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		<title>By: Hot Air &#187; Blog Archive &#187; AIP Column: AARP&#8217;s Willful Blindness</title>
		<link>http://hotair.com/archives/2009/05/13/social-security-already-running-red/comment-page-2/#comment-2597518</link>
		<dc:creator>Hot Air &#187; Blog Archive &#187; AIP Column: AARP&#8217;s Willful Blindness</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Aug 2009 17:53:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] warned about this in March and in May.  The entitlement disaster already looms, and this administration wants to offer the hair of the [...]</description>
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		<title>By: No Runny Eggs &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Social Security &#8211; worse than expected</title>
		<link>http://hotair.com/archives/2009/05/13/social-security-already-running-red/comment-page-2/#comment-2593624</link>
		<dc:creator>No Runny Eggs &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Social Security &#8211; worse than expected</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Aug 2009 23:12:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] in May, when the trustees issued their report, Ed Morrissey and I picked up on a disturbing trend &#8211; there were several months of the OASDI fund running a [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Dirty Democrats &#187; Dems Cheered Blocking Social Security Reform in 2006&#8211; Now It&#8217;s Nearly Insolvent (Video) &#8230;Update: Pelosi Blames Bush</title>
		<link>http://hotair.com/archives/2009/05/13/social-security-already-running-red/comment-page-2/#comment-2242035</link>
		<dc:creator>Dirty Democrats &#187; Dems Cheered Blocking Social Security Reform in 2006&#8211; Now It&#8217;s Nearly Insolvent (Video) &#8230;Update: Pelosi Blames Bush</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 May 2009 09:27:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] reform at President Bush&#8217;s State of the Union Address in 2006:That was 3 years ago.Today HotAir reports that a new study shows Social Security will start running in the red in 2016.The jig is [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] reform at President Bush&#8217;s State of the Union Address in 2006:That was 3 years ago.Today HotAir reports that a new study shows Social Security will start running in the red in 2016.The jig is [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Steynian 355 &#171; Free Canuckistan!</title>
		<link>http://hotair.com/archives/2009/05/13/social-security-already-running-red/comment-page-2/#comment-2223333</link>
		<dc:creator>Steynian 355 &#171; Free Canuckistan!</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 May 2009 18:36:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] O-MERICA WATCH&#8211; &#8220;Social Security already running red; Update: Going bad faster than trustees [...]</description>
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		<title>By: DannoJyd</title>
		<link>http://hotair.com/archives/2009/05/13/social-security-already-running-red/comment-page-2/#comment-2206298</link>
		<dc:creator>DannoJyd</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 May 2009 08:01:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Does anyone really think the S.S. funds exist today? With Dabama pissing away TRILLIONS I&#039;m certain those monies are gone, gone, GONE!

This is what democrats knew would happen. This is what lazy Americans voted for. Big deal, NOT!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Does anyone really think the S.S. funds exist today? With Dabama pissing away TRILLIONS I&#8217;m certain those monies are gone, gone, GONE!</p>
<p>This is what democrats knew would happen. This is what lazy Americans voted for. Big deal, NOT!</p>
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		<title>By: DDT</title>
		<link>http://hotair.com/archives/2009/05/13/social-security-already-running-red/comment-page-2/#comment-2206259</link>
		<dc:creator>DDT</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 May 2009 06:33:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is great news,since I&#039;m eligible in 2015.Thank&#039;s a he$$ of a lot FD f....ing R.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is great news,since I&#8217;m eligible in 2015.Thank&#8217;s a he$$ of a lot FD f&#8230;.ing R.</p>
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		<title>By: If it walks like a duck..... &#124; The Lonely Conservative</title>
		<link>http://hotair.com/archives/2009/05/13/social-security-already-running-red/comment-page-2/#comment-2205456</link>
		<dc:creator>If it walks like a duck..... &#124; The Lonely Conservative</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 May 2009 01:29:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Obama are using the recession to advance their socialist agenda. They don&#8217;t care that we can&#8217;t pay for the socialist programs already in place. They even mocked President Bush for trying to do something [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Obama are using the recession to advance their socialist agenda. They don&#8217;t care that we can&#8217;t pay for the socialist programs already in place. They even mocked President Bush for trying to do something [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Always To The Right</title>
		<link>http://hotair.com/archives/2009/05/13/social-security-already-running-red/comment-page-2/#comment-2205014</link>
		<dc:creator>Always To The Right</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 May 2009 23:49:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;“They Told Me We Had This Much Left!”...&lt;/strong&gt;

Social Security already running red; Update: Going bad faster than trustees admit
The big story for the day will probably be the new report that Social Security will start running in the red in 2016.  The stories will include talk of a &#8220;trust......</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>“They Told Me We Had This Much Left!”&#8230;</strong></p>
<p>Social Security already running red; Update: Going bad faster than trustees admit<br />
The big story for the day will probably be the new report that Social Security will start running in the red in 2016.  The stories will include talk of a &#8220;trust&#8230;&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Sapwolf</title>
		<link>http://hotair.com/archives/2009/05/13/social-security-already-running-red/comment-page-2/#comment-2204923</link>
		<dc:creator>Sapwolf</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 May 2009 23:25:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Is it time for militias to form for self-preservation rather than overthrow of the government?

And, if they form up, will they advertise on the internet for skills they need?

I would figure doctors and nurses will be in high demand for any militia, along with people who know firearms, farming, hunting, food preparation.  And don&#039;t leave out the chaplains.

If everything goes to hell, you need to join a gang for protection.

I&#039;m not too far from Kentucky.  Names anyone?

Kentucky Longrifles
Louisville Sluggers
Frankfurt Fighters

The MMO gaming ideas boggle the mind.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Is it time for militias to form for self-preservation rather than overthrow of the government?</p>
<p>And, if they form up, will they advertise on the internet for skills they need?</p>
<p>I would figure doctors and nurses will be in high demand for any militia, along with people who know firearms, farming, hunting, food preparation.  And don&#8217;t leave out the chaplains.</p>
<p>If everything goes to hell, you need to join a gang for protection.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m not too far from Kentucky.  Names anyone?</p>
<p>Kentucky Longrifles<br />
Louisville Sluggers<br />
Frankfurt Fighters</p>
<p>The MMO gaming ideas boggle the mind.</p>
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		<title>By: Sapwolf</title>
		<link>http://hotair.com/archives/2009/05/13/social-security-already-running-red/comment-page-2/#comment-2204871</link>
		<dc:creator>Sapwolf</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 May 2009 23:12:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;I’m shocked! Wow, I guess George Bush left us in a bigger mess than even Obama thought. One more horrible thing The Great Leader inherited.

JeffinOrlando on May 13, 2009 at 8:57 AM
&lt;/blockquote&gt;


It&#039;s O-man&#039;s problem now.

Carter II</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>I’m shocked! Wow, I guess George Bush left us in a bigger mess than even Obama thought. One more horrible thing The Great Leader inherited.</p>
<p>JeffinOrlando on May 13, 2009 at 8:57 AM
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<p>It&#8217;s O-man&#8217;s problem now.</p>
<p>Carter II</p>
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		<title>By: Dave_d</title>
		<link>http://hotair.com/archives/2009/05/13/social-security-already-running-red/comment-page-2/#comment-2204864</link>
		<dc:creator>Dave_d</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 May 2009 23:11:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;Odd… I thought the Dems said social security was fine.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

I mean Honest Al Franken talked about how little of an issue it was in his 2005 book and how easy it would be to fix. You mean to tell me he was being dishonest? GASP I&#039;m shocked. (Ok, not really but it did take me about an hour to find out what those figures he was talking about meant and how he was BS&#039;ing about it and that&#039;s more effort than most people would put in.)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Odd… I thought the Dems said social security was fine.</p></blockquote>
<p>I mean Honest Al Franken talked about how little of an issue it was in his 2005 book and how easy it would be to fix. You mean to tell me he was being dishonest? GASP I&#8217;m shocked. (Ok, not really but it did take me about an hour to find out what those figures he was talking about meant and how he was BS&#8217;ing about it and that&#8217;s more effort than most people would put in.)</p>
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		<title>By: Cybergeezer</title>
		<link>http://hotair.com/archives/2009/05/13/social-security-already-running-red/comment-page-2/#comment-2204763</link>
		<dc:creator>Cybergeezer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 May 2009 22:46:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;And another CRISIS waiting to be deployed!&lt;/strong&gt;</description>
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		<title>By: coyoterex</title>
		<link>http://hotair.com/archives/2009/05/13/social-security-already-running-red/comment-page-2/#comment-2204586</link>
		<dc:creator>coyoterex</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 May 2009 22:09:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The funny thing is that at least a partial reason for the Social Security shortfall is abortion.  When you are short millions of workers paying in, is it any wonder that the money is running out faster than originally expected?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The funny thing is that at least a partial reason for the Social Security shortfall is abortion.  When you are short millions of workers paying in, is it any wonder that the money is running out faster than originally expected?</p>
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		<title>By: Ace of Spades HQ</title>
		<link>http://hotair.com/archives/2009/05/13/social-security-already-running-red/comment-page-2/#comment-2204243</link>
		<dc:creator>Ace of Spades HQ</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 May 2009 20:59:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;Prophet of Doom:  Social Security is Hemorrhaging Red, T-Bills Won&#039;t Sell, America&#039;s Bond Rating May Be Cut...&lt;/strong&gt;

Obama&#039;s policies are poisoning the economy even faster than expected. The basics of all the problems are, of course, that Obama is spending far, far more than he is taking in. And he will of course raise taxes, but that......</description>
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<p>Obama&#8217;s policies are poisoning the economy even faster than expected. The basics of all the problems are, of course, that Obama is spending far, far more than he is taking in. And he will of course raise taxes, but that&#8230;&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: ToddonCapeCod</title>
		<link>http://hotair.com/archives/2009/05/13/social-security-already-running-red/comment-page-2/#comment-2204055</link>
		<dc:creator>ToddonCapeCod</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 May 2009 20:26:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Didn&#039;t the Demcorats say, four years ago, that if they let us run our own Social Security (i.e., privatize it), that it would be ruined?

well, guess what, we didn&#039;t, and it did!!!!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Didn&#8217;t the Demcorats say, four years ago, that if they let us run our own Social Security (i.e., privatize it), that it would be ruined?</p>
<p>well, guess what, we didn&#8217;t, and it did!!!!!</p>
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		<title>By: No Runny Eggs &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Federal financial meltdown - dead ahead</title>
		<link>http://hotair.com/archives/2009/05/13/social-security-already-running-red/comment-page-2/#comment-2203917</link>
		<dc:creator>No Runny Eggs &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Federal financial meltdown - dead ahead</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 May 2009 20:00:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Ed noted the beginnings of something interesting regarding the OASDI &#8220;trust fund&#8221; - it ran a [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Dollayo</title>
		<link>http://hotair.com/archives/2009/05/13/social-security-already-running-red/comment-page-2/#comment-2203592</link>
		<dc:creator>Dollayo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 May 2009 19:00:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Social Security is the biggest scam on the American worker ever. Only a total fool would willingly invest in such a scheme. You give me 1% of every paycheck you make for you&#039;re entire life and &lt;strong&gt;IF&lt;/strong&gt; you live to age 65 I will start to give it back to you. You will break even &lt;strong&gt;IF&lt;/strong&gt; you live to age 77 and then you can really start to enjoy life. If you die before then, well, thanks for the gumball. Deal? 
There is a reason why investment companies don&#039;t sell a social security investment plan, nobody in their right mind would buy it and quite possibly would be illegal. This is a giant ponzi scheme that mathmaticly is unsustainable. Social Security only needs one reform and that is to support freedom and liberty and make partisipation &lt;strong&gt;optional&lt;/strong&gt;. I am even willing forfet every penny that I have paid into it to have it end today. Social Security is 100% social and 0% security and needs to end yesterday.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Social Security is the biggest scam on the American worker ever. Only a total fool would willingly invest in such a scheme. You give me 1% of every paycheck you make for you&#8217;re entire life and <strong>IF</strong> you live to age 65 I will start to give it back to you. You will break even <strong>IF</strong> you live to age 77 and then you can really start to enjoy life. If you die before then, well, thanks for the gumball. Deal?<br />
There is a reason why investment companies don&#8217;t sell a social security investment plan, nobody in their right mind would buy it and quite possibly would be illegal. This is a giant ponzi scheme that mathmaticly is unsustainable. Social Security only needs one reform and that is to support freedom and liberty and make partisipation <strong>optional</strong>. I am even willing forfet every penny that I have paid into it to have it end today. Social Security is 100% social and 0% security and needs to end yesterday.</p>
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		<title>By: jeanie</title>
		<link>http://hotair.com/archives/2009/05/13/social-security-already-running-red/comment-page-2/#comment-2203507</link>
		<dc:creator>jeanie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 May 2009 18:40:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Pay back those IOU&#039;s government! But with what?  Is there anything left over to pay them back with?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Pay back those IOU&#8217;s government! But with what?  Is there anything left over to pay them back with?</p>
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		<title>By: Throw The Third Rail Under The Bus Or: How I Learned To Stop Coming Up With Clever Blog Titles And Love The Cliche &#171; Around The Sphere</title>
		<link>http://hotair.com/archives/2009/05/13/social-security-already-running-red/comment-page-2/#comment-2203451</link>
		<dc:creator>Throw The Third Rail Under The Bus Or: How I Learned To Stop Coming Up With Clever Blog Titles And Love The Cliche &#171; Around The Sphere</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 May 2009 18:25:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Ed Morrissey says the situation is worse than the trustee report says. [...]</description>
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		<title>By: TheMightyMonarch</title>
		<link>http://hotair.com/archives/2009/05/13/social-security-already-running-red/comment-page-2/#comment-2203378</link>
		<dc:creator>TheMightyMonarch</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 May 2009 18:07:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;This became an issue in the 2000 presidential election, when Al Gore talked about a “lockbox” to keep Congress out of the surpluses. &lt;/blockquote&gt;

I found that hilarious, it would have been like locking up your credit card bills because it represents money you once had (which incidentally wasn&#039;t even yours to begin with).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>This became an issue in the 2000 presidential election, when Al Gore talked about a “lockbox” to keep Congress out of the surpluses. </p></blockquote>
<p>I found that hilarious, it would have been like locking up your credit card bills because it represents money you once had (which incidentally wasn&#8217;t even yours to begin with).</p>
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		<title>By: Healthcare, Social Security solve themselves as seniors turn to cannibalism &#124; Daily Danet</title>
		<link>http://hotair.com/archives/2009/05/13/social-security-already-running-red/comment-page-2/#comment-2203377</link>
		<dc:creator>Healthcare, Social Security solve themselves as seniors turn to cannibalism &#124; Daily Danet</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 May 2009 18:07:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Danet&#039;s Broken News . . . . . . Daily Danet&#039;s Broken News . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Healthcare, Social Security solve themselves as seniors turn to cannibalism. . . .  . . .  GOP gets Blogger Robin in trade for Specter. Welcome aboard, Robin. . . .  . . .  [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Harry Schell</title>
		<link>http://hotair.com/archives/2009/05/13/social-security-already-running-red/comment-page-2/#comment-2203356</link>
		<dc:creator>Harry Schell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 May 2009 18:01:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Here is part of the solution:

Take all the state and other government worker pension funds and put them into FICA and Medicare.  If FICA and Medicare are such good deals for the commoners who employ these people, then why shouldn&#039;t they participate too?

Maybe cops, firefighters and military should be excluded, since they can be asked to do very risky things a Chuckie Schumer or a desk drone in HUD never will be, but why should a one-term Senator retire at full salary and medical for life...or even a long term Senator?  

Given where they have taken us, elected officials in DC, with a few exceptions, should forfeit their pensions. Pelosi and Feinstein don&#039;t need them, for sure.   Bama will need his unless he continues with political fakery.  He couldn&#039;t get a real job.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Here is part of the solution:</p>
<p>Take all the state and other government worker pension funds and put them into FICA and Medicare.  If FICA and Medicare are such good deals for the commoners who employ these people, then why shouldn&#8217;t they participate too?</p>
<p>Maybe cops, firefighters and military should be excluded, since they can be asked to do very risky things a Chuckie Schumer or a desk drone in HUD never will be, but why should a one-term Senator retire at full salary and medical for life&#8230;or even a long term Senator?  </p>
<p>Given where they have taken us, elected officials in DC, with a few exceptions, should forfeit their pensions. Pelosi and Feinstein don&#8217;t need them, for sure.   Bama will need his unless he continues with political fakery.  He couldn&#8217;t get a real job.</p>
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		<title>By: Laurence</title>
		<link>http://hotair.com/archives/2009/05/13/social-security-already-running-red/comment-page-2/#comment-2203247</link>
		<dc:creator>Laurence</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 May 2009 17:36:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The trustees tend to count the surplus as FICA taxes plus non-existent interest on non-existent trust funds minus benefits and expenses when, in reality from a cash flow point of view, it is FICA taxes - benefits and expenses.

It makes no sense to raise taxes higher than current costs because the excess will just be spent on other programs while more IOUs will pile up in the &quot;trust fund&quot;.

Currently, almost $5.3 trillion of our national debt is comprised of various non-existent &quot;trust funds&quot;.

And lifting the salary cap would raise more in taxes than would be offset by higher benefits. If you made an extra $35,000, you and your employer would pay almost an additional $5,000 combine and the corresponding benefit payable at retirement, whether 65 or 67 depending on your birth year, would be a mere $150 per year. Of course, that $5,000 would have been spent long before you start collecting benefits.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The trustees tend to count the surplus as FICA taxes plus non-existent interest on non-existent trust funds minus benefits and expenses when, in reality from a cash flow point of view, it is FICA taxes &#8211; benefits and expenses.</p>
<p>It makes no sense to raise taxes higher than current costs because the excess will just be spent on other programs while more IOUs will pile up in the &#8220;trust fund&#8221;.</p>
<p>Currently, almost $5.3 trillion of our national debt is comprised of various non-existent &#8220;trust funds&#8221;.</p>
<p>And lifting the salary cap would raise more in taxes than would be offset by higher benefits. If you made an extra $35,000, you and your employer would pay almost an additional $5,000 combine and the corresponding benefit payable at retirement, whether 65 or 67 depending on your birth year, would be a mere $150 per year. Of course, that $5,000 would have been spent long before you start collecting benefits.</p>
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		<title>By: MB4</title>
		<link>http://hotair.com/archives/2009/05/13/social-security-already-running-red/comment-page-2/#comment-2203234</link>
		<dc:creator>MB4</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 May 2009 17:34:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The only solution is to get Obama&#039;s Kevorkian Health Care system going as soon as possible. That should reduce the social security outlays considerably.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The only solution is to get Obama&#8217;s Kevorkian Health Care system going as soon as possible. That should reduce the social security outlays considerably.</p>
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		<title>By: steveegg</title>
		<link>http://hotair.com/archives/2009/05/13/social-security-already-running-red/comment-page-2/#comment-2203195</link>
		<dc:creator>steveegg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 May 2009 17:29:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ed, you have mail explaining a bit of the monthly negative balances.

Short version (which is only going to mask the problem a short while) - expenditures are on a more-or-less constant rising curve while receipts are anything but regular.  Between those of us who pay quarterly estimated taxes rather than pay via withholding, a quarterly application of the taxes on benefits, and a semi-annual (mis-)application of the interest on the bonds that represent the &quot;trust fund&quot; (which promptly gets kicked back to the Treasury in exchange for even more bonds and thus actually represents an unfunded liability rather than an asset), the high-water months see 50% more real income (and 100% more when the interest is mis-applied) than the low-water months.

The bad news is the money games are about to start failing.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ed, you have mail explaining a bit of the monthly negative balances.</p>
<p>Short version (which is only going to mask the problem a short while) &#8211; expenditures are on a more-or-less constant rising curve while receipts are anything but regular.  Between those of us who pay quarterly estimated taxes rather than pay via withholding, a quarterly application of the taxes on benefits, and a semi-annual (mis-)application of the interest on the bonds that represent the &#8220;trust fund&#8221; (which promptly gets kicked back to the Treasury in exchange for even more bonds and thus actually represents an unfunded liability rather than an asset), the high-water months see 50% more real income (and 100% more when the interest is mis-applied) than the low-water months.</p>
<p>The bad news is the money games are about to start failing.</p>
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