Ted Turner: You know who’s done pretty well with population control? China
posted at 6:26 pm on May 7, 2009 by Allahpundit
Revelatory, not because it catches Turner opining on a subject about which he knows little — I do that for a living — but because, forced to make an assumption about Chinese policy to fill in the gap in his knowledge, he gives them the benefit of the doubt. Is there any aspect of Chinese governance that doesn’t involve “draconian steps” at some point to deal with public noncompliance? Why would this be any different? And of course, it isn’t. Incidentally, if you think China’s population control experiment has been a “success,” take a look at this number. Things are going to get very interesting in Asia, very soon.
I’m almost afraid to ask what sent him off on this line of discussion. Presumably it’s global warming. Aren’t shrinking western birth rates thinning the herd for him quickly enough? Click the image to watch.
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I swear, I will never understand how this man became so successful. He seems to be one of the biggest idiots to ever walk the planet.
Emily M. on May 7, 2009 at 6:28 PM
The work draconian is so, draconian.
rollthedice on May 7, 2009 at 6:28 PM
Killing babies is not a crime to the left!
Gwillie on May 7, 2009 at 6:30 PM
Anyone would be surprised to see how frank some movers and shakers are about how they admire the Chinese “experiment”. Its a more pervasive view than it seems.
ernesto on May 7, 2009 at 6:30 PM
Ted’s as empty headed and souless as his former wife Hanoi Jane Fonda…I’m surprised they divorced since they seem to be made for each other!
Liberty or Death on May 7, 2009 at 6:30 PM
draconian IDIOT! But I guess if I had to climb on top of Jane all those years I would have lost my mind by now too….
SDarchitect on May 7, 2009 at 6:30 PM
Controlling the female population, that is. The male to female ratio is time bomb of its own.
Wethal on May 7, 2009 at 6:31 PM
Apparently Ted and Jane found some interesting flora in Southeast Asia.
The problem is now self-induced mental retardation.
Notice the absence of a snarc tag.
Blacksmith8 on May 7, 2009 at 6:31 PM
Maybe he doesn’t know what “draconian” means?
redshirt on May 7, 2009 at 6:32 PM
Welcome to the thoughts of the CFR, Trilateral Commission, Bilderberg, aka The New World Order.
It really is time to wake up.
The GOP will take you there as well.
True_King on May 7, 2009 at 6:34 PM
Yeah, forced abortions are pretty good at controling population.
Buford on May 7, 2009 at 6:34 PM
Moron. And not in a good (AoSHQ) way.
Y-not on May 7, 2009 at 6:35 PM
Hey Ted, so if i take your children away and take your weath away since you have to much… would you start screaming then?
upinak on May 7, 2009 at 6:36 PM
You know what’s even more bizarre coming from this fool(Biblical term), his movies Gettysburg and Gods and Generals are excellent.
shick on May 7, 2009 at 6:36 PM
Draconian? No way.
Ted has lost his mind.
tru2tx on May 7, 2009 at 6:36 PM
Who actually said he had a mind to lose?
upinak on May 7, 2009 at 6:37 PM
-proof that what man intends for evil God uses for good.
shick on May 7, 2009 at 6:37 PM
Isn’t there a shortage of females for all the billions of males in China because of forced abortions of females? But that isn’t draconian, per Turner, just common sense. Say what? (BTW, it may bite them in the end, or worse, may bite some other innocent country when their males decide to find females.)
Christian Conservative on May 7, 2009 at 6:38 PM
After Mao culled the herd, managing it became just another bureaucratic function. Oh, and Ted, I don’t draconian means what you think it means.
billypaintbrush on May 7, 2009 at 6:38 PM
Stump dumb.
mchristian on May 7, 2009 at 6:39 PM
Meh, I think you clicked on the wrong web address true king, me thinks you meant to go to Alex Jones’ Prison Planet site…
Liberty or Death on May 7, 2009 at 6:39 PM
True_King:
Please tell me you are satirizing the conspirinuts, OK?
Turtler on May 7, 2009 at 6:39 PM
Ted has a point. Hitler and Stalin also did a mighty fine job of population control now that I think about it…
sabbott on May 7, 2009 at 6:39 PM
This man is a clueless, mindless idiot. He owns land in Montana that he never visits, he was married to Hanoi Jane and probably thought he was at the pinnacle of success. Now he has become a doddering old fool, just like Jimmy Carter of whom he is so fond. China? Oh just another tool to use for the brain fart that enters his mind. God, these libs are killing me, my face is bleeding, my thumbs don’t function, I’m losing it!!!!
hip shot on May 7, 2009 at 6:40 PM
Is Joe Biden writing for Ted Turner now?
mchristian on May 7, 2009 at 6:40 PM
Millions of extra males. Massive expenditures on their military. You figger it out.
bikermailman on May 7, 2009 at 6:40 PM
Aww, Ted just get another Jack and Coke and go out to the ranch and watch the sun set…
d1carter on May 7, 2009 at 6:42 PM
Heh, yep. In the famous words of Inigo, “you keep using that word but I don’t think it means what you think it means…”
Liberty or Death on May 7, 2009 at 6:42 PM
Ted, you are as obtuse as you ever were.
Bikermailman, you beat me to it. Isn’t it obvious what China will do with all those “extra” males?
NebCon on May 7, 2009 at 6:42 PM
In reference to my above comment, this information had been out there for some time. My previous thoughts had only been on the demographic time bomb involved. When reading the article from AP’s linky thingy, it mentioned that in some regions, couples, if the first child is a female, they are allowed another to get a boy. Then the implications hit me.
bikermailman on May 7, 2009 at 6:43 PM
The truly sad thing is that he sees this as a GOOD thing, as though it is natural to selectively and barbarically mold the populace into the way you desire, and damn the consequences.
Such thinking reduced millions of people to ashes sixty years past, and will do so again if left unchecked.
Turtler on May 7, 2009 at 6:43 PM
Hey Dork Gable! STFU!
ronsfi on May 7, 2009 at 6:43 PM
Fonda became a Christian. Ted hates Christians.
tgibson1962 on May 7, 2009 at 6:43 PM
What an idiot. It is hard to believe that a man this dense, could have made so much money.
Terrye on May 7, 2009 at 6:44 PM
This man has not been sober a day in his life. Its hard to know if he is insane or just drunk as a monkey. I was at a function in Atlanta when he was there. He was so drunk he couldn’t talk.
volsense on May 7, 2009 at 6:44 PM
NebCon on May 7, 2009 at 6:42 PM
Yeah, and I don’t like it very much. Combine all that with their electronic warfare forays of late, their ability to dump our dollars, our Fearless Leader…
bikermailman on May 7, 2009 at 6:44 PM
Proof we should’ve kept the insane asylums. Some of them are idiot savant enough to gain money and power.
Feedie on May 7, 2009 at 6:46 PM
……… what could go wrong?
Seven Percent Solution on May 7, 2009 at 6:46 PM
What an idiot. It is hard to believe that a man this dense, could have made so much money.
Terrye on May 7, 2009 at 6:44 PM
The America we used to know did not know boundaries of stupidty. In the new Obamerica there will be no new Ted Turners, the weak will be eliminated.
hip shot on May 7, 2009 at 6:47 PM
Better to remain silent and let people wonder if you’re an idiot, than to open your mouth and remove all doubt (or words to that effect).
Dee2008 on May 7, 2009 at 6:47 PM
So if the government were to make abortion illegal, that would be draconian.
If the government forcefully performs an abortion, hey, no problem.
Gotcha, Ted.
VanPalin on May 7, 2009 at 6:48 PM
Guys/gals…the human race is in big trouble. If you haven’t found Jesus, go to Him. I am filled with such horror at much of what makes headlines…and it’s impossible not to read between the lines.
Is everyone still seeing things in bits and pieces? Is it coalescing yet in your minds?
LOOK AT WHERE WE ARE HEADED.
Mommypundit on May 7, 2009 at 6:48 PM
Oh, I didn’t realize that traitor biatch Hanoi Jane has found the Lord, she must be hedging her bets now that she’s getting up in her years!
So now not only is she a traitor biatch she’s a hypocrite too…er…uh…actually now that I think of it she has always been BOTH!
Liberty or Death on May 7, 2009 at 6:48 PM
I have met Ted 2 times. I realize he is brilliant. He can sound ignorant with intentionality. Yes he is liberal and his heart is in the wrong place. He is a risk taker and he made a lot of money.
seven on May 7, 2009 at 6:48 PM
The population bomb crowd should lead by example by not reproducing.
AbaddonsReign on May 7, 2009 at 6:48 PM
Silver lining?
Dee2008 on May 7, 2009 at 6:49 PM
I missed something here. One commie praises other commies. Where’s the story?
oldleprechaun on May 7, 2009 at 6:51 PM
I’m confused – is Allahpundit disagreeing with Ted Turner? I would think that a country that has atheism as the state religion and forced abortions would be right up his alley.
Phildorex on May 7, 2009 at 6:51 PM
If Hanoi Jane had become a Christian for real, she might have given a real apology, not the fake one, only for her self interest (a couple of movie projects, and trying to appease people). She also made clear that she wasn’t apologizing for going over there, just for posing for pictures with POWs.
More info at snopes, would have cut and paste, but they seem to have disabled the function. Near the bottom of the snopes article.
bikermailman on May 7, 2009 at 6:52 PM
The population bomb crowd should lead by example by not reproducing.
AbaddonsReign on May 7, 2009 at 6:48 PM
That is what is occuring. The “Western World” is reproducing at a 1.6 child per family rate. The muslim world at 8 per family. At this rate the mussies take over by 2050, this means all Western nations. The numbers don’t tell lies. Just by sheer numbers we are taken over. Can you say Allah Akbar?
hip shot on May 7, 2009 at 6:52 PM
I’ve been saying for some time now: God, guns, and gold. Get ‘em now, while you still can. In that order.
bikermailman on May 7, 2009 at 6:53 PM
BTW, mommy, love your moniker…
bikermailman on May 7, 2009 at 6:54 PM
Ouch, that link, Allahpundit.
What will the China government do with 32.7 excess young men?
Duh. War.
maverick muse on May 7, 2009 at 6:55 PM
Well, we know there won’t be a gay pride parade!
/sarc
upinak on May 7, 2009 at 6:57 PM
Yeah, I remember her non-apology, she can shove it up her azz for all I care! So she’s only sorry for taking pictures with the POW’s, well what about being sorry for saying the North Vietnamese were “good” and “nice” people just like us after the Pol Pot’s killing fields came to light!
Yeah, real nice and good people that Pol Pot was, after all what’s a few million more dead as long as the US imperialists aren’t killing anymore good and nice people right Hanoi Jane!!
Liberty or Death on May 7, 2009 at 7:00 PM
haha. thanks! I’m such a loud mouth mom.
This is so concerning, though…it’s all becoming so apparent and scary. We aren’t very wealthy so it’s hard to really prepare…i hate this. What can be done?
Mommypundit on May 7, 2009 at 7:01 PM
I am of the firm belief that China’s method of population control is going to be a contributing factor to a World War at some point. You cannot have such a gender imbalance between men and women, without something breaking at some point. All those extra men are going to have to have some outlet for their aggression.
coyoterex on May 7, 2009 at 7:01 PM
Hey Ted, I thought you said global warming was going to turn us all into cannibals soon? Won’t that take care of the “population problem”?
BuckNutty on May 7, 2009 at 7:01 PM
That’s why having LOTS of extra ammunition is so important, they may outnumber us population wise but the most important number is who has the most ammo!
Liberty or Death on May 7, 2009 at 7:03 PM
Heartbreaking depravity. I cannot believe we let these people gain control.
gopmom on May 7, 2009 at 7:03 PM
I can’t stop banging my head on the desk in response to this idiocy. I suppose that, too, could lead to population control. And, being voluntary, it wouldn’t be considered draconian.
Oh please, Scotty, just beam me up now.
Scotsman on May 7, 2009 at 7:04 PM
It’s also interested that he goes cluelessly from “voluntary” family planning to… China. When he gets there, enough reality must have invaded his addled brain to talk about the fact that they do incentivize the one-child policy, but then he throws out that “not draconian” garbage.
What a dolt.
cs89 on May 7, 2009 at 7:04 PM
Start talking with and coordinating with like minded people that understand where we are headed so when the shiite hits the fan you can pool your resources.
I’m already doing that with close friends and family, we’re making plans and stocking up the best we can for when the walls come tumbling down.
Liberty or Death on May 7, 2009 at 7:05 PM
ted i know this will hard for you to do but please keep your mouth shut ,have you always been this stupid?
wade underhile on May 7, 2009 at 7:06 PM
How can such and idiot become a billionaire, i’ll never know.
madne0 on May 7, 2009 at 7:07 PM
The key to understanding this statement lies in the phrase “as far as I can see…”. Ted is suffering from anal-cranial inversion, and can’t see a darn thing.
drunyan8315 on May 7, 2009 at 7:07 PM
For some reason, people who make a lot of money in specific areas think they know about EVERYTHING. Which often goes to prove how really stupid they are about every day common knowledge.
GarandFan on May 7, 2009 at 7:07 PM
It’s just surreal how someone so successful can be such a massive idiot.
CP on May 7, 2009 at 7:10 PM
Mommypundit on May 7, 2009 at 7:01 PM
Well, I cashed in a whole lot of 401k money, and have been investing it in the above (gold in hand, not stock), plus food, barter items, and the like. I just don’t see the economy being able to continue another ten years, much less the 20 or more til I can retire. The way I see it, this is a relocation of investments, and if I’m wrong, then I just work til I keel over in someone’s front yard. :P
Seriously, you’re doing a whole lot for the future by having those babies, and teaching them well. Another recommendation, learn. Learn everything you can about the founding of the country, the law, the philosophy of freedom, train the kids in matters scientific. The truth is, yeah, we can see the pieces falling together, but we’re not there yet. Things are going to get very bad, even before the prophecies begin to happen. Even then, just because the pieces are all together, who says things will happen on day one after that? Society is being dumbed down in so many matters, and having a core of knowledge to rebuild around is going to be important.
Yeah, everyone, I sound like a kook. So sue me! :P
bikermailman on May 7, 2009 at 7:11 PM
Unfortunately we are the ones with our heads in the clouds letting this guy walk around free.
Ted Turner is an elitist that wants to thin population down.
But rules do not apply to him. HE HAS 5 CHILDREN!!!!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eAaQNACwaLw
Constitution1st on May 7, 2009 at 7:12 PM
Hey look! It’s Ted!
bikermailman on May 7, 2009 at 7:16 PM
Ted Turner is successful because his dad left him a company that was well capitalized
karasoth on May 7, 2009 at 7:22 PM
You don’t sound like a kook to me, you gave some sound advice. There is nothing kooky about being prepared, being unprepared is kooky and foolish!
Liberty or Death on May 7, 2009 at 7:22 PM
32.7 M extra males??!!?!
Everyday since about late january there’s been some piece of news that makes my hair stand on end. I need another drink.
juliesa on May 7, 2009 at 7:23 PM
Before even reading the piece, I just want to ask:
Is Ted Turner still able to feed himself?
He has been disconnected from reality for so long, it’s a wonder he remembers how to button his own shirts. Or does he? Hmmmmm?
hillbillyjim on May 7, 2009 at 7:23 PM
Just wait till that whole generation of Chinese men arrive well into their twenties and thirties. Where are they going to find the brides they will surely lack?
To find the answer, look around the peripheral of China. Just like the Sabine women to the early Romans, there are lots of land to conquer… and lots of women to choose from…
I don’t think Turner realizes that Chinese conquest is in the horizon.
newton on May 7, 2009 at 7:25 PM
classic Allah
Captain Planet told him it was the Gaia-ey thing to do.
hillbillyjim on May 7, 2009 at 7:28 PM
Liberty or Death on May 7, 2009 at 7:22 PM
Thanks…It was mostly a pre-emptive comment for the people who will invariably think so, even some on our side. He11, ten years ago, five years ago, I would’ve thought I was a kook for such things. I never bought into the conspiracy stuff, back in the 90s, always kept 100% of my retirement funds in stocks, through all the ups and downs. Oct 07, I was getting a really hinky feeling, and converted every penny into bonds and t-bills. Guess when the peak of the market was? I actually made some money last year! It has been the last few months though, that I’ve been doing the new converstions… :)
bikermailman on May 7, 2009 at 7:30 PM
I am sure this “man” is against water boarding.
Jamson64 on May 7, 2009 at 7:33 PM
Hey Ted, set a good example by reducing the population by one.
Daggett on May 7, 2009 at 7:33 PM
“Ignorance is our most expensive commodity”
Rush Limbaugh
Sometimes he gives glimpses of why he stayed married to Jane for so long.
Speakup on May 7, 2009 at 7:35 PM
Ted Turner…wow. He really just needs to focus on keeping the Braves in contention. Or keep writing checks to Cartoon Network so Adult Swim can continue to produce wonderful programming.
BTW, China’s policy is fantastic…create a nation of guys who aren’t getting laid and have access to nuclear weapons.
It would be like our military having a new policy of drafting only Star Trek fans.
*ducks*
TheMightyMonarch on May 7, 2009 at 7:40 PM
no, you don’t!
The kids are being homeschooled. We do Classical education…heavy on history and christian worldview, latin, etc.
It’s scary having young ones in these days.
Mommypundit on May 7, 2009 at 7:41 PM
Besides, if you recall, TT says that survivors of “global warming” (which, btw, is a proven hoax) will all be cannibals. That’s the wisdom he offers on that subject. Who knows what he’s getting at with China.
RightWinged on May 7, 2009 at 7:42 PM
She could wear a hairshirt, sprout a halo and become Pope I’d still hate her.
Oldnuke on May 7, 2009 at 7:44 PM
Many unfortunate Chinese men have been forced to resort to dating [buying] women from Vietnam and other parts of Southeast Asia… truly sad.
That said, perhaps Chinese tactics aren’t really Draconian. They are something far different – something we should challenge Ted on. People are allowed to have more than one child, but those that do will receive government sanctioned discrimination. This is not empowering the individual, Ted.
Upstater85 on May 7, 2009 at 7:45 PM
Being divorced, I just cannot homeschool my kids, although I do wish that I could. I am lucky enough that even though they are in a public school, it is a bit more conservative and suburban than most schools in the area. Then again, that might explain why they are consistently ranked at or near the top in several categories. Also a very active parent base. I think the parents being active is the key. They also have some nice mentoring programs for students. My oldest daughter, while in 8th grade, was mentored by a 12th grade young lady that had just been accepted to West Point.
coyoterex on May 7, 2009 at 7:47 PM
Mommy, you can always tell a homeschooled kid from the first few sentences out of their mouths. When we were that age, it usually meant social, er, inadequecies. Not any more! I’ve said for a long time that if I had kids, they’d be private schooled at the least, and homeschooled if possible. My gf has a five year old, going to a really good Christian school. She’s been subbing at the gubmint schools lately, and the horror stories, even in Amarillo Texas!
Nuke, when I was a kid, I always wondered why my dad hated her so much. He didn’t allow any movies of hers to be shown in the house. Never really explained in detail, a young kid wouldn’t have gotten it. As I got older, and learned, I have the same feeling for her.
bikermailman on May 7, 2009 at 7:55 PM
If he’s so rich, why ain’t he smart?
greggriffith on May 7, 2009 at 8:12 PM
I would hypothesize that the one doesn’t necessarily include the other.
hillbillyjim on May 7, 2009 at 8:19 PM
He’s both but that doesn’t prevent him from being a fool.
shick on May 7, 2009 at 8:20 PM
Turner loves Commies:
Ted Turner has called Christianity “a religion for losers,” & Catholics “Jesus Freaks,” & pro-lifers “Bozos.” But Turner is not so mean-spirited to everyone–after once looking gulag-stuffing Soviet leaders “in the eyes,” he was eager to defend them: “…they looked like they meant the truth.” When asked if he agreed that Christian-torturing Kim Jong Il is evil & despotic, he admitted, “I didn’t get to meet him, but he didn’t look, in the pictures that I’ve seen of him on CNN, he didn’t look too much different than most other people.” http://newsbusters.org/node/8225 Most people look like green-pajamas-clad Elvis impersonators, right? Turner insisted that it can’t be so bad in N. Korea, because he “didn’t see any” brutality or starvation.
jgapinoy on May 7, 2009 at 8:21 PM
True. But you kind of have to put the smart part in the used to be category.
hillbillyjim on May 7, 2009 at 8:23 PM
Turner can’t see what’s happening in China as draconian because it’s the kind of stuff he’d like to see happen here. Now that he and his running mates got the whole ball of wax.
dingbat on May 7, 2009 at 8:24 PM
Draconian to Turner is mildly reducing the rate of growth in gov’t spending.
jgapinoy on May 7, 2009 at 8:38 PM
Absolutely awesome writing.
tneloms on May 7, 2009 at 8:39 PM
Is it too late to abort Ted?
iceman1960 on May 7, 2009 at 8:48 PM
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