BTW, you do realize that a subpoena is associated with an open legal action, and not a generally available tool for getting information you’d simply like to have, don’t you, Mr. Very Intelligent, Educated Minority?

Pablo on May 19, 2009 at 9:20 AM

You’re the one who has been yapping all along that there is going to be a lawsuit, Mr. Dumbass.

See how this works, Blake? When I assert that you said something, and you tell me you didn’t say it, I can link to you saying it and quote you saying it, proving you to be wrong and/or a liar. Pablo on May 19, 2009 at 9:13 AM

But, you didn’t link or prove that I said what you falsely claim I said. Apparently, you have difficulty comprehending simple English or you are delusional. Maybe, you’re both?

In fact, subpoena is probably the better way to go rather than FOIA.

BTW, you do realize that a subpoena is associated with an open legal action, and not a generally available tool for getting information you’d simply like to have, don’t you, Mr. Very Intelligent, Educated Minority?

Lord, you are a dishonest and bitter bore.

Oooh, a devastating riposte! Cuts me to the core, it does. Not. Tool.

Again? I never said it to begin with, Mr. Very Dishonest, Uneducated Minority!

Yes, you did. Here. I said:

And I’ll bet the city settles the claim that will soon be filed against them.

And you quoted that and replied:

Nope. That is not how any claim is handled.

See how this works, Blake? When I assert that you said something, and you tell me you didn’t say it, I can link to you saying it and quote you saying it, proving you to be wrong and/or a liar. When the tables are turned, you link to nothing, quote nothing and say “Spin, spin, spin!” as if that means something other than that you’re a hack. You suck at this, Mr. Very Intelligent, Educated Minority!

Pablo on May 18, 2009 at 10:38 AM

Lord, you are a dishonest and bitter bore.

Oooh, and tell me again how police abuse claims never get settled, Mr. Very Intelligent, Educated Minority!

Again? I never said it to begin with, Mr. Very Dishonest, Uneducated Minority!

That fits well with the term you guarantee will be in every single police procedure manual, yet doesn’t appear in, well, most if any.

See my previous answer, peabrain.

There’s a word for people like you, Blake: Wrong.

Pablo on May 18, 2009 at 9:34 AM

And there are words for people like you: poseur, peabrain, personality disorder…

Oh, and the thug lover is the guy in your mirror. Me, I like people who follow the law. Unlike you.

So, what you’re saying is you can’t quote me saying that. That makes sense, because I didn’t. Liar.

Oh, look! Pablo’s a top! Spin. Spin. Spin. Liar.

Damn your brilliant, lying eyes! It isn’t a matter of opinion, Blake. It’s a matter of being able to see. And what you can see on the vid is a kick in the head.

It’s called bias, thuglover. You hate cops so much you see what you want to see.

You, dear sir, are an idiot. I have done my share of handcuffing, and also being handcuffed as a matter of training. I don’t need an internet blowhard to tell me how that works. But I can give you this news flash: handcuffs go on the wrists. And when you’re face down in the grass, you don’t get facial injuries from being cuffed.

You handcuffing your boyfriend in bed, doesn’t count. I have seen people receive facial injuries while resisting being cuffed on grass and on carpeting. Carpeting is the worse.

So Blake, about that guarantee of yours….Whadda ya got?

Pablo on May 18, 2009 at 9:29 AM

I stand by my guarantee. I also stand by the guarantee that you are an idiot and will always be an idiot.

Why FOIA request when you can just Google? How about this one? It isn’t there. Maybe this one? Hmmm. No. It seems that you don’t know what you’re talking about, Blake.

Shiteforbrains on May 18, 2009 at 7:30 AM

Why? Obviously, because they are not going to put all their manuals online, you idiot. You really think they are going to make public all their use of force training, procedures, techniques,and tactics manuals to the benefit of thugs and thuglovers like you? You are truly a fool. Also, in service training and education is ongoing. If you knew what you were talking about, and you clearly do not, you would know this. Your links refer to this material, but they don’t include it, for the reasons I already stated. Again, if you knew what you were talking about instead of merely starting pissing contests with anyone who doesn’t share your hatred of cops, you would have known what to look for. Clearly, you don’t.

In fact, subpoena is probably the better way to go rather than FOIA. Go ahead, knock yourself out.

There’s a word for people like you, Blake: Wrong.

Nope, I’m part of a very small, very intelligent, educated minority.

Damn your brilliant, lying eyes! It isn’t a matter of opinion, Blake. It’s a matter of being able to see. And what you can see on the vid is a kick in the head.

Facial injuries from resisting handcuffs is not uncommon. But, since you probably won’t find it in google, in your pablo pea brain it can’t be true.

You, dear sir, are an idiot. I have done my share of handcuffing, and also being handcuffed as a matter of training. I don’t need an internet blowhard to tell me how that works. But I can give you this news flash: handcuffs go on the wrists. And when you’re face down in the grass, you don’t get facial injuries from being cuffed.

So Blake, about that guarantee of yours….Whadda ya got?

Quote me saying that, liar.

Spin. Spin. Spin. You’ve got to be dizzy by now. Again, give it up, loser.

“Google El Monte Cop shoulder kick” then Google El Monte cop head kick. You are part of a very small, low sighted, delusional minority. Except you did see injuries to his face, but you want to explain them away as a result of handcuffing. Because being handcuffed always messes your face up.

Opinion by google??? Lord, you are dumb! Nope, I’m part of a very small, very intelligent, educated minority. Facial injuries from resisting handcuffs is not uncommon. But, since you probably won’t find it in google, in your pablo pea brain it can’t be true. And facial scrapes and slight redness are not the type of injuries one would get by being kicked in the head. Again, I can’t believe how stupid you are. Jeesh!

You’re an idiot, Blake. Things will be easier for you once you accept that painful fact.

Shiteforbrains on May 18, 2009 at 7:19 AM

Nah, you’re the idiot, pablocito. It’ll be better for you when you stop projecting your deficiencies on others and get help.

FOIA police procedure manuals from a variety of police departments and I guarantee you will find distraction blow in every one.

Why FOIA request when you can just Google? How about this one? It isn’t there. Maybe this one? Hmmm. No. It seems that you don’t know what you’re talking about, Blake.

Oh, knock it off, loser. You attempted to discredit csdeven by insulting him and to discredit Dammeir’s statement that the officer acted within dept. training and policy by claiming he is not a cop. You made yourself look like an asshole. Live with it.

Quote me saying that, liar.

No, not everyone. And not by me. And the lack of significant injuries to the right side of his face supports what I and others see.

“Google El Monte Cop shoulder kick” then Google El Monte cop head kick. You are part of a very small, low sighted, delusional minority. Except you did see injuries to his face, but you want to explain them away as a result of handcuffing. Because being handcuffed always messes your face up.

You’re an idiot, Blake. Things will be easier for you once you accept that painful fact.

Oh, btw, Google “distraction blow” and see how many hits you get that aren’t related to Officer Attorney Dammeier’s bullscat.

Shitforbrains on May 17, 2009 at 5:20 PM

FOIA police procedure manuals from a variety of police departments and I guarantee you will find distraction blow in every one.

No, I noted that he’s a lawyer, dipshit. Apparently, you can’t read any better than csdeven.

Oh, knock it off, loser. You attempted to discredit csdeven by insulting him and to discredit Dammeir’s statement that the officer acted within dept. training and policy by claiming he is not a cop. You made yourself look like an asshole. Live with it.

That’s funny. Everyone else sees him getting kicked in the face. Like, read the post, genius.

No, not everyone. And not by me. And the lack of significant injuries to the right side of his face supports what I and others see. Again, you lose.

It’s not clear if the second cop even saw the kick to the suspect’s face. Looks to me like they’re celebrating having apprehended him, not booting him in the skull.

Shoulder! I SAID SHOULDER! Damn your lying eyes!

You’re a joke, Blake.

Pablo on May 17, 2009 at 5:10 PM

I’m sure allahpundit will be happy to add you to his legion of ass kissers. But if you think that is proof of anything other than his opinion, you lose.

You’re a real fool, dumbass.

You are the one who tried to claim that since Dammeier is an atty he can not state that the officer acted within his training and department policy.

No, I noted that he’s a lawyer, dipshit. Apparently, you can’t read any better than csdeven. Have you two ever been in the same place at the same time?

That video where I see him kicking the suspect in the shoulder would not cause the injuries to his face.

That’s funny. Everyone else sees him getting kicked in the face. Like, read the post, genius.

It’s not clear if the second cop even saw the kick to the suspect’s face. Looks to me like they’re celebrating having apprehended him, not booting him in the skull.

Shoulder! I SAID SHOULDER! Damn your lying eyes!

You’re a joke, Blake.

That video where I see him kicking the suspect in the shoulder would not cause the injuries to his face. The resisting being cuffed would. If he had kicked him with the force to the right side of his head that you claim, he would have serious injuries — not a few scrapes and redness. Lord, you are stupid.

No, they didn’t! Damn your lying eyes!

This, btw, is pretty funny too.

No, I agree. I also believe if he had been kicked in the head, he would have visible injuries. While he does have some on the right side of his face, it could be more to resisting being cuffed immediately afterwards.

Or it could be more to kicking himself in the head cutting himself while shaving!

That video, where you see the cop kicking him in the right side of the head, and then where you see the injury to the right side of his head? No relation at all.

Have you ever done stand up, Blake?

That’s pretty funny, csdeven. Here’s a little clue for you: Lawyers are not the same thing as cops.

Pablo on May 16, 2009 at 10:29 PM

Not as funny as you, jackass. Here’s a big clue for you: Lawyers are not the same thing as cops unless they are, you know, cops.

Dammeier became a police officer in 1989 and worked full time until he received his law degree in 1996. After becoming a full time attorney, he continued to work in law enforcement as a reserve sheriff’s deputy. He specializes in police litigation.

What isn’t ironic is that here you are again assuming you know the intent of this officer with no evidence to substantiate it whatsoever.

Dieter Dammeier, attorney for the El Monte Police Officers Assn, said the officer acted within his training and department policy when he delivered the kick.

That’s pretty funny, csdeven. Here’s a little clue for you: Lawyers are not the same thing as cops.