Hugo Chavez, Caesar of South America

posted at 12:12 pm on May 11, 2009 by Ed Morrissey

Hugo Chavez sent his army to carry out another round of confiscations from private industry this weekend, and in the process made a fairly revealing comment.  The dictator-in-all-but-name of Venezuela used a Biblical reference, and either called himself God or Caesar.  You pick:

A fresh round of expropriations in Venezuela has raised fears that the Opec producer’s already declining oil output could sink to its lowest level in the past 20 years.

Troops were mobilised over the weekend to assist Venezuela’s state-owned oil company, PDVSA, in seizing the assets of some 60 oil service companies, after a law was approved last week that paves the way for the state to take increasing control over its all-important oil industry.

“To God what is God’s, and to Caesar what is Caesar’s,” said Venezuela’s President Hugo Chávez, as he presided over the expropriation of at least a dozen rigs, more than 30 oil terminals and some 300 boats.

Since God doesn’t usually send troops out to seize oil companies, we’ll assume Chavez considers himself Caesar in this analogy.  Caesar did follow a Roman tradition of sorts of seizing assets from political enemies in order to aggrandize himself.  Chavez claims to have seized private companies for the “people,” but thus far, it’s been the people paying the price for disruptions in energy production.

In this case, though, Chavez seized the companies to keep from paying them what PDVSA owes.  In February, these companies announced that they would suspend work until the state-owned oil company began responding to their invoices.  With oil prices falling around the world and with his nationalized oil production falling farther and farther behind, Chavez didn’t have the money to pay.  Instead, he seized the companies in order to get the work started again, although some of the outfits had abandoned Venezuela already, seeing the writing on the wall.

This, as Financial Times notes, creates an even bigger problem for Chavez.  He may have wiped the bills off the books and made PDVSA look better for a brief moment, but this compounds his production problems.  With this nationalization, Chavez has eliminated even more of the expertise he needs to improve or even maintain production at state-seized facilities.  He’s not likely to get much more assistance from commercial outfits after seeing the seizures that Chavez implemented rather than paying his bills.  PDVSA’s decline will likely accelerate as political hacks take the places of experienced oil-production experts, and as untrained workers take the places of skilled labor in a highly technical industry.

Eventually, Caesar made so many enemies that they found a way to dispatch him.  Right now, Chavez still maintains his popularity through Fidel Castro-like speeches about returning wealth to the people, but when the illusion of wealth gets destroyed in the collapse, Chavez may find himself much more like Caesar than he wants …. or perhaps Mussolini … or Ceaucescu …

Update: I changed the caption on this post.  It was in bad taste, and I apologize.

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He might think he’s Caesar but I hope he ends up like another Italian leader – Mussolini

Defector01 on May 11, 2009 at 12:14 PM

Dementia has set in. He’s thinking he’s Cezar Chavez.

Christian Conservative on May 11, 2009 at 12:18 PM

Gonna have to wait another year for the Ides of March. In the meantime, someone wanna check to see if that bird on his shoulder is called Brutus? (Extra bonus points for anyone who can get someone in the Chavez family to dream of a lion in the streets….)

apostic on May 11, 2009 at 12:18 PM

When the messiah is perceived as being an eunuch, the bad guys have nothing to worry about. Dictators will flourish and Americans will see their Constitution constantly attacked by the American ruling class. Getting Obama elected was hard. Ever getting him out of office will be much harder. Presidential term limits will be under attack before this is over.

volsense on May 11, 2009 at 12:19 PM

I don’t believe Jesus said that Caesar owns everything or could take all private property without just compensation. Jesus didn’t abolish the laws against thievery. It’s always a wonder when atheists quote the words of Jesus during their power grabs. Chavez seems to be well on his way to turning Venezuela into the Rhodesia of South America (that’s Zimbabwe to all you lib socialists).

eaglewingz08 on May 11, 2009 at 12:21 PM

“Mi simpatico compadre, El Presdiente Obama is great encouragement to me!”

locomotivebreath1901 on May 11, 2009 at 12:24 PM

When someone thinks they are higher then others, they fall faster and harder.

Maybe, just maybe, the people of Venezuela wake up and revolt.

upinak on May 11, 2009 at 12:25 PM

Hugo Chavez, Caesar of South America

…and Mentor of the Gringo President.

petefrt on May 11, 2009 at 12:26 PM

Meanwhile, our Dear Leader is busy taking notes on this. . .

rbj on May 11, 2009 at 12:27 PM

….Chavez still maintains his popularity through Fidel Castro Obama-like speeches about returning wealth to the people…

ujorge on May 11, 2009 at 12:29 PM

Fidel Castro-like speeches about returning wealth to the people,

Who else makes speeches about returning the wealth to the people? Hmmmmmm, name eludes me… Hmmmmmmmmmmm…

/parallels

44Magnum on May 11, 2009 at 12:30 PM

Well, I hesitate to say this, but Cuba has lasted a long time. It all depends upon the people, and what they think they get out of it.

OldEnglish on May 11, 2009 at 12:30 PM

When has any oppressive government,given the wealth back to the people?

NONE!!!

They keep it for themselves, and throw out a few crumbs to the people. Not to much. Just enough, to placate them, and keep them in control. But that control is never long lasting.

Chavez is a legend in his own mind. An egotistical, maniacle, lunatic, who’s hell bent on control. When it seems the populace is to large to control….then the genocides begin. They’re already play nazi’s to the Jewish communitity there.

capejasmine on May 11, 2009 at 12:30 PM

HA!

Again??? Really? When will these imbeciles learn that 3rd world state oil companies cant match western corporate output. Period. I’m lookin at you too, Russia.

This guys an idiot. Poor clown.

ernesto on May 11, 2009 at 12:30 PM

All these ceasars are alike!

Shy Guy on May 11, 2009 at 12:31 PM

Where’s Brutus when you need him?

BrianA on May 11, 2009 at 12:37 PM

Somebody tell me what the “in bad taste” caption was???? I think the “lend me your private sector” is a little borderline, albeit hilarious. When Obama has his way will there be American Boat People? But where will they go?

bloggless on May 11, 2009 at 12:38 PM

Somebody needs to photoshop some guano on his shoulder.

Blake on May 11, 2009 at 12:40 PM

Again??? Really? When will these imbeciles learn that 3rd world state oil companies cant match western corporate output. Period. I’m lookin at you too, Russia.

This guys an idiot. Poor clown.

ernesto on May 11, 2009 at 12:30 PM

Our own President seems to have a similar preference for gov’t control over private control of industry. So I’m looking at Barry too.

JiangxiDad on May 11, 2009 at 12:40 PM

What is it about not having the minds to operate the machinery?

cobrakai99 on May 11, 2009 at 12:42 PM

Chavez is just a low-down rat snake in the toilet.

Daggett on May 11, 2009 at 12:42 PM

I wonder if Barry finished reading the book in Spanish from Chavez yet?

kingsjester on May 11, 2009 at 12:43 PM

I have not given up on my prediction–he will end up hanging from a lamp post.

patrick neid on May 11, 2009 at 12:43 PM

Capo Barackito Obamalini has the North American territory.

Capo Hughito Chavelini has the South American territory.

MB4 on May 11, 2009 at 12:44 PM

I visited with a woman from Venezuela a few weeks back, and our conversation was very enlightening. Her sister still lives in Venezuela and when they speak on the telephone, things have become very bad down there. They are rationing food and you cannot receive enough to feed the number of family members you might have residing in your home. For example, if you have eight members in the family, you might only receive three eggs on dairy day. Apparently, there are designated shopping days for certain items as well.

The Venezuelan woman here in the states fears for this nation. She said her family came here for refuge from out of control government, and they never thought America would fall into the hands of someone like Chavez. Yes, she firmly believes Obama is much akin to Hugo Chavez. How many times have we heard the same thing from other refugees from various countries either currently under control of dictators or formerly under control of dictators?

To me I cannot understand why the RNC is not airing ads using the voices of these people to convey to Americans the dangerous roads we are now traveling down. This woman I spoke with would be a great ambassador to the Hispanic communities as to why they should not be bamboozled by the Democrats. We should be building bridges to these peoples since Obama is hell bent, along with some Republicans, to legalize illegals. If we do not begin educating this voting block ASAP, we are going to find ourselves permanently out of power and it will not matter one whit what the American people want as far as what type of government we prefer. We will be another Venezuela!

freeus on May 11, 2009 at 12:45 PM

No wonder the Venezuelan middle class is now sitting in Colombia.

For those around here “not alarmed” by Obama’s statist economic policies because we are “too big to fail” take notice that Chavez has run the economy of the wealthiest country in Latin America into the ground with statist policies during a time of high oil prices and reciepts.

elduende on May 11, 2009 at 12:46 PM

C’mon Ed – how degrading to Caius Julius Caesar.

Princeps on May 11, 2009 at 12:51 PM

Regarding the photo:

Chavez walks into a doctor’s office with a green bird sitting on his shoulder.

Doctor says, “What can I do for you?”

The parrot says, “Can you remove this ugly wart from my ass?”

UltimateBob on May 11, 2009 at 12:52 PM

http://www.cuial.com/obama_love.jpg

izoneguy on May 11, 2009 at 12:53 PM

UltimateBob on May 11, 2009 at 12:52 PM

I am not responsible for replacing any keyboards or monitiors due to drinks being spewed out of mouths because of that one.

UltimateBob on May 11, 2009 at 12:54 PM

OT…breaking news

McKiernan is out, to be replaced in Afghanistan.

Pushed out according to Fox.

Knucklehead on May 11, 2009 at 12:55 PM

Our own President seems to have a similar preference for gov’t control over private control of industry. So I’m looking at Barry too.

JiangxiDad on May 11, 2009 at 12:40 PM

The glaring difference being that Chavez isnt cleaning up after bankrupt businesses. Obama, by and large, is inserting government control in the vacuums left by bankrupt businesses, particularly the auto industry.

ernesto on May 11, 2009 at 12:57 PM

To me I cannot understand why the RNC is not airing ads using the voices of these people to convey to Americans the dangerous roads we are now traveling down.

freeus on May 11, 2009 at 12:45 PM

Because no republicans have the cojones to take on a very popular president. They are still licking their wounds from the last election and don’t know what to do.

I’m very sorry to hear what your friend’s family is going through, and I agree with you – we are headed down that road.

Buy. Guns. and ammo. Now.

UltimateBob on May 11, 2009 at 12:59 PM

Obama, by and large, is inserting government control in the vacuums left by bankrupt businesses, particularly the auto industry.

Why? What did we do before Obama? If only someone could invent the rule of law.

JiangxiDad on May 11, 2009 at 12:59 PM

freeus on May 11, 2009 at 12:45 PM

There is mass denial going on in this country. I think it comes from an element of arrogance that “we won’t end up like Venezuela because we are the US” and therefore the largest economy in the world could never end up a socialist basket case.

Its amazing to me how someone can think a statist economic policy in Venezuela is bad but a statist economic policy implemented by Obama is ok because the damage will be minimal.

Dismissing the danger of Obama because we are not “Venezuela” is dangerous. Folks need to wake up.

elduende on May 11, 2009 at 1:03 PM

Chavez walks into a doctor’s office with a green bird sitting on his shoulder.

Doctor says, “What can I do for you?”

The parrot says, “Can you remove this ugly wart from my ass?”

UltimateBob on May 11, 2009 at 12:52 PM

ROFLMAO!!!

capejasmine on May 11, 2009 at 1:03 PM

So, what was the original caption?

joe_doufu on May 11, 2009 at 1:03 PM

So, what was the original caption?

joe_doufu on May 11, 2009 at 1:03 PM

I’m guessing it was “Who Sucks More, Chavez or Barry?”

JiangxiDad on May 11, 2009 at 1:06 PM

Why? What did we do before Obama? If only someone could invent the rule of law.

JiangxiDad on May 11, 2009 at 12:59 PM

You know why. His background ideology allows for a government solution to that problem. He’s misguided, but cmon, we know why. And theres no conflict with the rule of law when your philosophy accounts for loose interpretation of the constitution.

ernesto on May 11, 2009 at 1:06 PM

Eventually, Caesar made so many enemies that they found a way to dispatch him. Right now, Chavez still maintains his popularity through Fidel Castro-like speeches about returning wealth to the people

He ain’t the only one…

Akzed on May 11, 2009 at 1:07 PM

Yeah, what was the original caption?

lorien1973 on May 11, 2009 at 1:07 PM

Eventually, Caesar made so many enemies that they found a way to dispatch him. Right now, Chavez still maintains his popularity through Fidel Castro-like speeches about returning wealth to the people…

What Caesar giveth, Caesar will taketh.

So the citizens who have a family of 8 have to ration 3 eggs? I’ve noticed Hugo, is kinda getting Huge-O. Probably dining every night on waigo steaks, courtesy of the U.S.A. Our way of apologizing, ya know!

capejasmine on May 11, 2009 at 1:10 PM

You know why. His background ideology allows for a government solution to that problem. He’s misguided, but cmon, we know why. And theres no conflict with the rule of law when your philosophy accounts for loose interpretation of the constitution.

ernesto on May 11, 2009 at 1:06 PM

Like pulling teeth with you. Ernesto, the guy is a disaster. Parse any individual piece of it any way you like. Put together, he’s an enemy of the state–according to my philosophy:)

JiangxiDad on May 11, 2009 at 1:15 PM

And theres no conflict with the rule of law when your philosophy accounts for loose interpretation of the constitution.

ernesto on May 11, 2009 at 1:06 PM

Try that on a cop if you get pulled over for doing 100 in a 55 zone.

But officer, I have a loose interpretation of the speed limit. See you later.

MB4 on May 11, 2009 at 1:21 PM

Right now, Chavez still maintains his popularity through Fidel Castro-like speeches about returning wealth to the people, but when the illusion of wealth gets destroyed in the collapse, Chavez may find himself much more like Caesar than he wants…

You don’t suppose that Chavez’s control of Venezuela might have something to do with (i) Chavez’s popular support in Venezuela and (ii) the quality of survey data supporting the hypothesis that Chavez is popular?

But, fellow Americans, take note. Everything you see Chavez doing in Venezuela are things that our own Glorious Leader, Barack the Benevolent, will be doing here. He has already nationalized a huge part of our automobile industry and banking industry, and has his sights set on nationalizing health care. He already has used the power of Government to coerce the private sector into doing things they were not legally required to do (i.e. the Chrysler bondholders).

Simply unbelievable. And downright terrifying.

Outlander on May 11, 2009 at 1:22 PM

The glaring difference being that Chavez isnt cleaning up after bankrupt businesses. Obama, by and large, is inserting government control in the vacuums left by bankrupt businesses, particularly the auto industry.

ernesto on May 11, 2009 at 12:57 PM

What vacuum? There already is a recognized process for dealing with bankrupt businesses. It’s called the bankruptcy court, and it has nothing to do with seizing companies and giving them to your political backers.

MarkTheGreat on May 11, 2009 at 1:22 PM

What vacuum? There already is a recognized process for dealing with bankrupt businesses. It’s called the bankruptcy court, and it has nothing to do with seizing companies and giving them to your political backers.

MarkTheGreat on May 11, 2009 at 1:22 PM

AMEN!!!!!!

capejasmine on May 11, 2009 at 1:25 PM

Well, I hesitate to say this, but Cuba has lasted a long time. It all depends upon the people, and what they think they get out of it.

Those that opposed Fidel, or he thought they might be a threat to his communist revolution, did not live long enough to argue the point once he took power, and those that threaten the state since then have died or spent years in prison wishing they had. He long ago began shapeing the beliefs and loyality of the young minds of the children from the day they began attending state run schools. They are taught that Fidel is their father and knows what is best for them. They are taught that they must be dilegent to turn in those that do or say things they are not allowed to do or say, even their own parents. The people are poor and they see how the rest of the world lives, but when the government is the only one with the guns, they have little hope but risk life and prison to flee if they can, or accept the life they have little hope of changing.

Franklyn on May 11, 2009 at 1:27 PM

The thing I continually find amazing is that anyone is dealing with this guy in the first place. On a purely financial standpoint he seems like a dangerous person to invest with because he’s prone to not pay you for work rendered and then steal everything you have the misfortune of leaving in his country at any moment.

I don’t understand why anyone would drop dime one in that country unless they were getting a consistent and verified profit on an ongoing basis. Just pick up everything that isn’t nailed down and leave. After that try to sell what’s left to anyone foolish enough to buy it and invest your money in some place that pays it’s bills and respects property rights.

Karmashock on May 11, 2009 at 1:28 PM

The glaring difference being that Chavez isnt cleaning up after bankrupt businesses. Obama, by and large, is inserting government control in the vacuums left by bankrupt businesses, particularly the auto industry.
ernesto on May 11, 2009 at 12:57 PM

Obama is not “cleaning up after bankrupt businesses.” He could have done that, perhaps by agreeing to advance DIP financing to the car companies to help them through a real Chapter 11 restructuring in bankruptcy court. What actually happened was far more sinister: the government seized the car companies, made it appear to be legitimate by printing the money it “lent” to them, and then transferred 55% of the stock to the labor unions who, combined with the government, can vote in a majority of the board of directors. This is very Chavez-like.

Outlander on May 11, 2009 at 1:32 PM

This is very Chavez-like.

Outlander on May 11, 2009 at 1:32 PM

Mildly, not very. I understand where you’re coming from, but even that convoluted process is far from outright seizure.

ernesto on May 11, 2009 at 1:36 PM

Like pulling teeth with you. Ernesto, the guy is a disaster. Parse any individual piece of it any way you like. Put together, he’s an enemy of the state–according to my philosophy:)

JiangxiDad on May 11, 2009 at 1:15 PM

And thats my intent. Where I see a post from Ed or whomever that seems like it could use some brake pumping, i go in and pump the brakes as best i can. Its my thing man, let me have it :-)

ernesto on May 11, 2009 at 1:37 PM

What vacuum? There already is a recognized process for dealing with bankrupt businesses. It’s called the bankruptcy court, and it has nothing to do with seizing companies and giving them to your political backers.

MarkTheGreat on May 11, 2009 at 1:22 PM

I was going to add my two cents on this, but could not say it better, other than to add that ernesto clearly does not sit at the Fox table where reason and clarity still prevail.

Franklyn on May 11, 2009 at 1:41 PM

Ceaser actualy conquored stuff. Old Hugo hear is just stealing from his countrymen.

Not impressed.

sonofdy on May 11, 2009 at 1:43 PM

Hugo has forgotten that his ‘high sulfur’ oil is the ‘last cheap choice’ for importers because it takes so much more processing.

GarandFan on May 11, 2009 at 1:51 PM

Caesar Chavez would be so proud.
/sarc

bluelightbrigade on May 11, 2009 at 1:52 PM

Caesar Chavez: Friends, Venezuelans, Countrymen, bend me your rears.

I come not to raise your fortunes, but to bury them.

Steve Z on May 11, 2009 at 1:54 PM

Before Fidel seized power in Cuba, Cuba was one of the richest country in Latin America. The other was Argentina.

Both have been perenial basket cases since they abandoned capitalism for socialism/communism.

MarkTheGreat on May 11, 2009 at 1:57 PM

History scholar here and I have to fix a minor error in Ed’s post as well as what some people are saying. The Caesar Jesus was referring to was either Tiberius, Germanicus (Caligula), or Claudius depending on which date you take for the crucifixion. Tiberius was a laid back guy who really didn’t want to run things and retired while he was still emperor, Caligula was insane, and Claudius was highly intelligent but he had some physical deformities so people thought of his as an idiot. Take your pick which Caesar is the closest to Obama.

txaggie on May 11, 2009 at 1:59 PM

The thing I continually find amazing is that anyone is dealing with this guy in the first place

Socialism usually works for large corporations. It is a lot easier to deal with a socilist governemnt that controls the people than a government that the people have a voice in. Unfortunately in the case of Venezuala that socilist goverment has moved more towards communisum where bribes and concessions do not work. as they have discovered.

Franklyn on May 11, 2009 at 2:00 PM

Romanii Ite Domum

mojo on May 11, 2009 at 2:05 PM

“To God what is God’s, and to Caesar what is Caesar’s,” said Venezuela’s President Hugo Chávez, as he presided over the expropriation of at least a dozen rigs, more than 30 oil terminals and some 300 boats.

I have no idea what the average Venezuelan thinks of Socialism, but will they tolerate this kind of blatant sacrilege? I’d think that would actually be a much bigger deal to most of them.

logis on May 11, 2009 at 2:08 PM

Mildly, not very. I understand where you’re coming from, but even that convoluted process is far from outright seizure.

ernesto on May 11, 2009 at 1:36 PM

Outright seizure would more readily incense Americans-even perhaps liberals.
Far better to go about such things in a convoluted way so as to avoid the appearance of seizing the private industry outright.
But I guess I’m just a conspiracy theorist at heart when it comes to those in power.

Badger40 on May 11, 2009 at 2:22 PM

freeus on May 11, 2009 at 12:45 PM

Why the RNC is not airing this information? Twofold a media that actively supports chavez and chickenshititis. The biggest problem is the failure of journalists to actually do their jobs. They’ve abused the 1st Amendment and now they’re going to pay for it gladly by licking the messiahs shriveled nut-sac.

jdkchem on May 11, 2009 at 2:41 PM

Outright seizure would more readily incense Americans-even perhaps except liberals.

Badger40 on May 11, 2009 at 2:22 PM

The only way you’ll incenses the blue-crackers is by nationalizing Starbucks and brie. They’ll gladly sign over every freedom and dignity just for lick of messiah sweaty balls and happy feelings.

Let me add to the debate in a way that would and should incense the ignorant blue crackers with a little payback for their “education camp” remarks. They should be managed like wildlife. That means hunting season. For you sporting hunters we’ll even have a black powder season!

jdkchem on May 11, 2009 at 2:49 PM

In the end, the gulags will be all that is left to use.

tarpon on May 11, 2009 at 2:51 PM

When someone thinks they are higher then others, they fall faster and harder.

Maybe, just maybe, the people of Venezuela America wake up and revolt.

upinak on May 11, 2009 at 12:25 PM

Fixed.

garry on May 11, 2009 at 3:01 PM

But I guess I’m just a conspiracy theorist at heart when it comes to those in power.

Badger40 on May 11, 2009 at 2:22 PM

Im sure you put the PATRIOT act under the same rigorous skepticism.

ernesto on May 11, 2009 at 3:24 PM

Im sure you put the PATRIOT act under the same rigorous skepticism.

ernesto on May 11, 2009 at 3:24 PM

Why would a right-thinking person apply the same level of skepticism to an action taken by someone they support politically, and someone they don’t.

For example, under Bush or McCain, the Patriot Act is OK by me. Under Obama, I assume he’ll use it nefariously.

Every four years in November we have to stop playing as if both sides are equal, and actually choose one over the other.I voted for that asshole McCAin. Who did you vote for?

JiangxiDad on May 11, 2009 at 3:29 PM

Im sure you put the PATRIOT act under the same rigorous skepticism.

ernesto on May 11, 2009 at 3:24 PM

Why would a right-thinking person apply the same level of skepticism to an action taken by someone they support politically, and someone they don’t.

For example, under Bush or McCain, the Patriot Act is OK by me. Under Obama, I assume he’ll use it nefariously.

Every four years in November we have to stop playing as if both sides are equal, and actually choose one over the other.I voted for that assh*le McCAin. Who did you vote for?

JiangxiDad on May 11, 2009 at 3:29 PM

As to going down the road already traveled by Cuba, my Venezuelan friend said the Cubans who are still alive, and not in prison, they are so messed up in head and have been under Castro for so long, “they are like zombies and no good to anyone in fighting for independence.” Sound familiar? Sure it does. Obamazombies! She is worried if Chavez is allowed to flourish and be a long lasting version of Castro that the same thing will happen to those in Venezuela.

I agree regarding the sentiment that Americans think something very similar cannot happen here. I have traveled to other countries during my lifetime and it always astounds me how much we take for granted. We have far too many people who have no regard for history and the lessons offered to us for free. I am a believer that it can happen here, and those of us screaming the sky is falling are being treated much like the boy who cried wolf.

Well if the RNC will not air ads, I hope independent free thinking Conservatives will. This guy running the health care ads did not wait for the RNC and I do not think any of us should wait for them to catch a clue!

LMAO! UltimateBob is dah winnah! That is hilarious stuff! Maybe you should do the roasting bits from now on!

freeus on May 11, 2009 at 3:48 PM

He’s gotta be Caesar because he’s certainly no O—a, right?

Also, Chavez likes to assume what is God’s is his anyway, as he is tighening the screws on Jews and Christians.

Grafted on May 11, 2009 at 3:50 PM

God and Caesar!

burt on May 11, 2009 at 3:53 PM

Two factors that will not allow this country to ever resume its position in the world……corruption amd incompetence. Barry is a master at manipulating both. Long live the king.

volsense on May 11, 2009 at 4:12 PM

[DELEATE] this 3rd world ass backwards primitive asshole!
Why in hell doesn’t someone pop a cap in this sorry SOB already!!

try again later on May 11, 2009 at 5:39 PM

Please do not insult Gaius Julius Caeser.

The man was a despot, yes, but he did genuinely look out for many of the Plebs (unlike Chavez, who claims to), was up against a similarly-flawed Senate, and was certainly brave enough.

The comparison is hardly just.

Turtler on May 11, 2009 at 7:27 PM

Franklyn on May 11, 2009 at 1:27 PM

Your comment is accurate, of course. But, they are the inevitable end result of what was a popular revolution – by the people, hoping to steal whatever they could.

OldEnglish on May 11, 2009 at 8:20 PM