Video: Pelosi goes nuclear on CIA over torture as Cheney’s memo request is denied

posted at 1:32 pm on May 14, 2009 by Allahpundit

A follow-up to Ed’s post, just because your enjoyment of this story won’t be complete without witnessing her comically palpable discomfort for yourself. What better way for The One to smooth things over with the intel honchos on which his counterterror strategy depends than by having the Democratic Speaker of the House call them a bunch of serial liars on national television?

CNN has the Cliff’s Notes version of the vid but I’m giving it to you uncut so you can watch the most shameful part, which runs here from about 5:30 to 9:30. To refresh your memory of the timeline, there’s no dispute that she knew waterboarding was going on by February 2003, when one of her staffers went to a briefing on it and relayed the details to her. The question is simply whether she found out even earlier than that, in September 2002, after the CIA had started waterboarding Abu Zubaydah. Why does the timing matter? Um, it doesn’t: Even if it’s true that the CIA told her in 2002 that they were only thinking of using the technique, the very thought of it should have ignited her righteous progressive outrage. Instead, her defense here — I kid you not — is that by the time she learned they were waterboarding people in 2003, Jane Harman had become the ranking member on the intelligence committee and so, you know, it wasn’t Nan’s job anymore to speak up. Besides, she was too focused at the time on the big Democratic electoral turnaround … which wouldn’t happen for another three years. Make sure you watch at least to the part where she insists she doesn’t think she should have done more to stop the program. There’s that old activist liberal spirit! As Andy Levy says, “Nancy Pelosi’s lies are so transparent birds are slamming into them.”

Meanwhile, as this soap opera’s playing out, Dick Cheney’s request to declassify the two CIA memos which he claims prove that torture works has been denied. Surprise. Exit quotation: “President Obama has the legal authority to declassify the documents ‘with the wave of his hand,’ according to one expert.”

Update: I want to highlight this bit from Ed’s post because it really is the million-dollar question:

And if the CIA really had lied to her in the briefings, why didn’t Pelosi start out with that explanation? In fact, why didn’t she mention that in 2005 when both the EITs and the briefings were made public? Coming four years later, this explanation lacks any kind of credibility.

The killer quote from today’s presser is “they mislead us all the time,” a reference to the CIA’s bad intel on Iraq’s WMD. If there really is a pattern of deception going on, why would she wait until there’s a Democrat in the White House to complain when she could have pinned the whole thing on Bush by screaming about it earlier?

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Snicker – her lies are so transparent they won’t hold air.

{^_-}

herself on May 15, 2009 at 3:36 AM

Lourdes

I read a bunch of your comments tonight and I think they were well thought out and articulate.

The liberal name idiosyncracy occurred to me as well. I wonder why someone would choose boy as there name. Freudian slip perhaps.

I also agreed with your comments about so-called respected Republicans telling Cheney to be quiet. Being respected by the left doesn’t advance their case very much. Cheney is doing the right thing and the RINOs have about zero influence him. Keep up the interesting posts.

Mormon Doc on May 15, 2009 at 4:29 AM

It would be refreshing to see Nancy Pelosi stop her lying and admit to the truth for a change.

It would be refreshing to see Nancy Pelosi just go away.

Very refreshing indeed.

pilamaye on May 14, 2009 at 7:36 PM

I’d take either one of these – but #1 only if she admits that she knew, she didn’t have any strong objections, and that she later used the issue for political purposes knowing she had multiple chances to object thru official channels but never did so.

These people turned their back on the nation and the troops during a time of war and they should not be allowed to forget that.

They became willing propagandists for our enemies and put our nation and our troops in elevated danger.

She should be tried for crimes against the country.

Mr Purple on May 15, 2009 at 4:41 AM

Lets get everything on the table, lets see where this leads. I say Cheney gets dragged thru the mud and more crapola comes out about what Bush did. Go ahead, make my day!

athensboy on May 14, 2009 at 10:06 PM

Unfortunately, Cheney’s attempts at getting everything out on the table was denied. That would describe some strange set of confidence on his part if he were to be dragged through the mud in the process. What exactly is it do you think he wants hidden that he attempted to make public? What does that even mean? Explain the logic.

anuts on May 15, 2009 at 6:36 AM

Yep, this story is going nowhere, and it’s just right wing hacks who are promoting it.

So, who are the right wing hacks on the Today show who chose to lead with the story this morning???

Keith_Indy on May 15, 2009 at 8:13 AM

Explain the logic.

Boooosh is evil.

Cheney – Haliburton – big, fat meanie – oh, look! ! butterfly…

One thing is certain in all of this, the Bush-Cheney Derangement Syndrome becomes more severe the more Obama and the Dems screw up.

Obama bumbles.

Lefty nitiwt –

“ZOMG at least he didn’t choke of a pretzel!!!!11!!, So there!”

Obama stumbles.

Lefty nitwit-

“Booosh was evil, millions died….” :drooling:

The Pelosi trainwreck-

“Ch-ch-cheney, ya, that’s the ticket, Cheney is evil, Cheney – Haliburton – shot a guy in the face!!!11!!”

It would be funny, but this is how the more stable ones react to everything.

reaganaut on May 15, 2009 at 8:13 AM

So, who are the right wing hacks on the Today show who chose to lead with the story this morning???

Really? Is Obama going to throw Pelosi under the bus? Does he have someone else in mind for speaker?

I think the Obama thugs may be more dangerous than I had imagined.

The networks are no longer carrying the water for the Dems in general, it’s all about the Obama. Sure they get some loving here and there, but not when it does not serve the interests of Dear Leader.

I remember how he hoarded all the campaign cash for himself and wouldn’t help the party. Total control. Unprecedented arrogance.

reaganaut on May 15, 2009 at 8:23 AM

It really is time for Nancy to take a two-week trip to Asia or Africa to investigate conditions and let this mess blow over. As a center-right person, I don’t want this partisan BS to continue.

Nothing good will come from the two parties trying to tear the country apart.

Special Forces Grunt on May 15, 2009 at 8:38 AM

One day… Will someone go down today? If so, who? What about Murtha or Specter…?

Upstater85 on May 15, 2009 at 8:46 AM

It really is time for Nancy to take a two-week trip to Asia or Africa to investigate conditions and let this mess blow over. As a center-right person, I don’t want this partisan BS to continue.

Nothing good will come from the two parties trying to tear the country apart.

Special Forces Grunt on May 15, 2009 at 8:38 AM

Nonsense. A great deal of good will come from it. There should be consequences for lying to the American public. This deceitful harridan will be hoisted on her own petard. That’s very healthy for a democracy.

Ted Torgerson on May 15, 2009 at 9:05 AM

It really is time for Nancy to take a two-week trip to Asia or Africa to investigate conditions and let this mess blow over. As a center-right person, I don’t want this partisan BS to continue.

Nothing good will come from the two parties trying to tear the country apart.

Special Forces Grunt on May 15, 2009 at 8:38 AM

Well there are calls for her to step down that should only get louder.

Stripping her of her speakership would be a very good thing for this country.

Mr Purple on May 15, 2009 at 9:15 AM

“Nancy Pelosi’s lies are so transparent birds are slamming into them.”

That is a great line.

cheeflo on May 15, 2009 at 9:26 AM

It’s obvious in the video that Nancy herself doesn’t even believe what she is saying.

shick on May 15, 2009 at 10:10 AM

Dick Cheney should demand interviews will every news program that he can get. He should lay out what was done and what intel it yielded, and how many American lives were potentially saved. This is a HUGE opportunity for the GOP.

marklmail on May 15, 2009 at 10:26 AM

You can see her nose getting longer from all the half-truths in her answers….

Just call her “Nancy Pinocchio-si”

I also find it amusing that in answering a reporter’s question, she has to read from her prepared statement [around the 5:10 mark in the video].

Where’s a Teleprompter when you need one?

sacfly on May 15, 2009 at 10:56 AM

there’s a great Newt interview on this subject on Drudge.

LtE126 on May 15, 2009 at 11:27 AM

I am surprised she made it this far without Obama giving her the shut up phone call. I thought she wouldn’t make it through the first 20 days. Now everyone is pulling the disconnect on her. Everyone she calls happens to not be answering.

Tremmy on May 15, 2009 at 12:03 PM

Nancy should make a visit to the Shrine of Our Lady of Lourdes to heal her memory (and her face, but that’s another story). Anyway, from the good folks at Scrappleface, where satire is coming harder and harder to come by, because Ms. Peelousy is killing the industry with her circumlocutions of reality:

“Pelosi First Heard of 9/11 Attacks in Late 2003
by Scott Ott for ScrappleFace:

(2009-05-15) — House Speaker Nancy Pelosi, under scrutiny for her changing accounts of when she knew about the CIA’s enhanced interrogation techniques, said today that she was not informed until late 2003 that Muslim terrorists had used passenger jets to kill thousands of people in the World Trade Center and the Pentagon on September 11, 2001.

“One of my aides mentioned in passing that she had been to a CIA briefing months earlier about these techniques,” said Rep. Pelosi. “At the time, I thought the discussion was theoretical…that this was something that could happen. It wasn’t until October 2003 that I learned that these methods had actually been used on American soil.”

Crashing hijacked planes into buildings full of non-combat- ant civilians is one of several “enhanced immolation techniques” forbidden under U.S. and international law.

Rep. Pelosi, clearly rattled by reporters’ questions on the subject, first said she knew nothing about the 9/11 attacks, but later acknowledged that she was “too busy helping Democrats win a majority in Congress to get involved in the details of a matter that was being handled through appropriate channels.”

LOL

eaglewingz08 on May 15, 2009 at 3:00 PM

The Republicans are acting exactly right in not doing or saying anything at this point. As the old saying goes, “never interupt your enemy when he is making a mistake.”
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Also remember that the head of the CIA then and then head of the CIA now are both Democrats and both were appointed by Democratic Presidents. As George Tenet was CIA chief from 1997 through 2004, Pelosi’s main problem is in explaining why he felt it necessary to lie to her in 2002.

Fred 2 on May 15, 2009 at 3:04 PM

Ah, Nancy. Nancy Pelosi. Is there any doubt that this brave, forthright, fertile and dare I say beautiful woman has the best interests of the people of the United States at heart?

el gordo on May 15, 2009 at 4:24 PM

Panetta needs to go too.

elduende on May 15, 2009 at 6:05 PM

So, who wrote this pathetic excuse for her?
She obviously is reading it for the very first time

ToddonCapeCod on May 15, 2009 at 9:40 PM

What would Nancy say if she came clean?

“No one told me I had to lead. I thought I could just listen while other people made hard decisions, and then, with the benefit of hindsight, make my own informed opinion and crucify other people.”

“I despised and mistrusted the Bush Administration from its very beginning. Then the Bush Administration went ahead and misled me anyway.”

“I was misinformed by the CIA. They told me I did not have the power to object to their interrogation techniques.”

Wait…didn’t she say those things already?

chipandcharge on May 16, 2009 at 9:13 AM

Ok what the HELL is the flag to the far right???? Looks like somthing out of a James Bond movie about world domination.

tengger on May 16, 2009 at 1:55 PM

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