Video: Howard Dean’s paean to the regulatory state
posted at 1:36 pm on May 8, 2009 by Ed Morrissey
This has gotten some traction in the Headlines, so let’s put the video up here, courtesy of Greg Hengler at Town Hall. Howard Dean tangles with Jason Lewis over the role of government in the economy and the financial crisis, and concludes that he’s had enough of capitalism, thank you very much:
It’s absurd, but it’s also a straw man. One can point to a number of factors in the economic collapse, but Dean ignores the root cause of the failures in the financial markets. Bad regulatory decisions went both ways. For increased regulation, we imposed mark-to-market rules that forces financial institutions to show massive losses when the crisis first appeared, even though they hadn’t actually sold anything or taken an actual loss, amplifying the panic.
Deregulation also played a role. Removing the uptick rule also made the crisis exponentially worse as short-sellers raided teetering institutions. Coming closer to the heart of the crisis, an explosion of derivatives and insurance policies surrounding mortgage-backed securities (MBSs) also amplified the effects of their rapid devaluation. The lack of proper oversight on these markets at least allowed them to spread in ultimately irrational ways.
However, it was the mortgage-backed securities and their failure that sit at the heart of the crisis, and those came directly from government regulation and intentional distortion of the markets. They sprang from Congressional demand to spread lending to borrowers who normally wouldn’t have qualified for mortgages, with Congress explicitly mandating Fannie/Freddie purchases of these subprime loans, setting in motion an irrational bubble in the housing and construction markets. Congress had the GSEs generate the MBSs to spread the risk of these subprime loans. If not for those actions, the bubble would never have occurred, and neither would the derivatives and regulatory failures.
We have never had pure capitalism in this country, at least not in the last century. We have always regulated markets to some extent. The problem in this case is neither the capitalism or the regulation, but the deliberate government distortion of both to further political goals. That’s what we need to eliminate in the future, not capitalism or regulation as a whole, nor the establishment of either to the eradication of the other.









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Somewhere out there, Daddy Warbucks dabs at a tear running down his cheek
DrAllecon on May 8, 2009 at 1:39 PM
i think it CANNOT be overstated that the titular head of a particular “American” political party explictly expressed interest in CURBING capitalism …
/paging m. steele, please don’t boot this opportunity …
Buckaroo on May 8, 2009 at 1:39 PM
You know the media is in a sad state of affairs when CNBC, the business and investors channel, deliberately slants their coverage to favor the President.
BadgerHawk on May 8, 2009 at 1:39 PM
Dean isn’t the first idiot with “Dr.” in front of his name.
GarandFan on May 8, 2009 at 1:41 PM
BadgerHawk, it really is a sad state of affairs when the stock marker rallies on a 8.9% unemployment rate, and 539,000 job loss.I feel like I’m in a parallel universe!
sandee on May 8, 2009 at 1:42 PM
Lib-speak… Regulation = Socialism
Got that? Remember that and pay attention. The term will apply perfectly every time any liberal dem utters the word “regulation.”
Zetterson on May 8, 2009 at 1:43 PM
sorry, stock market, not marker.
sandee on May 8, 2009 at 1:43 PM
To borrow a line from Ghostbusters:
“Just what are you a doctor of?”
Howard Dean clearly is not a student of economics.
UltimateBob on May 8, 2009 at 1:43 PM
These people are Communists. They want the destruction of our country. They want the People to be broken. They want the People to bow to the State – which means bowing to them.
OhEssYouCowboys on May 8, 2009 at 1:44 PM
Sponge bob square pants admires you for your squishiness.
lorien1973 on May 8, 2009 at 1:46 PM
Not since before the last world war has this nation gone this far off track.
Speakup on May 8, 2009 at 1:49 PM
Ya know,its got to be maddening,when the idiot Liberals,
think it was 8 years of President Bush,or as the liar,
the most ethical women on the planet,Nancy Pelosi said,
when she strutted to the well,that it was “8 years of
failed Bush policies”)[her words,not mine]!
And,that seems to be the main talk’n point that the
Liberals keep parroting,”8 years of Bush” is their
answer for everything!!!!!!!
canopfor on May 8, 2009 at 1:50 PM
The United Socialist Communist States of Obama!
Duh Mr. Dean. Even China realized, they needed to implement capitalism, in order to survive. L/seven Looooooser.
capejasmine on May 8, 2009 at 1:50 PM
wow someone here admitted that. bravo.
Yep. The “regulation v. capitalism” is a false choice. One does not subtract regulation by adding capitalism. Dean uses the term regulation when he really means welfare state. its not about monitoring business practices, its about seeing that those practices produce ample wealth to disperse to the entire population.
were democrats about actual regulation, and not said dispersion, maybe i’d vote for one again. but they aren’t. so i wont.
ernesto on May 8, 2009 at 1:53 PM
I don’t recognize my planet anymore….
ladyingray on May 8, 2009 at 1:55 PM
For a lot of people, including myself, it’s a question of timing. Most of the smart, large sum investors aren’t playing buy and hold right now. They’re making as much money as they can trading and trying to figure out when to shift out. I don’t believe you’ll see a long term rally any time soon.
Every day the market goes up I scale out a little bit.
BadgerHawk on May 8, 2009 at 1:55 PM
The uptick rule is moronic, unfair, and leads to inefficiencies in the markets. Please stop championing this mechanism, as it does nothing more than force an unnatural upward bias on markets.
Now, if you wanted to talk about naked shorts, that’s a different story …
progressoverpeace on May 8, 2009 at 2:04 PM
The play-by-play from tomorrow:
Steele fields the long punt by Dean at his own 38 yard line, jukes
leftright….spins around another tackler…streaks up the right side….he’s at the 50, the 45….the 30 FUMBLE!BobMbx on May 8, 2009 at 2:05 PM
The main problem comes from the way that Fanny and Freddy upped the systematic risk by undercutting everyone else in risk aversion.
Count to 10 on May 8, 2009 at 2:06 PM
LOL … sadly.
progressoverpeace on May 8, 2009 at 2:07 PM
This just makes me want to scream!
jgapinoy on May 8, 2009 at 2:13 PM
Seriously. WTF is wrong with the GOP. They are making it easy – every single day – and the GOP sits there with its thumb up its ass.
lorien1973 on May 8, 2009 at 2:14 PM
This clown is now a regular “contributor” for CNBC. A couple of weeks ago he was going on and on about nationalized health care and how much more efficient medicare is in comparison to the private sector. That was pretty stupid, but then he was pressed for some specific areas he would like to see change. At the top of his list, he wanted to do away with heart catheterizations and bypass surgeries, because they were expensive and not that successful in his opinion.
Well, being a guy plagued with heart disease, that one got my attention. The heart cath is still the gold standard for determining the severity of atherosclerosis and bypass prolongs lives. WTF is the guy talking about? Is he suggesting that all of us heart patients just roll over and croak?
joedoe on May 8, 2009 at 2:19 PM
There’s about 200 countries where HowDea would be happier. Who wants to start a fund to give him a one-way ticket?
steveegg on May 8, 2009 at 2:22 PM
Maybe the GOP is just playing it cool. When your opponent is about to commit Hari Kiri, don’t alert him to the position of his knife.
LibTired on May 8, 2009 at 2:22 PM
What’s insane about the uptick rule… is “bear raiding” was a major culprit in the 1929 stock market crash, which led to the uptick or +1 system, whereas a stock’s price had to next trade flat or + in order to be shorted or sold.
Of course, Joe Kennedy Sr. perfected this bear raiding, making hundreds of millions and then… became the first SEC Chairman, being he “knew all the rules, even how to break them”
History does repeat itself, in so, so many ways.
Odie1941 on May 8, 2009 at 2:33 PM
How about some love for John Stossel, who has a tv special airing tonight?
JohnJ on May 8, 2009 at 2:34 PM
You can only short if someone is willing to lend you stock (barring the naked shorts, as I mentioned in my post). If stockholders refused to lend out their shares, then no one could short. But if you lend me a share of stock and then I have special case where I am not allowed to sell that as normal, that’s not right.
I would also add that the uptick rule affects a lot more than just the stock being traded. Options traders need to do stock trades to hedge their option trades (they don’t “have” to, but for the sake of risk minimalization, they do), so an option trader who is carrying a net short position, because of his portfolio, is at a serious disadvantage to selling puts or buying calls.
The perversion of the market with the uptick rule cascades outwards. If people don’t want anyone shorting their stocks, then tell the brokerages that their shares are not available for borrowing.
progressoverpeace on May 8, 2009 at 2:47 PM
That should have been: “net short stock position”
progressoverpeace on May 8, 2009 at 2:49 PM
Let Dean ramble on. The more he talks the more he takes on a physical resemblance to a rather large and unclean sphincter.
Spiritk9 on May 8, 2009 at 2:52 PM
Give it back to the yeehaw man who would not be chosen. I think we’ve had quite enough of Howard Dean. It’s time to get some Blue Dogs on the air.
maverick muse on May 8, 2009 at 2:56 PM
JohnJ on May 8, 2009 at 2:34 PM
Thanks for the word. I like Stossel.
maverick muse on May 8, 2009 at 2:57 PM
+1
bluelightbrigade on May 8, 2009 at 3:00 PM
To round out the “uptick rule” picture, what the options case means is that “bear raiders” just move from the stock to the options when they want to drive down the stock price and aren’t able to short the stock. They go and sell calls and buy puts and transfer the risk to the options traders, who generate net short stock positions and are unable to mitigate their risk. If the stock is actually falling, this raises the prices of the downside options and, thus, raises the cost for dowside insurance to all investors which transfers more risk onto them. In other words, in a truly falling market, the uptick rule makes it worse by forcing extra risk onto the innocent bystanders.
progressoverpeace on May 8, 2009 at 3:01 PM
Actually, it was the Republicans, led by John McCain, who wanted to regulate risky loans by Fannie and Freddie to insolvent borrowers in 2005, but the Senate Democrats filibustered. If the Republicans had prevailed then, none of this would have happened, and President McCain would be riding a healthy economy, with Vice President Palin opening up leases for offshore drilling.
I normally don’t like government meddling in the economy, but after this, I believe that Adjustable-Rate Mortgages should be permanently banned. There’s too much risk of starry-eyed borrowers being tempted to buy more house than they can really afford, then losing everything a few years later.
With a fixed-rate mortgage, the first year is the worst, and it gets easier after that, due to inflation and people’s incomes normally rising with work experience.
Steve Z on May 8, 2009 at 3:05 PM
A firestorm that was ignited by the dramatic more then doubling of energy prices. Again, as a result of Congress and government policies.
Clearly to Howard Dean the solution is the ‘isms, who’s outcome was described in cartoon form more then 50 years ago!
David
David
LifeTrek on May 8, 2009 at 5:24 PM
When is that giant vein in Dean’s neck going to blow so that we no longer have to listen to him?
madmonkphotog on May 8, 2009 at 8:56 PM