Oh my: Obama to reverse decision on releasing new Abu Ghraib photos?

posted at 6:04 pm on May 12, 2009 by Allahpundit

Nothing’s solid yet but both Tapper and Bill Kristol noticed some extra nuance in Gibbs’s comments today:

MR. GIBBS: Well, obviously the president has great concern about any impact that pictures of potential detainee abuse, in the past, could have on the present-day service members that are protecting our freedom either in Iraq, Afghanistan or throughout the world. That’s something the president is very cognizant of. And we are working to — we are working currently to figure out what the process is, moving forward.

Q Does that mean the decision could be reversed?

MR. GIBBS: I don’t want to get into that right now.

Kristol thinks that, at a minimum, The One will appeal the Second Circuit’s order that the photos be published: “The release of photos is less justifiable than that of memos in terms of the public’s right to know, soldiers are more popular than lawyers, and this wouldn’t be a (however distasteful) assault on the actions of a previous administration–this would be a gratuitous assault on the well-being and the reputation of our fighting men and women.” A fair point — Obama can afford to be seen as anti-CIA but not “anti-military” — although I wonder if he’s backpedaled so far on issues related to terrorism by now that he simply has to appease his base with this. He’s doubling down in Afghanistan; thanks to Pelosi, the torture debate is blowing up in his face (even by the admission of some lefties); he’s going forward with military tribunals; and on and on. Don’t think Cheney’s forgotten about those CIA memos that supposedly prove the value of enhanced interrogation, either: He promised Fox News this afternoon that he’s not going to “roll over” for Obama, even as liberals on WaPo’s op-ed page are starting to wonder if he’s right about torture after all. The One’s got to give the left something; why not give them this? He can blame the whole thing on the court order and call a presser to emphasize that the pics aren’t representative of the actions of the military as a whole, most members of which behave with impeccable discipline, etc. I’ll be surprised if he reverses himself.

As a gloss on this subject, two videos from this morning of another Cheney who’s quite persuasive but who made a bad mistake in the Fox News interview when she framed the decision to release the photos as further evidence of it having become “fashionable for us to side, really, with the terrorists.” The media’s already seized on it and the left will go duly berserk, adding pressure on Obama to proceed with the release and not cave to the right. It’s a shame because the rest of the interview’s quite good, as is her exchange with Eugene Robinson in the MSNBC clip. At least watch the part at 10:50 when she freezes him by asking if he really wouldn’t waterboard KSM if he thought it could save lives.

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The pressure is mounting:

(via Drudge)

House No. 2: Explore Pelosi interrogation briefing

By LARRY MARGASAK – 4 hours ago

WASHINGTON (AP) — The House majority leader reluctantly agreed Tuesday that congressional hearings should investigate Speaker Nancy Pelosi’s assertion that she wasn’t informed, more than six years ago, that harsh interrogation methods were used on an al-Qaida leader.

I think this is a big step forward in not allowing the democrats to turn this into a Bush bashing circus while giving themselves a pass.

Look at this lame statement:

(Hoyer)

“I think the Republicans are simply trying to distract the American public with who knew what when. My response to that is, look, the issue is not what was said or what was known; the question and focus ought to be on what was done.”

So let me get this straight.
The fact that democrats could have stopped but supported,agreed,and are now lying about their participation in the policies of enhanced interrogation is somehow a “distraction”.

What’s important is whether Republicans supported,agreed,and helped participate in policies of enhanced interrogation.

Democrats support of enhanced interrogation = DISTRACTION

Republicans support of enhanced interrogation = WAR CRIME

liberal pretzel logic at it’s worst.

Baxter Greene on May 12, 2009 at 10:46 PM

Isn’t it interesting how smart and confident Eugene is when speaking with his fellow POS Olberman but not so much when confronted with somebody like Liz Cheney?

Hey, Eugene, look behind you. I believe your balls on the floor.

mr1216 on May 12, 2009 at 11:03 PM

Baxter Greene on May 12, 2009 at 10:46 PM

Let’s face it, if a Rethuglican had fooled around with a workplace subordinate in the White House, Democrats would demand that he be taken out back and shot.

Del Dolemonte on May 12, 2009 at 11:05 PM

The lady has the right stuff.

The panel was knocked on their ass, and yet they were all mesmerized by it as well.

Saltysam on May 12, 2009 at 11:17 PM

Hey, Eugene, look behind you. I believe your balls on the floor.

mr1216 on May 12, 2009 at 11:03 PM

First, they were in his throat. Then he coughed them up. As he left the studio, Mr1216 had to point behind Eugene so he wouldn’t leave them behind.

Saltysam on May 12, 2009 at 11:22 PM

Let’s face it, if a Rethuglican had fooled around with a workplace subordinate in the White House, Democrats would demand that he be taken out back and shot.

Del Dolemonte on May 12, 2009 at 11:05 PM

And the womens rights groups would have been out in the streets demanding his Republican head.

Instead,Bill Clinton was a “victim” of his own charisma and position of power,he was helpless to resist.

Then they declare Hillary a strong,smart woman for staying with a man that humiliates and cheats on her over…and…over…and…over…and…over.

But don’t you dare say verbiage that is on Hip Hop stations across the country and praised in hollywood like “nappy headed hoes”,that’s going to far.

Baxter Greene on May 13, 2009 at 12:36 AM

Obama to reverse decision on releasing new Abu Ghraib photos?

Let’s try this instead:

Obama to delay releasing Abu Ghraib photos until after speech to Muslim nations

At first I thought Barack and/or his staff might have believed his love within the Muslim nations was so great that he could release the photos right after Memorial Day, then almost immediately hop a plane for the Middle East before delivering his speech in Egypt on June 4.

Now, I think someone at 1600 Pennsylvania Ave. might have finally realized that releasing those photos on May 27-28 and then going to Egypt just a week later might actually take a wee bit of the focus off whatever stuff Obama’s actually going to say, and force him to either defend U.S. troops or throw both them (and of course, the Bush Administration) under the bus in order to placate the Arab street (which may not be hot on science and technology development, but they do know how to stage riots over alleged cultural slurs for TV cameras).

So “delay” is probably more accurate than “reverse”, and the appeals court challenge gives them a way out. The only question is if they’ll make their strategerie so nakedly obvious by then dropping the appeal sometime in mid-June, after Obama’s safely home from his foreign tour.

jon1979 on May 13, 2009 at 1:50 AM

I love Liz Cheney. She should be at the top of the list of leaders to rebuild the Republican party. She is always coherent and calm under duress and, most importantly, she wins the debate of ideas. She is part of the answer we need.

litebrite on May 13, 2009 at 1:51 AM

If the photos are released be sure to note the complete lack of context- that the military was investigating said cases.

Also look for a spike in the number of casualties in US troops as the jihadis milk the photos for every ounce of propaganda worth they can.

There’s no way that these photos should see the light of day- not when lives are at stake.

Jay Mac on May 13, 2009 at 3:47 AM

When are the media going to start introducing this moron robinson as the guy who wrote that cannibalism was taking place in new orleans?

peacenprosperity on May 13, 2009 at 6:52 AM

eugene is equivocating, and it makes him come across as a tool. just like the administration, he wants it both ways.

blish on May 13, 2009 at 9:04 AM

obviously the president has great concern about

Sorry…not obvious.

bluelightbrigade on May 13, 2009 at 10:19 AM

Is anyone else disgusted that the media feels it’s ok to call our most recent VP a “crazy old coot” IN FRONT OF HIS DAUGHTER?

I guess shame is only meant to exist for California beauty queens.

hawksruleva on May 13, 2009 at 10:48 AM

I love Liz Cheney. She should be at the top of the list of leaders to rebuild the Republican party. She is always coherent and calm under duress and, most importantly, she wins the debate of ideas. She is part of the answer we need.

litebrite on May 13, 2009 at 1:51 AM

Agreed. I wonder if she’d consider running for Senate?

hawksruleva on May 13, 2009 at 10:49 AM

Is anyone else disgusted that the media feels it’s ok to call our most recent VP a “crazy old coot” IN FRONT OF HIS DAUGHTER?

I guess shame is only meant to exist for California beauty queens.

hawksruleva on May 13, 2009 at 10:48 AM

We’re sadly used to liberals and their behavior , but i like here counter story about how she crashed her dad’s car when she was 16 and he was cool as Cheney.

the_nile on May 13, 2009 at 10:55 AM

Obama in now OFICIALLY a dangerous idealogue.

marklmail on May 13, 2009 at 11:09 AM

She is Good!

@ntif@n on May 13, 2009 at 11:30 AM

That’s what we need. She is very good.

LtE126 on May 13, 2009 at 11:35 AM

I love Liz Cheney. She should be at the top of the list of leaders to rebuild the Republican party. She is always coherent and calm under duress and, most importantly, she wins the debate of ideas. She is part of the answer we need.

litebrite on May 13, 2009 at 1:51 AM

I agree. Her “performance” on Morning Joe was as solid and factual as anything I have seen from anyone not named “Cheney” in years.

She eviscerated Robinson.

Her best statement is at 3:20 when she talks about the White House editing Blair’s remarks for public consumption. The point flies right over Robinson’s head.

SlimyBill on May 13, 2009 at 11:44 AM

I love Liz Cheney. She should be at the top of the list of leaders to rebuild the Republican party. She is always coherent and calm under duress and, most importantly, she wins the debate of ideas. She is part of the answer we need.

litebrite on May 13, 2009 at 1:51 AM

Isn’t she the sexual deviant who supports same-sex marriage? If so, what self-respecting member of the base would be willing to follow her?

platypus on May 13, 2009 at 1:05 PM

“fashionable for us to side, really, with the terrorists.

Let’s take a poll. I’ll bet most folks would agree with this sentiment. Let the media sieze on that.

littleguy on May 13, 2009 at 1:11 PM

Isn’t she the sexual deviant who supports same-sex marriage? If so, what self-respecting member of the base would be willing to follow her? – platypus on May 13, 2009 at 1:05 PM

I guess that you have similar feelings about Dick Cheney?

SC.Charlie on May 13, 2009 at 4:09 PM

This is the first time I’ve seen Eugene Robinson on TV, and he was every bit as brilliant as I thought.

(Not a compliment.)

Liz Cheney, on the other hand, is very good at this sort of thing. She keeps on topic, refuses to be talked over, and makes her point no matter what. Very impressive.

tom on May 13, 2009 at 4:12 PM

Eugene Robinson. Spare us another affirmative-action-anointed “great mind.”

ILB on May 13, 2009 at 8:13 PM

Liz Cheney is not gay. It is her sister Mary. Please attempt to get your facts straight before trolling. Such laziness adds insult to stupidity.

ILB on May 13, 2009 at 8:27 PM

Liz Cheney is not gay. It is her sister Mary. Please attempt to get your facts straight before trolling. Such laziness adds insult to stupidity. – ILB on May 13, 2009 at 8:27 PM

I don’t think that platypus cares who in the Cheney family is gay or not. He just knows that one of the daughters is gay and receives the love and support of her parents and sister.

SC.Charlie on May 13, 2009 at 8:48 PM

Liz Rocks!!!!

DL13 on May 14, 2009 at 12:34 AM

I don’t think that platypus cares who in the Cheney family is gay or not. He just knows that one of the daughters is gay and receives the love and support of her parents and sister.

SC.Charlie on May 13, 2009 at 8:48 PM

Actually, I don’t care who is “gay” or who isn’t. It’s the public approval her famous family provides that I take issue with.

Dick and Lynn Cheney did not have to show publicly just how shallow their family morality is by celebrating one of their children deliberately creating a child to be fatherless.

Everything about a person is affected by whatever morals the person has. Dick and Lynn tarnished themselves by refusing to stay silent in the face of Mary’s amazingly disrespectful behavior. Being a sexual deviant whose family loved her wasn’t enough for her. She had to go farther.

She should have been publicly rebuked by her parents. They failed the character test, and indirectly stained Liz by showing that acting out is what gets mommy’s and daddy’s attention in the Cheney family.

Pathetic. Sad. And the most helpless one had no say.

platypus on May 14, 2009 at 2:06 AM

I love Liz Cheney. She should be at the top of the list of leaders to rebuild the Republican party. She is always coherent and calm under duress and, most importantly, she wins the debate of ideas. She is part of the answer we need.

litebrite on May 13, 2009 at 1:51 AM

Those who like to attack Cheney, especially on personal character, need only look at this lady in action to determine what kind of father Cheney was. She is poised, extremely bright, forthright, disciplined, focused, and completely in command.

That doesn’t happen by accident. She’s an outstanding commentator and analyst, quite attractive, and not at all unpleasant. She could fill a whole bunch of different roles in our political dialogue.

Jaibones on May 14, 2009 at 12:55 PM

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