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posted at 10:37 pm on May 12, 2009 by Allahpundit
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“As expertise grew in stature in an increasingly science-dominated world, smarts came to be resented – at least in the eyes of the burgeoning modern conservative movement: its adherents saw intellectuals putting themselves above everybody else, speaking with dripping disdain and walling themselves off in ivory towers where their liberal politics made them even more suspect. This is very much what the Reagan revolution was all about, and George W. Bush was its heir. Thus intellect became a central issue in our so-called “culture wars”…

John McCain and Sarah Palin certainly did try out the rhetoric of anti-intellectualism on Obama. Palin mocked the fact that he’d made much of his personal wealth through the sale of books and sneered at research on fruit flies and grizzly bears in a bid to make science sound like a self-indulgent pursuit that spends money but doesn’t produce anything useful. The attacks failed…

The goal must be nothing less than to break the cycle – to make intellectualism a permanent value of American culture. A two-term presidency would help. So would maintaining those early pledges of support to science. And most of all, there is leading by example, continuing to extol thinking, and not being afraid to come to its aid now and again.”


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Vermont Neighbor on May 12, 2009 at 11:57 PM

Hopefully he will not be confronted by radical Islamic intellectuals wielding long knives.

littleguy on May 13, 2009 at 12:00 AM

Crowded, but safe and dry. We’re getting busy already.

hawkdriver on May 12, 2009 at 10:55

Semper Fi.

Johan Klaus on May 13, 2009 at 12:00 AM

Speaking of intellectuals, how did Barry manage to graduate – nay, be accepted into – an Ivy League school without being at least minimally proficient in a foreign language? Did they drop that requirement after I graduated?

disa on May 13, 2009 at 12:01 AM

I like intellectualism. I don’t like what liberals regard as intellectualism.

SheofTwoMinds on May 13, 2009 at 12:01 AM

I don’t need no intellectuals to tell me what to know. Everything you need to know is in the Good Book.

Xenofaction on May 13, 2009 at 12:03 AM

Oh FFS!! Didn’t we have this argument in October or November? It’s nothing more than those pansies on the left trying to belittle the right, because we understand that all the answers can’t always be found in a book/school/marxist society.

In an attempt to belittle us, they beclown themselves. Any chance we can put them on a sit-n-spin? They’ll be just as useful.

todler on May 13, 2009 at 12:04 AM

Definition of Intellectual : of or relating to the intellect or its use b: developed or chiefly guided by the intellect rather than by emotion or experience: rational

It is my observation and conclusion that these people dont even know the actual meaning of the word intellectual

javamartini on May 13, 2009 at 12:05 AM

It really doesn’t matter whether the Left is intellectual or a bunch of troglodytes, they are screwing the free world. That’s what matters.

OldEnglish on May 13, 2009 at 12:06 AM

I like intellectualism. I don’t like what liberals regard as intellectualism.

Exactly. The Left’s version of intellectualism is better known as elitism. It’s called Oligarchy.

pearson on May 13, 2009 at 12:09 AM

…continuing to extol thinking.

I knew the Obama administration was up to something, but I would have never guessed that this was it! If the topic is thinking, this bonehead can’t possibly be stupic enough to believe any of his own drivel, can he? I presume he’s just writing this nonsense to curry favor with his low-brow masters on the Washington cocktail circuit. No?

littleguy on May 13, 2009 at 12:09 AM

Intellectuals are not necessarily intelligent.

A great example of anti-intellectualism is how the left won’t even let textbooks point out that Darwin’s Theory of Evolution is…well…a theory.

In spite of Einstein’s Theory of Relativity being universally accepted and the basis for further theories and research, it is still considered a theory.

However, Darwin’s theory is constantly being revised, is contested by serious scientists (some of them atheist, mind you), and the only new theories it produces are those which cover up the holes in Darwin’s theory…but we’re not allowed to call it a theory.

ynot4tony2 on May 13, 2009 at 12:11 AM

… or stupid, for that matter…

littleguy on May 13, 2009 at 12:11 AM

It’s very handy how this works.

It’s not about intellect or “smarts.” It’s about people who frame the debate in the first place by declaring themselves to be the smart ones (and their opposition, of course, the stupid), and then act surprised when people find that off-putting, as if their original hypotheses were self-evident.

Just as they define themselves as the intellectuals, and their opposition as cretins; they similarly define themselves as enlightened, and their opposition as racists; and so on, and present these self-serving evaluations as self-evident.

That works out very well for them, since if you don’t agree, that’s just more evidence of your stupidity.

I often think of the line from Gladiator when I think of Obama: “The time for honoring yourself will soon be at an end.”

However, on reflection, Obama certainly isn’t alone in this vice. It also applies to Democrats who hold the same beliefs.

Alana on May 13, 2009 at 12:17 AM

ynot4tony2 on May 13, 2009 at 12:11 AM

The theory of evolution.

Johan Klaus on May 13, 2009 at 12:24 AM

Alana on May 13, 2009 at 12:17 AM

This guy has the worst -media exposure- fan base since David Cassidy.

Vermont Neighbor on May 13, 2009 at 12:24 AM

*sshat

Ad hominem I know…but if the shoe (or hat) fits…

Onus on May 13, 2009 at 12:31 AM

Anyone remember the scene in Braveheart with the King and the ‘Strategist’?

- The Cat

MirCat on May 13, 2009 at 12:33 AM

Comment: Hail to the intellectual president

* 12 May 2009 by Chris Mooney

Liar, liar, pants on fire.

Nyah, nyah, smarter than you, Jackson.

Speakup on May 13, 2009 at 12:36 AM

So, how *were* the Occidental College to Harvard transfer students’ grades?

Oh yeah; we’ll never actually know.

noblejones on May 13, 2009 at 12:47 AM

boggles mind…..these guys are so stupid they can think their prez is an intellectual and is a pop hero of E! TV at the same time.

Hint…if you revere a pop icon rivaling Michael Jackson, you are not an intellectual.

r keller on May 13, 2009 at 12:53 AM

izoneguy on May 12, 2009 at 11:33 and 11:34 PM

Some good food for thought there, izoneguy.

Alana on May 13, 2009 at 12:55 AM

Republicans have conceded “pro-science” to Democrats. Worse, Republicans have claimed “anti-science” for themselves. Not that there’s anything particularly intellectual about liberalism, it just looks that way in comparison to the idiotic way Republicans have antagonized scientists over the last decade.

RightOFLeft on May 13, 2009 at 1:01 AM

Palin mocked the fact that he’d made much of his personal wealth through the sale of books

Um, no. She found it ridiculous, as anyone with a brain would, that he made so much wealth from two autobiographies when he isn’t even 50 yet.

Speedwagon82 on May 13, 2009 at 1:02 AM

Dear lord, when are we going to stop letting them frame the debate? We’re not anti-science; they just say we are. We’re not racist; they just say we are. We’re pro-science and pro-equality. Why do we let them frame the debate this way?

JohnJ on May 13, 2009 at 1:13 AM

So, how *were* the Occidental College to Harvard transfer students’ grades?

Oh yeah; we’ll never actually know.

noblejones on May 13, 2009 at 12:47 AM

Oh grades are so damaging to student minds… why do we need to make comparisons between students?

Anyone can tell the young Mr. Obama is charming and smart why would he need to actually know anything about the course….Pass, this row of Fs in our grade book are gone now.

petunia on May 13, 2009 at 1:13 AM

“The trouble with our liberal friends isn’t that they’re ignorant; its that they know so much that isn’t so.” -Ronaldus Magnus

Tacitus on May 13, 2009 at 1:16 AM

Speedwagon82 on May 13, 2009 at 1:02 AM

And had accomplished… … … nothing of enduring value.

T J Green on May 13, 2009 at 1:17 AM

Funny you should mention Eisenhower —

“The prospect of domination of the nation’s scholars by Federal employment, project allocations, and the power of money is ever present — and is gravely to be regarded.

“Yet, in holding scientific research and discovery in respect, as we should, we must also be alert to the equal and opposite danger that public policy could itself become the captive of a scientific-technological elite.(emphasis added)”

This is the conservative mindset. This warning was right after his warning of the Military Industrial Complex — funny how many educated folk forget that part.

Read the whole speech, it could have been written today.
David

LifeTrek on May 13, 2009 at 1:20 AM

I am getting tired and pretty pi$$ed off with these so-called intellectual whack jobs proclaiming themselves to be the smart people in the room and that we who still value liberty, freedom, and the ability to reap the rewards of our work without burdensome taxation are the intellectually inferior.

Obama the “intellectual president”? Yeah, and I’ve got a bridge in NY for sale.

I’d stack Levin up against these rubes any day of the week.

AZfederalist on May 13, 2009 at 1:21 AM

There is nothing more phoney than an egocentric self-appointed intellectual. Unfortunately, America elected one.

kingsjester on May 12, 2009 at 10:45 PM

We have elected a whole government full of them.

petunia on May 13, 2009 at 1:21 AM

There is nothing more phoney than an egocentric self-appointed intellectual. Unfortunately, America elected one.

kingsjester on May 12, 2009 at 10:45 PM

We have elected a whole government full of them.

petunia on May 13, 2009 at 1:21 AM

Something else I find frightening — that there are actually people who would associate the words “smart” and “intellectual” with the likes of Nancy Pelosi, Harry Ried, or ol’ Lonesome Joe Biden. Others of note: Feinstein, Boxer, Clare McCaskil (sp?), and Chuck U Schumer.

AZfederalist on May 13, 2009 at 1:24 AM

Maybe you just have to be smarter than I am to conceive the idea of spending more money than any other human being who has ever walked the earth.

I can’t even begin to wrap my mind around the numbers that Obama just throws around like a basketball.

This is either the most epic failure of a President ever or the birth of a new economic system.

Either way it doesn’t matter how intellectual any of us are we can’t stop him.

petunia on May 13, 2009 at 1:27 AM

The problem with the Liberal version of intellectualism is that it becomes so enamored of abstractions that it allows those abstractions to substitute for a pragmatic appraisal of reality. It’s become a convoluted (or,more properly, involuted) mess of self-referential, Post-Modern sophistry.

One of the main appeals of conservative (broadly defined) thought for me has been a very intellectual one (individuals, given the space to express their liberty and search for various kinds of profit, are far superior problem-solvers than ‘top-down’ hierarchies of planning and bureaucracy)…but it is an intellect which is tempered by humility before ‘ground truth’ of what works in the real world. For, in the end, it is reality which must be the crucible in which our theories solidify or dissolve, according to their merits. In this way do theories evolve.

The Left’s version of intellectualism holds the theory to be ascendant, since it has driven its head so far up its own axioms that it sneers at the very notion that there is a “Real” world at all. Its theories become stagnant and increasingly out of touch with a healthy dialogue between cogitation and observation. Anthropogenic Global Warming is a prime example of this phenomenon in the physical sciences, its proponents hewing to their own ideologically-driven premises as tenaciously as any entrenched clerical body. In the social and economic sciences, it is the stubborn refusal to acknowledge the dismal failure of statist, centrally-planned economic schemes wherever they have been tried. And so they keep trying, blaming a host of external forces (e.g., the Evil Bush Regime in the US, or the obstructionist meddling of Capitalist nations during the Cold War, etc.) when it is the theory itself which has failed the test of history.

The bottom line is that the Liberal Academic Intellectual machine is a power base, with influence and funding streams to protect. It lashes out at competing power bases (e.g., corporate interests…even as it taps the veins of their prosperity) because it perceives a threat.

Here’s hoping we find the sorts of communicators who can give them much more to perceive!

Noocyte on May 13, 2009 at 1:45 AM

If there’s an “anti-intellectual” bias in Americans, it’s not because intellectuals are smarter, it’s because professional intellectuals often believe their knowledge gives them the right to tell everyone else what to do and how to live.

Some of the worst dictatorships on the planet grew from people who believed their ideas gave them the right to force humanity into their own molds.

The only real evidence of Obama’s genius seems to be a large number of people pointing at him and saying “look at the genius!”

tbrosz on May 13, 2009 at 1:57 AM

If scientist want respect they need to stop trying to sell us crap like global warming.

Kjeil on May 13, 2009 at 2:09 AM

When science and knowledge are sold out in order to get a government grant or other funding……………

……….. or those in the know go along with political speak instead of true science less be demonized in an Al Gore movie,

Then call them what they are…………

…………….. prostitutes.

Seven Percent Solution on May 13, 2009 at 2:18 AM

Obamanomics might be the first real challenge the dominance of perception over reality has in American politics. How long can Obama crash the economy before people notice his, and the media’s, spin does not match reality?

18-1 on May 12, 2009 at 11:20 PM

Probably until the fridge is empty & the hunger sets in I’m afraid.

Cheesestick on May 13, 2009 at 2:41 AM

Definition of Intellectual : of or relating to the intellect or its use b: developed or chiefly guided by the intellect rather than by emotion or experience: rational

It is my observation and conclusion that these people dont even know the actual meaning of the word intellectual…

javamartini on May 13, 2009 at 12:05 AM

Random Definition of Intellectual : Someone who can listen to the William Tell Overture without thinking of the Lone Ranger.

Random Numbers (Brian Epps) on May 13, 2009 at 3:00 AM

Republicans win when the country is threatened.

Democrats win when they can promise to punish the rich and give hand outs.

Pretty simple formula really.

Dr. ZhivBlago on May 13, 2009 at 4:22 AM

Does anybody know if it’s JUST Waterboarding that’s off the table and Sleep Deprivation and Belly Slaps and Walling still allowed?

I’ve tried to stay on top of this subject but I can’t find any mention of specifically if anything BESIDES waterboarding has been banned by the Obama Administration.

The reason I ‘m asking is because a lot of the moonbat posters at the Rotten Tomatoes Off Topic Discussion site HAVE classified Sleep Deprivation, Cold Rooms and Slapping as ‘Torture’.

It would be perfect if Obama is going to continue to allow them.

But I can’t find ANYTHING that says anything other than Waterboarding has been stopped. I don’t want to go off half-cocked here.

So…………….sleep deprivation and cold rooms and slapping still allowed? Yes or no? Anybody know?

manofaiki on May 13, 2009 at 5:40 AM

This came from “New Scientist” magazine….

Well, I’ll tell ya… I much prefer the “Old Scientist” method… You know…. The kind that based their science on, well, SCIENCE, rather than political agenda, as “New Scientist” does.

LegendHasIt on May 13, 2009 at 5:53 AM

Obama can’t even recite the alphabet without a teleprompter, and this man considers him an “intellectual”?!??!! Please!!

ToddonCapeCod on May 13, 2009 at 6:00 AM

Obama is one who contemplates on a higher plane

blatantblue on May 13, 2009 at 6:30 AM

Not everyone who graduates with an advanced degree is an “intellectual”. Thomas Sowell and Victor Davis Hanson are true intellectuals, and I’d be happy to have either as President. Obama is a fake, through and through; he is a man of slightly above-average intellect, but hardly the super genius he is made out to be.

Logic on May 13, 2009 at 6:30 AM

Obama

Peas be upon him

Is the picture of human existence.

blatantblue on May 13, 2009 at 6:32 AM

Prince of princes
King of kings
Viceroy of viceroys

Obarfy

blatantblue on May 13, 2009 at 6:34 AM

historian Richard Hofstadter was told by his mommy, over and over, how smart and special he was. Ultimately it became ingrained in him and resulted in the development of a particularly arrogant and unlikeable human being.

peacenprosperity on May 13, 2009 at 6:35 AM

Palin would have been much more badly for America.

Midnightrain on May 13, 2009 at 6:35 AM

So…………….sleep deprivation and cold rooms and slapping still allowed?

Only on lawyers who worked for republican administrations.

peacenprosperity on May 13, 2009 at 6:39 AM

I don’t think anyone knows whether the president is really smart or not. To me he appears to be someone who has had his self esteem pumped up on a continuous basis. He buys everything his worshipers say hook line and sinker. The looks on his face that the camera catches can’t be an accident. And more telling is his reaction when people say NO. I would use that as the loyal opposition. I believe it is the chink in his armor.

Cindy Munford on May 13, 2009 at 6:42 AM

I think prince obarfy is a very smart man and I don’t underestimate him.

He seems to be a highly adaptive creature, and as a result his political prowess may grow in time.

But he isn’t some higher contemplative being. Not some prodigy.

blatantblue on May 13, 2009 at 7:21 AM

Dear goopers, here’s your problem. Obama is way smarter than Bush,Limbaugh or whatever other mouthbreather you send out to argue against him. Plain and simple. Rush knows it, Hanitty knows it, that is why they attack him every day, nonstop. I actually like it, it shows that the conservative movement is out of ideas and out of gas. And yes, you goopers are totally anti-science. Palin was a perfect spokesperson for the anti-science wing of the gop. All you people want to do is wave your flags and your bibles in everyones faces. You want to force your values on everyone, and Americans have thrown your smug behinds out the door. What lessons do people learn from this? Nothing. There is no dialogue with anyone, your way is right and thats the way it is. Fine. Keep on taking your whippings at the polls.

athensboy on May 13, 2009 at 7:22 AM

Mooney is full of …..

Obama is a former academic?

A part time law school lecturer who wrote nothing for the Harvard Law Review and wrote nothing while was he was a lecturer is no intellectual. He is not a former academic.

Obama’s considering all sides of an issue is a cover for procrastination and indecision. That it is why it took three days to save Captain Phillips.

How long a decision window does have a president have when an ICBM is heading for the States?

Barry is not up to making the right decision quickly.

That is why he is back tracking on the abuse photographs.

slp on May 13, 2009 at 7:25 AM

And hey, just because someone bought Obama’s book, doesn’t mean they read it. I would bet word for word, it’s the least read book in mass print in all of human history. Especially since 80% of the Obama vote is semi-literate.

NoDonkey on May 12, 2009 at 10:43 PM

Although I agree with you in principle, I still think Hawkings “A Brief History of Time” holds that crown and probably always will.

Ann NY on May 13, 2009 at 7:30 AM

athensboy on May 13, 2009 at 7:22 AM

Yes — he’s so smart, using Keyensian economics on steroids.

Sheesh.

blatantblue on May 13, 2009 at 7:32 AM

LOL Athensboy…Obama is such a genius he has gone to great lenghts so that no one will ever actually see the measurement of his intelligence that is his actual grades…they must be so stellar that his people don’t want to release them so as not to make all others feel inadequate right? Right??

You moron.

javamartini on May 13, 2009 at 7:39 AM

athensboy on May 13, 2009 at 7:22 AM

So using that logic, President Bush is smarter than everyone at MSNBC, ABC, CBS, CNN, NYT, and every Democratic politician that was in office during Bush’s time as President. Because that’s all they did, attack Bush.

What strikes me, Limbaugh and Hannity are just two voices. And according to the left, irrelevant. Just show’s how thinned skinned and full of hypocrisy the left is. Don’t forget your leftie chant about dissent being patriotic.

Or has that changed to “pray at the alter of Obama or yo jus plain dum….”

Hog Wild on May 13, 2009 at 7:41 AM

How do we know he’s sooooooo smart? Just because all the lib-dopes keep repeating it? How about releasing some grades, Barry? Or maybe some deep intellectual thoughts and writings from your days as the esteemed editor of the harvard law review.

What they won’t support the lie you are living? Yuh, thought so.

Alden Pyle on May 13, 2009 at 7:46 AM

Obama’s intellectual prowess doesn’t extend to mathematics as he things increasing the debt by 1000% equals spending cuts.

angryed on May 13, 2009 at 8:07 AM

athensboy on May 13, 2009 at 7:22 AM

Hint: when lecturing others about intellectualism, try to not make grammatical mistakes that are corrected by 3rd grade.

That is all.

angryed on May 13, 2009 at 8:10 AM

Cindy Munford on May 13, 2009 at 6:42 AM

I like your observation. When reading it, not only were you describing the president but a spoiled three-year old toddler, as well. Especially the part about saying NO.

sherry on May 13, 2009 at 8:28 AM

Please forward this video to everyone in America, particularly everyone in your local government, and then follow up and accomplish!
http://tinyurl.com/q38c2t

rrobin on May 13, 2009 at 8:29 AM

he irony of the pseudo intellect is they can’t have a good debate. Just name calling and attacks.

Uneducated people gobble this up. Look, Obama has the welfare group and the drop outs. They of course get online degrees from Oprah shows. They believe obama is all knowing because he says he is. cheney is having his way because he has know for years what Obama denied.

seven on May 13, 2009 at 8:31 AM

Dear lord, when are we going to stop letting them frame the debate? We’re not anti-science; they just say we are. We’re not racist; they just say we are. We’re pro-science and pro-equality. Why do we let them frame the debate this way?

JohnJ

It’s not that we let them. They have the MSM. We have talk radio and a few blogs (for now). Most Americans get their “news” from the MSM. Conservative media is greatly outnumbered and true conservative intellectuals are ignored. Only faux-conservative, pseudo-intellectuals are even given minimal credence. When you stand for truth and principles you stand alone.

SKYFOX on May 13, 2009 at 8:35 AM

Look, O Creator of Worlds.
Just call it Kylonism instead of Palinism.
Oh, pardon….knowledge of ancient greek history…..that would be one of those horrible intellectual qualities, right?

strangelet on May 13, 2009 at 8:35 AM

I don’t mind Obama being a thinker, its when he starts doing stuff I get concerned…more thinking less action would be good.
.

philly_nj on May 13, 2009 at 8:39 AM

It’s beginning to look as though the writers of Stargate were psychic.

All hail the Ori!

OldEnglish on May 13, 2009 at 8:39 AM

This just doesn’t seem to be a smart way to run a country. But what would I know? I’m just an anti-intellectual rube who went to Cow College. Don’t got none of them fancy Ivy League degrees.

notropis on May 13, 2009 at 8:40 AM

Well….from a pragmatic POV, as long as the GOP can be successfully branded as the party of torches and pitchforks, you wont get the youth vote, the academic vote, or the college-educated vote.
That means in turn, that academia, science, and youth culture BELONG to the other side by default.
Good luck with that strat.
It is working so well for you.

strangelet on May 13, 2009 at 8:52 AM

Republicans and conservatives aren’t anti science, they are anti socialist policies and hoaxes that are masked in a ’scientific’ or ‘academic’ or ‘intellectual’ veneer. We are speaking truth to power, or to put it in terms libtards might understand, our ‘dissent is the highest form of intellectualism’.

eaglewingz08 on May 13, 2009 at 8:53 AM

Good grief, is there no end to their elitist arrogance. If they have so many brains, why don’t they use them once in a while?

Carter was supposed to be brainy, and look what happened to us with him.

Obama = Carter x 10

petefrt on May 13, 2009 at 8:59 AM

Obama is way smarter than Bush,Limbaugh or whatever other mouthbreather you send out to argue against him.

athensboy on May 13, 2009 at 7:22 AM

I see this out and about. I always wonder, “what evidence is there of this statement?”

anuts on May 13, 2009 at 9:03 AM

I like intellectualism. I don’t like what liberals regard as intellectualism.

SheofTwoMinds on May 13, 2009 at 12:01 AM

Likewise.

petefrt on May 13, 2009 at 9:17 AM

I like INTELLIGENCE. Intellectualism is more like a cult of the Ivy League. The idea that a small group of people has all the solutions is dangerous, and wrong. Intellectualism is really elitism in disguise.

Intellectualism is how we got Tim Geithner, and the government running the auto industry.

How about effortism? Instead of a belief that conversations at parties in the Hamptons can solve problems, a belief that hard work can solve problems.

hawksruleva on May 13, 2009 at 9:25 AM

Republicans and conservatives aren’t anti science, they are anti socialist policies and hoaxes that are masked in a ’scientific’ or ‘academic’ or ‘intellectual’ veneer. We are speaking truth to power, or to put it in terms libtards might understand, our ‘dissent is the highest form of intellectualism’.

eaglewingz08 on May 13, 2009 at 8:53 AM

Yeah, right, but what do people see?
I’m sure it feels wunnerful to give those snobby elitist scientists, academics and college kids a righteous smackdown….I’m sure Kylon and his posse felt great as they chopped up those snobby pythagorean intellectuals with scythes and burned their temple.
But there wasn’t a flash news media cycle in 500 BC in Croton.
So all the intellectual and elite bashing makes you guyz feel good, but it is not productive.
The electorate sees a bunch of envious pissed off whiners.
Is that who you are?

strangelet on May 13, 2009 at 9:26 AM

Oh, pardon….knowledge of ancient greek history…..that would be one of those horrible intellectual qualities, right?

strangelet on May 13, 2009 at 8:35 AM

No, that’s more the horrible quality of pretentiousness.

That means in turn, that academia, science, and youth culture BELONG to the other side by default.
Good luck with that strat.
It is working so well for you.

strangelet on May 13, 2009 at 8:52 AM

They’ve pretty much belonged to the other side by default for a while.

But let’s see: the collective comparative intellect of O-bots and conservatives. You really, really don’t want to go there.

ddrintn on May 13, 2009 at 9:27 AM

Well….from a pragmatic POV, as long as the GOP can be successfully branded as the party of torches and pitchforks, you wont get the youth vote, the academic vote, or the college-educated vote.
That means in turn, that academia, science, and youth culture BELONG to the other side by default.
Good luck with that strat.
It is working so well for you.

strangelet on May 13, 2009 at 8:52 AM

Perception is not reality, no matter the branding…chickens come home to roost eventually. You do make a good point though, we should not wait for the eventual collapse to change this perception. The problem is, how do you convince people that they are headed to ruin when facts reason and logic dont work?

The trolls on this site are a perfect example of reason thrown out the window…look at athensboy….he states Obama as being the smartest President in history with absolutely no evidence to back it up, hell, they cant even display Obama’s grades for crying out loud…

javamartini on May 13, 2009 at 9:30 AM

I don’t mind Obama being a thinker, its when he starts doing stuff I get concerned…more thinking less action would be good.
.

philly_nj on May 13, 2009 at 8:39 AM

There’s no evidence that Obama actually does any productive thinking. His ideas are based on group consensus, generally inspired by traditional liberal ideals and motivitated by an animal survival instinct: pack mentality. Thus, Obama’s “ideas” are really a reflexive desire to reward groups that aided his Presidential Campaigns: unions, ACORN, maybe even the Palestinians.

Example: Obama’s new “plan” to turn the economy around was the same as his plan to overhaul the economy during the campaign. Never mind that he admits his energy policy will drive big coal out of business, he now claims it’s a stimulus plan. There was no thinking involved – Axelrod just slapped a new label on the old package.

GITMO, “overseas contingency operations”, torture memos, stem cells, none of these decisions indicated any deep, considered thought for future consequences, or the existing evidence. They were all based on the liberal stereotypes and assumptions, assumptions that are generally wrong PRECISELY because they are unchallenged and thus unintelligent.

hawksruleva on May 13, 2009 at 9:33 AM

The trolls on this site are a perfect example of reason thrown out the window…look at athensboy….he states Obama as being the smartest President in history with absolutely no evidence to back it up, hell, they cant even display Obama’s grades for crying out loud…

javamartini on May 13, 2009 at 9:30 AM

Forgive them. All they know is what Jon Stewart tells them.

ddrintn on May 13, 2009 at 9:34 AM

Obama is way smarter than Bush,Limbaugh or whatever other mouthbreather you send out to argue against him.

athensboy on May 13, 2009 at 7:22 AM

When we’ve got beauty pageant contestants who are smarter than the leader of the Democrat party, it’s no reason for you to be smug.

ddrintn on May 13, 2009 at 9:40 AM

Well, that was a mouthful, eh? What’s fascinating to me is that intellectualism is, by definition, separate from experience-based knowledge. And neither is superior to intelligence, which combines the two.

I’ve known intellectuals who really weren’t all that bright, and non-intellectuals who really were so bright that nobody would question their intelligence within 10 minutes of meeting them.

And while I truly enjoy the more intellectual of politicos, they have come to some of the funnier conclusions and pushed the most absurd arguments in order to solidify their desired outcome. The most brilliant of intellects are those like Bill Clinton, who have the flexibility to translate concepts into examples that resonate with people.

In short, whatever in the world does this have to do with the price of housing? :)

AnninCA on May 13, 2009 at 9:41 AM

If Obama is an intellectual, then I am the Queen of England.

It’s all about nuance.

bluelightbrigade on May 13, 2009 at 10:01 AM

If intellectualism is defined as a sense of superiority over others because they didn’t go to a school with as big a representation as the one you went to. The kind of intellectualism practiced by most liberals.

Then yes, I have no use for intellectuals.

MarkTheGreat on May 13, 2009 at 10:10 AM

Personally, I’m willing to have an IQ contest with the genius in the White House and any random 10 people from the upper echelons of government.

If I lose, I go to gitmo, and the country continues it’s descent towards communist Russia.

If they lose, they go to Gitmo, I run the government, dismantle THE GOVERNMENT instead of private enterprise, and the country will begin to thrive again immediately.

notagool on May 13, 2009 at 10:54 AM

A tenet of intellectualism is intellectual honesty.

The powers that be don’t have it, don’t practice it, and revel in its absence.

Once intellectual honesty returns to the fold of so-called intellectuals, then come back and lecture us, mmmkay?

catmman on May 13, 2009 at 11:02 AM

Dear lord, when are we going to stop letting them frame the debate? We’re not anti-science; they just say we are. We’re not racist; they just say we are. We’re pro-science and pro-equality. Why do we let them frame the debate this way?

JohnJ on May 13, 2009 at 1:13 AM

A REALLY good point!

But liberal POLITICAL thinking has so dominated our education system (or what’s left of it) that CRITICAL, reality-based thinking has gone out the window–we have become a nation of sheeple, who jump on the bandwagon of every self-proclaimed “intellectual” spouting hare-brained ideas that have failed repeatedly throughout history, because few people STUDY history any more except to rewrite it, and reality-based “common sense” which rejects such ideas isn’t very common any more.

People need to wake up to the fact that what passes for “science” in the mainstream media is neither objective nor scientific. Many scientific and technical journals have been taken over by editors pushing an agenda: evolution, embryonic stem-cells, cloning, global warming, string theory, so that articles on experimental studies which contradict the editors’ OPINION are systematically rejected by “peer reviewers” regardless of scientific merit, so that the PUBLISHED articles unanimously support the editors’ OPINION. In an age of “publish or perish”, the politically-correct “scientists” get published and receive funding, and those whose findings contradict politically-correct thought run out of money.

Science is NOT speculation, of some intellectual in an ivory tower dreaming up some grandiose new theory of the universe so divorced from reality that it can never be tested. But this is what passes for “science” in popular scientific journals designed for “laymen” with no training in real science.

REAL science is actually trial and error–doing repeated experiments, reading the results of other people’s experiments, and developing theories that fit the data, and being willing to change them or abandon them if they are later proven wrong. Theory should fit real-world data, but in today’s world of “science”, data are cherry-picked and fudged to fit pre-ordained politically-correct theories, and annoying contradictory data are rejected as “outliers”.

So here is what “intellectuals” have done to “science”:

“Science” says man evolved from a primordial soup by magic, even though well-established chemistry and biology tell us that a living cell could never assemble itself from non-living matter by chance alone.

“Science” says we should destroy human embryos for stem cells, even though embryonic stem cells have NEVER cured a single disease, while adult stem-cells have had dozens of clinical successes.

“Science” tells us that certain rocks off the coast of Hawaii MUST be millions of years old due to the fossils found in them, although historians who observed them form tell us they are less than 200 years old.

“Science” tells us that carbon dioxide in the air will cause catastrophic global warming, although the Vikings settled and named Greenland and raised sheep there during the llth and 12th centuries, when CO2 levels were lower, and the Earth has cooled over the last 11 years while CO2 levels have continued to rise.

“Science” tells us we should “grow renewable fuel” by converting corn to ethanol, despite the fact that almost as much energy is burned to raise corn as is obtained from ethanol, and the world is deprived of the food value of corn in order to prevent the burning of non-comestible gasoline.

Dear liberal “intellectuals” divorced from reality in your high-falutin’ ivory towers: We conservatives are pro-science! We want REAL science, based on testable FACTS, not opinions, that serves humanity with the TRUTH. We want REAL science to burst forth past the gatekeepers in the media and “science” journals and the United Nations, to be read by a general public with eyes and minds wide open! We are NOT stupid, and we KNOW that you have manipulated the public to your false and unscientific fantasies to enrich yourselves, and the gatekeepers FEAR the TRUTH, which can set us free!

The trick is…how to we communicate the truth to a majority of voters, most of whom have little training in science?

Steve Z on May 13, 2009 at 11:13 AM

sneered at research on fruit flies and grizzly bears in a bid to make science sound like a self-indulgent pursuit that spends money but doesn’t produce anything useful.

This is crap. Criticizing the use of government funds for specific studies does not equal denigrating science itself. I’ve written grants for government funding of studies regarding the care of critically ill patients. It is reasonable to question the relative value of one study vs another, and its usefulness to the public and thus appropriateness for gov’t funding.

Was there nobody to edit this piece?

mikeyboss on May 13, 2009 at 11:44 AM

Dear lord, when are we going to stop letting them frame the debate? We’re not anti-science; they just say we are. We’re not racist; they just say we are. We’re pro-science and pro-equality. Why do we let them frame the debate this way?

JohnJ on May 13, 2009 at 1:13 AM

The Liberals are the PC police, thats why. We constantly find ourselver having to react to their bonehead assertions.

What those eggheads dont understand is that PC is not the same as Intellectual . What good is an Intellectual that is too stupid to pour pi$$ out of a boot with instructions on the heel, or too stupid to understand that 10 trillion is too much debt?

saiga on May 13, 2009 at 12:26 PM

Is it intellectual to do things that have always failed in the past and expect different results? Raising taxes in a recession? What about wanting to reduce the welfare flunkie class by paying them more to sit on their asses and make cash cow offspring? How about rewarding illegal immigrants for ignoring out immigration laws?

Pseudo intellectuals are not true intellectuals. It takes some common sense to be a true intellectual.

saiga on May 13, 2009 at 12:36 PM

Praise Science! Wait … what? Let’s not forget that the disdain for ivory tower thought is well deserved. As a lad that once aspired to be one of those ivory tower sages I can affirm that it’s an arrogant bunch that is just as opinionated and obstinate as the general population. The only difference is that occasionally the opinions of those in ivory towers are given great credence and results in the death of millions. The Russian revolution is a prime example. It was a revolution engineered by intellectuals who felt their influence was insufficient given their superior education and intellect.

Let’s not delude ourselves into believing that what is developed as theory in ivory towers does not impact the real world. Acolytes of these ivory tower sages go out into the real world and attempt to institute the grand visions of great minds without questioning the consequences of these theories largely divorced from history and a real understanding of the human costs. These theories have an impact in real life and the rejection of the advice of these geniuses is not undeserved. But, this does not mean a complete rejection of intellectualism. It simply requires an equally robust sense of cynicism if we hope to avoid the mistakes of the past.

The current issue of global warming, and the policies that are being enacted, is a prime example. As a result of scientific research within an infant field, politicians are advocating policies that could potentially result in the deaths of millions of people around the world and immense suffering that will result from economic turmoil. They do this in spite of the fact that the theory of anthropomorphic climate change is fundamentally flawed.

All good scientific theories must be falsifiable, meaning they must be able to be tested and proven incorrect. Global warming theory (climate change theory) does not meet this standard, because, regardless of the data that results, the theory remains. It’s junk science of the highest order and it is a perfect example of the perils that result when science is treated as a religion and scientists as the priests. Replacing one god with another by a different name does not demonstrate enlightenment. It demonstrates the diversity of ignorance.

Stickeehands on May 13, 2009 at 12:49 PM

Speaking of intellectuals, how did Barry manage to graduate – nay, be accepted into – an Ivy League school without being at least minimally proficient in a foreign language? Did they drop that requirement after I graduated?

disa on May 13, 2009 at 12:01 AM

Prolly not a requirement for affirmative action selectees

E L Frederick (Sniper One) on May 13, 2009 at 1:09 PM

To paraphrase Orwell, there are ideas so ridiculous that only an intellectual could believe them.

Hence the ascendancy of multiculturalism, feminism, environmentalism, and a whole of of other historical -isms that have adulterated genuine intelligence with profound consequences.

Funny how the libs are pro-science when some of the biggest anti-vax quacks are libs, a good portion are totally against genetic engineering of medicine and food, anti-chemistry, are utterly anti-nuke, and pretty much against any science performed by companies actually making a profit.

Dave_d on May 12, 2009 at 11:54 PM

Excellent point, Dave_d.

cheeflo on May 13, 2009 at 1:42 PM

Interllectualism does not = commonsensalism.

These two are never mutually inherited.
In fact, I can personally say that most of my 7 years of college did nothing but try & rip the common sense from my breast at every turn.

Badger40 on May 13, 2009 at 2:31 PM

E L Frederick (Sniper One) on May 13, 2009 at 1:09 PM

He does speak Indonesian from his childhood years there. Dunno his proficiency level or if that counts.

cs89 on May 13, 2009 at 2:55 PM

Few aspects of modern liberalism offend me so much as its adherents’ belief that they have a monopoly on intellect. I got into an argument with a liberal coworker during the election, and he tried to tell me that I was “close-minded” after revealing that he actually knew no facts at all: he was getting all of his information from the Colbert Report. A similar argument with another liberal coworker ended with him conceding that he was essentially unfamiliar with the Constitution, but still asserting that Bush had trampled all over it. Both of these people thought that Obama was brilliant and Palin was an idiot.

I’ve begun to discover that many of the most brilliant historical thinkers were actually self-taught, leading me to the belief that intellectual curiosity has more value than an actual degree. Not to say that a college education is worthless, of course (I went to college, too), I just think that the idea that anyone WITHOUT an ivy-league education is a fool (or that no one with an ivy-league education could possibly be a fool) is a destructive concept that will, in the end, encourage intellectual conformity.

Animator Girl on May 13, 2009 at 3:53 PM

I like intellectualism. I don’t like what liberals regard as intellectualism.

SheofTwoMinds on May 13, 2009 at 12:01 AM

+100

I’ve begun to discover that many of the most brilliant historical thinkers were actually self-taught, leading me to the belief that intellectual curiosity has more value than an actual degree. Not to say that a college education is worthless, of course (I went to college, too), I just think that the idea that anyone WITHOUT an ivy-league education is a fool (or that no one with an ivy-league education could possibly be a fool) is a destructive concept that will, in the end, encourage intellectual conformity.

Animator Girl on May 13, 2009 at 3:53 PM

Not commenting on their political views, but what do the following all have in common?

John Jacob Astor
Ronald Baron (founder of Baron Capital)
Irving Berlin
Carl Bernstein
Ray Bradbury
Richard Branson (founder of Virgin Music)
Sergey Brin (founder of Google)
Warren Buffett
Ben Nighthorse Campbell
Andrew Carnegie
John Catsimatidis (billionaire oilman and real estate magnate)
Winston Churchill
Grover Cleveland
Jimmy Dean (the founder of Jimmy Dean Foods)
Michael Dell (Dell Computers)
Felix Dennis (Publisher of Maxim)
Richard DeVos (co-founder of Amway)
Barry Diller
Walt Disney
Benjamin Franklin
R. Buckminster Fuller
Bill Gates
John Glenn
William Randolph Hearst

They are all college drop outs or never attended college.

coyoterex on May 13, 2009 at 5:35 PM

athensboy on May 13, 2009 at 7:22 AM

I’ll allow that Obama seems to be a lot smarter than his supporters.

James on May 13, 2009 at 5:41 PM

A teacher in Elmira, New York asked her 6th grade class how many of them were Obama fans..

Not really knowing what an Obama fan is, but wanting to be liked by the teacher, all the kids raised their hands except for Little Johnny.

The teacher asked Little Johnny why he has decided to be different… again.

Little Johnny said, “Because I’m not an Obama fan.”

The teacher asked, “Why aren’t you an Obama fan?”

Johnny said, “Because I’m a Republican.”

The teacher asked him why he’s a Republican.

Little Johnny answered, “Well, my Mom’s a Republican and my Dad’s a Republican, so I’m a Republican.”

Annoyed by this answer, the teacher asked, “If your Mom was a moron
and your Dad was an idiot, what would that make you?”

With a big smile, Little Johnny replied, “That would make me an Obama fan.”

LegendHasIt on May 13, 2009 at 6:35 PM

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