 2009 at 1:48 PM

Arnold better not sell San Quentin just yet.

Vashta.Nerada on May 14, 2009 at 1:50 PM

she looks so weak,so frail. Pelousy is obviously a victim of the CIA-Bush conspiracy.

la.rt.wngr on May 14, 2009 at 1:50 PM

This woman is beneath contempt.

In a sane world, she would be sitting in Gitmo herself.

notagool on May 14, 2009 at 1:51 PM

Good grief. A different memo just leaked. It turns out that Pelosi was born in Kenya too!

viking01 on May 14, 2009 at 1:51 PM

Nancy Pelosi sittin in a tree..
B-O-T-O-X-I-N-G
First comes lies
Then credibility
Get a resignation in a typewriter carriage.

GoodBoy on May 14, 2009 at 1:51 PM

Not too many trolls around these parts…

BadgerHawk on May 14, 2009 at 1:51 PM

There were actually a couple of tough questions, with a hint of disbelief when asked. I’m surprised.

Loxodonta on May 14, 2009 at 1:52 PM

BTW-waterboarding is not torture.

Dave R. on May 14, 2009 at 1:38 PM

Careful, or lefties will start screaming that you be waterboarded to gain a confession from you that it’s torture.

spmat on May 14, 2009 at 1:53 PM

Does that .. is anyone else … I mean … really? the head of the CIA can’t – isn’t sure – has no confidence in the very department he is in charge of? If I worked for the CIA I would be job hunting rightthehellnow. Honesttogod things are happening that I’ve never seen before in my lifetime. Where are we at in the fall of Rome when the officials come out and say “I have no clue what’s going on with the people who answer to me and as far as I know they are all screwing the system and should be fired or in jail.”

BrideOfRove on May 14, 2009 at 1:47 PM

I would guess that what it means is that the underlings are about to go over the heads of their political bosses, and put some hurt on them.

Vashta.Nerada on May 14, 2009 at 1:53 PM

All your botox are belong to us.

SouthernGent on May 14, 2009 at 1:53 PM

With as much pastic surgury… she is starting to look like .. well I don’t need to tell you.

upinak on May 14, 2009 at 1:47 PM

A liar?

bluelightbrigade on May 14, 2009 at 1:53 PM

The liberal scumbag has chosen the “I’ll bring you all down with me approach” – absolutely f-ing brilliant. This is the beginning of the Democrat downfall. We have a long ways to go, but this is major.

WisCon on May 14, 2009 at 1:53 PM

There needs to be hearings,and a full investigation,it
needs to be televised,C-Span,CNN,ABC,and every other lib
news networks!

Just like the O-J trial!

Everything needs to be on parade,the Liberals need rope,
lots and lots of rope,they need to be under oath on live
tv!

If theres going to be distractions,manufactured or other
wise,then this circus needs to be done!

canopfor on May 14, 2009 at 1:54 PM

If there really is a pattern of deception going on, why would she wait until there’s a Democrat in the White House to complain when she could have pinned the whole thing on Bush by screaming about it earlier?

Quite simply, the position was her’s by seniority and not by competence. Ineptness was not a consideration for disqualification.

Rovin on May 14, 2009 at 1:55 PM

She is so articulate.

Emily M. on May 14, 2009 at 1:55 PM

Romeo, Pelosi has no honor.

upinak on May 14, 2009 at 1:43 PM

Sigh…

Meant the Honrable Men of the CIA will fight back, as Pelosi impugned their honor… VP Cheney will not have to get involved…

More clear?

Romeo13 on May 14, 2009 at 1:55 PM

I think the Press is just covering their collective butts by asking “tough” questions of Pelosi. They think she is a danger to their leader Obama. Must not have anything out there that might hurt the “one.”

sandee on May 14, 2009 at 1:55 PM

LIAR LIAR PANTS ON FIRE!!!!

milwife88 on May 14, 2009 at 1:55 PM

Heh. Fox Blurb:

House speaker accuses CIA of lying to Congress on interrogation techniques and calls for ‘truth commission’ while GOP dismisses claims as ‘not credible’

This is – like Christmas only before the economy crashed.

BrideOfRove on May 14, 2009 at 1:55 PM

AssociatedPress carrying her water. Headline:

Pelosi says Bush team misled her on waterboarding

Down in the article, Hoyer calles Nancy a liar.

SouthernGent on May 14, 2009 at 1:55 PM

With as much pastic surgury… she is starting to look like .. well I don’t need to tell you.

upinak on May 14, 2009 at 1:47 PM

Dr. Phibes?

viking01 on May 14, 2009 at 1:55 PM

She is so articulate.

Emily M. on May 14, 2009 at 1:55 PM

And clean. Don’t forget clean.

BrideOfRove on May 14, 2009 at 1:56 PM

I look forward to one day spitting on this woman’s person’s grave. She’s a disgusting, vile idiot.

SouthernGent

I would look forward to urinating on her grave, but I promised myself, when I got out of the Army, I’d never stand in a line that long again.

SKYFOX on May 14, 2009 at 1:56 PM

A liar?

bluelightbrigade on May 14, 2009 at 1:53 PM

More like plastic. Did you see the way she was “shining”?

Romeo13 on May 14, 2009 at 1:55 PM

I know sweetie… just helping with the correction.

upinak on May 14, 2009 at 1:56 PM

Deeper and deeper she digs her hole. This seemingly irrevelant example of democrat prevarication will tell the story of a future for the Republican party during the Obama era. If the dems can get away with this and she keeps her job, there will be no end to the corruption and deceit the dems will be able to accomplish. If the Repubs can hold her feet to the fire and demand and attain consequences for her lying, then the republican party may be able to hold on to a future and retain the party’s base. Unfortunitely birds of a feather flock together, so I hold no great hope at this time. Please prove me wrong ye o’ great Repub party. Please.

Griz on May 14, 2009 at 1:57 PM

This is the same tactic employed by coward Democrats like Hillary, Kerry, etc. after they voted in favor of the Iraq war resolution. “Oh, I was MISLED!!!” Disregard any actual votes, statements, direct quotes or anything else. We were misled! If the media wasn’t busy giving the commie Democrats daily rimjobs, they could easily expose this. Instead, we have to sit and watch the country slide into the abyss. Disgusting.

litebrite on May 14, 2009 at 1:57 PM

Two heartbeats from the presidency. Two heartbeats from being Commander in Chief of people she despises and lies about. Yes, I am questioning her patriotism.

hoosiermama on May 14, 2009 at 1:57 PM

does Cheney not have anyone on the payroll who can leak the memo’s to the press?

jp on May 14, 2009 at 1:35 PM

Where’s that Dick Armitage when you need him?

Brat on May 14, 2009 at 1:57 PM

I would guess that what it means is that the underlings are about to go over the heads of their political bosses, and put some hurt on them.

Vashta.Nerada on May 14, 2009 at 1:53 PM

Wouldn’t you love to be a fly on the wall there now? Is the CIA pushing back, you think? Can they?

BrideOfRove on May 14, 2009 at 1:57 PM

Dr. Phibes?

viking01 on May 14, 2009 at 1:55 PM

LOL isn’t that someone plastic surgeon? That guys is freaking weird looking.

upinak on May 14, 2009 at 1:57 PM

On a side note,Pelosi’s eyes are barely blinking!!

Very interesting,me thinks!

canopfor on May 14, 2009 at 1:57 PM

I look forward to one day spitting on this woman’s person’s grave. She’s a disgusting, vile idiot.

SouthernGent on May 14, 2009 at 1:36 PM

Why would you want to stand in line for days and days?

belad on May 14, 2009 at 1:58 PM

Classic Blagojevich.

jay12 on May 14, 2009 at 1:58 PM

If Winfrey invites her on her show for more Obama damage control she could be called the Phantom of the Oprah.

viking01 on May 14, 2009 at 1:59 PM

Is the CIA pushing back, you think? Can they?

BrideOfRove on May 14, 2009 at 1:57 PM

They have done it before.

Vashta.Nerada on May 14, 2009 at 1:59 PM

I feel so safe living in america now.

blatantblue on May 14, 2009 at 1:59 PM

Since he won’t release the memos, obviously he is hiding someting.

deidre on May 14, 2009 at 1:38 PM

He doesn’t want Cheney to be RIGHT!

xler8bmw on May 14, 2009 at 1:59 PM

The Day of the Sodomizing Cougar-Man. Dick Cheney refers to it as “This Thursday.”

/

Christien on May 14, 2009 at 2:00 PM

Wow, and this doddering old bag is the Speaker of The House. Dippy old dame needs to be retired playing with the grandkids.

Oh how our enemies are laughing. How utterly sad.

FireBlogger on May 14, 2009 at 2:02 PM

Can Bush also blame CIA…

the_nile on May 14, 2009 at 1:40 PM

For all his faults, Bush rarely tossed anyone under the front wheels. In fact, one could say that is one of his faults.

SlimyBill on May 14, 2009 at 2:02 PM

Drudge is slaying me right now…fireworks over DC.

SouthernGent on May 14, 2009 at 2:03 PM

All your botox are belong to us.

SouthernGent on May 14, 2009 at 1:53 PM

AWESOME

SlimyBill on May 14, 2009 at 2:03 PM

This may just turn out to be one of the biggest strategic miscalculations ever made by a US Political party. There was no need for them to go to war with the CIA when their own hands were filthy. What an act of total stupidity. All risk and no reward.

TheBigOldDog on May 14, 2009 at 2:03 PM

In any region except san francisco, Blinky McBotox would be out of town on a rail.

Fighton03 on May 14, 2009 at 2:03 PM

To save Nancy and destroy Bush, they are willing to destroy the CIA, and jeopardize the security of every American. That’s how far they are willing to go.

Loxodonta on May 14, 2009 at 2:04 PM

AssociatedPress carrying her water. Headline:
Pelosi says Bush team misled her on waterboarding

SouthernGent on May 14, 2009 at 1:55 PM

Someday that will stop working, and now would be a good time.

SlimyBill on May 14, 2009 at 2:04 PM

Yeah, you have to be realllllyyyy careful trying to throw either the CIA, or the Military, under the bus…

Because you know, thats the best place to plant explosives….

Romeo13 on May 14, 2009 at 2:04 PM

LOL isn’t that someone plastic surgeon? That guys is freaking weird looking.

upinak on May 14, 2009 at 1:57 PM

Dr. Phibes is a Vincent Price movie lead character. Web-search “Abominable Dr. Phibes” and “Dr. Phibes Rises Again” for details and photos. imdb.com may have info.

viking01 on May 14, 2009 at 2:04 PM

Bullet meet foot. Pelosi liar hypocrite traitor needs to go.

elduende on May 14, 2009 at 2:04 PM

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