I know this is probably too late, but I must point out a quote you made.

Someone send him some info about lend Lease and how much aid Soviet Russia got from the US.

Russia probably would have went under if not for the US.

You are talking about the wrong World War. What The Dean and I were talking about was WWI, which was a vastly different conflict.

In short, Russia DID go under, and the Germans came within an inch of knocking the Western Allies out save for staunch resistance and reinforcements from the US and the British reserves.

Yes, I must agree that we were instrumental in providing the Allies with supplies both in WWI and in WWII, but unlike WWII- which was not truly at a deadlock-, WWI by the time we had entered was a stalemate and probably would have seen a German defeat without us, though it is possible that it could have gone the other way.

While I agree with the rest of your posts, this one demands rectification and clarification.

I am sorry for the delay in realizing and posting this.

Steele must go, or the RNC will remain the failed “RINO Nominating Committee” through many more election cycles.

BRAVO!

Regarding Steele – I was for him before I was against him but I agree he needs to go. He continues to make junior high mistakes and sometimes I think he is a closet Democrat like Powell.

Bluehanky on May 11, 2009 at 8:35 PM

I agree 100%! Steele originally sucked me into supporting him with some of his great-sounding speeches around the time he assumed the office.

But actions speak louder than words, and I see no sign of his competence or ability to unify the Republican party and move it forward. In fact, there is no easily-recognizable unifying theme or set of principles being promoted by Steele: nor is he promoting an effort to create these things or to adopt the constructive work of others in the party.

His continuing occupancy of the office assures that the RNC will remain a static, divisive, and increasingly irrelevant organization. I discontinued my support of RNC as a result of the takeover by RINO’s during the McCain debacle: Steele has given me ZERO reasons to reconsider my position and resume support.

Steele must go, or the RNC will remain the failed “RINO Nominating Committee” through many more election cycles.

For those of you defending Michael Steele…Exactly! That is why the rest of us conservatives remain without a party and on the sidelines. Have fun though… We know you can do it without us! We really do! You need to moderate a bit more, however…

sabbott on May 12, 2009 at 7:53 AM

I don’t know that I truly defend him. But, you do need to realize that kicking him out will give the libs the opportunity to say that conservatives are racist for kicking out the black guy after only a few months.

That of course is insane with all of his gaffes, and maybe we should just say oh well and do it anyways. I’m just saying it is something that we should think about.

I would feel better with him working in the background. He will not run for President or Senate, or any other position. The spokesperson should be someone who can get name recognition for the 2012 election. Not someone who just goes on TV and says something goofy to the people who watch news all day.

The old GOP attitude of “who’s next in line” needs to go away.The next in line must be the best in line.

Ronald Reagan’s quick speech…..

…I still like the man…this intrigue is making me sick, act like adults who actually want to win damnit. Daemonocracy on May 12, 2009 at 12:58 AM

Toughen up Daemona! Most adults, recognize that problems tend to escalate for those individuals who are not capable of correcting their self-destructive behaviors. Failure to distance oneself from such people promply, exposes one to spillover risks.

Mr. Steele seems incapable of fixing his self-destructive tendencies. Because of this he’s a threat, not only to himself, but to the Republican party who now depend on him to act in an intelligent and competant manner. Wise course: terminate Steele’s contract, and recruit a bonafide grass roots (Tea Party Type) cheerleader for a more articulate and conservative party — sign here: the GOP Needs You–>

“Let’s Roll”

I really hope you two come around and at least vote for him over Obama once he wins the nomination. There are these little things called debates that all the candidates have to go through, even pure identity picks. Some of them are going to eat the lunch of others in that format.

kangjie on May 11, 2009 at 11:22 PM

I would have agreed with you up until this last gaffe…now, I see it’s going to be a continuous thing with him. Get him out now and start over again. He’s doing more damage than good…and even more important, he doesn’t seem to realize it.

The whole point of this is that fact that Steele can’t hold his own in a debate…unless ‘holding your own’ means agreeing with your opponent.

AUINSC on May 11, 2009 at 11:15 PM

We are just five months into the new year and Obama is doing a fair job of driving his popularity down all on his own. Steele can debate better than the last RNC chair which is not saying much. He just needs to aim his fire leftward and keep it there. He will learn(I hope).

budfox on May 11, 2009 at 11:03 PM

The whole point of this is that fact that Steele can’t hold his own in a debate…unless ‘holding your own’ means agreeing with your opponent.

You play a game with the HA hardliners as to where you stand on people like Palin and Meg McCain. You’re ga-ga for atheism and a proud beta male. If you were any more wishy-washy as to what exactly you wanted, you’d be SpongeAllah SquarePundit.

Anyone who wants to chuck Steele is short-sighted and woefully ignorant regarding the repercussions. Do you really think he’s simply going to slink away, or if he is this grand self-promoter, are you not giving him the biggest platform possible?

Tossing Steele makes him more of a media magnet because it will codify every GOP stereotype at play; Southern Repubs were undermining a black man the day he won and didn’t stop until he was ousted. Steele will not go out and carry water for the GOP in the mid-terms. If anything, he’ll be booked far and wide to do the opposite. And it’s not like Steele will have to run the GOP down to make his point. His very career will take care of that.

Howard Dean was horrible following McCauliffe and pulled it off in a big way. To not give Steele a real chance, to not let him be himself while demanding certain goals be met, to infer his demeanor is embarrassing, is bigotry.

The answer is simple – results must be met. Organizational, financial. Key people must lay out expectations. If he doesn’t meet them, then he’s gone. As of now, the entire party is rudderless so it makes little sense to dump one guy who can actually hold his own in a debate.

Turtler on May 11, 2009 at 8:31 PM

I enjoyed reading your well thought out posts throughout this thread.

petunia on May 11, 2009 at 10:25 PM

You sound like Barry Goldwater!