Oh my: Obama to reverse decision on releasing new Abu Ghraib photos?

posted at 6:04 pm on May 12, 2009 by Allahpundit

Nothing’s solid yet but both Tapper and Bill Kristol noticed some extra nuance in Gibbs’s comments today:

MR. GIBBS: Well, obviously the president has great concern about any impact that pictures of potential detainee abuse, in the past, could have on the present-day service members that are protecting our freedom either in Iraq, Afghanistan or throughout the world. That’s something the president is very cognizant of. And we are working to — we are working currently to figure out what the process is, moving forward.

Q Does that mean the decision could be reversed?

MR. GIBBS: I don’t want to get into that right now.

Kristol thinks that, at a minimum, The One will appeal the Second Circuit’s order that the photos be published: “The release of photos is less justifiable than that of memos in terms of the public’s right to know, soldiers are more popular than lawyers, and this wouldn’t be a (however distasteful) assault on the actions of a previous administration–this would be a gratuitous assault on the well-being and the reputation of our fighting men and women.” A fair point — Obama can afford to be seen as anti-CIA but not “anti-military” — although I wonder if he’s backpedaled so far on issues related to terrorism by now that he simply has to appease his base with this. He’s doubling down in Afghanistan; thanks to Pelosi, the torture debate is blowing up in his face (even by the admission of some lefties); he’s going forward with military tribunals; and on and on. Don’t think Cheney’s forgotten about those CIA memos that supposedly prove the value of enhanced interrogation, either: He promised Fox News this afternoon that he’s not going to “roll over” for Obama, even as liberals on WaPo’s op-ed page are starting to wonder if he’s right about torture after all. The One’s got to give the left something; why not give them this? He can blame the whole thing on the court order and call a presser to emphasize that the pics aren’t representative of the actions of the military as a whole, most members of which behave with impeccable discipline, etc. I’ll be surprised if he reverses himself.

As a gloss on this subject, two videos from this morning of another Cheney who’s quite persuasive but who made a bad mistake in the Fox News interview when she framed the decision to release the photos as further evidence of it having become “fashionable for us to side, really, with the terrorists.” The media’s already seized on it and the left will go duly berserk, adding pressure on Obama to proceed with the release and not cave to the right. It’s a shame because the rest of the interview’s quite good, as is her exchange with Eugene Robinson in the MSNBC clip. At least watch the part at 10:50 when she freezes him by asking if he really wouldn’t waterboard KSM if he thought it could save lives.

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Obama to reverse decision on releasing new Abu Ghraib photos?

Pelosi begged him not to ;)

Upstater85 on May 12, 2009 at 6:07 PM

Another expiration date reached.

Bruno Strozek on May 12, 2009 at 6:10 PM

Sanity to prevail?

therightwinger on May 12, 2009 at 6:10 PM

Barack Obama is like a good marble loaf.

Hard and smooth on the outside, but
CUUURRAAAAZZZZZY
ON THE INSIDE!!!

blatantblue on May 12, 2009 at 6:11 PM

Cap and trade off the table? EPA says greenhouse effect “not proven”? Obama choosing not to release national security-compromising photos?

What is this, Bizarro Tuesday?

LibTired on May 12, 2009 at 6:11 PM

He can’t change his mind, I might actually think he cared about something other than himself.

Cindy Munford on May 12, 2009 at 6:11 PM

LibTired on May 12, 2009 at 6:11 PM

DO DO DO DO

You have reached, the Political Twightlight Zone….

DO DO DO ODODODOODOD

upinak on May 12, 2009 at 6:12 PM

Aw, give Barry a break. He’s just not as good at this whole triangulation thing as Billy Jeff was.

TheUnrepentantGeek on May 12, 2009 at 6:12 PM

Jesse Ventura: I would prosecute every person who was involved in that torture. I would prosecute the people that did it, I would prosecute the people that ordered it, because torture is against the law.”
Larry King: You were a Navy S.E.A.L.
Jesse Ventura: Yes, and I was waterboarded [in training] so I know… It is torture…I’ll put it to you this way: You give me a waterboard, Dick Cheney and one hour, and I’ll have him confess to the Sharon Tate murders.

strangelet on May 12, 2009 at 6:13 PM

anyone think the plan to restore Bushes popularity, is to send the Cheney’s out to do the dirty work on this, make all the points, while Bush lays low? good cop, bad cop routine?

jp on May 12, 2009 at 6:14 PM

There was a judge’s order on this. I hope the One hasn’t blown the appeal period, because I’m not sure how he’d do this otherwise.

Wethal on May 12, 2009 at 6:14 PM

pretty pathetic that the left now is resorting to 9/11 Troofers like Ventura to make their points against waterboarding.

jp on May 12, 2009 at 6:15 PM

That said, I think Obama should defer to Petraeus and the JCS on releasing the pics, give blanket pardons and initiate a truth commission.

strangelet on May 12, 2009 at 6:15 PM

strangelet on May 12, 2009 at 6:13 PM

umm jesse ventrua is obsolute and thinks that the sky is falling. That is what happens when you have alcohol and steroid on a continual basis.

upinak on May 12, 2009 at 6:16 PM

“Something you would say when you were 16″? Is Eugene saying he’s a 16 year old writer?

CFL on May 12, 2009 at 6:16 PM

The media’s already seized on it and the left will go duly berserk, adding pressure on Obama to proceed with the release and not cave to the right.

On the other hand, if somebody accused a Cheney of being a terrorist, even as a lousy attempt at a joke, AP would keep his cool and ignore it.

radiofreevillage on May 12, 2009 at 6:16 PM

Very telling that strangelet is getting talking points from that idiot Ventura and that lich, Larry King. Next.

ManInBlack on May 12, 2009 at 6:17 PM

Oh, come on, Jesse Ventura, everyone knows that Bill Ayers and O. J. Simpson committed the Sharon Tate murders.

onlineanalyst on May 12, 2009 at 6:19 PM

Liz Cheney/Palin
2012

Knucklehead on May 12, 2009 at 6:20 PM

That said, I think Obama should defer to Petraeus and the JCS on releasing the pics, give blanket pardons and initiate a truth commission.

strangelet on May 12, 2009 at 6:15 PM

As long as Pelosi is on the board, I think that would be a swell idea.

Upstater85 on May 12, 2009 at 6:20 PM

Liz Cheney is more articulate than 90% of any Republican office holder today. Bravo Ms. Cheney.

portlandon on May 12, 2009 at 6:20 PM

Maybe they didn’t want to release the pics for fear of Bawney Frank being prosecuted…

Bawney and Nancy: Standing up for the rights of torturers…

Upstater85 on May 12, 2009 at 6:23 PM

jp on May 12, 2009 at 6:14 PM

I don’t know what anyone else thinks but I don’t think W would speak out regardless of what VP Cheney is doing. It’s not his style.

Cindy Munford on May 12, 2009 at 6:23 PM

Shame Ventura has gone off the flipping deep end.

blatantblue on May 12, 2009 at 6:23 PM

strangelet on May 12, 2009 at 6:13 PM

Jesse Venture+Ron Paul= Complete insanity.

I can’t believe you used Ventura in an example for anything…..Wow.

portlandon on May 12, 2009 at 6:24 PM

Very telling that strangelet is getting talking points from that idiot Ventura and that lich, Larry King. Next.

ManInBlack on May 12, 2009 at 6:17 PM

Oh she’s done better

Upstater85 on May 12, 2009 at 6:24 PM

!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!NUTS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Boy these two Libs are really enjoying themselves!

And,umm,shouldn’t Obama be more concerned about running
the country,instead of trying to undo anying from the
Bush Administration!

!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!DISTRACTIONS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

canopfor on May 12, 2009 at 6:24 PM

That was a good piece you linked to from the Weekly Standard.

Oh, I do hope he decides not to release these photos!

Alana on May 12, 2009 at 6:24 PM

Somebody figured out that it made no sense to stop the predator strikes for fear of bad press and then to release a bunch of “torture” pics.

rw on May 12, 2009 at 6:24 PM

I wish I had half her brain! Yes,, I am sure her Dad is proud!

JellyToast on May 12, 2009 at 6:25 PM

Liz Cheney for President.

Knucklehead on May 12, 2009 at 6:26 PM

Liz Cheney for President.

Knucklehead on May 12, 2009 at 6:26 PM

Just wait till the left comes out with the topless pics…

Upstater85 on May 12, 2009 at 6:27 PM

IT’S ‘TROLL TIME’ HERE, EVERYBODY !!!!

The off-color skank-hag “strangelet” and her dim sidekick ‘radio’ are here for all to laugh at…

Dumb & Dumber…..

Trolls can’t resist a thread like this; it’s pure smack to these junkies, and they just gotta get high…..

Maybe they’re the same Fool: a sort of Jekyll & Hyde, only clueless and stupid. That would explain the lack of wit. If not, these two should date. Image the offspring……

Janos Hunyadi on May 12, 2009 at 6:27 PM

I’m sure Liz must have eaten a baby or something in her lifetime…

Hey, maybe she was a pal of Torture Freak Nan…

Upstater85 on May 12, 2009 at 6:28 PM

but who made a bad mistake in the Fox News interview when she framed the decision to release the photos as further evidence of it having become “fashionable for us to side, really, with the terrorists.”

I thought she said 9-11 families asked about this. It’s easy enough to point out the press/left are attacking them by going ape over it.

aikidoka on May 12, 2009 at 6:28 PM

First Barrasso and then a Cheney? Do a story on Curt Gowdy and Wyoming has a hotair hat trick.

Squarestate on May 12, 2009 at 6:29 PM

I thought she said 9-11 families asked about this.

Eh. She brought it up in the interview. Obviously she thinks it’s a valid point.

Allahpundit on May 12, 2009 at 6:29 PM

although I wonder if he’s backpedaled so far on issues related to terrorism by now that he simply has to appease his base with this.
Allahpundit

I’d say it’s more of a distraction than appeasement. Ironically Obama likes to remind his base that it’s Bush’s fault whilst enacting similar policies that his base called Bush a ‘war criminal’ over.

gwelf on May 12, 2009 at 6:30 PM

Crap,that should be anything,not anying,Ugh!

canopfor on May 12, 2009 at 6:32 PM

They must have something really good on Obama….

TheBigOldDog on May 12, 2009 at 6:32 PM

Anybody else remember back before ‘waterboarding’, didn’t we called it ‘swirly’ ??

CaveatEmpty on May 12, 2009 at 6:33 PM

strangelet on May 12, 2009 at 6:13 PM

Jesse Ventura? The 9/11 conspiracy theorist? Yes, let’s seek his opinion on matters of national security. Clearly an expert in the area.

amerpundit on May 12, 2009 at 6:34 PM

strangelet on May 12, 2009 at 6:13 PM

Using Jesse Ventura to make a point; priceless…

The Cheney’s are the only political figures making any sense on the right today. We have Limbaugh and host of other talk radio folks fighting the righteous battle, but other than the Cheney’s, where in the hell are the rest of the Republicans. Hiding behind a desk with the door locked I would have to assume. Wussies!

Keemo on May 12, 2009 at 6:35 PM

Oh my: Obama to reverse decision on releasing new Abu Ghraib photos?

Too late. He already showed how he loves to do things to hurt the US. Just the fact that he ever thought of releasing these photos demonstrated where his real sympathies lie. He is a traitor and cannot step back from that – although this was never a secret, anyway.

progressoverpeace on May 12, 2009 at 6:35 PM

Let’s begin a test with libtards where they each get 183 “wet-willies” in the ear & see if they call that torture too – Idiots.

Ris4victory on May 12, 2009 at 6:35 PM

This getting tiresome. The left is basically saying if Bush et al did it, it was torture QED.

aikidoka on May 12, 2009 at 6:39 PM

Ummm..is Liz Cheney still ghey?

Wow….Ventura was a Navy Seal.
Way to thank him for his service.

strangelet on May 12, 2009 at 6:40 PM

anyone think the plan to restore Bushes popularity, is to send the Cheney’s out to do the dirty work on this, make all the points, while Bush lays low? good cop, bad cop routine?

jp on May 12, 2009 at 6:14 PM

I think Dick Cheney is operating out of a sense of honor and principle. That Bush will rightly be highly regarded when the American people get the facts straight is as it should be and I believe GWB and Cheney are content to let history sort out that assessment.

KittyLowrey on May 12, 2009 at 6:40 PM

Oh, and I have the highest respect and regard for Liz Cheney. This goes way back to at least 2004 and her recent statements affirm that opinion.

KittyLowrey on May 12, 2009 at 6:41 PM

Interesting test of the lefty base. So far, the “Barack opposes gay marriage” meme has been spreading without contradiction or revision. Of course, this helps Obama overall, but not with the “tomorrow belongs to me” crowd. Now it appears more and more likely that there will be zero follow-through on “torture.”

He treats them like dirt, and they come back for more, and his “leadership” leaves them worse off, and conservatives stronger, than before he piped up.

I think they’ll stick with him to the end – even if he escalates in Iraq, forgets about global warming, doesn’t appoint a lunatic to the Supreme Court, and even as he sells their future for a short-term blip in economic growth – for one reason: because they know we don’t like him. “Hate we can believe in.”

CK MacLeod on May 12, 2009 at 6:42 PM

Now wouldn’t that be ironic if the gay daughter of the “most hated Republican” ended up being on a national ticket?
Here she is well spoken, has her dad’s tenacity, intelligent, and a conservative with a “liberal” life.
Or, the next Fox news host??

right2bright on May 12, 2009 at 6:43 PM

Ummm..is Liz Cheney still ghey?

Wow….Ventura was a Navy Seal.
Way to thank him for his service.

strangelet on May 12, 2009 at 6:40 PM

That would be Mary Cheney, dumb a$$

Colorado Anne on May 12, 2009 at 6:43 PM

Now wouldn’t that be ironic if the gay daughter of the “most hated Republican” ended up being on a national ticket?

Liz Cheney’s not gay. You’re thinking of her sister Mary.

Allahpundit on May 12, 2009 at 6:45 PM

We need Lynn Cheney in Washington. She is as cool and smart as her father.

jencab on May 12, 2009 at 6:47 PM

Release of the CIA memo’s blew up in Barry’s face. The results of that release were not what he’d planned. The last thing he needs to do right now is to get the military pissed at him. After all, who flies Air Force One and Marine One. Hint: It ain’t Barry’s civilian friends.

GarandFan on May 12, 2009 at 6:47 PM

Oh, and I have the highest respect and regard for Liz Cheney.

KittyLowrey on May 12, 2009 at 6:41 PM

I love the whole Cheney family. They are just awesome. America is very lucky to have them around, these days. I cnsider Dick Cheney to be a modern day Cincinnatus (deputy version).

progressoverpeace on May 12, 2009 at 6:47 PM

Ummm..is Liz Cheney still ghey?

“Still” assumes Liz ever was gay. Mary Cheney was and is gay.

Wow….Ventura was a Navy Seal.
Way to thank him for his service.

strangelet on May 12, 2009 at 6:40 PM

Military service doesn’t grant someone indefinite immunity. Timothy McVeigh served in the Army. Lee Harvey Oswald was a Marine.

Ventura now theorizes that the U.S. government is responsible for killing 3,000 of its own citizens — an act that would’ve required the complicity of current members of the Armed Forces and intelligence community. He lost immunity.

amerpundit on May 12, 2009 at 6:48 PM

Liz Cheney’s not gay. You’re thinking of her sister Mary.

Allahpundit on May 12, 2009 at 6:45 PM

Phew — cause I was just thinking how I’d totally tap that

blatantblue on May 12, 2009 at 6:48 PM

Don’t think Cheney’s forgotten about those CIA memos that supposedly prove the value of enhanced interrogation, either: He promised Fox News this afternoon that he’s not going to “roll over” for Obama,

Thank God for Dick Cheney. Don’t roll over for anybody, Mr. VP. Keep speaking the truth, no matter how few people want to hear it.

AZCoyote on May 12, 2009 at 6:48 PM

strangelet:

Yes, Ventura was a Navy Seal. So what? That does not make him right about this. Suffice to say he was not the one making the decisions and neither were you, you sanctimonious little twit. As far as that is concerned, I am sure there are plenty of Navy Seals who would do a lot more than waterboard these idiots.

Back when it mattered no one on the left gave a damn, their sense of outrage came along exactly when it was politically useful.

hypocrite.

And yes, I suppose Ms. Cheney is gay. Are you homophobic. Do you have a problem with that?

Terrye on May 12, 2009 at 6:48 PM

Oh so this is not the gay daughter. Who cares? She is very smart whatever her sexual inclinations might be.

Terrye on May 12, 2009 at 6:49 PM

Jesse Ventura: I would prosecute every person who was involved in that torture. I would prosecute the people that did it, I would prosecute the people that ordered it, because torture is against the law.”
Larry King: You were a Navy S.E.A.L.
Jesse Ventura: Yes, and I was waterboarded [in training] so I know… It is torture…I’ll put it to you this way: You give me a waterboard, Dick Cheney and one hour, and I’ll have him confess to the Sharon Tate murders.
strangelet on May 12, 2009 at 6:13 PM

Jesse said wrestling was real too. :|

Patrick S on May 12, 2009 at 6:49 PM

I honestly can’t remember…is Liz the lesbian? If so, she should be protected…oh…wait…nevermind…John Kerry already went there.

SouthernGent on May 12, 2009 at 6:50 PM

Crap! I didn’t see the answer…ooops!

SouthernGent on May 12, 2009 at 6:50 PM

strangelet:

Others have mentioned this, but it bears repeated:

A. Jesse Ventura knows apallingly little about anything not Jesse Ventura, and even there his knowledge has gaps. Simply put, his truther stance, his absolute disregard for history, and his egotistic and rather ludicrous posturing mean that if he is the best authority you can find, it is time to start thinking about capitulation.

B. YES waterboarding is torture. Why do you think we try to train our SpecOps against it? SO THAT THEY HAVE SOME DEGREE OF RESISTANCE TO IT IF THEY ARE CAPTURED!

If anything, it is a fine testament to its efficiency when WE fear it enough to try and train our men to resist it.

Turtler on May 12, 2009 at 6:52 PM

I really don’t think anyone in the US ever is “siding with the terrorists” if they disagree over what to do about some pictures. I personally don’t think we should release them. But I’m not ready to call a fellow citizen who thinks we should as “on the other side.” I know the possible implications of riling up those who would harm us, but I also think those people are crazed and couldn’t be any more riled up. They are 100% bats–t crazy already, these pictures won’t make a whole hell of a lot of difference.

Greef on May 12, 2009 at 6:52 PM

Oh yes, and what does Liz Cheney’s choice of bed partners have to do with the merits of torture?

Turtler on May 12, 2009 at 6:53 PM

Please, don’t get me started on that moronic blowhard Jesse Ventura. I live in Minneapolis, Minnesota and had to deal with this pompous, arrogant, self-important, “I am the coolest” egotist, his slut/stripper/tramp looking wife, and his teenage juvenile delinquent for four years as my governor…

Fuzzlenutter on May 12, 2009 at 6:53 PM

strangelet on May 12, 2009 at 6:13 PM

Apparently being waterboarded was so horrible that Ventura was able to continue his stint in the US Navy SEALS, become a professional wrestler, become Governor of Minnesota and through it all still find time to get under the limelight.

Rough stuff that waterboarding … if only I was so lucky.

darwin on May 12, 2009 at 6:53 PM

So, will Obama release the photos? It will depend on the politics of the move. If it gets people killed and he gets blamed for it, he might reconsider. Of course if Bush gets blamed for it, he could care less.

The sanctimony of these people is so outrageous.

It is like the 90s when we had to hear from Clinton and the press about how horrid and bad and dangerous Saddam was, and then less than a decade later it is as if none of that ever happened.

Now, years after the facts we have the same revisionism about interrogation. Back then when they were concerned about American cities going up in flames, they could have cared less.

Terrye on May 12, 2009 at 6:54 PM

Allahpundit on May 12, 2009 at 6:45 PM

You are correct, Mary was only director of vice presidential operations for the Bush-Cheney 2004 presidential reelection campaign and she was the lesbian/gay corporate relations manager for the Coors Brewing Company.
He has at least two great daughters who can hold their own.

right2bright on May 12, 2009 at 6:54 PM

Liz Cheney’s not gay. You’re thinking of her sister Mary.

Allahpundit on May 12, 2009 at 6:45 PM

Phew — cause I was just thinking how I’d totally tap that

blatantblue on May 12, 2009 at 6:48 PM

Just picked my head up off the key board; damn that’s funny.

Accurate also I might add.

Keemo on May 12, 2009 at 6:56 PM

Turtler:

I honestly do not consider water boarding torture. I have seen it done and while it is very unpleasant, people get up and walk away unscathed.

Meanwhile Obama is sending people off to Arabs for interrogation. If strangelet wants a truth commission so damn bad, let’s take a look at rendition and see what the Egyptians do to get people to talk.

But that won’t happen. It might make Obama look bad. Can’t have that.

Terrye on May 12, 2009 at 6:57 PM

Ummm..is Liz Cheney still ghey?

strangelet on May 12, 2009 at 6:40 PM

As others pointed out, you’re thinking of her sister Mary, another fine Cheney. Liz is married to a man and they have a passel of cute kids.

KittyLowrey on May 12, 2009 at 6:58 PM

Is Liz the Lesbian.

SouthernGent on May 12,2009 at 6:50PM.

SouthernGent: His daughter!

And,do you know what happened to Blitzer,
when he tried to press Cheney for an
answer!:)

canopfor on May 12, 2009 at 6:58 PM

How about showing the famous 911 movie and reminding us of the terror that was

Jamson64 on May 12, 2009 at 6:59 PM

Ummm..is Liz Cheney still ghey?

strangelet on May 12, 2009 at 6:40 PM

That matters how?

Jamson64 on May 12, 2009 at 6:59 PM

Liz Cheney’s not gay. You’re thinking of her sister Mary.

Allahpundit on May 12, 2009 at 6:45 PM

Whew! I thought you had to be straight to be a FOXnewscaster.
I was worried that Glenn Beck might try to “cure” her like the Brits “cured” Alan Turing.
;)

strangelet on May 12, 2009 at 7:00 PM

“but who made a bad mistake in the Fox News interview when she framed the decision to release the photos as further evidence of it having become “fashionable for us to side, really, with the terrorists.””

No , it was sharp but dead on , she’s worried. The release of the memos was the first help to the enemy. So Liz is right.

the_nile on May 12, 2009 at 7:00 PM

Liz rocks. She obviously is well studied, smart and knows how to debate teh lefties.

Liz needs more air time.

Liz needs to be Palin’s spokesperson and campaign manager.

darwin on May 12, 2009 at 7:00 PM

Wow….Ventura was a Navy Seal.
Way to thank him for his service.

strangelet on May 12, 2009 at 6:40 PM

Yes because someone has served they get a free pass to say anything unchallenged . We know that because that is how you lefty fuktards treat all servicemen. Thanks for setting a fine example.

/sarc dimwit

Jamson64 on May 12, 2009 at 7:01 PM

http://www.salon.com/opinion/greenwald/2009/05/12/obama/

Don’t all you people who told us it was a moral imperative to support Obama over this issue feel kinda silly now? You should. (instapundit.com)

Keemo on May 12, 2009 at 7:01 PM

strangelet on May 12, 2009 at 6:13 PM

You’re really scraping the bottom of the barrel when you quote Jesse Ventura as a source. Ventura, failed governor, actor, and wrestler — real authority there.

Richard Romano on May 12, 2009 at 7:01 PM

Liz Cheney is probably the most articulate commenter on subjects like this. She’s really really good.

thebadoutlaw on May 12, 2009 at 7:02 PM

Keemo on May 12, 2009 at 7:01 PM

They should, but they have no shame. They are despicable, lying scum … just like their idol, The Precedent.

progressoverpeace on May 12, 2009 at 7:02 PM

Richard Romano on May 12, 2009 at 7:01 PM

Ventura’s seriously got a screw loose. He was waterboarded by his own government . I wonder if he will bring charges against those who tortured him.

Jamson64 on May 12, 2009 at 7:03 PM

progressoverpeace on May 12, 2009 at 7:02 PM

Couldn’t agree more!

Keemo on May 12, 2009 at 7:04 PM

I don’t know what anyone else thinks but I don’t think W would speak out regardless of what VP Cheney is doing. It’s not his style.

Cindy Munford on May 12, 2009 at 6:23 PM

He frustrated the heck out of us, not shooting back while in office–Consistency is a virtue.

maverick muse on May 12, 2009 at 7:04 PM

Are there any ghey FOXcasters?
I realize FOX has filled the minority insane clown quota with Glenn Beck.

strangelet on May 12, 2009 at 7:05 PM

Wow….Ventura was a Navy Seal.

Way to thank him for his service.

strangelet on May 12, 2009 at 6:40 PM

Wow, getalife’s potted palm tree showed up.

Technically speaking he was a Seal, but never had to use his training, as he was never in combat. Your fellow Leftist Garrison Keillor mocked his service, calling him “A Navy W.A.L.R.U.S. (Water Air Land Rising Up Suddenly)”

He also claims that 9/11 was an inside job.

Thanks again for the laughs, kid.

Del Dolemonte on May 12, 2009 at 7:05 PM

LIZ CHENEY ROCKS!

reliapundit on May 12, 2009 at 7:07 PM

Liz rocks. She obviously is well studied, smart and knows how to debate teh lefties.

Liz needs more air time.

Liz needs to be Palin’s spokesperson and campaign manager.

darwin on May 12, 2009 at 7:00 PM

good points

Liz is top notch material. Patience from her dad? Kept debate on point of fact.

A couple weeks ago, someone @ HotAir comment posted a link to a student video following a Condi Rice address at Berkeley, and at the reception being questioned, and in answering the pest, the hall became quiet and she made her points again, and proved the pest wrong on every point.

maverick muse on May 12, 2009 at 7:08 PM

I realize FOX has filled the minority insane clown quota with Glenn Beck.

strangelet on May 12, 2009 at 7:05 PM

Interesting…. Beck maybe insane but he is much more intelligent and logical then you. You know it too.
He makes more money in an hour than you make in weak. Now don’t you feel stupid….hmmm probably not as so much is relative…. in other words you know no difference.

Jamson64 on May 12, 2009 at 7:08 PM

Are there any ghey FOXcasters?

I realize FOX has filled the minority insane clown quota with Glenn Beck.

strangelet on May 12, 2009 at 7:05 PM

Tell us again why you consider CNN a reliable “news” source.

And why you’re talking about ghey newscasters in a thread about Abu Ghraib.

Del Dolemonte on May 12, 2009 at 7:08 PM

http://blogs.tnr.com/tnr/blogs/the_plank/archive/2009/05/12/obama-breaks-with-gates-cancels-nuke-program.aspx

Another little gen from Glenn Reynolds.

A VILLAGE CAN’T RAISE A CHILD WITH NUCLEAR ARMS, OR SOMETHING: Obama Breaks With Gates, Cancels Nuke Program. “Obama’s new budget plan includes a little-noted sea change in U.S. nuclear policy, and a step towards his vision of a denuclearized world. It provides no funding for the Reliable Replacement Warhead program, created to design a new generation of long-lasting nuclear weapons that don’t need to be tested. (The military is worried that a nuclear test moratorium in effect since 1992 might endanger the reliability of an aging US arsenal.) But this spring Obama issued a bold call for a world free of nuclear weapons, and part of that vision entails leading by example. . . . Obama’s budget kills the National Nuclear Security Administration program once and for all.”

So, a question for strangelet: If Obama were trying to wreck America as a superpower, what would he be doing differently?

Keemo on May 12, 2009 at 7:09 PM

strangelet, just keep on watching Jon Stewart for your “News”.

dpierson on May 12, 2009 at 7:09 PM

Liz is more , as they say..

the_nile on May 12, 2009 at 7:09 PM

strangelet on May 12, 2009 at 7:05 PM

Huh?

progressoverpeace on May 12, 2009 at 7:10 PM

Are there any ghey FOXcasters?
I realize FOX has filled the minority insane clown quota with Glenn Beck.

strangelet on May 12, 2009 at 7:05 PM

Slightly on the thick side today? You’ve seen what the gay mafia does to ordinary people who dare cross them … do you have any idea what they do to one of their own?

There are many gay conservatives, but unfortunately they feel the need to hide their homosexuality not from their party or the general public, but from the rabid militant gays.

Ever seen what’s done to black conservatives?

Call 1-800-GET-CLUE

darwin on May 12, 2009 at 7:10 PM

When the men won’t lead, the women step up to the plate doing what needs to be done and saying what needs to be said. Carrie, Sarah, Liz…. and yet the power boys won’t let them play where it counts.

Can we overthrown the listening tour and have the women do the teaching tour?

PrincipledPilgrim on May 12, 2009 at 7:10 PM

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