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		<title>By: The Writing On The Wal &#187; Blog Archive &#187; LIVING ON PLANET PALIN&#8230;</title>
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		<dc:creator>The Writing On The Wal &#187; Blog Archive &#187; LIVING ON PLANET PALIN&#8230;</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 10 May 2009 22:23:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Morrissey writes: The union battle continues against their Great White Whale, Wal-Mart. Last week, affiliates of the group Jobs with Justice began sending missives to Wal-Mart stores in several states, including Maine, where the flyers below originated. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Morrissey writes: The union battle continues against their Great White Whale, Wal-Mart. Last week, affiliates of the group Jobs with Justice began sending missives to Wal-Mart stores in several states, including Maine, where the flyers below originated. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Dr. ZhivBlago</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dr. ZhivBlago</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 10 May 2009 06:24:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Remember Sam Walton&#039;s &#039;Buy American&#039; scam?  I don&#039;t side with them.  I don&#039;t think being responsible for putting tens of thousands of Americans out of jobs by forcing American companies to compete with overseas Maoist gangsters and their Proletariat labor armies is at all laudable...nor worth saving a few bucks.

Also, I find it sad that our largest retailer has long been a five and dime.  A pathetic statement concerning our lack of prosperity and the ever-increasing chinsiness of our once great nation.

As a union member, though, I do believe that workers have a right to vote secretly and they should not be harassed if they do not want a union.  Of course, they should also have the right not to join if there is one.  The sticky thing is that nonmembers can enjoy the fruits of contract negotiations anyway...but they can also lose their jobs just like the members if the union bosses get greedy and strike themselves out of jobs.  So, I guess it evens out.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Remember Sam Walton&#8217;s &#8216;Buy American&#8217; scam?  I don&#8217;t side with them.  I don&#8217;t think being responsible for putting tens of thousands of Americans out of jobs by forcing American companies to compete with overseas Maoist gangsters and their Proletariat labor armies is at all laudable&#8230;nor worth saving a few bucks.</p>
<p>Also, I find it sad that our largest retailer has long been a five and dime.  A pathetic statement concerning our lack of prosperity and the ever-increasing chinsiness of our once great nation.</p>
<p>As a union member, though, I do believe that workers have a right to vote secretly and they should not be harassed if they do not want a union.  Of course, they should also have the right not to join if there is one.  The sticky thing is that nonmembers can enjoy the fruits of contract negotiations anyway&#8230;but they can also lose their jobs just like the members if the union bosses get greedy and strike themselves out of jobs.  So, I guess it evens out.</p>
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		<title>By: darktood</title>
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		<dc:creator>darktood</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 09 May 2009 17:53:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Lie cheat and steal, it&#039;s the union way.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Lie cheat and steal, it&#8217;s the union way.</p>
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		<title>By: Theophile</title>
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		<dc:creator>Theophile</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 09 May 2009 17:13:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I worked for Cingular Wireless five years ago for about a year and a half. They were unionized. The unions lied to us every step of the way. Flat out lied. I never joined and I would never join a union. They&#039;re as corrupt as they can be.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I worked for Cingular Wireless five years ago for about a year and a half. They were unionized. The unions lied to us every step of the way. Flat out lied. I never joined and I would never join a union. They&#8217;re as corrupt as they can be.</p>
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		<title>By: petefrt</title>
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		<dc:creator>petefrt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 09 May 2009 11:14:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A Wal-Mart store unionizes? Then close it. Build two more somewhere else.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A Wal-Mart store unionizes? Then close it. Build two more somewhere else.</p>
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		<title>By: willamettevalley</title>
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		<dc:creator>willamettevalley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 09 May 2009 06:51:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>How is a voluntary arrangement between employer and employee a dictatorship?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>How is a voluntary arrangement between employer and employee a dictatorship?</p>
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		<title>By: faol</title>
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		<dc:creator>faol</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 09 May 2009 03:09:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>1st year of college working at Memco in the DC area. Under some pressure I joined local 400 retail union. One Friday night my manger was gone and this little weasel asst manager was in charge. He knocked over a display and told me to clean it up. My response was negative. He grabbed my arm in in an effort to change my mind. When they revived him he had me fired. I contacted my UNION for help. The local rep took me aside and said &quot;sorry son it&#039;s  a clear case of he said,he said and he is the asst manager. I was a dumb kid and figured I&#039;d just go work somewhere else. Found out a month later my union rep was weasels Dad. Went up the chain of command and was told to forget it or the consequences would be devastating to my future. For my money F**k unions. Just a big good old boy network.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>1st year of college working at Memco in the DC area. Under some pressure I joined local 400 retail union. One Friday night my manger was gone and this little weasel asst manager was in charge. He knocked over a display and told me to clean it up. My response was negative. He grabbed my arm in in an effort to change my mind. When they revived him he had me fired. I contacted my UNION for help. The local rep took me aside and said &#8220;sorry son it&#8217;s  a clear case of he said,he said and he is the asst manager. I was a dumb kid and figured I&#8217;d just go work somewhere else. Found out a month later my union rep was weasels Dad. Went up the chain of command and was told to forget it or the consequences would be devastating to my future. For my money F**k unions. Just a big good old boy network.</p>
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		<title>By: landshark</title>
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		<dc:creator>landshark</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 May 2009 23:46:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;Anyone want to bet that the missing phrase goes something like this:

“… the bill because it …”

A totally despicable tactic, but one that unions and liberals are quite used to.

MarkTheGreat on May 8, 2009 at 5:44 PM&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Good question, so I looked it up. First of all, the morons failed to get the date of the quote right - it was January 9. Second, MarkTheGreat&#039;s instincts were bang-on. &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.nytimes.com/2009/01/09/us/09labor.html?_r=1&amp;scp=16&amp;sq=david%20tovar&amp;st=cse&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Here&#039;s the full quote&lt;/a&gt; (emphasis mine);

“We are against &lt;strong&gt;any bill that would&lt;/strong&gt; effectively eliminate freedom of choice and the right to a secret ballot election,” said a Wal-Mart spokesman, David Tovar. “We believe every associate” — Wal-Mart’s term for employees — “should have the right to make a private and informed decision regarding union representation.”</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Anyone want to bet that the missing phrase goes something like this:</p>
<p>“… the bill because it …”</p>
<p>A totally despicable tactic, but one that unions and liberals are quite used to.</p>
<p>MarkTheGreat on May 8, 2009 at 5:44 PM</p></blockquote>
<p>Good question, so I looked it up. First of all, the morons failed to get the date of the quote right &#8211; it was January 9. Second, MarkTheGreat&#8217;s instincts were bang-on. <a href="http://www.nytimes.com/2009/01/09/us/09labor.html?_r=1&amp;scp=16&amp;sq=david%20tovar&amp;st=cse" rel="nofollow">Here&#8217;s the full quote</a> (emphasis mine);</p>
<p>“We are against <strong>any bill that would</strong> effectively eliminate freedom of choice and the right to a secret ballot election,” said a Wal-Mart spokesman, David Tovar. “We believe every associate” — Wal-Mart’s term for employees — “should have the right to make a private and informed decision regarding union representation.”</p>
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		<title>By: Jeff</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jeff</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 May 2009 23:34:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>MightyMonarch, there are no Walmarts of any kind within the NYC limits. They had plans to put one up and the bought-off by the union politicians put up all kinds of road blocks so for now there are still none. Same thing went on in Chicago. You see these left wing pols care about their constituents, so much so that they bar a place where they could shop and save money is barred from opening.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>MightyMonarch, there are no Walmarts of any kind within the NYC limits. They had plans to put one up and the bought-off by the union politicians put up all kinds of road blocks so for now there are still none. Same thing went on in Chicago. You see these left wing pols care about their constituents, so much so that they bar a place where they could shop and save money is barred from opening.</p>
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		<title>By: TheMightyMonarch</title>
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		<dc:creator>TheMightyMonarch</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 May 2009 23:27:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;Jeff on May 8, 2009 at 7:22 PM&lt;/blockquote&gt;

I&#039;m in California, there&#039;s a few Wal-Mart supercenters and Target Greatlands popping up but they are obviously running into big resistance from the supermarket unions.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Jeff on May 8, 2009 at 7:22 PM</p></blockquote>
<p>I&#8217;m in California, there&#8217;s a few Wal-Mart supercenters and Target Greatlands popping up but they are obviously running into big resistance from the supermarket unions.</p>
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		<title>By: Jeff</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jeff</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 May 2009 23:22:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>MightyMonarch, where&#039;s out here, Long Island? There are no Supercenters close to the NYC metro area because of the meatcutters and grocery unions, too much hassle.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>MightyMonarch, where&#8217;s out here, Long Island? There are no Supercenters close to the NYC metro area because of the meatcutters and grocery unions, too much hassle.</p>
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		<title>By: Buy Danish</title>
		<link>http://hotair.com/archives/2009/05/08/union-wal-mart-ballot-uses-secret-vote/comment-page-1/#comment-2189052</link>
		<dc:creator>Buy Danish</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 May 2009 23:22:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sorry - link to Ehrenreich&#039;s L.A. Times piece &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.latimes.com/news/opinion/commentary/la-oe-ehrenreich3-2009may03,0,4064609.story&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;here&lt;/a&gt;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sorry &#8211; link to Ehrenreich&#8217;s L.A. Times piece <a href="http://www.latimes.com/news/opinion/commentary/la-oe-ehrenreich3-2009may03,0,4064609.story" rel="nofollow">here</a>.</p>
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		<title>By: Buy Danish</title>
		<link>http://hotair.com/archives/2009/05/08/union-wal-mart-ballot-uses-secret-vote/comment-page-1/#comment-2189047</link>
		<dc:creator>Buy Danish</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 May 2009 23:21:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.foodandmedicine.org/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Food and Medicine&lt;/a&gt; is supported by Socialist Barbara Ehrenreich, who is the mother of Leftist radical &amp; newly minted Pentagon employee Rosa Brooks, who in turn used to work for Soros. 

Ehrenreich wrote a recent piece for the L.A. Times, extolling the virtues of groups like &lt;em&gt;Food AND Medicine&lt;/em&gt;. This paragraph was particularly amusing:

&lt;em&gt;Is it any wonder there&#039;s no time left over for lobbying for universal health insurance or reading Marxist tracts on the &quot;reserve army of the unemployed&quot;? It&#039;s all a person can do to keep up with the relentless pressures of an imaginary job.&lt;/em&gt;

Lest you think she was joking, Discover the Networks informs us:

&lt;em&gt;Candid about her affinity for Marxism, Ehrenreich is the Honorary Chairwoman of the Democratic Socialists of America. When the Communist Manifesto was re-released on its 150th anniversary in 1998, Ehrenreich celebrated the event. She noted that in producing the Manifesto as a commercial product, capitalists were -- as Lenin had once predicted -- providing the rope that eventually would hang them.&lt;/em&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://www.foodandmedicine.org/" rel="nofollow">Food and Medicine</a> is supported by Socialist Barbara Ehrenreich, who is the mother of Leftist radical &amp; newly minted Pentagon employee Rosa Brooks, who in turn used to work for Soros. </p>
<p>Ehrenreich wrote a recent piece for the L.A. Times, extolling the virtues of groups like <em>Food AND Medicine</em>. This paragraph was particularly amusing:</p>
<p><em>Is it any wonder there&#8217;s no time left over for lobbying for universal health insurance or reading Marxist tracts on the &#8220;reserve army of the unemployed&#8221;? It&#8217;s all a person can do to keep up with the relentless pressures of an imaginary job.</em></p>
<p>Lest you think she was joking, Discover the Networks informs us:</p>
<p><em>Candid about her affinity for Marxism, Ehrenreich is the Honorary Chairwoman of the Democratic Socialists of America. When the Communist Manifesto was re-released on its 150th anniversary in 1998, Ehrenreich celebrated the event. She noted that in producing the Manifesto as a commercial product, capitalists were &#8212; as Lenin had once predicted &#8212; providing the rope that eventually would hang them.</em></p>
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		<title>By: CCRWM</title>
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		<dc:creator>CCRWM</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 May 2009 23:21:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Another reason or the main reason why the unions will fight to the end to get more members is money - big money. The Water and Power Co in Los Angeles has 8000 employees. approximately 7200 of those employees are memebers of the IBEW Union. The average dues paid by each of those 7200 employees is $70 dollars a month. That means that the IBEW union takes in $504,000 a month or $6,048,000 a year. I believe the local that represents the employees employs less that 20 people. That money gets spread around to all the Democratic politicians in Los Angeles. The IBEW union went door to door for Villaraigosa in both Mayoral elections and no City council member dares to go against the IBEW union either. There is a lot of corruption too from what I was told so I asked why no one does anything about it but the management employees who know about it literally fear for their lives if they speak up.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Another reason or the main reason why the unions will fight to the end to get more members is money &#8211; big money. The Water and Power Co in Los Angeles has 8000 employees. approximately 7200 of those employees are memebers of the IBEW Union. The average dues paid by each of those 7200 employees is $70 dollars a month. That means that the IBEW union takes in $504,000 a month or $6,048,000 a year. I believe the local that represents the employees employs less that 20 people. That money gets spread around to all the Democratic politicians in Los Angeles. The IBEW union went door to door for Villaraigosa in both Mayoral elections and no City council member dares to go against the IBEW union either. There is a lot of corruption too from what I was told so I asked why no one does anything about it but the management employees who know about it literally fear for their lives if they speak up.</p>
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		<title>By: SFTech</title>
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		<dc:creator>SFTech</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 May 2009 23:15:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The UNIONS and GOVERNMENT are exactly alike:
***
1. Ineffective
Put $1 in get $0.30 in services.
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2. They destroy EVERY program they touch.
Ford (close to the end), GM (destroyed), Chrysler (done).  If you don&#039;t pay us what we want, we&#039;ll strike.  Every year is a pay raise even when you outprice your market.
Just look at social security (bankrupt), medicare (bankrupt), the DMV (see item 1).
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3. Both survive through politics.
Every union gives money to Democrat only politicians (through PACs and direct).  The unions know when they build a product or place; all normal people want to spend less money for the same product (quality being the same).

That&#039;s why unions force companies to sign PLAs (Project Labor Agreement (agreement to use union labor)) and spend 40% more to buy or build the same item.  Interestingly enough the majority of Government work is just union without the fight.  So when the taxpayers build that bridge, road, building it&#039;s 40% more.  Why, because the unions gave the politicians money for their campaigns.
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4. The unions and politicians care about you in this order:
A. Does it benefit me.  Will I get more union dues or finiacial benefit?  Even if it screws the worker(s).
*Hello SEIU firing workers to outsource.
*Hello union business agents who work on salary but are FORCED to work 80hrs a week.  The same union would file charges against you and the company if you as a worker spent 15 minutes without OT pay.  Can I say HYPOCRITE!!! 
B. Does it benefit the worker (notice 2nd on the list). Will the employer or tax payer suffer, they don&#039;t care.  Then when the business fails it&#039;s the failure of the business not the union--
Ford, GM, Chrysler UNIONS (UAW) are you listening?
*Do you think that a requirement to pay an employee 80% of their salary even though there is no work for them is your part?
*Do you think that having health benefits that are FAR FAR FAR TOO EXPENSIVE for the benefits provided is your part?
C. Does it benefit the business.  Can we protect those companies or comittees that support us (dues and contributions).     
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Written by a 22 year union member who is disgusted with the ineffective, destructive, lies.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The UNIONS and GOVERNMENT are exactly alike:<br />
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1. Ineffective<br />
Put $1 in get $0.30 in services.<br />
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2. They destroy EVERY program they touch.<br />
Ford (close to the end), GM (destroyed), Chrysler (done).  If you don&#8217;t pay us what we want, we&#8217;ll strike.  Every year is a pay raise even when you outprice your market.<br />
Just look at social security (bankrupt), medicare (bankrupt), the DMV (see item 1).<br />
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3. Both survive through politics.<br />
Every union gives money to Democrat only politicians (through PACs and direct).  The unions know when they build a product or place; all normal people want to spend less money for the same product (quality being the same).</p>
<p>That&#8217;s why unions force companies to sign PLAs (Project Labor Agreement (agreement to use union labor)) and spend 40% more to buy or build the same item.  Interestingly enough the majority of Government work is just union without the fight.  So when the taxpayers build that bridge, road, building it&#8217;s 40% more.  Why, because the unions gave the politicians money for their campaigns.<br />
***<br />
4. The unions and politicians care about you in this order:<br />
A. Does it benefit me.  Will I get more union dues or finiacial benefit?  Even if it screws the worker(s).<br />
*Hello SEIU firing workers to outsource.<br />
*Hello union business agents who work on salary but are FORCED to work 80hrs a week.  The same union would file charges against you and the company if you as a worker spent 15 minutes without OT pay.  Can I say HYPOCRITE!!!<br />
B. Does it benefit the worker (notice 2nd on the list). Will the employer or tax payer suffer, they don&#8217;t care.  Then when the business fails it&#8217;s the failure of the business not the union&#8211;<br />
Ford, GM, Chrysler UNIONS (UAW) are you listening?<br />
*Do you think that a requirement to pay an employee 80% of their salary even though there is no work for them is your part?<br />
*Do you think that having health benefits that are FAR FAR FAR TOO EXPENSIVE for the benefits provided is your part?<br />
C. Does it benefit the business.  Can we protect those companies or comittees that support us (dues and contributions).<br />
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Written by a 22 year union member who is disgusted with the ineffective, destructive, lies.</p>
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		<title>By: Joe Comment</title>
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		<dc:creator>Joe Comment</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 May 2009 23:11:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So the crux of their flimsy argument is: since you&#039;re not allowed to vote on everything, you should vote on nothing?

They even said the would be OK with a dictatorship if Walmart would just admit they were one.  Why would a union be OK with a dictatorship?

Where did they learn their debating skills?  Are these adults?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So the crux of their flimsy argument is: since you&#8217;re not allowed to vote on everything, you should vote on nothing?</p>
<p>They even said the would be OK with a dictatorship if Walmart would just admit they were one.  Why would a union be OK with a dictatorship?</p>
<p>Where did they learn their debating skills?  Are these adults?</p>
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		<title>By: Rick007</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rick007</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 May 2009 23:00:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The biggest scabbs I have ever worked around were union workers.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The biggest scabbs I have ever worked around were union workers.</p>
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		<title>By: TheMightyMonarch</title>
		<link>http://hotair.com/archives/2009/05/08/union-wal-mart-ballot-uses-secret-vote/comment-page-1/#comment-2188994</link>
		<dc:creator>TheMightyMonarch</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 May 2009 22:58:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;Walmart customers and workers aren’t stupid. The workers mostly work part time. They know a small pay check taking out union dues will not work.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Same thing happened to supermarket baggers and checkers. The small pay increase they get by being in the union is taken up by the more expensive benefits and union dues. Basically you end up with the same net pay as you would have gotten as nonunion, and higher grocery prices for everyone. Meanwhile the union bosses get nice and rich.

It&#039;s why the supermarket unions out here are trying to demonize Wal-Marts and Targets that are trying to introduce full service groceries. They won&#039;t be able to compete.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Walmart customers and workers aren’t stupid. The workers mostly work part time. They know a small pay check taking out union dues will not work.</p></blockquote>
<p>Same thing happened to supermarket baggers and checkers. The small pay increase they get by being in the union is taken up by the more expensive benefits and union dues. Basically you end up with the same net pay as you would have gotten as nonunion, and higher grocery prices for everyone. Meanwhile the union bosses get nice and rich.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s why the supermarket unions out here are trying to demonize Wal-Marts and Targets that are trying to introduce full service groceries. They won&#8217;t be able to compete.</p>
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		<title>By: SeniorD</title>
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		<dc:creator>SeniorD</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 May 2009 22:51:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Simply ask any Union worker these questions:

1. What is the minimum wage where you work?
2. What is your take home pay?
3. What is the take home pay of the Local&#039;s Business Manager?
4. What is the take home pay of the Union President?
5. See any problems?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Simply ask any Union worker these questions:</p>
<p>1. What is the minimum wage where you work?<br />
2. What is your take home pay?<br />
3. What is the take home pay of the Local&#8217;s Business Manager?<br />
4. What is the take home pay of the Union President?<br />
5. See any problems?</p>
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		<title>By: Onus</title>
		<link>http://hotair.com/archives/2009/05/08/union-wal-mart-ballot-uses-secret-vote/comment-page-1/#comment-2188953</link>
		<dc:creator>Onus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 May 2009 22:37:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Typically, only unionized employees vote at work, and they do so &lt;i&gt;frequently&lt;/i&gt;...&quot;

Wow, they must be super-efficient if they have time to vote so often while on the job...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Typically, only unionized employees vote at work, and they do so <i>frequently</i>&#8230;&#8221;</p>
<p>Wow, they must be super-efficient if they have time to vote so often while on the job&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: JeffWeimer</title>
		<link>http://hotair.com/archives/2009/05/08/union-wal-mart-ballot-uses-secret-vote/comment-page-1/#comment-2188942</link>
		<dc:creator>JeffWeimer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 May 2009 22:33:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;em&gt;MarkTheGreat on May 8, 2009 at 5:44 PM&lt;/em&gt;

Below is the FULL quote from the NYT, it turns out they took out only four words (&lt;em&gt;any bill that would&lt;/em&gt;) that completely changed the meaning for anyone not willing to check. I guess they think people are stupid. Of course, this union is actually probably for card check, so that redacted statement is probably their TRUE position on card-check.

Otherwise, it&#039;s just the same-old ends-justifies-the-means BS these desperate unions use every single time. If they would at least be honest, I might give them the benefit of the doubt.

&lt;blockquote&gt;“We are against any bill that would effectively eliminate freedom of choice and the right to a secret ballot election,” said a Wal-Mart spokesman, David Tovar. “We believe every associate” — Wal-Mart’s term for employees — “should have the right to make a private and informed decision regarding union representation.”&lt;/blockquote&gt;

&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.nytimes.com/2009/01/09/us/09labor.html?_r=1&amp;ref=us&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://www.nytimes.com/2009/01/09/us/09labor.html?_r=1&amp;ref=us&lt;/a&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><em>MarkTheGreat on May 8, 2009 at 5:44 PM</em></p>
<p>Below is the FULL quote from the NYT, it turns out they took out only four words (<em>any bill that would</em>) that completely changed the meaning for anyone not willing to check. I guess they think people are stupid. Of course, this union is actually probably for card check, so that redacted statement is probably their TRUE position on card-check.</p>
<p>Otherwise, it&#8217;s just the same-old ends-justifies-the-means BS these desperate unions use every single time. If they would at least be honest, I might give them the benefit of the doubt.</p>
<blockquote><p>“We are against any bill that would effectively eliminate freedom of choice and the right to a secret ballot election,” said a Wal-Mart spokesman, David Tovar. “We believe every associate” — Wal-Mart’s term for employees — “should have the right to make a private and informed decision regarding union representation.”</p></blockquote>
<p><a href="http://www.nytimes.com/2009/01/09/us/09labor.html?_r=1&amp;ref=us" rel="nofollow">http://www.nytimes.com/2009/01/09/us/09labor.html?_r=1&#038;ref=us</a></p>
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		<title>By: bikermailman</title>
		<link>http://hotair.com/archives/2009/05/08/union-wal-mart-ballot-uses-secret-vote/comment-page-1/#comment-2188858</link>
		<dc:creator>bikermailman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 May 2009 22:08:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>TheTrollhammer on May 8, 2009 at 5:53 PM

Who do you work for?  In the PO, it&#039;s not terribly worse than any other huge company.  I talk to the UPS and FedEx drivers, and they have a lot of the same complaints about crazy stuff that we do.  The biggest problem is when local management tries to do something with the problem carriers, completely within the constraints, Ft Worth almost always overrules them.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>TheTrollhammer on May 8, 2009 at 5:53 PM</p>
<p>Who do you work for?  In the PO, it&#8217;s not terribly worse than any other huge company.  I talk to the UPS and FedEx drivers, and they have a lot of the same complaints about crazy stuff that we do.  The biggest problem is when local management tries to do something with the problem carriers, completely within the constraints, Ft Worth almost always overrules them.</p>
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		<title>By: seven</title>
		<link>http://hotair.com/archives/2009/05/08/union-wal-mart-ballot-uses-secret-vote/comment-page-1/#comment-2188831</link>
		<dc:creator>seven</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 May 2009 22:01:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Walmart customers and workers aren&#039;t stupid.  The workers mostly work part time.  They know a small pay check taking out union dues will not work.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Walmart customers and workers aren&#8217;t stupid.  The workers mostly work part time.  They know a small pay check taking out union dues will not work.</p>
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		<title>By: Seven Percent Solution</title>
		<link>http://hotair.com/archives/2009/05/08/union-wal-mart-ballot-uses-secret-vote/comment-page-1/#comment-2188820</link>
		<dc:creator>Seven Percent Solution</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 May 2009 21:57:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Look what a bang up job the unions have done to the once great State of California..........

&lt;em&gt;............. what could go wrong?&lt;/em&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Look what a bang up job the unions have done to the once great State of California&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;.</p>
<p><em>&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;. what could go wrong?</em></p>
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		<title>By: Ted Torgerson</title>
		<link>http://hotair.com/archives/2009/05/08/union-wal-mart-ballot-uses-secret-vote/comment-page-1/#comment-2188808</link>
		<dc:creator>Ted Torgerson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 May 2009 21:54:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Come on you need this picture on the front page.

&lt;blockquote&gt;http://www.foodandmedicine.org/page25.html&lt;/blockquote&gt; food AND medicine May Day celebration. What the heck are they singing, the Internationale?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Come on you need this picture on the front page.</p>
<blockquote><p><a href="http://www.foodandmedicine.org/page25.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.foodandmedicine.org/page25.html</a></p></blockquote>
<p> food AND medicine May Day celebration. What the heck are they singing, the Internationale?</p>
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