Movie review: Star Trek
posted at 9:15 am on May 10, 2009 by Ed Morrissey
Ever since I was young, I have been fascinated by the Star Trek franchise, more so than any other science-fiction series. The Utopian concept worked in that time frame, especially since in the original series they frequently let it fray around the edges. In The Next Generation, they took it far more seriously, sometimes to a tiresome level. By the time DS-9 rolled around, the series took a Casablanca vibe that started off well and then got strangely messianic, and finally the entire enterprise lost me at Voyager and, well, Enterprise. It had lost its sense of fun and ability to surprise, and almost seemed like a religion — or maybe a lecture series — more than a speculative fantasy.
Nevertheless, I didn’t initially believe that the new “reboot” movie Star Trek would be an improvement. The previews looked like Star Trek mated with Transformers by way of Dawson’s Creek, or perhaps Starship Troopers. Like almost all of the previews that accompanied the film, it looked like a chaotic mess of special effects combined with cliché-driven dialogue (which comprised the entirety of Transformers, whose sequel is one of the previews). It would, I supposed, do nothing but exploit the careful crafting of the Trek universe and its characters for steroidal explosions, manic dialogue, moronic love triangles, and cheap laughs.
Oddly enough, while these elements do exist in Star Trek, the movie itself is a winning combination of rethinking, swashbuckling, and most critically a respect for the characterizations that made the original series so much of a classic that it launched six motion pictures more than a decade after its cancellation. It plays hell with the Trek “canon”, but only the geekiest of the geeks and the nerdiest of the nerds will mind, especially since the movie has an explanation for it, which is itself an homage to the Trek universe. It brings a surprise return of a beloved cast member in a key role befitting his standing.
I don’t want to give too much away in the overall review, so below I will discuss some of the details of what worked and what didn’t for me as a long-time Trek fan in white text so that readers can choose whether to see it. There were plenty of both, but perhaps I was so surprised to find myself legitimately entertained that I was more than happy to excuse the latter while I enjoyed the former. In all truth, we Trek fans have to admit that the television series had their own brand of cheesiness, and the Bay-like elements of this film simply replace those with a more modern type. If this film is shorter on philosophy and soap-opera elements (and not that much shorter on the soap opera, actually), it’s the fastest-paced Trek film I can recall from first to last. Unlike most of those films, non-Trekkies will find themselves enchanted, too.
The cast does a fine job, perhaps especially Zachary Quinto as Spock and Eric Bana as Nero, a grittier and less flamboyant villain than in most Trek movies, which isn’t hard to accomplish. Bruce Greenwood is excellent as Christopher Pike, the original commander of the Enterprise, and one hopes to see more of him in the sequels. Chris Pine does a good job of making Kirk into a bad boy, and Zoe Saldana makes Uhura much more than just a comms officer. Karl Urban does a good Bones McCoy, after his terrific turn as Eomer in the Lord of the Rings trilogy, but I couldn’t quite shake the resemblance to Tommy Christopher. I’ve seen Tommy in a Star Trek uniform and it’s not pretty.
I do have one non-spoiler gripe, however. For a series that has always taken its science seriously, at least internally, why do Star Trek movies always have sound effects for explosions in space? The only series I recall that actually handled that properly, Firefly and its movie follow-up Serenity, had no such scientific pretenses but knew that sound doesn’t travel in a vacuum — and for that matter, fireballs don’t exist in space either.
Spoilers follow in the rest of the review. Highlight to the bottom of the post to read further.
So what works and what doesn’t? I thought the explanation of the disruption of the time sequence was good, and it allowed the producers to change the “canon” to suit their purposes for the reboot. It moved the series away from the Roddenberry era, which had been happening anyway for most of the last 15-20 years. It didn’t quite explain the differences in rank that existed in the original series, though. Pavel Chekov and Hikaru Sulu were significantly younger than Kirk, and their inclusion at the Academy at the same time doesn’t make much sense. Chekov’s presence is explained by making him a prodigy, which he clearly wasn’t during the original series; he was a rebellious wiseguy, included to attract the counterculture during the Summer of Love.
A few exchanges made me raise one eyebrow, Spock-like, during the movie. First, Pike’s decision to make Kirk the first officer made no sense at all. In the assembly, we saw dozens of graduates who would have outranked Kirk, some of whom wound up on Enterprise for the mission. Why pick the guy who just got his butt in a sling for not taking a key test seriously? The emotional outburst of Spock seemed utterly contrived, so much so that one would hope that any Vulcan that gullible would not be made responsible for Star Fleet finances. The writers appeared to lack a clear idea of how to get Kirk into the captain’s chair by proving his brilliance, but instead had to make everyone else around Kirk so stupid that he was the only option left. Military discipline seemed completely absent, which is something that the original series actually did fairly well, even when they made it more casual and natural.
But this is supposed to be fun, not serious business, which is something Trek 1.0 forgot. It’s fun to have the old gang back again, this time with a new cast portraying them. If that means we need a couple of black holes and the destruction of Vulcan and six billion Vulcans, including Winona Ryder, then so be it. It’s the Next Generation, after all, and I’ll be there on opening weekend for the next Trek.
Update: Some comments may have spoilers, so proceed with caution. Also, I’m reminded that Babylon 5 handled space destruction sequences realistically, too.









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Yep. DS9 really took a chance when it departed from the utopian and took an honest stab at the dark underbelly of the Federation. War, espionage, racism and cultural friction, justice, fascism, greed, murder, and best of all, entire non-human centric episodes for a much-needed change.
Loved it right up until the last season, which was clearly phoned-in junk.
TMK on May 10, 2009 at 12:37 PM
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I would just like to say, this proves your arrogance. This movie’s winning combination doesn’t include the elements you thought it would, that would make it bad. Therein your own presuppositions are outweighed by your conclusions. Had you had no presuppositions, and evaluated the movie outright you would’ve come to find that
are exactly what you wanted to see in the first place, and more.
PresidenToor on May 10, 2009 at 12:40 PM
saw it last night, absolutely loved it. my girlfriend cried not once, not twice, but THREE times! she’s an admitted star trek nerd though, so take that with a grain of salt. But…
Zachary Quinto really does a magnificent Spock. I mean magnificent, and him fitting his role was probably the most important casting decision they had to make. Bones was another practically perfect performance. Ahh to hear “dammit jim” again…The other characters did well enough to fit the description without taking anything away, so no complaints there.
In the end, some may see the pace and lack of social commentary as a critical flaw. I see a damn near perfect attempt at bringing classic characters that define how many Americans see themselves into a new story, with new possibilities. I cant wait for the sequels.
ernesto on May 10, 2009 at 12:42 PM
I guess I must be “the geekiest of the geeks and the nerdiest of the nerds” because I did mind that canon was made hell of. I was not impressed with the movie. The plot was not tightly knitted together and Kirk beoming Captain in one jump? Who wants a military organized like that?
Uhura and Spock? Not my cup of tea – maybe this will get better in the next movie.
Villians were not as good as the villians on TNG and DS9. I will take Q and the Borg over bald, tatooed Romulans.
I loved Bones and liked the explanation for that name.
This movie requires a born again Trekkie to take a leap of faith. I will do that by paying to see it again and again and anything that follows. But I might not like it and I will complain if I don’t.
Live Long and Prosper.
Sweetness0726 on May 10, 2009 at 12:43 PM
loved it….awesome
multiple sequels with talented actors
sooooo…Spock gettin busy..what up
didn’t even care about the shoddy physics
loved it
loved it
JJKRN on May 10, 2009 at 12:45 PM
Enterprise gets a bad rap Ed that isn’t it’s fault. I think people hate it because it followed so many crappy shows before it. Next Generation was only good because we hadn’t had new Star Trek television in decades. People were starving and when you’re starving nay food will do. Viewing the series now you quickly realize the bland flavor of the series with paeans to leftists tropes. It somehow seems more dated than the original series! Deep Space 9 is a complete rip off of Babylon 5, except with acting and writing as dull as the setting. Voyager was garbage plain and simple. Filled with generic PC characters, lackluster acting and special effects Voyager was the worst Star Trek series. However, over a decade viewers became use to this style of Star Trek. Simple pablum devoted to alien unity and love democrat-style filled with cardboard characters. Enterprise was different and that difference left viewers scratching their heads. It brought back the original themes of discovery and exploration. The dangers of man’s leap into the star-filled abyss. It did this well. The acting and writing was top notch. You cared about these characters and they had depth. The story lines pulled you in as they dealt with pre-Starfleet space exploration. Rewatch the series sometime Ed. If it hadn’t been for a horrible syndication situation that left the show un-aired in large swaths of the country (included Scott Bakula’s hometown) and the burden of previous shows Enterprise would have been more well-received. Enterprise, love it or hate it, is the most like the original series in terms of theme, characters and entertainment.
chicagojedi on May 10, 2009 at 12:47 PM
The plot was silly but the movie was great fun. Great cast and great sense of humor.
Khan is still the best though.
packsoldier on May 10, 2009 at 12:49 PM
One must admit though, that it was only logical to rearrange canon. While doing so in such a bombastic way, with old time losing one planet and new space time losing another…it was done tastefully, and in a manner befitting star trek. it did so in a way that created both an intriguing way to get the cadets into space and an even more intriguing way of getting Leonard Nimoy on set.
I think at the end of the day the movie’s crew made the observation that peoples connection to trek is not with the “universe” per se but with its characters, specifically Kirk and Spock. They focused their efforts on perfecting the latter, a logical decision in my view :-)
ernesto on May 10, 2009 at 12:50 PM
:lol I was campy then…and will continue to be campy now…;)
dec5 on May 10, 2009 at 12:51 PM
And the new movie was great, but you still feel a sense of loss knowing that even those almost all the actors are perfect in their roles they aren’t the original crew. But hearing Bones call Spock a green-blooded hobgoblin filled me with glee. I give it an A- An A for an excellent, entertaining reboot to the series that really gives you your money’s worth. A minus for some TV tendencies in a big screen movie and all the lens flares.
chicagojedi on May 10, 2009 at 12:54 PM
Loved it, and I’ve been a trekkie since before most of you were born.
Flying Motorcycle, no…
Sulu’s collapsible Katana, oh yes.
Suspension of belief is what it is all about. This movie was fine.
trainer on May 10, 2009 at 12:56 PM
Karl Urban BECAME McCoy. As someone who was 14 when the original series was on and has seen all epiodes of all the Trek series, all the movies, and read most of the books this was awesome. Meanwhile back to coup planning…Now how many bridges on I95 from Fayetteville to DC?
bill30097 on May 10, 2009 at 12:56 PM
The action scenes totally sucked ass – and that was like half the movie. If you’re showing a fight scene, why do you need to film everything in Super CloseUp Spinning Shaky Cam-o-Vision(TM)? It’s more than a little pathetic that anybody above the age of six months could be enthralled by that – let alone that directors can build entire careers on that kind of lame hack.
No explanation for Kirk “accidentally” tripping over Spock. Sure it’s hard to comprehend the vastness of a galaxy – those things are freakin’ huge. But who doesn’t have some idea how big a planet is? Where have they lived their whole lives?
And what’s with the Willy Wanka engine room? Was that REALLY necessary?
logis on May 10, 2009 at 1:01 PM
Ultimately it’s about your product turning a profit. I honestly don’t see anything cowardly about not producing something that you are almost 100% certain will not turn a profit. Theatrical releases are all about appealing to as broad of an audience as possible. It sucks but that’s the reality.
The idea you have would be great for a comic book, or a fan-made series, or possibly even a TV or straight to DVD movie. But a theatrical release? It’s like investing your life savings in a stock that had a 99% chance to lose money and a 1% chance to break even. At least with a TV movie you have advertising space to sell. A theatrical release requires expert marketing and distribution to get enough butts in the seats to turn a profit, as well as a good DVD campaign (where a good chunk of movie revenue comes from nowadays).
TheMightyMonarch on May 10, 2009 at 1:01 PM
Excellent movie. Go see it!
Static on May 10, 2009 at 1:02 PM
Amen. Enterprise was the truest to the original series. Generations for at least the first 4-5 seasons was dreck. Then they got smart; they got the annoying teenage punk off the show, and the minimized the telepath and her snivelling bullsh*t. The only thing that was good about Generations was that it was Star Trek. DS9 had much better casting and lost some of that Utopian cr*p that made Generations so preachy and unwatchable. I didn’t mind the concept of Voyager but that casting was weak and i didn’t follow as closely as I should for the simple fact I didn’t like any of the characters enough to care.
Enterprise had great casting, and some wonderful tributes to the orignal series. Remember their spin on Mirror/Mirror? Hunting the Gorn through the Constitution class Defiant that had come back from Kirk’s time? Simply awesome. In all the years it was on, Generations didn’t have a single episode that even came close to that.
As to the New movie, I’ll just say this. With Wolverine, i saw it twice in one day. Awesome movie. The new Trek..meh, it wasn’t bad. Roldi turned in a pretty good Sulu; I really like where they went with Uhura, although seeing her suck face with that Sylar turned my stomach. Eomer as Mccoy..wasn’t sure I was going to like it but he did an awesome job, as did the guy playing Scottie, although the weird creature that he was carrying around needs to go. Chekov..never one of my favorites, was annoying but as I don’t like him anyway, I don’t really care who plays him.
The worst part of the movie was what they did to the bridge. Who the **ck signed off on that look? It didn’t look like a Starship bridge; it looked like a children’s playground interpretation of a spaceship bridge..or maybe the bridge of a Cocoon like movie with all the soft color and pastels. It ***king blew. I kept expecting Wilford Brimly to wander through in his undershorts and a wifebeater t-shirt and tell the kids to keep it down. Even Generations, as bad as it sucked, had a better bridge design. Scale of 1-10..I’d give the movie a 6.5.
austinnelly on May 10, 2009 at 1:06 PM
I’ve been a Trekkie all my life. I never bought a starfleet shirt, but I’ve been sorely tempted to do so several times.
I loved the new film. I’m not ready to pronounce it the best ST film, though – it takes time to let things settle in.
Why did I love the film?
- It clearly made a delineation from the previous shows. It did NOT change canon, that’s all still there. It created a NEW and ALTERNATE reality. For comic book fans, it’s basically Ultimate Star Trek.
- It loves the original characters. You don’t need to be a Trekkie to love the new film, but if you are, there are ALL KINDS of references and in-jokes (my favorite was Kirk eating an apple during the Kobayashi Maru test). The actors weren’t Shatner, Nimoy, Kelley, etc., but the characters were Kirk, Spock, McCoy, etc. A little different to be sure, but still very recognizable.
- It was fun. The latter ST series lost me mostly because they ceased to be fun. The characters in TOS had a lot of fun and ENJOYED doing their jobs. I don’t need or want a whole lot of “sturm und drang” in my Star Trek. I don’t need Picard moralizing and fretting for an hour. I want some fun and some humor in Star Trek and this movie has it. It really recapture the sheer fun of TOS.
And I actually “enjoyed” the destruction of the planet. Not because I enjoyed that species being all but wiped out, but it showed a willingness of the writers to create a universe that wasn’t safe. There is no drama if I don’t believe the characters might actually be permanently harmed or even killed. If I know that the whole thing will be “rebooted” back to it’s starting position every episode or every movie, then there’s no real drama.
Religious_Zealot on May 10, 2009 at 1:10 PM
I meant the TV show was campy then, and the movie was campy now….:lol Nice to see some things continue to stay the same
after 40 years…;)
dec5 on May 10, 2009 at 1:15 PM
I thought it was excellent. The Uhura-Spock relationship was a brilliant innovation; a classy girl like her would be perfect for the deeply stoic Spock. I also really liked the way they dealt with the Kobiyashi Maru test, and the debate afterward. It must have been hard to write that. So he starts off looking like a punk but makes a case that “the test itself is a cheat” that visibly shakes Spock.
I did think it was a little crazy how fast Kirk went from being a stowaway cadet to being first officer, but I suppose Pike just really trusted him. My interpretation of the last dialogue between Kirk and Spock was that “first officer” is not an actual rank, but rather a designation the captain bestows on a crew member of his choosing.
joe_doufu on May 10, 2009 at 1:16 PM
I didn’t have much of a problem with that for the following reasons:
- it was noted that even before entering Starfleet, Kirk’s aptitude test results were “off the chart.”
- It normally takes 4 years to become an officer, Kirk did it (like he said he would) in 3
- Pike had already stated his strong belief that Kirk could be a great Captain
So, yes, normally a cadet doesn’t become captain so quickly.
But then again, Kirk was no normal cadet.
Religious_Zealot on May 10, 2009 at 1:21 PM
If you want to watch the finest trek tv episode ever watch DS9′s “in the Pale Moonlight”
Where else does a Star Fleet officer get involved with a coverup, murder and ultimately gets a rival empire to join the war on the federations side by killing one of its leaders and framing the other side ?
I think that was the episode that cause the leftie trekies heads to explode and demand that DS9 wasnt “Real Trek”
William Amos on May 10, 2009 at 1:30 PM
I liked the engine room. You ever seen the engine room of a real naval ship? Go take a look if you ever get the chance (Puget Sound has the Turner Joy). The Room is chaos. Only someone who knows where things are would ever know what to do in that place. That’s what the engine room in this movie looked like. Same with the shuttle deck. I loved it! Sure the bridge was flashy and shiny, but the shuttle bay was exactly what it should be: Functional and pragmatic. Support beams here and there and none of the frilly pretty stuff you saw else where. I never liked the engine room of TNG. It was far too clean and not very realistic. It’s the engine room but everything is covered in pretty, clean paneling? Uh huh. Sure. Not even in the 28th century.
I liked this most of all because it focussed on the characters. That’s what’s important. They deliberately took paths that the original show stayed away from. All the characters are…diamonds in the rough so to speak. They have a long way to go, but you can see the essence of who they are. It was actually kinda fun watching and noting where things diverged from the original storyline. It would have been nice to see Kirk display his brilliance a bit more. But still, I thought the “Spock freaking out” bit was realistic. This is a younger spock who still has much to learn, remember.
MikeJ on May 10, 2009 at 1:31 PM
The movie is overall great entertainment and will appeal to just about anyone, especially if you grew up watching the original series in the 60s or the afternoon reruns in the 70s.
They didn’t explain the time travel element very well…Spock’s mother gets killed off here but she obviously lives in the original series. I kept thinking they were going to “rewarp” time somehow to correct things, so it looks like we’re stuck in the alternate reality moving forward in sequeals….interesting…an opportunity for a completely different story set for the original crew!! Sly indeed.
I thought Kirk was very well played and in a couple of shots looked the spittin’ image of Shatner.
starman on May 10, 2009 at 1:33 PM
William Amos on May 10, 2009 at 1:30 PM
I love, Love, LOVE that episode.
Laura on May 10, 2009 at 1:46 PM
Willy Wonka and the Chocolate Factory was a movie (actually two movies.) That’s where the goofy scene with the guy going through a whole bunch of glass tubes came from.
If the “naval ship engine room” you think you’ve seen looks anything like that, sorry, but I’m afraid you’ve been the victim of a weird joke.
logis on May 10, 2009 at 1:57 PM
I’d agree with you if the formula you advocate made money, but bomb-tastic flops like Battlefield Earth, AI, Waterworld, and dozens of other formulaic disasters, vs. wonderfully original yet equally floppy flops like the Labyrinth, Dark City, Blade Runner, or Dune, vs. blockbuster train wrecks like the Star Wars Prequels and the Matrix prove only one thing; Sci-Fi is unpredictable as a cenematic money maker, good or garbage.
TMK on May 10, 2009 at 2:00 PM
Puts the whole torture debate into perspective that episode does.
William Amos on May 10, 2009 at 2:00 PM
I only had a few questions about the movie (coming from someone who was once a die-hard Trekkie but grew tired of the non-stop preaching and political correctness from Next Gen through Voyager:)
1. Why did main engineering look like a sewer? God, that sucked.
2. What was up with the bridge? I liked the viewscreen effects but come on, too much white. Its like the whole ship is a hospital. Bring back the blueish stuff already.
3. How did that one drop of red matter end up creating such a huge black hole to destroy Vulcan but the whole ball french kissing the Romulan ship creates a hole only big enough to gradually suck it in?
4. Speaking of Vulcan, what’s this with a newly created black hole destroying a planet in minutes?!? The writers should have had a chat with the physicists behind the LHC before putting that in.
Other than that, it was pretty good. I liked the part where the young Kirk was being chased by RoboCop. Never expected Tyler Perry to play a serious role.
Ryan Gandy on May 10, 2009 at 2:00 PM
What I thought was real touching was the interview with Leanard Nimoy who said that he was heving a real hard time everytime he watched all of the cast working together because they were being so true to his friends that he had worked with for so long. Particularly Karl Urban, whom he said regularly moved his to tears because of his honest protrayal of McCoy in a way that he said “Deforrest [Kelley] would have loved.”
I thought Simon Pegg absoloutely stole the show. I liked Sulu, making him into a little more of a badass but sliping in the referense about fenching that those of us who remember the “Naked Time” episode with him running onto the bridge with a fencing foil and no shirt could appreciate.
I LOVED Karl Urban’s McCoy, being a cynical southerner myself, he was always my favorite. I was glad Uhura and Chekov were a little more fleshed out and given some depth. And I really thought that Pine and Quinto did a good job of honoring Kirk and Spock without mocking them.
Also loved the Tyler Perry Cameo, and the fact that they found a way to get Chris Pike into his oft-parodied wheelchair at the end even though he does not need to “Beep once for No and Twice for Yes anymore.”
Squid Shark on May 10, 2009 at 2:07 PM
I though Quinto and Urban were so damn close to the originals its almost scary.
ernesto on May 10, 2009 at 2:10 PM
The acting was good, I like the rebuilt characters and their interaction with one another. The series has potential but this movie was mediocre. I felt I had seen all of those action scenes before, they were literallly ripped out of other movies and cut like an MTV music video. The plot was just too lame for me to ignore. The writers rushed through the story telling to get to the next CGI action scene. I am not a Star Trek fan but even I was put off by their complete disregard for the canon and their cheap time travel explanation. It was all just a big mess to me which is too bad because I was really enjoying myself at first. I honestly think they should have left out the Enterprise in this one and just made a movie about Kirks days in Starfleet Academy. Instead he is a green 25 year old Captain of a prized ship with a an equally inexperienced crew? I am not overthinking this, I just felt they could have this more intelligently without relying so heavily on coincedence and suspension of disbelief.
Most important is the characters though and the groundwork is set for great moments in future films.
Daemonocracy on May 10, 2009 at 2:11 PM
Squid Shark on May 10, 2009 at 2:07 PM
I was OK with that . . . there’s bound to be at least 20 years between that and the series, maybe something happens to him in the sequel.
But TBH, in addition to my earlier post, I was kind of hoping they would have used Shatner’s old monologue for the part at the end.
Ryan Gandy on May 10, 2009 at 2:14 PM
I think the thing that bothered me the most about the film was the “shaky cam” style during the action scenes. Speilberg did it right with Pvt. Ryan, some herky-jerky, but you could still tell what was going on.
I’m also not sure I like the water-treatment plant engine room.
The whole Academy to Captain thing was annoying too. No Lt. Kirk saving the Farragut? But different timeline different rules I guess.
Urban’s McCoy was great.
Enterprise the series got totally kneecapped. They couldn’t balance the need to be swashbuckling Pre-Kirk Federation with Modern Hollywood Political Correctness. It seemed like they crammed an 8 season run into 4 seasons. Plus you never knew when it was on. Should’ve been run on Sci-Fi in the first place.
Iblis on May 10, 2009 at 2:17 PM
OK, I’m a sucker for Star Trek. I’ll go see the movie, and hope it’s a fun ride.
I guess I’m the only one here who liked Voyager. Oh,well. It was not, from my perspective, any preachier than TNG or DS9, and I thought the actors did a lot with their SOMETIMES one-dimensional roles (and compared with any of the other series, I don’t see that as a distinction of Voyager anyway). They were a great group. The episode plots fell across a range from silly and recycled to compelling and memorable. Like the other ST series, basically. Kept me watching, at a time in my life when I watched almost no TV at all.
Well, Voyager defense mounted. Enterprise was OK, but ended up being my least favorite. Couldn’t beat the original. I picked a day a few months ago and watched an episode from each of the series on cable, where there was a channel carrying each of them at different times in the day. One thing that was fun was detecting the social and political time in which each of them was made, through the prism of the aspirational ST universe.
It’s hard to think of another cultural/entertainment phenomenon so iconic in so many dimensions.
J.E. Dyer on May 10, 2009 at 2:22 PM
Well Abrams let Nimoy sign off on Quinto as part of him coming on board. He clearly approved of Urbans take as well.
I always thought that Nimoy and Kelley were the real professionals in that cast too.
Squid Shark on May 10, 2009 at 2:26 PM
Saw the movie yesterday and I loved it. Loved the action and effects and the relationships. My only problems were I always hate it when they get into time travel. Things start to get really unbelievable over the line.
TNG always seemed to have stupid time travel stuff going on. So much time travel going on yet they were always trying to keep from changing history,, which just becomes so stupid then because who’s to say what time is the real time or what history is the correct history!
The original series had little preaching. TNG was pure lib garbage.
JellyToast on May 10, 2009 at 2:30 PM
Dyer go to the movie, I’m sure you will enjoy it. It is one of the best Trek movies. Anyone who goes to a Trek movie to see scientific accuracy must go to Superman movies thinking, how do the scriptwriters justify anyone being able to fly and still be dense enough to stop bullets and other lethal weapons penetrating his body?
It was good to see that Spock had a love interest in the movie and I think far too little attention has been given to a wonderful performance by Scottie. Again kudos to the cast, they all did a great job with the material which had the potential to be a bomb not just of red matter, but this movie was transformative. The funny thing about the movie is that Obama has been compared to Spock, but in the movie Spock has shown more authentic emotion and anger than Obama has in the past few years. Maybe those commentators and comparers meant to compare Obama to Data’s misprogrammed brother robot? Obama, I know Mr. Spock, Mr. Spock is a friend of mine and you Mr. Obama are no Mr. Spock.
eaglewingz08 on May 10, 2009 at 2:39 PM
eaglewingz08 — Funny, I had thought of Obama not as Data’s misprogrammed robot brother, but as Shinzon, the tortured clone with the faux-calm demeanor.
Metaphorically speaking, of course.
J.E. Dyer on May 10, 2009 at 2:47 PM
I guess I’ll be in the minority, but I didn’t like the movie at all. The plot was thin at best, and it just seemed extremely forced. And everything I invested in over the decades was changed by this silly plot. (Yeah, I know they did it so they can continue with the current cast) Also, we’re to believe Earth was left totally defenseless with no ground defenses, so a Romulon vessel could just attack the Earth at will? Pfffttt!
I did not like the throw away sequence of a young Kirk stealing the car. That’s about 5 minutes of the movie that could’ve been cut…although I understand why they did it…I didn’t find it necessary.
To be fair, the movie was visually stunning, and I couldn’t believe I had been in the movie theater for over 2 hours (previews included).
SouthernGent on May 10, 2009 at 2:48 PM
No, I love Voyager! The episode about Fear was compelling.
SouthernGent on May 10, 2009 at 2:50 PM
Voyager is pretty much responsible for our current real world mess.
Voyager Seven-of-Nine character was the only character in tres hot high heeled boots and uniform with molded in breast support. —-> Fueling tabloid interest in actress Jeri Ryan —-> Creating pressure/excuse for Democratic judge to unseal divorce papers between her and Jack Ryan —-> eventually leading him to withdraw from his US Senate campaign to be replaced by the hapless Alan Keyes —-> resulting in the essentially unopposed election of Barak Obama.
Thank you very much Star Trek.
deadman on May 10, 2009 at 3:09 PM
OK, deadman, you win. LOL
J.E. Dyer on May 10, 2009 at 3:16 PM
I’m not a sci-fi fan(the last ST flick I saw in theaters was “Wrath of Khan”) but I really liked it.
The characters-esp. Scotty, Bones, Chekov,-were well played.
When I saw Nimoy though-I didn’t “see” Spock-I saw an elderly Jewish gentleman. LoL
annoyinglittletwerp on May 10, 2009 at 3:17 PM
I also like the sound the ships made when they went into warp. Pow!
joe_doufu on May 10, 2009 at 3:26 PM
Hey, did anyone here ever watch Leonard Nimoy when he was a co-star on Mission: Impossible during the 4th and 5th seasons, where he played disguise master/magician Paris? I saw an episode or two with him, and he was pretty good there too. In fact, if you’d like to watch one with him, I found one available on Youtube. Here are the links:
Part One.
Part Two.
Part Three.
Part Four.
Part Five.
This is the episode called “Hunted”, originally broadcast on November 21, 1970. While Greg Morris is actually the primary focus of this story, Nimoy also does a very good job in serving as a decoy trying to lead the enemy forces away from his fellow spy until the rest of the IMF can rescue them. Good stuff. :) Many people seem to overlook it, but Nimoy’s role on Mission: Impossible was another great performance of his besides Mr. Spock on Star Trek. And they were both made by the same studio!
Avi Green on May 10, 2009 at 3:28 PM
My only big complaint: Phasers (particularly the ones fired by starships) are supposed to be beams not because it’s kitchy, but because beam weapons are actually more cool than Star Wars style blasters. Even with all it’s 21st Century ILM CG-bang, the coolest effects sequence in “Star Trek” franchise history remains Reliant slicing a gash down Enterprise‘s port flank with a phaser beam.
My only other gripe is that this film was billed as a prequel, not a re-boot. It is, in fact, absolutely a re-boot. It isn’t about how the Spock, Kirk, et al we knew from the TV series and other films met. It’s a story about how they met in an alternate timeline, where absolutely nothing was the same from the moment that ship came out of a wormhole on the day Kirk was born.
Blacklake on May 10, 2009 at 3:30 PM
SouthernGent – Earth wasn’t left defenseless. We see the space station orbiting Earth after they leave the academy. Of course, it disappears when Nero arrives. Maybe they got ahold of some red matter and jumped to a time travel story that made sense.
chicagojedi on May 10, 2009 at 3:32 PM
Hey, did anyone here ever watch Leonard Nimoy when he was a co-star on Mission: Impossible during the 4th and 5th seasons, where he played disguise master/magician Paris? I saw an episode or two with him, and he was pretty good there too. In fact, if you’d like to watch one with him, I found one available on Youtube. Here’s the link:
Click here to watch the beginning, then continue to the other parts in the same user database.
This is the episode called “Hunted”, originally broadcast on November 21, 1970. While Greg Morris is actually the primary focus of this story, Nimoy also does a very good job in serving as a decoy trying to lead the enemy forces away from his fellow spy until the rest of the IMF can rescue them. Good stuff. :) Many people seem to overlook it, but Nimoy’s role on Mission: Impossible was another great performance of his besides Mr. Spock on Star Trek. And they were both made by the same studio!
Avi Green on May 10, 2009 at 3:33 PM
Oh, I did have a couple of other gripes: The casting was great, except for Chekhov. Not even a superficial resemblance there. And come on, enough with contrived ledges for characters to dangle off of. We know they aren’t going to fall to their deaths.
It’s a good movie, though. I put it in 2nd place behind “Wrath of Khan” in the franchise history (though “The Search for Spock” had at least two more memorable effects sequences, not to mention the introduction of the gorgeous Klingon Bird of Prey design).
Blacklake on May 10, 2009 at 3:34 PM
Yeah, but it’s kewl.
Harpoon on May 10, 2009 at 3:35 PM
I hope to see a sequel to the prequel
Kini on May 10, 2009 at 3:38 PM
Am happy to see the new movie strike a responsive chord. I look forward to seeing it.
Roddenberry’s Wagon Train to the Stars concept had the quality of optimism that is a valuable commodity today.
Feedie on May 10, 2009 at 3:39 PM
STAR TREK WAS AWSOME!!
afotia on May 10, 2009 at 3:43 PM
+1
Al in St. Lou on May 10, 2009 at 3:49 PM
I was pleasantly surprised. I place it fourth behind “Wrath of Khan,” “Undiscovered Country,” and “First Contact”.
I understand that the writers didn’t want to be boggled down with established “canon” and that time travel element gave the writers some room to break free from said canon. But I think they took it a little too far in some places.
I also agree that Chekov was poorly cast. I am also leaning against the casting of Sulu. I think that B.D. Wong (of Law & Order: Special Victims Unit) might have been a better Sulu.
eaglescout1998 on May 10, 2009 at 4:02 PM
I was 15 when Star Trek premiered, and I was in love.
Well into the 70s I was still watching the reruns. The only movie that hooked me was Khan. I liked a lot of STNG, and some of DS9. Voyager not so much, and Enterprise was a failure to communicate although there were plenty of strong actors to work with as well as visuals.
So I’ll boldly go to this reinvention because reviews like this give me hope.
Randy
williars on May 10, 2009 at 4:15 PM
I was a huge fan of the original Star Trek when I was a kid and thought the Next Generation was dumb when it first came out, but once I warmed up to it a few years later I became a fan. But Voyager is the best of the three, IMO, especially starting at around the fourth season, I think. When I watch the Next Generation DVD’s now I skip over about half the episodes because they’re boring dramas whereas Voyager has a lot more action and suspense and I only skip a relative few.
But FarScape is my favorite with Firefly and Babylon5 rounding out the top three.
FloatingRock on May 10, 2009 at 4:22 PM
The movie was entertaining enough. I doubt that I will ever buy this on dvd.
The sequel for this should be interesting. Essentially, this is a superhero movie where the writers are able to cheat by having 40% of the running time eaten by origin stories. The next one will require that all 100% of the film support the plot. I suspect that this will be difficult and result in a Nemesis type movie where known characters are dropped into a generic sci-fi action film. Going forward, the franchise is a holodeck with the safeties off. There are no more rules, and Paramount will put people at the helm to make money rather than to remain faithful to a franchise that has been around for more than 40 years.
This movie cannot be canon. Aside from the alternate universe cheat, they did destroy Romulus in the canon universe. How can you have a kneecapped Alpha quadrant power in the future? It’s doubtful that they will have another series in the near future, but at some point, they will reboot the tv franchise.
My only question, in the sequel, what will the Klingons look like?
rw on May 10, 2009 at 4:42 PM
I can’t say much for Star Trek, I was never a big fan of the shows except for the original series and the Borg episodes for Next Generation. DS9 and Voyager bored me after the first couple seasons and I never bothered with Enterprise.
BUT, I do love Sci-Fi and the recent Battlestar Galactica I thought was exceptional. Firefly and to a lesser extent, Stargate SG-1, are also great sci-fi space shows.
Daemonocracy on May 10, 2009 at 4:44 PM
I thought it was badly plotted, confusing, and not terribly exciting. Don’t know enough of the original series to get a lot of the references, so without those, a few snickers and some sexy technology is not enough to sustain a movie. Best part by far was Sylar-Spock. The rest I could take or leave, and preferably leave.
evergreen on May 10, 2009 at 4:46 PM
The last three or four seasons of Voyager have the best, (and most), Borg episodes, IMO.
FloatingRock on May 10, 2009 at 4:53 PM
yeah, but they look totally wicked on the big screen.
vcferlita on May 10, 2009 at 5:02 PM
I thought they did have a few scenes in space where there was no sound. Am I wrong?
I loved the use of the original TV uniforms on the ship.
All the movies had “updated” uniforms that all looked cheesy.
Here they had the same colors and the same fabric-look.
And the guy who died was wearing red!
The “Harold and Kumar” guy was great as Sulu – lots of
potential there.
Yes, the science was crappy. Carolyn Porco was listed in
the credits as science advisor. She’s a solar system space
physicist who probably advised them about how to get the
scenes around Saturn looking correct – like when the
Enterprise rises up out of Titan’s atmosphere.
Question: the acting credits listed a Jennifer Morrison.
I was not able to see who she played. Is this the same
Jennifer from the TV show House MD?
And how cool was it that Winona Ryder played Spock’s mom!?
sultanp on May 10, 2009 at 5:09 PM
“but only the geekiest of the geeks and the nerdiest of the nerds will mind,….”
…………… Hey!
Seven Percent Solution on May 10, 2009 at 5:11 PM
Yes . . . and she played Kirk’s mother in the pre-title sequence.
eaglescout1998 on May 10, 2009 at 5:13 PM
The other thing that bothers me about the “reboot” is it gives them license to recycle everything instead of new story lines. I mean does anyone doubt the next movie will have the Borg in it?
Rocks on May 10, 2009 at 5:37 PM
Ed, you will have fireballs in space any time a container holding atmosphere is pierced by energy fire. They won’t last long, but they will be there. Second, lasers (and phasers) on that scale are not fusing weapons. They are not cutting weapons. The energy transfer is too sudden and too massive. Materials hit with that much focussed energy will shatter, not melt.
SDN on May 10, 2009 at 5:43 PM
While I agree with your overall sentiment, I’m thinking more Khan than the Borg…
ernesto on May 10, 2009 at 5:43 PM
Well, I just got back from seeing it. Fantastic! If you are a fan of the original series you will love it.
conservnut on May 10, 2009 at 5:45 PM
I loved it. I can’t explain it, I just did. What was a little weird, though, was the kid that played child Spock looked eerily like my youngest son, albeit in Vulcan form. The new Spock also has the same eyes as my son, so the entire movie, I couldn’t help but to think that’s what my kid would look like with pointy ears. Slightly distracting, but funny as well.
I have always hated explosions in space on principle, but I appreciated the time, effort, and money that went into the special effects in this movie – even if they weren’t realistic. I don’t look for realism in Star Trek – where 90% of the other intelligent life forms in the galaxy look just like us, except their heads are a little funky or they’re green or something. : )
Anna on May 10, 2009 at 5:48 PM
The Kirk in this movie grew up under very different circumstances from what TOS and the prior movies tell us, which explains why, although he’s genetically the same man as in the original timeline, he is a very different person due to that upbringing. Starfleet itself would have been a different organization as a result of the encounter that affected him most personally, as evidenced by the fact that it was so noteworthy that Pike wrote a dissertation on it, and it was seen as a real-life analogue to the Kobayashi Maru scenario. It would have been a part of the curriculum, studied much as military academies today might cover Thermopylae, Marathon, Tours, or Gettysburg.
I think it’s even dumber that a species that had warp drive long before humans, and is allegedly way smarter than we are, would have 6 billion members living on their homeworld, and only about 10 thousand offplanet, even including those who were evacuated at the last moment. It is inconceivable that such a species would not have in its vaunted culture some gem of wit analogous to our “Don’t put all your eggs in one basket”, and would have colonies on many other planets. The only argument against it would be the idea that they’d lose social cohesion, and the colonies could eventually become powerful opponents. Arguably, that’s what happened with the Rihansu (if you know what that word means, this won’t be a spoiler, since anyone who does would have seen the film by now), but there was a specific reason why their progenitors separated from the parent culture and deliberately sought a new place to live.
Another thing that strikes me as odd is how the reaction of the acting captain to the loss of the planet. In TOS, we know of a particular incident of the loss of a starship largely crewed by members from there causing him great discomfort. That would be a few hundred individuals. The death of 6 billion at one time should have rendered him unconscious.
But the dumbest of all dumb things is the idea that a single captain of a starship knows “the codes” to a defense system, and that getting him to give up “the codes” would allow one to totally pwn it. That is not how such things are done by people smart enough to build warp drives. Each officer qualified to command a ship would have his own login credentials, which grant him limited privileges to access the system. Those credentials would have been suspended the moment his ship could communicate with Starfleet Command after he was taken into enemy custody.
The Monster on May 10, 2009 at 5:49 PM
Listen again to the dialogue. Nero didn’t want “the codes”, he wanted “the frequencies”. That’s all he needs, the frequency on which Earth’s border patrol defenses operate.
Given that he has TNG-era computer technology available vs. early TOS-era tech, presumably he can just /hack/ the suckers, once he knows what frequency to hail them on. Or maybe he just wanted the frequencies so he could spot where they all were, and simply use his superior ship to go around them. Or whatnot.
Chuckg on May 10, 2009 at 5:55 PM
That’s because it was a religion … Hollywood is softening us all up for the One World Religion (and it’s not Christianiy, isslam, Judaism, Buddhism, Sufi, nor Hinduism)
Oh my, what could it be? Obama knows.
ex-Democrat on May 10, 2009 at 6:09 PM
Uhura and Spock?
I thought Spock was only with Mariette Hartley!
Bummer
clnurnberg on May 10, 2009 at 6:24 PM
I just hope they nuke France in the next movie so that Picard will never be born.
joe_doufu on May 10, 2009 at 6:27 PM
I can’t believe I have to point this out with all the tid bits everyone is throwing around, I’ve learned more about Star Trek than I ever cared to know reading this thread. Some real Trekies in this crowd.
The reson behind the HALO (High Altitude Low Opening) jump was because the transporters were being blocked by the other ship. Besides, it was kind of cool visually. And of course the red shirt guy dies, it’s like a law isn’t it? Kirk did have a phaser but he dropped it, as he did with alarming repeatedness throughout the movie. I wonder if the next movie if phasers will have a wrist lease on them just for Kirk. If he keeps up that nonsense we’ll have to start calling him “butter fingers”.
Hog Wild on May 10, 2009 at 6:33 PM
The redshirt guy dies because he stupidly ignores his squad leader’s orders on exactly when he’s supposed to open his damn chute, but instead waits until what /he/ thinks is the proper moment, which is a couple seconds too late. Its a difference from original Trek where redshirts die because the universe hates them: in this case, its clear the guy killed himself via his own incompetence.
Chuckg on May 10, 2009 at 6:45 PM
Did you see the same movie I did?
I was actually impressed with the way they handled the silence of space.
The sound of any explosions were those when you were inside — that was quite noticeable when the lady was sucked outside and it went silent — far better then any other film to date.
When they were space diving — noisy, then silence, except for breathing, then atmosphere noise.
There was another example but I can’t recall it now.
The film took a lack of sound then coupled it with the internal sound of shock waves hitting the ships/people quite nicely. (Although I think some of the torpedo’s did make outside noises — but it’s part of the movie experience.)
David
PS — I liked Voyager far better then DS-9. Less preachy, had a captain that wasn’t trying to be a female (black) Kirk (including odd pauses mid sentence — Cisco you know I mean you — my God was he bad).
Plus it had the renegade alone feeling of the originals. New territory, new aliens, more rugged individualism rather then the collectivist drivel TNG veered toward at the end.
DKK
LifeTrek on May 10, 2009 at 7:15 PM
Great Film!
I was a huge fan of the original cast on the big screen…liked the original series but never really invested too deeply in it.
Loved the TNG series but was let down by the films from TNG.
Frnakly i was 100% sure that the actors were too young, that they couldn’t pull off the right chemistry that they would screw it up and was honestly hoping this would fail big time because Star Trek was synonymous with un-cool lately.
SO i decided meh screw it lets go see how bad it really is.
Ok there are a couple of forced lines in the film as homage to the original characters that didn’t go over perfectly, but asside from that. Its a fantastic film.
They reboot the franchise and give you an alternative timeline to work off of that allows the original stories to be what they are and not have to be touched and redone. Excellent move.
All the young actors did fantastic.
Not one complaint.
Except i miss the enterprise theme…but then that theme is so wedded in my mind to the original cast, it was probably a smart decision.
Really fantastic film for the franchise.
They made Star Trek Cool again.
Its going to be fun watching this new interpretation of the original crew and their adventures over the next years. I wish them well. They did the original crew and series proud.
If you life Trek, go see this.
If you never really liked it, go see it too.
BillaryMcBush on May 10, 2009 at 7:21 PM
btw was that OJ Simpson between Uhura and Kirk at the bar scene when they were chatting?
Also Uhura was great…FInally the character got a little more substantive screen time.
BillaryMcBush on May 10, 2009 at 7:23 PM
I didn’t really buy Quinto’s Spock.
Little things added up and yes, he hadn’t taken the complete rational path as of yet — but Vulcans don’t really kiss — they do that finger thingy — and I can’t see that changing because of a change in time. (Of course it’s part of the movie experience so it worked.)
He started good as a kid with his logic and emotions but it didn’t track well later.
I was also disturbed that there will really be a serious shortage of Vulcans in Star Fleet’s immediate future as well! (Not to mention the episodes with Spock’s iconic Mother).
David
It’s hard to comment without giving away too much, sorry.
LifeTrek on May 10, 2009 at 7:24 PM
“fireballs don’t exist in space either”
They will if you have an oxidizer that mixes with a fuel. For example, a propellant tank and oxidizer tank rupture (impulse engines) and the contents mix, there will be a fireball even in space.
crosspatch on May 10, 2009 at 7:29 PM
Basically, the only guy on the squad who could even theoretically have been trained for a mission like that turns out to be a beneficiary of Starfleet’s “Hire the Handicapped” program.
The redshirt suicide thing wasn’t just an homage – it was morbid joke. And the whole “only four people on a ship of hundreds ever do ANYTHING” meme, again taken to its psychotic extreme.
JJ Abrams plainly said he always hated Star Trek and wanted to completely trash it. But I never suspected he’d throw in a time travel idiot plot just so he could have an excuse to destroy the Planet Vulcan.
Oh, and quick show of hands here: Who thinks there’s any chance in Hell that the next movie won’t be a lame passion play about all the Vulcan refugees? If so, congratulations, you’re eligible to be an extra!
logis on May 10, 2009 at 7:42 PM
I loved it. Simply loved it.
NNtrancer on May 10, 2009 at 7:43 PM
I was absolutely floored. Loved it. And I was very skeptical beforehand.
Some minor gripes:
I agree about the sound in space thing. That bugged me a bit while watching. I understand in the older ones that it’s to keep it interesting, but this one had incredible visual FX going for it and cinematic orchestral music to cover up to sound effects. They were unnecessary, in essence.
I didn’t really like the new Spock. He looked the part for sure, but something about him didn’t seem right. I think it was mainly his voice.
The flying motorcycle (and general vibe of the police officer) and the scene building up to Kirk meeting Future Spock just seemed too hokey. It’s part of the film’s charm that’s a tad campy, but those two scenes overdid it I think.
The lens flare was weird.
The makeout scene wasn’t necessary at all.
This isn’t necessarily a gripe, but I’m not sure if them knowing the Romulans was true to canon. If their first contact with the Romulans was after the divergence I’m fine with it, but if not then it gets under my skin. I’d have to watch again to see.
But again, I absolutely loved it! Completely exceeded my expectations! I think my two favorite aspects of it are 1) the Nimoy appearance and 2) Kirk’s character, who NAILED the part without hamming it up like Shatner, a feat I would have deemed impossible.
I’m still awestruck. I’d like to see more of Abrams in the future. No pun intended.
OneGyT on May 10, 2009 at 7:53 PM
Loved the TNG series but was let down by the films from TNG.I literally grew up watching TNG, having been the age of seven when it premiered. While I wasn’t let down the the TNG films, I can say that “Nemesis” was by far the worst Star Trek film of the entire franchise. It was a bad story made worse by bad direction. I would have preferred they had waited until Jonathan Franks was available to direct.
eaglescout1998 on May 10, 2009 at 7:54 PM
Oops! I clicked “strike” instead of “quote”.
eaglescout1998 on May 10, 2009 at 7:55 PM
I love your spoiler text. Smart way to go, Ed.
iamse7en on May 10, 2009 at 8:05 PM
Actually the motorcycle cop reminds me of the Mass Effect video game. The cop’s mask look like the villian Saren. Add lens flares , which also hampered the video game and viola.
chicagojedi on May 10, 2009 at 8:09 PM
Each preceding generation is so stupid that it needs, in real time, the next generation to clean up things after them. And once that cleanup becomes real time, what’s to stop it from being real time over and over? TNG you are only as good as TNNG makes you, and TNNG, look over your shoulders, and see…Wise Tribbbbbles.
unclesmrgol on May 10, 2009 at 8:21 PM
Mi*****e O’***a
sven10077 on May 10, 2009 at 8:31 PM
Last year I watched DS9 and Voyager by each episode, unlike previous years of watching them in a scrambled order.
Voyager by FAR was more of a “soap opera” than DS9, since they were all on a small ship and had to deal with each other every waking hour.
and yes, “By the Pale Moonlight” and “The Siege of AR-558″ were some of the finest episodes of Deep Space 9.
V-rod on May 10, 2009 at 8:45 PM
I really liked it. I knew absolutely nothing about Star Trek. I am a big Abrams fan though. For people that think it should have made a social or political statement you aren’t aware of who Abrams is as a story teller. He never makes it political. He loves character development, relationships, and action(with some monsters thrown it too).
sammypants on May 10, 2009 at 8:46 PM
Saw it today and loved it. Yes there were a group of irregularities that the hard core Trekkies will hate, but it is FUN. The best part was the fun of meeting these characters as new people who have not yet been frozen in stone. There were a lot of great classic lines of dialog, but they were organic to the scenes and natural. When Bones says “Dammit, I’m a doctor…,” it wasn’t done as a laugh line. It worked. And I loved when they sent out the red shirt. You knew what was going to happen; you just didn’t know how.
The biggest problem: I wish I could go from being a cadet to running the big show. The ages and ranks were pretty much ignored so that you could get the A team together. But that is tolerable for such a great ride.
Spike72AFA on May 10, 2009 at 9:01 PM
Saw it opening night and thought it was fantastic. I love the original series, and the return to those characters is a welcome breath of fresh air. I was so-so on Next Generation, couldn’t take DS9 seriously once I started watching B5, Voyager became laughable when they found Amelia Earhart (the last episode I watched), and by the time Enterprise finally got good, it was too late.
This reboot was sorely needed, and I thought it was phenomenal.
crazy_legs on May 10, 2009 at 9:19 PM
So what’s next Star Trek: The Rise of Khan?
Come to think of it, that might be pretty cool.
Mike Honcho on May 10, 2009 at 9:28 PM
Just got off the phone with my Mother, Mother’s day and all ya know. Strong Christian beliefs she holds (not that you could tell by me, but she tried), and she enjoyed the movie a lot. I saw earlier that some were concerned about it being too much sex or what not. Just tossing that out there. Take it or leave it.
Hog Wild on May 10, 2009 at 9:29 PM
Hey Hog Wild, your Mom’s still praying for you. It ain’t over, Bro. Jesus loves you and “The effectual fervent prayer of a righteous [mother] availeth much.” :)
Christian Conservative on May 10, 2009 at 9:48 PM
I saw the movie today and it rocks with extreme mega-force!
The producers managed to pull off what I thought was the impossible by resurrecting the original crew, but this time with a couple of very clever twists that I will not reveal, except to say that they create one of the freshest and entertaining plots I have seen in a film in quite some time.
Every role in this film is played impeccably well, right down to the villain, who while being a very nasty guy indeed, under the circumstances that got him to where he is in the film, there is a level of sympathy and even pity for him, as well as the fact that based on what he does in this movie, you can’t wait to see him eventually get wasted.
Every other role in this film is fresh yet very familiar, and like I said, there are twists all over the place, but they end up making the film unpredictable, exciting, as well as a heck of a lot of fun.
Star Trek is a great way to usher in the start of the Summer 2009 movie season, and there is no doubt that Star Trek is going to be the biggest movie of the summer, if not the biggest of the year.
pilamaye on May 10, 2009 at 10:15 PM
I’ve always been a fan; my wife never one. Just got back from the show and she loved it for the simple reason that it started – literally – from the beginning and allowed her to come up to speed on the characters. She was fascinated by how they got their nicknames (Scotty, Bones) and what caused the affection and interplay between them.
One surprise was that during the final credits I saw Winona Ryder’s name. Completely missed her.
kurtzz3 on May 10, 2009 at 10:41 PM
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