Sanford, Perry plan virtual “Tea Party 2.0″

posted at 6:49 pm on May 12, 2009 by Allahpundit

Eh. Sounds cool in theory, or at least it would have if they had pulled in grassroots people to speak too and spent more time promoting it. As it is, this smells like a joint campaign event to remind the base who the real fiscal cons are ahead of a likely Sanford presidential run and Perry’s re-election bid against Kay Bailey Hutchison. Slapping the Republican brand on “tea party” won’t please partiers who want the events to remain bipartisan either, but I suppose that rubicon was crossed when Fox News went whole hog to promote the protests.

Hoping to recapture the grassroots energy of last month’s “tea parties,” Republican Govs. Mark Sanford of South Carolina and Rick Perry of Texas will host a tele-town hall Thursday that’s being dubbed “Tea Party 2.0.”

The Republican Governors Association said it is expecting 30,000 people to participate in the town hall, which will take place roughly one month after the much-publicized anti-tax tea party rallies held in hundreds of locations across the country on April 15, the tax filing deadline.

Sanford and Perry will each speak for several minutes before opening up the town hall to up to an hour-long question and answer session…

The RGA, Ayers said, is hoping to use the town hall as a springboard for organizing support and fundraising for key gubernatorial races this year in Virginia and New Jersey.

I might watch just for the entertainment value of seeing them field questions about secession and the inevitable ranting from Paulnuts about the Federal Reserve, but I’m guessing the informational value of this will be relatively low. What do you think, photo op or something more? To the extent that it puts grassroots conservatives in mind for better organizing, it’s all to the good.


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virtual tea party … that’s rich. Maybe they can have “virtual deferments” so people can have an “out” for not virtually attending. Maybe a photo of a virtual boil on an ass.

Monkei on May 12, 2009 at 8:32 PM

gee allah, is there ANYTHING about conservatives that you like?

notagool on May 12, 2009 at 8:43 PM

When Joe the Plumber types get out and protest, that’s different.

When politicians are running in their business suits to lead the parade, that’s the same old stuff.

silverfox on May 12, 2009 at 8:48 PM

Nothing really catches on until version 3.

See you on Independence Day.

curved space on May 12, 2009 at 8:50 PM

It’s yet another odd gimmick. No thanks.

AnninCA on May 12, 2009 at 9:07 PM

The Tea Parties are an anti-establishment movement, so these establishment types are just trying to glom on to the movement to gain some attention. Can’t wait until Meghan McCain hosts her own tea party on MTV. ))))

Mister Ghost on May 12, 2009 at 9:19 PM

The republicans are as phony as the stupid, worthless democraps. To he77 with them all.

Zorro on May 12, 2009 at 9:33 PM

Yeah, thats what we need! I can just do it from home. Push the buttons and feel good. No need to actually go outside and converse with anyone. If only there was a home drive thru.

faol on May 12, 2009 at 9:43 PM

try again later on May 12, 2009 at 8:01 PM

No, I’m not. I’m done with lip service. I don’t care what color flag some politico claims to carry. If they just jack their jaw they aren’t worth my time, or my dime. Deeds. No deeds, no vote. No deeds, no money. Does that leave me out in the wilderness? Fine.

Limerick on May 12, 2009 at 9:58 PM

Sanford has been a fiscal conservative his entire career. He’s credible enough to be involved with these, IMO…

therightwinger on May 12, 2009 at 10:39 PM

flyfisher on May 12, 2009 at 7:26 PM
Wow, there’s some very heartwarming rage on that discussion board. Thanks for posting the link, I’ve bookmarked it for future subversive reading.

califcon on May 12, 2009 at 8:20 PM

Sorry it took me so long to respond. I left my office as soon as I posted that link and am just now back in front of my PC. That board has some of the brightest and most well-informed posters on the net. They aren’t all conservatives, but most are. The focus is Wall Street, the Federal Reserve, the markets, and lately of necessity, politics too. I’ve learned a lot hanging around and discussing all things financial on that site. Karl Denninger, the “Ticker Guy” who posts as “Genesis” and runs the site, gave an excellent, but overlooked, speech at CPAC, where he was given an award for journalism. I really think more in the conservative movement need to consider what he has to say.

flyfisher on May 12, 2009 at 11:59 PM

Wonder if Perry will offer up any sidewiding speech for the Trans-Texas Corridor or for the manditory cervical cancer vaccination program for 12-year-olds he was pushing in 2007 during his Tea Party 2.0 address? (not that I’m a big fan of Kay Bailey, but Perry suddenly rediscovering his conservative bonafieds in 2009 is only a step or two less cynical than Arlen Spector’s machinations to stay in the Senate, especially since the Rick Perry of 2007 seemed to be rediscovering his former Democratic Party affiliation, when he thought the state’s overall electorate was moving to the left after the ’06 election).

jon1979 on May 13, 2009 at 1:59 AM

You know what Sanford should do with SC’s $350 million in stimulus money since Obama will not allow him to pay down debt or use it to build new schools? Cut a check to everyone who filed a tax return in SC which would come out to about $150. It’s our money anyways, just pass it on back to the people to sepend.

cadams on May 13, 2009 at 6:38 AM

the inevitable ranting from Paulnuts about the Federal Reserve
I’m amazed that you would say something like this after the Fed printed (out of thin air, mind you) over a trillion dollars just a couple of months ago. It’s not just Paulnuts that should question the Federal Reserve. Everyone should be taking a second look.

Why, precisely, do we allow our interest rates to be set by fiat rather than by market forces? Why do we allow our currency to be inflated and manipulated by an unelected body? These guys have proven that they’re not even any good at this (witness the bubble that Greenspan’s cheap money created, the cause of the bust we are now experiencing.)

Beatnik Joe on May 13, 2009 at 7:46 AM

the inevitable ranting from Paulnuts about the Federal Reserve

I’m amazed that you would say something like this after the Fed printed (out of thin air, mind you) over a trillion dollars just a couple of months ago. It’s not just Paulnuts that should question the Federal Reserve. Everyone should be taking a second look.

Why, precisely, do we allow our interest rates to be set by fiat rather than by market forces? Why do we allow our currency to be inflated and manipulated by an unelected body? These guys have proven that they’re not even any good at this (witness the bubble that Greenspan’s cheap money created, the cause of the bust we are now experiencing.)

P.S. Preview is your friend.

Beatnik Joe on May 13, 2009 at 7:48 AM

…trying to legislate morality.

strangelet on May 12, 2009 at 7:35 PM

I’m confused. Where else does legislation come from? Or dare I ask, where do you believe it should come from?

anuts on May 13, 2009 at 8:28 AM

Beatnik Joe on May 13, 2009 at 7:48 AM

You’re missing the point. It’s not that consevatives and others don’t have a problem with the Fed, it’s the nature of the debate that concerns some.

Paulnuts can’t help but turn the discussion to conspiratorial clap-trap which turns people off.

There are issues with the Fed. But I don’t need anyone weaving a tail of shadow governments and secret organizations controlling all, seeing all, etc.

Keep the Alex Jones crap where it belongs. Tea parties aren’t the place for it.

catmman on May 13, 2009 at 9:10 AM

Related: GOP, RNC to rebrand Democrats as ‘Socialists’

Democrat Party –> Democrat Socialist Party

YES !

petefrt on May 13, 2009 at 10:01 AM

Um, can we have this story re-written by Ed?

MechEng5by5 on May 13, 2009 at 10:07 AM

Beware of spendthrift pols bearing gifts!!

landlines on May 13, 2009 at 10:28 AM

A MODEST COUNTER-PROPOSAL:

Instead of Virtual Tea Parties, let’s have a Virtual Congress!!

In the Information Age, there is no need for Congressmen to meet in one place in Washington DC where they are easily accessible to lobbyists but remote from their constituents.

A Virtual Congress would allow (or preferrably require) our Congress to conduct most of their business via secure Internet from offices in their home States. This would automatically make the job of lobbyists 50 times harder, and would make oversight by ordinary citizens 50 times easier.

Much foolishness could be avoided if our Congressional representatives are put in a position where they would have to immediately explain their actions to their constituents face-to-face.

landlines on May 13, 2009 at 10:40 AM

Tea Party 2.0, upgraded to add more dishonesty and reliance on polling data.

hawksruleva on May 13, 2009 at 11:08 AM

Tea Party 2.0, upgraded to add more dishonesty and reliance on polling data.

hawksruleva on May 13, 2009 at 11:08 AM

…and, being Virtual, it avoids embarrassing TV news stories showing throngs of thousands of angry citizens by keeping them off the street and out of sight.

landlines on May 13, 2009 at 11:13 AM

I might watch just for the entertainment value of seeing them field questions about secession and the inevitable ranting from Paulnuts about the Federal Reserve

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Fixed. Allah, you’re becoming quite the traitor douchebag, aren’t you?

Is there anything conservative about you anymore? Or did you just completely pull an Anakin Specter on us?

leetpriest on May 13, 2009 at 11:50 AM

Paulnuts can’t help but turn the discussion to conspiratorial clap-trap which turns people off.

There are issues with the Fed. But I don’t need anyone weaving a tail of shadow governments and secret organizations controlling all, seeing all, etc.

catmman on May 13, 2009 at 9:10 AM

Sure, they do very frequently wander off into the weeds of conspiracy theory on this. But would one forego criticism of Barack Obama “in case” people thought that you believed he was a sleeper Muslim? Would one forego criticism of Bill Clinton “just in case” someone thought you believed that he had Vince Foster killed?

The Federal Reserve system as it stands today is not full of bad people — it’s simply a bad idea! Socialized interest rates and the ability to print money without any restraint or discipline are not good things. No conservative or libertarian should enjoy watching the free market “take a bullet” for the problems these bad policies cause.

It’s a shame that even mentioning the obvious problems with the Fed gets you associated with crackpots like Alex Jones.

Beatnik Joe on May 13, 2009 at 12:00 PM

HondaV65 on May 12, 2009 at 7:13 PM

I think you nailed it.

seesalrun on May 13, 2009 at 1:09 PM

It’s a shame that even mentioning the obvious problems with the Fed gets you associated with crackpots like Alex Jones.

Beatnik Joe on May 13, 2009 at 12:00 PM

I see the points in your comment, but again, trying to make a point and then going off on a conspiratorial tangent about Obama being a muslim, etc. will flip the switch on reasoned people.

People need to keep their personal (even conspiratorial) thoughts out of the discussion. I’m not saying folks can’t have those thoughts, or entrtain them in the proper venue. but bringing them to the front or using them to supposedly “bolster” your’re “argumnet” gets you branded that way.

catmman on May 13, 2009 at 2:59 PM

I suspect that the actual Tea Party leadership will be none too happy about this, and will likely release a strongly-worded statement insisting that they do not endorse specific politicians and requesting that Sanford and Perry find another name for their town hall. The Tea Party organizers are not difficult to contact – did the good governors attempt to coordinate with them at all?

I swear, every time I start liking a politician, they pull some crap like this and I just want to wipe the slate clean. Not that Perry and Sanford can’t still be useful to the conservative movement, but seriously, don’t try to commandeer a grassroots movement for your own gain. Tact, folks. Use it.

Animator Girl on May 13, 2009 at 4:06 PM

I see the points in your comment, but again, trying to make a point and then going off on a conspiratorial tangent about Obama being a muslim, etc. will flip the switch on reasoned people.

Well said, and I do completely agree. The Federal Reserve system is in terrible need of reform because central planning and lack of monetary discipline got us here in the first place — not any evil conspiracy.

Tossing a bunch of weak conspiracy theories at the Fed really just helps take the pressure off of their real failings, all of which were acts of inevitable human error (that befall all central planners.)

Beatnik Joe on May 13, 2009 at 5:22 PM

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