Pelosi to CIA: I double-dog dare you to leak again
posted at 12:05 pm on May 14, 2009 by Ed Morrissey
Nancy Pelosi has begun hitting back more than a week after a CIA leak showed that she knew about waterboarding in 2002, well before she objected to the enhanced-interrogation techniques employed by the Bush administration. After a series of changing explanations for the briefings, Pelosi accused the CIA of lying to her in the meetings, saying that her briefers told her that waterboarding was not being used on Abu Zubaydah:
House Speaker Nancy Pelosi today accused intelligence officials of giving her “inaccurate and incomplete information” on the use of waterboarding and other harsh interrogation tactics by the Bush administration, saying that CIA officials are guilty of “misleading the Congress of the United States.”
In her first public comments on the matter since an intelligence report contradicted her recollections, Pelosi, D-Calif., told reporters today that she was never told about the fact that waterboarding had been used on a terrorist suspect, even though terrorist suspect Abu Zubaydah had been waterboarded a month before she was briefed on the subject in Sept. 2002.
“The only mention of waterboarding at that briefing was that it was not being employed,” Pelosi said, reading from a prepared statement. “Those briefing me in Sept. 2002 gave me inaccurate and incomplete information.”
“At the same time, the Bush administration was misleading the American people about the threats of weapons of mass destruction in Iraq,” she added. “The CIA was misleading the Congress. At the same time, the administration was misleading the Congress on weapons of mass destruction in Iraq.”
This new story has a couple of problems. Pelosi has already acknowledged that she knew about the EITs and their application at the time Jane Harman wrote her letter objecting to them, which she declined to sign. Pelosi never personally objected to the EITs until the techniques got exposed in 2005.
More to the point, people who attended the same and similar briefings in that period have already acknowledged publicly that the CIA told them explicitly of their use. Some briefings included videotapes of the interrogations, which have been destroyed and created their own scandal on Capitol Hill and Langley. And if the CIA really had lied to her in the briefings, why didn’t Pelosi start out with that explanation? In fact, why didn’t she mention that in 2005 when both the EITs and the briefings were made public? Coming four years later, this explanation lacks any kind of credibility.
She had better hope that more detailed briefing notes never get made public. Pelosi just dared the CIA to leak again, and I don’t think they’re likely to get intimidated by her at this point. Pelosi has a lot more to lose in this game than does Langley, especially the careerists most at risk in a witch hunt. Pelosi had better hope that the CIA has lost all the detailed briefing notes, because if they haven’t, they’ll be hitting a newstand within a few days.
Update: Karl Rove says she’s lying.
Update II: If you haven’t already, read Allahpundit’s excellent follow-up.










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Assuming that every thing stated so far is true and Pelosi is lying through her teeth the only way this story has legs is if Obama, for other reasons, wants her gone. There is NO WAY Dems and editorial pages would attack her with results unless they have been given the signal.
It is delusional to think that there are any Repubs, the public etc capable of bringing her down on the merits. Those days are long gone.
patrick neid on May 14, 2009 at 12:59 PM
Public hearings? Are you kidding?
DemoncRATS chair all the commitees. They’re going to investigate themselves?
Fuggetaboutit
mountainmanbob on May 14, 2009 at 1:00 PM
“Sheets” Byrd is actually fourth in line.
hindmost on May 14, 2009 at 1:00 PM
Probably being burned or destroyed as we speak.
Knucklehead on May 14, 2009 at 1:00 PM
I pray for all that too. But there is a problem. If it were really true that some intelligence service(s) have all the dirt on anyone they need to effectively run the country, that wouldn’t explain why they “allowed” Obama to win. Either he’s doing their bidding, which is bad, or he’s not, which means they got nothing.
So I pray that they are waiting to deliver a final coup de grace, which will effectively decapitate the leadership.
JiangxiDad on May 14, 2009 at 1:00 PM
Spends your money like it didn’t belong to her. (I had a card in my wallet with that written on it…just in case somebody needed to know)
BobMbx on May 14, 2009 at 1:01 PM
Video isnt up yet, but the aftermath is still going on…
This is just getting started….
dogsoldier on May 14, 2009 at 1:01 PM
Oh sorry that was from the fox news site. I’ve been waiting for the video to pop.
dogsoldier on May 14, 2009 at 1:02 PM
Testimony under oath NOW!
She is in a position to do too much damage to the Nation to allow her continued lying and evasions.
If the demonrats do not get her out of the leadership then they are complicit in her treason.
Meanwhile the TPOTUS is distracting us with fake credit card interest rate crisis while on a photo op in New Mexico.
Amazed on May 14, 2009 at 1:02 PM
What a brilliant idea. Let’s Aunt Nancy and Uncle Dick on a live reality show, one on one. The first event will be pheasant hunting. First one to make the bag limit wins.
BobMbx on May 14, 2009 at 1:04 PM
Steny Hoyer’s gotta be measuring the drapes right about now.
Kid from Brooklyn on May 14, 2009 at 1:04 PM
“I did not have sex with that woman”
“I am not a crook”
“The CIA lied to me”
Its. Always. The. Cover-up.
Speaker Steny?
TN Mom on May 14, 2009 at 1:05 PM
Just apply the standard Rush Limbaugh uses: “How many people have to be lying for her to be telling the truth?”
And in this case that crowd is at least a dozen people with a pile of documentation; including Democrat and Republican Congressmen, and some lifetime CIA Beaurocrats who hate George Bush more than Pelosi does.
logis on May 14, 2009 at 1:06 PM
According to Fox…….Dear Nancy is coming out to speak again!!!!!!
Turn on the boob tube to watch the boob.
Knucklehead on May 14, 2009 at 1:06 PM
Wait till the freaks in SF get wind of this…..
BobMbx on May 14, 2009 at 1:06 PM
video is up on fox news
http://www.foxnews.com/video/index.html
dogsoldier on May 14, 2009 at 1:07 PM
America is currently fighting two wars, and the Speaker of the House of Representatives is trying to undermine the nation’s trust in its intelligence service?
Talk about horrible “optics.”
Christien on May 14, 2009 at 1:07 PM
Full Briefing Video Here.
At one point near the end a reporter tries to bring up health care and is laughed at and booed by his colleagues.
aquaviva on May 14, 2009 at 1:08 PM
Good Lord she’s pathetic. Everyone’s a liar except you, eh Nancy? Too late, your credibility lies in the dumpster. Go dive for it.
scalleywag on May 14, 2009 at 1:09 PM
It’s soooo unfair when this happens to Democrats….
drjohn on May 14, 2009 at 1:09 PM
Breaking…….
White House is refusing Cheney’s request for more documents to be released.
Please pass the popcorn.
Knucklehead on May 14, 2009 at 1:09 PM
[hands Pelosi the shovel] Keep on digging, gal. Dems won’t always be in the majority.
Daggett on May 14, 2009 at 1:10 PM
It will be fun to see that the first casualty of the Democratic witch hunt and years-long anti-Bush propaganda – will be one of their own.
Alana on May 14, 2009 at 1:10 PM
Nancy, Nancy, Nancy….
My children, growing up, to avoid a time out, did the same thing you’re doing now. Say anything, to deflect blame off of themselves. I always saw thru it, and they were punished.
Now it’s your turn. If you really think a majority of this country is that stupid, then you truly need a reality check.
Bring it!!!
capejasmine on May 14, 2009 at 1:12 PM
Let the show trial of this old hag begin ASAP.
james23 on May 14, 2009 at 1:12 PM
It looks really bad, if they bring out documents, that distort the total truth. If this denial to Cheney is politically motivated, and I’m certain it is….then everyone MUST see thru this, or be complicit in the lies, and cover ups.
capejasmine on May 14, 2009 at 1:14 PM
First one to make the bag limit wins.
BobMbx on May 14, 2009 at 1:04 PM
Sorry, Bob. Pelosi’s the biggest bag out there. She would win that one hands down.
VibrioCocci on May 14, 2009 at 1:15 PM
Fox has a talk box up for “awaiting Pelosi.” Surely she’s not going to speak again today? The first mess was bad enough….
ProudinNC on May 14, 2009 at 1:16 PM
I’m sure the CIA hasn’t lost those notes. The only time they would lose something is when it was advantageous to them. Intelligence is all about possessing information, after all.
hawksruleva on May 14, 2009 at 1:17 PM
ROFL. She probably has yet again, another version of her truth. LMAO!!!
One question. If her aids went to the meetings, and told her these EIT’s were NOT being used, wouldn’t it be more logical to believe that THEY lied to her, rather than the CIA? hmmm
capejasmine on May 14, 2009 at 1:18 PM
Apparently she’s talking with the Pres of Latvia at a presser. If it comes up again, Fox said they’ll switch to it.
ProudinNC on May 14, 2009 at 1:18 PM
Pelosi is talking about…. Latvia…
Odie1941 on May 14, 2009 at 1:18 PM
She’s trying to do Obama’s “As I’ve said all along, [insert huge lie here]” trick. Except she sucks at it.
Jim Treacher on May 14, 2009 at 1:18 PM
Even AP is going after her now:
and
AP thinks she’s full of it…
dogsoldier on May 14, 2009 at 1:19 PM
I was actually hoping for this to be the WH reaction.
It exposes their motives, and leaves the contents of the memos to imagination, which is more powerful than the memos themselves (even if they, as I would expect, confirm what Cheney says).
Daggett on May 14, 2009 at 1:21 PM
I think Ed was making a joke. The idea is that Nancy’s only hope is shoddy recordkeeping on their part. Which is indeed unlikely.
Jim Treacher on May 14, 2009 at 1:21 PM
Who was the Pelosi staffer who attended that briefing on her behalf?
Christien on May 14, 2009 at 1:22 PM
One thing the AMERICAN Intelligence services really try to be is Apolitical. The tradition is to look outwards, not inwards.
They could very well have very “interesting” information about Obama, but NOT release it because in their eyes, their mandate is external, not internal. They are not supposed to upset the political decisions of the voters, and leave that up to the rest of the political infrastructure…
Problem is that we have now hit the point where those checks and balances have failed, because the political class does not want them to work…
Going to be really interesting in the next week… with the Pelosi statement, and now the Politicians in charge of the CIA denying VP Cheyneys request.
Romeo13 on May 14, 2009 at 1:22 PM
CIA is already out there saying they have them and can make them available…
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/us_pelosi_torture
dogsoldier on May 14, 2009 at 1:23 PM
I was following this presser live on FreeRepublic, and Bill Sammon at Fox News mentioned on the air that his Blackberry was already burning up with messages from his contacts at CIA contradicting Granny McBotox.
She is SO toast.
rockmom on May 14, 2009 at 1:24 PM
This is not over. It sure is funny to watch the Dems scattering in the light.
ORconservative on May 14, 2009 at 1:24 PM
Nancy has peered into the deep, dark, murky shadows and said: “I know you are out there and I’m going to call you liars, but don’t you dare do anything about it. Understand?”
The whispy shadows within the shadows mumbled something that sounded like: “Yeah, OK. If you say so.”
I now expect Nancy to take a stick and poke around in the shadows to stir up the unseen, just to make sure they-got-the-message.
Somewhere in all this there just has to be a political death-wish. My question is why: onset of dementia, cover for something even worse, or narcissistic stupidity?
Yoop on May 14, 2009 at 1:25 PM
Time for this treasonous corrupt hypocritical witch to go.
elduende on May 14, 2009 at 1:25 PM
It’s also a direct challenge to everyone in the media to file a FOIA request or even a lawsuit to get those memos. How far will they go to keep kissing Obama’s behind, in the face of OBVIOUS lying by his government?
rockmom on May 14, 2009 at 1:25 PM
Butter or Kettlecorn? Pass the salt, please.
HornetSting on May 14, 2009 at 1:26 PM
Ed, shame on you. Who on earth is going to make that a news story, outside of blogs like this?
rightside on May 14, 2009 at 1:26 PM
It sounds to me like Obama’s administration has had enough of this wacko. She’s grown to arrogant and stupid for their party to tolerate her any longer. This is just the beginning of the process to throw her under the bus. I’m guessing that this is one time the Dems will eat their own.
orlandocajun on May 14, 2009 at 1:27 PM
remember 1998 Ms. Pelosi?
stormin1961 on May 14, 2009 at 1:27 PM
Has Pelosi already blamed this on her staffer not taking accurate notes at the briefing?
Christien on May 14, 2009 at 1:27 PM
The idiots over on PMSNBC (Norah-baby) are calling this a Cheney-Obama-CIA fiasco and are only causally mentioning Nancy the numbskull.
Rovin on May 14, 2009 at 1:27 PM
Very nice rockmom!
orlandocajun on May 14, 2009 at 1:28 PM
Flags. Troops. Mothers’ Day. Troops. Peace. Troops.
Sickening.
Loxodonta on May 14, 2009 at 1:28 PM
Hoekstra on Greta calling for the CIA to declassify and release all 40 memos relating to the congressional briefings so that the American people knows what congress knew and when.
Penetta is refusing to release them in his response.
Hoekstra claims Obama admin went through a selective declassification designed to take a shot at the Bush admin and is refusing to release the rest.
Hoekstra: Pelosi knew about these programs. They supported these programs. The decision making started with Congress and if they want to hold others accountable, they must also be held accountable. These documents will be made public. It’s just a matter of time becuase he’s a bulldog.
TheBigOldDog on May 13, 2009 at 10:07 PM
TheBigOldDog on May 14, 2009 at 1:29 PM
She’s using the defense of defining what “is” is. She wasn’t at the briefing (by her own choosing); therefore, she wasn’t briefed…she was just
informedtold about the briefing wastoldinformed at that time.Do not mess with Darth Cheney, democrat socialists!
SouthernGent on May 14, 2009 at 1:30 PM
Dear Ed,
This entire topic makes my skin crawl. Part of me wants to ask you to stop posting updates on it and the other part is telling me I need to know this – all of this – even though there is absolutely nothing anyone can do about it and even though these people are completely shameless and unaccountible for anything they do or say. My conundrum, not your problem.
Carry on.
BrideOfRove on May 14, 2009 at 1:31 PM
Flags. Education. Troops. Children. Schools. Jobs. Jobs. Jobs. And Jobs. Absolutely delighted by progress. Health Care. Energy Bill. The. Most. Productive. Congress. In. History. Flags. Busy.
Barf.
Loxodonta on May 14, 2009 at 1:31 PM
Somebody needs to be sure sleazy Eric Holder is kept well away from Langley. He’s reportedly headed that way with a Reno Model 2000 Shredder and has fire in his eyes.
viking01 on May 14, 2009 at 1:32 PM
Looks like our only option is to submit Pelosi to waterboarding and refresh her memory on what she knows. This will benefit us in two ways. We’ll get the info and we’ll know for sure if she’s a witch.
JOHNNYB on May 14, 2009 at 1:32 PM
Here’s the video of Hoekstra on Greta last night:
Is President Obama going to declassify the documents that former VP Cheney wants declassified?
TheBigOldDog on May 14, 2009 at 1:33 PM
Respectfully OC, as a native Californian, Pelosi has always had these attributes that the media has choosen to ignore. This is hardly something that has suddenly developed.
Rovin on May 14, 2009 at 1:33 PM
Saw the video…what’s with the Joe Cocker hand movements?
d1carter on May 14, 2009 at 1:35 PM
LOL…
And the reason they won’t declass the memos VP Cheney wants?
Because their is already litigation about them, and all other docs about detainees, in a Freedom of Information Act lawsuit…
So, the “can’t” release them beacuse someone else wants them released…
/head… spinning…
Romeo13 on May 14, 2009 at 1:37 PM
Gotta give Ace credit for that one. He actually calls her Granny Rictus McBotoxImplants, but that’s too much for me to type.
rockmom on May 14, 2009 at 1:38 PM
TPOTUS = Toilet Paper of the US ?
Right_of_Attila on May 14, 2009 at 1:39 PM
The really interesting thing is that lying to congress is a very serious allegation. Pelosi should not be allowed to toss that charge out without having to prove it.
So let’s have someone from the DoJ investigate this allegation. Should be very interesting….
iconoclast on May 14, 2009 at 1:40 PM
Any room for San Fran Nan?
VibrioCocci on May 14, 2009 at 1:41 PM
Nancy suffers from BOTOXIC SHOCK SYNDROME.
Botox was invented by BoooooshhhHHH!
It’s all Booooosshhes fault.
mountainmanbob on May 14, 2009 at 1:42 PM
This whole Pelosi incident reminds me of http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3WCvULMRUq8
marks on May 14, 2009 at 1:43 PM
In Albuquerque, NM, obama is taking advantage of the fact that he is actually the brightest bulb in the city, with his mercury filled mind.
HornetSting on May 14, 2009 at 1:43 PM
I hope you folkS all realize that this whole Pelosi-CIA-Cheney episode is being fueled by Obama and the Democratic leadership, (with the blessing of the MSM), to take the heat off this nation’s sinking fiscal ship. When the fire gets just “hot enough”, these morons will run their health-care, energy, and education policies right thur Congress to the tune of another NINE TRILLION OF DEBT. Smoke and mirrors.
Rovin on May 14, 2009 at 1:44 PM
incidentally- you can start the above video from the 37 second mark.
marks on May 14, 2009 at 1:44 PM
Ah, but as Murtha prooved in the Haditha slander case, Congressmen can lie all they want… can make any accusation they want… and are granted immunity under the debate clause…
Slander for thee, but not for me… says the Congress.
Romeo13 on May 14, 2009 at 1:44 PM
Where are the trolls?
It’s pretty bad when even the trolls hate Pelosi, too.
Sheesh
VibrioCocci on May 14, 2009 at 1:46 PM
This is really serious stuff but you guys are cracking me up! I was expecting to read this thread, start a slow burn and then head off to DC to strangle this nasty broad but you guys have me rolling on the floor. My side hurts I’m laughing so hard…. and I’m not getting any work done. I love this site!
Vince on May 14, 2009 at 1:46 PM
Drudge has the story headlined also and a link to a less than gushing WaPo article.
The libs are starting to freak about now….
dogsoldier on May 14, 2009 at 1:52 PM
Got to love this
kangjie on May 14, 2009 at 2:08 PM
Rove, you magnificent bastard!
El Coqui on May 14, 2009 at 2:12 PM
I agree. I don’t think it’s a political death wish. More of a…I’m a liberal…we won, we have control, people want to be tromped on by their government. They said so at the voting booths. Americans are to stupid to think, so we do that for them, and they’ll buy anything we say, or do, as fact, truth, and the American way!
It’s Stoopid Nan. Able to hit a brick wall, and blink. But not at the same time.
capejasmine on May 14, 2009 at 2:54 PM
Wanna bet? Yes, the media leans way to the left, but they’re also piranhas. And Pelosi just slit her wrists and did a belly-flop into the river.
Jim Treacher on May 14, 2009 at 3:00 PM
If the Bush administration officials go down, Pelosi and the Democrats go with them. They started this fight and now it bit them in the ass.
Cr4sh Dummy on May 14, 2009 at 3:13 PM
Valerie Plame/Joe Wilson
JiangxiDad on May 14, 2009 at 3:18 PM
ROFL!!!
capejasmine on May 14, 2009 at 3:23 PM
Nancy is now busted, and her credibility is shredded.
The sharks are circling.
AnninCA on May 14, 2009 at 3:30 PM
HAHAHAHA!
That made reading the comments worthwhile!
My money is on her being painted with the onset of Alzheimers, discredited from office, replaced with a newer Obama model in time.
maverick muse on May 14, 2009 at 3:41 PM
“Lie To Me” will have a whole new set of photos for the show’s teaching moments, thanks to Stammerin’ Shufflin’ Granny Botox.
My Staff Person=personal assistant, EVERYONE SHOULD HAVE ONE.
maverick muse on May 14, 2009 at 3:46 PM
And I must be sick because that made me laugh out loud. er, nothing, boss.
scalleywag on May 14, 2009 at 3:58 PM
She is sooo stupid that she should head the Lack of Intelligence Committee and I’m sure that she can find MANY congressmen/women to fill the committee seats. That would cover her butt the next time. I’m sure she sat down with adviser’s to try and explain away the mounting evidence. Let her talk and keep putting her foot in her mouth.
hillbilly on May 14, 2009 at 4:15 PM
Capt. Ed: Your title — LOL X 1,00,000!
Mutnodjmet on May 14, 2009 at 4:56 PM
Karma is a b*tch(slap)!
falderal on May 14, 2009 at 5:04 PM
“the (Bush) administration was misleading the Congress on weapons of mass destruction in Iraq”
OoooHHHHHHHHHH
Liar liar pants on FIRE! (the ammo dump http://www.freedomagenda.com/iraq/wmd_quotes.html)
Congresswoman Nancy Pelosi (Democrat, California)
Statement on US Led Military Strike Against Iraq
December 16, 1998
http://freedomagenda.com/iraq/wmd_quotes.html#Reb6pNPrWh
http://www.house.gov/pelosi/priraq1.htm
DSchoen on May 14, 2009 at 5:37 PM
The Wicked Witch of the West wouldn’t tell the truth even if it were to her advantage. It’s called being a “constitutional psychopath”.
MaiDee on May 14, 2009 at 5:58 PM
Palamino!
Mr. Joe on May 14, 2009 at 6:12 PM
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