Feldstein: The coming tax regime that will kill American productivity
posted at 6:57 pm on May 13, 2009 by Ed Morrissey
Martin Feldstein doesn’t exactly sugar-coat this peek into a bleak future of high unemployment, loss of American competitiveness, and essentially all the worst parts of the 1970s and 1930s in American economics. The former Reagan advisor and now Harvard professor says that Barack Obama has learned all the wrong lessons from history. While Obama’s tax cuts are mainly illusory, the tax hikes are very real, and will kill any hope of a recovery this year, and perhaps ever:
Mr. Obama’s biggest proposed tax increase is the cap-and-trade system of requiring businesses to buy carbon dioxide emission permits. The nonpartisan Congressional Budget Office (CBO) estimates that the proposed permit auctions would raise about $80 billion a year and that these extra taxes would be passed along in higher prices to consumers. Anyone who drives a car, uses public transportation, consumes electricity or buys any product that involves creating CO2 in its production would face higher prices.
CBO Director Douglas Elmendorf testified before the Senate Finance Committee on May 7 that the cap-and-trade price increases resulting from a 15% cut in CO2 emissions would cost the average household roughly $1,600 a year, ranging from $700 in the lowest-income quintile to $2,200 in the highest-income quintile. Since the amount of cap-and-trade tax rises with income, the cap-and-trade tax has the same kind of adverse work incentives as the income tax. And since the purpose of the cap-and-trade plan is to discourage the consumption of CO2-intensive products, energy or means of transportation by raising their cost to consumers, the consumer-price increases would be the same for a 15% reduction in C02 even if the government decides to give away some of the CO2 emissions permits. …
The next-largest tax increase — with a projected rise in revenue of more than $300 billion between 2011 and 2019 — comes from increasing the tax rates on the very small number of taxpayers with incomes over $250,000. Because this revenue estimate doesn’t take into account the extent to which the higher marginal tax rates would cause those taxpayers to reduce their taxable incomes — by changing the way they are compensated, increasing deductible expenditures, or simply earning less — it overstates the resulting increase in revenue.
This is a recurring theme with Obama and tax policy. He and his advisors use static analysis to predict results from tax increase, ignoring the effect that tax changes have on revenue. He assumes that a 7% increase in the capital-gains tax, to use one example, will result in a 7% increase in revenue from the previous year, but that’s simply not the case. The tax hike will cause people to change behaviors to avoid paying higher taxes, either by cashing out this year (resulting in a loss of capital to the marketplace) or not selling off stakes in companies and investing the profit elsewhere. The effect of the change will itself limit revenues, probably more than the increased percentage will capture, making the policy a net loss to the government.
Dynamic analysis predicts the behavior of the market in response to these changes, and usually provides a much more sound basis for analysis. It’s why, in the above example, that capital-gains rate cuts usually provide a boost in revenue, as investors gain confidence in the market and assume more risk. They are less likely to shelter income at the lower rates, or defer profit-taking, allowing for more opportunity for the government to realize revenue.
Nowhere is this deficiency more apparent than with the next tax Feldstein discusses:
The third major tax increase is the plan to raise $220 billion over the next nine years by changing the taxation of foreign-source income. While some extra revenue could no doubt come from ending the tax avoidance gimmicks that use dummy corporations in the Caribbean, most of the projected revenue comes from disallowing corporations to pay lower tax rates on their earnings in countries like Germany, Britain and Ireland. The purpose of the tax change is not just to raise revenue but also to shift overseas production by American firms back to the U.S. by reducing the tax advantage of earning profits abroad.
The administration is likely to be disappointed about its ability to achieve both goals. Bringing production back to be taxed at the higher U.S. tax rate would raise the cost of capital and make the products less competitive in global markets. American corporations would therefore have an incentive to sell their overseas subsidiaries to foreign firms. That would leave future profits overseas, denying the Treasury Department any claim on the resulting tax revenue. And new foreign owners would be more likely to use overseas suppliers than to rely on inputs from the U.S. The net result would be less revenue to the Treasury and fewer jobs in America.
Earlier, I described this policy as Obama’s Smoot-Hawley, and Feldstein explains why in these two paragraphs. If Obama seriously wanted to create more jobs and more opportunities here in the US with this effort, he would pair it with a dramatic cut in the corporate tax rate, currently second-highest in the developed world at 35%. Instead, he’s forcing the US to carry a tax burden found nearly nowhere else in the global marketplace, ensuring a lack of competitiveness and higher prices for consumers of American products everywhere around the world, including here.
Obamanomics is a disaster, and it couldn’t come at a worse time. Four years ago, the country may have been resilient enough to shake off the worst effects of Obama’s policies, but with our economy already reeling, his taxes will kill any chance at recovery. We will spend years running up massive deficits — which will prompt Obama to impose higher and broader taxes. Get ready for one of the most vicious of all vicious cycles.










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Yes, we knew it was coming though…it’s just much more severe and is happening faster that even I thought it would (and I thought I was pretty pessimistic about his program). I think the damage he has done thus far is already fatal to the economy…but he’s pressing the accelerator.
AUINSC on May 13, 2009 at 7:02 PM
it is smoot-hawley the fact of the matter is you can’t have the total implosion he is gunning for in a free market…it is darn near impossible so he will willfully misguide a more closed less free market over the cliff….
sven10077 on May 13, 2009 at 7:02 PM
The good news is one of the follow on states to the United States will be based on real resource driven wealth as backer of currrency….the other unicorn farts and hope.
sven10077 on May 13, 2009 at 7:03 PM
We need a program to make Obama disappear
izoneguy on May 13, 2009 at 7:03 PM
Worse, a downward spiral…
Every day I think that the news can’t get much worse, and every day it does.
ProfessorMiao on May 13, 2009 at 7:04 PM
Great pic, Ed.
Weight of Glory on May 13, 2009 at 7:04 PM
Hey, maybe the coming food riots and looting in all the major Obama cities will get the economy going again??
izoneguy on May 13, 2009 at 7:04 PM
Obama’s Coming Apocalypse!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
canopfor on May 13, 2009 at 7:05 PM
Uh erm uh the stars dictated a downturn reelect TotUS ’12!
//Morion the Lightworker
sven10077 on May 13, 2009 at 7:06 PM
How about taxing congressional and executive salaries at 90%? If it is good for the financial sector it should be good for the government sector.
bopbottle on May 13, 2009 at 7:06 PM
So Biden will come out and tell people that it’s patriotic to work harder to make more money so you can pay more taxes?
Wethal on May 13, 2009 at 7:08 PM
In other words the Obama plan is being executed flawlessly.
Mormon Doc on May 13, 2009 at 7:09 PM
My children are 9 and 11. I’m not really ready to have the ‘birds and the bees’ talk… I’m sure as hell not ready to explain to them why the America they inherit will be a broke, foreclosed shadow of it’s former self.
Sorry kids.
darkpixel on May 13, 2009 at 7:10 PM
Where are our resident liberals who can explain to us how this is all sunshine, rainbows and unicorns.
Incidentally, part of Obama’s plan is a new unicorn tax so my niece is going to have to change her room to government gray.
Mormon Doc on May 13, 2009 at 7:11 PM
Great post, Ed.
LastRick on May 13, 2009 at 7:12 PM
Just teach them how to speak Chinese so they sell beads and cigarette lighters to Chinese tourists.
AUINSC on May 13, 2009 at 7:12 PM
Unfortunately you may need to explain the birds and the bees if they ask what Obama is doing to the economy. YIKES!
Mormon Doc on May 13, 2009 at 7:12 PM
My children are 9 and 11. I’m not really ready to have the ‘birds and the bees’ talk… I’m sure as hell not ready to explain to them why the America they inherit will be a broke, foreclosed shadow of it’s former self.
Sorry kids.
Sad but true….all the lessons and examples I have set about hard work and reward are vaporizing before my eyes as I watch a Socialist ruin a great country…..
SDarchitect on May 13, 2009 at 7:14 PM
Well kids, have you ever heard the expression “your screwed”????
izoneguy on May 13, 2009 at 7:15 PM
For someone who is a manipulator of words (with help from a teleprompter) and emotions, Obama really knows little about human nature. Sociopaths rarely do.
He thinks people will continue to work hard so they can stay in a higher tax bracket. He thinks US companies won’t consider relocating overseas. He thinks doctors will work longer hours for government-regulated reimbursement in a government health care system (with no tort reform).
Wethal on May 13, 2009 at 7:15 PM
How many have stopped smoking or are trying to stop to avoid Barry’s new tax?
**raises hand**
Knucklehead on May 13, 2009 at 7:16 PM
For over 30 years, many of us have watched the cost of implementation and compliance affect the costs of all consumer goods and services produced in our country – affecting not only corporations’ bottom lines, but every consumer’s pocketbook.
Now we are about to see it get a LOT worse. Corporations will offshore in spite of Obama’s attempts to prevent this from happening – even tiny businesses are offshoring many of their operations with services like odesk.com (check this out!)
Even GM and Chrysler are probably going to offshore huge segments of their operations.
Obama seems to be determined to ensure that every resident of the US is 100% dependent on the government dole.
But where will he get the revenue? He does not seem to have thought that through at all.
He seems to think like many liberals, mistaking government activity for economic activity and that is a serious mistake.
ElRonaldo on May 13, 2009 at 7:16 PM
Kill productivity you say?
Obama will kill America in its entirety.
rplat on May 13, 2009 at 7:17 PM
After Obama’s done, even at a 100% confiscatory tax level, we’re in debt forever.
AUINSC on May 13, 2009 at 7:18 PM
wethal: bambi does indeed know that taxing a depressing market will make the market further depress. he knows this because i am a complete financial/economic idjit & i know it. he is doing all of this on purpose.
and knucklehead: 2 mos & 1 day without a cigarette. i want to chew a whole pack right now.
kelley in virginia on May 13, 2009 at 7:18 PM
And as American Companies move their headquarters to other, more tax-friendly countries (think of a corporate HQ in the Bahamas or Bermuda) all Hussein al-Chicago will do is raise tariffs on imported merchandise.
By the way, does Government Motors get a tax break from their new Chinese manufacturing plants? What’s the tariff on Chinese made GM cars sold in the US?
SeniorD on May 13, 2009 at 7:19 PM
Wethal on May 13, 2009 at 7:15 PM
He has a two fold problem. He has an average IQ but he is a megalomaniac. With no one around to challenge him and everyone in the media and on his staff perpetuating the lie he actually believes his plan is Machiavellian.
Unfortunately he is about as sly as I am when I try to maneuver my wheelchair through a doorway that is too small. Everyone knows I can’t do it but me.
Mormon Doc on May 13, 2009 at 7:21 PM
//Morion the light worker….
sven10077 on May 13,2009 at 7:06PM.
sven10077:
No Sh#t! Hopey is setting the framework,for his second term,
the Kool-Aid,is flowing!!!!!!!!:)
canopfor on May 13, 2009 at 7:21 PM
I can’t take the bad news anymore.
blatantblue on May 13, 2009 at 7:24 PM
Is he doing this on purpose is the BIG question.
Sarjex on May 13, 2009 at 7:25 PM
I don’t think it matters. We’re just as dead either way.
AUINSC on May 13, 2009 at 7:26 PM
Thanks Ed. I feel so much better now. :-)
Hawkins1701 on May 13, 2009 at 7:27 PM
Hrmmmm, looking forward to all of the sunshine-pumping lefty trolls to show and cheer us up.
AUINSC on May 13, 2009 at 7:27 PM
Gas prices have gone up from a buck 68 on the day of his ascension to two 19 here…..
not one “gas crunch squeeze hurting American budgets” yet from the Moonbat $ociali$t Media…..
sven10077 on May 13, 2009 at 7:27 PM
Not dead, reborn after he falls….
sven10077 on May 13, 2009 at 7:28 PM
I remember the question from Charles Gibson in the Philadelphia debate. He was trying to explain to Obama that lower tax rates actually generated more revenue from increased investments. Obama agreed, but said he wanted higher ones for “fairness.”
I thought Obama understood Gibson, but disagreed. Now I’m not sure he really understood what Gibson was trying to explain to him.
Wethal on May 13, 2009 at 7:28 PM
Just don’t call it socialism though. Because Jon Stewart will make fun of you if you do, or something.
thirteen28 on May 13, 2009 at 7:28 PM
Google: The Obama Deception and see why almost everything happening is irrelevant.
volsense on May 13, 2009 at 7:29 PM
It’s nothing short of the destruction of the American economy.
And these taxes are only the tip of the iceberg.
notagool on May 13, 2009 at 7:31 PM
yeah, but the new dog is so cute and doesn’t Michelle just have the most awesome wardrobe!
gsherin on May 13, 2009 at 7:35 PM
And we will take this lying down????? Hope not..
OneConservative on May 13, 2009 at 7:35 PM
Just remember – all of us who predicted that if Obama won it would be Carter’s second term are raaacists!!!!1!1!
Laura on May 13, 2009 at 7:36 PM
This has all happened a hundred times before, in a hundred different countries.
Now that we have passed the point where federal spending is more than 50% of GDP, all the rules change. For every dollar taxed, that means TWO dollars removed from the economy. And (since there is no way in Hell Obama or the Democrat-controlled Congress would even imagine reducing non-discretionary spending) even the slightest reduction in GDP will create a death spiral.
In a very few years, total taxation will exceed GDP. Well, OK, of course it can’t really do that, because the system will entirely break down before we get to that point.
The problem is that the people running this country right now aren’t just playing a game. They they will never simply admit “oops, I guess Communism doesn’t work after all.” This stopped being an economic theory 70 years ago. It’s a religion. And these people will NEVER admit they are wrong. They can’t even conceive of the possibility.
logis on May 13, 2009 at 7:36 PM
Please stop shilling for Alex Jones!!!
Enough already.
Knucklehead on May 13, 2009 at 7:37 PM
FDR 2.
Johan Klaus on May 13, 2009 at 7:40 PM
Stupidomics, here we come.
Mojave Mark on May 13, 2009 at 7:41 PM
Cap and Trade is a mandatory religious tithe to the Democrat’s savior.
You will pay to have your sins forgiven whether you believe or not.
econavenger on May 13, 2009 at 7:41 PM
Why do you have a picture of Batboy as the splash?
- The Cat
MirCat on May 13, 2009 at 7:42 PM
A large portion of those who voted Obama into office have yet to see the total picture facing them in the near future.
Part of that is the fault of the MSM choosing to not keep the public truly informed. Most of us know that. Part of it is also due to the inate inability of a liberal to admit to a mistake. Most of us recognize that.
Therefore when the massive train wreck occurs it will be a real surprise to most of the left. They will, though, finally, fully and crushingly understand the folly of their vote for, and support of, Obama and the Democrats when there is $200 of $300 less in their check each pay period. The bottom line will finally get THEIR attention. Only then will they understand that NOTHING is actually free, NOTHING.
Yoop on May 13, 2009 at 7:42 PM
Obama and his tax policy………….
………… what could go wrong?
Seven Percent Solution on May 13, 2009 at 7:46 PM
jesus, ed. that last line was pure allah.
cheer up, bunkie. the US needs a disasterous Democratic regime every 30 years or so to remind it that socialism doesn’t work.
DrW on May 13, 2009 at 7:49 PM
In order to overcome this recession, we needed to grow the private sector. Instead we getting the largest expansion of government ever, paid for with the largest government borrowing ever. And in order to pay for that debt, there will either have to be massive tax increases, massive currency devaluation with massive inflation, or both. And this will further erode the private sector.
Who is going to stop this? Who is going to offer alternatives? If the Republicans can’t put up enough fiscally responsible candidates who win back enough seats in the Senate in 2010, our economic dive will quicken.
Loxodonta on May 13, 2009 at 7:49 PM
ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh!
Joe Caps on May 13, 2009 at 7:50 PM
Glad to see the Chicago Jesus train to give the wealth back to it’s rightful owners is on schedule.
ALL ABOARD!!!
Isn’t it wonderful to see the Adults are in Charge!!:(
Dire Straits on May 13, 2009 at 7:52 PM
Great piece Ed!
moxie_neanderthal on May 13, 2009 at 7:52 PM
economic collapse inevitably brings war…with Obama as ‘dear leader’ our enemies are emboldened..our dollar will TANK big time…the EZEKIEL OPTION comes into play…
I think I hear the hoofbeats of the 4 horsemen…
right4life on May 13, 2009 at 7:53 PM
I think the estimate for the cost of the cap-and-trade tax was actually a bit under $4000 per household. The economics professor who came up with the lower number found an error in his spreadsheet and had to revise it upwards.
Socratease on May 13, 2009 at 8:02 PM
So is Obama succeeding yet?
PappaMac on May 13, 2009 at 8:08 PM
Does this mean I have to tax my children ™ since they are CO2 producers?
morgyman on May 13, 2009 at 8:09 PM
The Alchemist-in-Chief thinks he has developed a perpetual wealth machine. Too bad the rest of us have to suffer the consequences of his delusions.
chemman on May 13, 2009 at 8:10 PM
Succeeding at what? Destroying the country? You Betcha!
AUINSC on May 13, 2009 at 8:12 PM
Can’t we just talk about his pecs and Michelle’s arms? For the good of the country. Oh yeah, that Miss California is a nazi, all better now.
2Tru2Tru on May 13, 2009 at 8:12 PM
Fred Thompson put this the best, most concise way at the last RNC convention:
“Oh, he only wants to tax corporations, so unless you do anything like buy food, gas, or clothes, or get a paycheck from a corporation, it’s not gonna affect you at all.”
This is what the GOP needs to put out in its messages. Stop using the word “socialist;” non-political people aren’t affected by it. The message should simply be that taxing the rich also taxes the poor.
CarpeFishem on May 13, 2009 at 8:13 PM
Ya think?
My prediction, and it isn’t done with any joy whatsoever, is that Freakmonkeybama’s punitive policies will cause anyone with any bucks to withdraw from the economy and hide it out of fear of Chavez like tactics to take it away.
The economy will crash much, much deeper than it is today, unemployment is going to soar to never before seen levels, and businesses that still want to do business will take their business outside the USA, basing it in less punitive, socialist, fascist run regimes than the USA has.
The only reason I can possibly come up with for this is that this sonofabitch actually DOES hate America and wants it humbled in the face of the rest of the world, especially the moooooooslim freaks and terrorists.
I’m sick of the whole deal and I’m not waiting, I’m pulling every dime I have out of the economy. Sorry about the lost jobs in advance, but until America wakes up and kicks this goddamned freak out, I’m sitting tight and closing my doors.
Spiritk9 on May 13, 2009 at 8:15 PM
He thinks he has. It’s the printing press in Bernanke’s basement. Wonder if either of them heard of Weimar Germany or Zimbabwe.
Wethal on May 13, 2009 at 8:16 PM
Less than stimulating.
ronsfi on May 13, 2009 at 8:19 PM
He probably had a house rule for Monopoly that allowed him to play with IOUs when the bank ran out of cash. A life lesson carried forward with practical use. It’s coming in handy, too.
BobMbx on May 13, 2009 at 8:22 PM
And from the rubble of the once great nation that was once America, he will rebuild the nation in his image…Scary stuff. I don’t want it to sound conspiracyish, but its frightening to think of.
FontanaConservative on May 13, 2009 at 8:27 PM
Look, Obama is doing nothing to repair the economy. As has been said before, If he was trying to destroy the Country, what would he do different?
He is destroying it, purposely.
We joke that Zimbabwe is his model, but this is exactly right. The Wealthy are playing the role of the White farmers. The wealthy are having their Corporations and assets stolen from them and those assets are being turned over to their “rightful owners” and sycophants, in this case the Unions, just as the government of Zimbabwe turned over the farms to bushmen. It did not matter that they did not farm the land, only that there was “justice”. In the case of Chrysler, the Unions didn’t even want the asset, they stated they would sell their interest.
Socialism is essentially Tribal, as one must do homage and supplication to the State. The Chief is replaced by the Chairman, the village elders by the committee. Laws are bendable and change with the blowing of the wind, a change of committee makeup or change of the Chief. Instead of a Nation of Laws, we have a Nation of Pull. Hence, the Obama Administration.
Not a single aspect of Obama’s agenda is designed to encourage businesses, from large to small, service to manufacturing, import to export, farms to high tech, mining to energy. Only the Firearms industry is running full blast, because there are some who see a pattern.
No one questions why he STILL has not hired staff for the Treasury anymore. The printing presses roar into the night, sounding doom for us in a year or two and the those who displease Obama get Busloads of Union Members at their door.
I seriously fear that this is Obama tearing out his white genes. After all, his father said, “Wake up, Black Man!”*
*(Obama, Dreams of my Father)
GunRunner on May 13, 2009 at 8:27 PM
he ain’t gonna be in charge of the rubble….bank on it.
sven10077 on May 13, 2009 at 8:28 PM
He’s a fool.
He’s an absolute fool.
Worst. President. Ever.
stevezilla on May 13, 2009 at 8:29 PM
I’d suggest banking on it in Switzerland though…
sven10077 on May 13, 2009 at 8:30 PM
When the Associated Press starts doubting the White House claims on the economy, will the rest of the MSM begin to realize that the Emperor has no clothes…
Wethal on May 13, 2009 at 8:33 PM
Hahahaha, but notice how the AP only directed their punches at Biden…I think they only mentioned Obama once in that little thing…almost makes it sounds like Obama’s lies about the stimulus are all poor dumb Joe Biden’s fault.
AUINSC on May 13, 2009 at 8:36 PM
Judicial Watch gets confidential documents showing how Paulson forced banks to take TARP money last fall
Wethal on May 13, 2009 at 8:39 PM
This man is not just ignorant, but he’s also stupid…and not to mention naive…
…we are so screwed.
ladyingray on May 13, 2009 at 8:43 PM
Rush Limbaugh
Ann Coulter
Sean Hannity
Martin Feldstein
It all makes sense.
LibTired on May 13, 2009 at 8:46 PM
sven10077 on May 13, 2009 at 8:30 PM
Bank you very much, I’ll see to it.
FontanaConservative on May 13, 2009 at 8:55 PM
I knew a man, Objangles, and he danced for me
In worn out new deal shoes.
With short hair, a flashy shirt and fancy pants,
The old new deal soft shoe.
He tap danced so high, tap danced so high, then he lightly touched down.
I met him in a ward in Chicago, I was
So down and out.
He looked to be the Messiah of the age,
As he spoke right out.
He talked of hope, he talked of change.
But then he laughed and just clicked heels instead.
Mister Objangles
Mister Objangles
Mister Objangles
Dance!
MB4 on May 13, 2009 at 8:56 PM
We might as well have Chavez as president.
CP on May 13, 2009 at 8:56 PM
I’ll soon take all my troubles over to Obama Rue
You know The One with the never ending Hope and Change shtick
He’s got a pad down on Pennsylvania avenue
He’ll be passin’ out little bottles of Obama Potion Number Nine
I’ll tell him that I’m having trouble with my mortgage payments
It’s gotten even worse in these last few weeks
He’ll kiss me on the cheek and he’ll made a magic sign
He’ll say “What you need is Obama Potion Number Nine”
He’ll turn around and gave me a wink
He’ll say “I’m gonna have my Michelle make it up right here in the White House sink”
It’ll smell like Chicago, it’ll look like socialist ink
I’ll hold my nose, I’ll close my eyes, I’ll take a drink
I won’t know if it is day or night
I’ll start grabbin’ everyone else’s money that is in sight
But when there’s nothin’ left to grab
It’ll break my little bottle of Obama Potion Number Nine
MB4 on May 13, 2009 at 8:58 PM
AUINSC on May 13, 2009 at 8:36 PM
Didn’t Obama sometime back name Biden as the stimulus czar?
FontanaConservative on May 13, 2009 at 8:58 PM
You with your Hotair blogin’
And you skeptics always contemplatin’
How my coronation you’d like to start rearrangin’
When that’s not what you really should do
When heaven has found you
Can’t you see
That it’s all wrapped up in the Messiah that’s Me
So follow Me
Come on, tax payers
Follow Me
I’m Obama the Piper
And I’ll show you where Hope and Change is at
Come on, tax payers
Can’t you see
I’m Obama the Piper
Trust in Me
Tax payers
Don’t be worried about payin’ big bucks to help Me move and grove
Hey, tax payers
What do you think I’m tryin’ to prove
It ain’t true
That My Michelle would like to punch and rob your kids and you
It’s just in your mind
And that’s all that’s trickin’ you
So behind all My celebrities step in line
Come on, tax payers
Pony them big bucks up for Me
Come on, tax payers
Trust in My Teleprompter and Me
Come on, tax payers
Can’t you see
Come on, tax payers
Follow Me
MB4 on May 13, 2009 at 9:01 PM
Yes, I believe you are correct, now that I think about it.
AUINSC on May 13, 2009 at 9:02 PM
Yes, at least he drills for oil, or tries to anyway….
Hey Hugo, you have to pay your bills….
If you ripoff everything no one will want to help you…
Bummer, get a hint.
izoneguy on May 13, 2009 at 9:06 PM
Obama is learning less and less about more and more, and ultimately will know nothing about everything.
Cheshire Cat on May 13, 2009 at 9:08 PM
Obama never learned anything from history, because Obama never really learned US history.
Wethal on May 13, 2009 at 9:09 PM
John Galt has options…
bperiwinkle on May 13, 2009 at 9:10 PM
(raises hand)Me too! Trying to quit before I turn 40. Cigs are 6.50+ in DC/MD and it’s killing me and my wallet.
bryan2369 on May 13, 2009 at 9:12 PM
one of which is simply shrugging and walking to freer pastures….liberals fromCanada and the UK have explained the immorality of our illegal immigration policies so I am certain they will welcome economic refugees…
sven10077 on May 13, 2009 at 9:15 PM
For those not secure in their lifeboats, the band shall play, and we can sing along:
Though like the wanderer,
The sun gone down,
Darkness be over me,
My rest a stone,
Yet in my dreams I’d be
Nearer, my God, to Thee,
Nearer, my God, to Thee,
Nearer to Thee,
Loxodonta on May 13, 2009 at 9:20 PM
Lox Canuckistan’s southern border is even less secure than ours if you get away from the cities…
sven10077 on May 13, 2009 at 9:21 PM
Absolutely. If anyone here thinks Obama and crew are stupid etc you are sadly mistaken.
Read Saul Alinsky first before you make statements about what Obama is up to. He may pretend to have been a college professor but what he certainly did was teach Alinsky tactics on the community level.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Saul_Alinsky
As to why he would run the country into debt, undermine the dollar and ultimately trash the bond market, the purpose is to crush the middle class. If you need to know why he would do that read Lenin and Marx. You cannot remake the electorate without crushing the middle class. The rich will always be rich, the poor will always be poor but the power is always with the broad middle class. The standard method for effecting the change is through taxes and inflation.
My advice, get rich as fast as you can!
patrick neid on May 13, 2009 at 9:27 PM
or get armed and make friends with them…..the punchline for the recently dethroned middle class will be the passion plays known as Kulak purges…
I’ll either leave or die fighting them.
sven10077 on May 13, 2009 at 9:30 PM
Do we have any military types like Patton anymore or are they all Wesley Clark, touchy feely types?
Just curious.
BowHuntingTexas on May 13, 2009 at 9:38 PM
If you have a means to survive hitting the iceberg, more power to you. I wish this disaster could be avoided, for many will go down with the ship. And I don’t know how much will be left for salvaging and rebuilding.
Sorry for being pessimistic, but even if the worst can be avoided, it seems that at least some of us are going to be tossed overboard by the impact. As I’m barely able to survive in good times, I expect to be one of the casualties.
Loxodonta on May 13, 2009 at 9:38 PM
It’s a wake up call America!!
Dollayo on May 13, 2009 at 9:40 PM
the shirt on my back love of my child and wife a bit of training and a few tools of the trade….but I drive well have been taught SERE and am willing to go wherever has the most freedom…..
when Ogabe and the donks kill the freedom to own what you produce that flag is just a piece of cloth to me….
sven10077 on May 13, 2009 at 9:40 PM
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