2002 DNI report: Shameless liar Pelosi was briefed on Zubaydah’s waterboarding
posted at 7:46 pm on May 7, 2009 by Allahpundit
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Remember, Madam Speaker’s official story is that she was briefed merely on the White House’s belief that waterboarding was legal, not that they ever planned to actually, you know, use it. I’m starting to lose count of how much evidence there is to the contrary at this point: First was this 2007 WaPo report on Pelosi being given a virtual tour of a CIA “black site” at which waterboarding would be used, then came Porter Goss’s op-ed last week reminding her that he got the same briefings she got and he knew exactly what was going on, and now here’s ABC today with a contemporaneous report from the office of the Director of National Intelligence confirming that, oh yes, she knew.
The report details a Sept. 4, 2002 meeting between intelligence officials and Pelosi, then-House intelligence committee chairman Porter Goss, and two aides. At the time, Pelosi was the top Democrat on the House intelligence committee.
The meeting is described as a “Briefing on EITs including use of EITs on Abu Zubaydah, background on authorities, and a description of particular EITs that had been employed.”
EITs stand for “enhanced interrogation techniques,” a classification of special interrogation tactics that includes waterboarding…
Brendan Daly, a Pelosi spokesman, said Pelosi’s recollection of the meeting is different than the way it is described in the report from the DNI’s office.
“The briefers described these techniques, said they were legal, but said that waterboarding had not yet been used,” Daly said.
Daly pointed out that the report backs up Pelosi’s contention that she was briefed only once on “enhanced interrogation techniques.”
Follow the link and note ABC’s update about how many other Democrats knew what was up. I’m starting to think that “rebranding” really might be the answer for the GOP. Since all it takes to escape the left’s wrath on issues like torture or extending the war in Afghanistan or quadrupling the size of a deficit they claimed to care about under Bush is calling yourself a Democrat, why not just call ourselves Democrats from now on? We get to keep all the same policies we have now and avail ourselves of the Absolute Moral Authority that comes with claiming the mantle of enlightenment. Show of hands: How many newly minted Blue Dogs here want to see Gitmo stay open?
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Given my age, condition and circumstances, I am of no use physically, financially to such an effort. And given my faith, I will always be pulling for the ethical, moral, gentlemanly approach. However, I know that War is Hell, and there are times that war is essential. So, if it does come to that, I will contribute what I can.
Loxodonta on May 8, 2009 at 12:10 AM
Nancy’s Steps To Get Out of a Lie
Step One: Lie about it
Step Two: When dissenting voices are raised, shout them down.
Step Three: When the evidence comes out, bury the story.
Step Four: Claim it’s not that important.
Step Five: Call up MSNBC and beg.
gordo on May 8, 2009 at 12:36 AM
Hawkdriver! Be safe. Be smart. Be successful. Prayers for you and all in harms way devoting themselves to defending America.
Loxodonta on May 8, 2009 at 12:37 AM
Wouldn’t it be a joy! You could burn 99% of all the dreck they’ve written in the past 20 years and the world would not be one iota worse off
clnurnberg on May 8, 2009 at 1:02 AM
The lie!…It’s the bleeding heart liberal way…brought to you by the deceitful, demented, , democrat party.
christene on May 8, 2009 at 1:11 AM
but then, we all knew she was lying.
AnninCA on May 8, 2009 at 1:16 AM
Your acknowledgement of the problem is the catalyst to its solution!
dmann on May 8, 2009 at 1:17 AM
Pelosi is a lying, immature child in an old lady’s body! How in the hell did she ever get to where she is today? She has tried to destroy the lives of many American public employees by her lying. The question now is what to do about her! She must step down as Speaker AND resign! Period!!
apco on May 8, 2009 at 1:26 AM
Steve Martin defence: I forgot.
Over30 on May 8, 2009 at 6:29 AM
Panties on fire… in public now.
petefrt on May 8, 2009 at 6:33 AM
A politician who’s a shameless liar…now that’s a news flash. I’m betting her numbers will be up in Mexifornia where they cherish their cosmetic surgeries, insane lying politicians, insane lying entertainers, illegal aliens, gays and various other lower forms of life.
orlandocajun on May 8, 2009 at 6:33 AM
Wonder how she’ll handle this if pressed by the media. ‘My recollection is different’ Yeah–how since you were hearing the same things that others present are nearly quoting. She is not fit to even be in the House, let alone in charge. I call for her removal from her position as quickly as possible.
jeanie on May 8, 2009 at 7:52 AM
The same way all these politicos do….rehab. Alcohol, sex, pills, too dependent on tanning beds, whatever. The media will go ‘aaaaaaaaawwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww’ and all will be forgiven.
Limerick on May 8, 2009 at 7:56 AM
Dude… Nancy Pelosi is 1)a criminal, 2) from San Fransicko 3)a liberal democrat 4) completely devoid of morals or ethics 5) a sociopath. There is no way she is ever going to step down or resign willingly.
doriangrey on May 8, 2009 at 8:00 AM
From the Democrat Handbook (Page 1):
Lie, lie, lie… get press to repeat the lie until the story starts to die… renew attacks on “the rich.” Repeat.
mankai on May 8, 2009 at 8:04 AM
Pelosi lied…….people died
chant it loud
chant it proud
JJKRN on May 8, 2009 at 8:05 AM
And I wonder what I’ll do when all those millions finally arrive in my bank account from the late Nigerian Oil Minister’s account.
mankai on May 8, 2009 at 8:07 AM
I think the moral of this story is that you flippin’ better not mess with the CIA! I am sure they know things about every Congress person in Washington DC and they are flexing their muscles a bit after Obama and Pelosi threw them under the bus.
shomegirl on May 8, 2009 at 8:27 AM
I think we can fairly draw at least one conclusion from this episode. The case of Nancy Pelosi vividly illustrates the key to the “torture” controversy. It is a partisan charade. And it is a charade of a particularly disgusting kind. The Democrats’ torture charade is a case of low politics masquerading as high principle. (powerline)
Keemo on May 8, 2009 at 8:34 AM
Nothing makes me happier than for this woman to be exposed for the fraud she is. She’ll deny it, probably, till the day she dies, but at least the word is getting out that this woman is a self-serving, despicable liar.
scalleywag on May 8, 2009 at 8:40 AM
It’s amazing that even when Pelosi is caught red handed as a liar, the WaPo still manages to spin it as being Bush’s fault.
angryed on May 8, 2009 at 8:44 AM
And to answer the question, I think Gitmo needs to stay open.
scalleywag on May 8, 2009 at 8:45 AM
Pelosi…The Top Democrat on the House Intelligence Committee.
what a freakin’ joke.
bridgetown on May 8, 2009 at 8:52 AM
Waterboard Pelosi. I am sure she will remember then.
Diogenes of Sinope on May 8, 2009 at 8:58 AM
Reid and Peloser are human disgraces to the halls of Congress. They are the epitome of evil and the most corrupt leadership in the history of our country. With their corruption and Obam putting liberal incompetents at every level of government, the survival of our nation, as we have known it, will cease to exist.
volsense on May 8, 2009 at 9:06 AM
I appreciate your situation and admire your position. DO stay true to yourself! Very few people reach your mature perspective in this balancing act called life. God bless you.
We shall EXPOSE the corruption. WE remember that when the GOP last enjoyed the majority vote, the RNC campaigned against the party of corruption–DNC. So naturally, in order to twist the knife, the DNC ran on that very same campaign vs. the RNC–problem being that the RNC was not “corrupt” illegal fashion EXCEPT when GWB pushed through the unconstitutional top tier bureaucracy to further inhibit constitutional government via Homeland Security. Turn around being fair play, the GOP must stay on target: Constitutional Platform.
So far as campaigns go, let the social conservatives and Evangelicals preach national repentance of Socialism and witness how well that applies to strong Constitutional Governance as distinct from Socialism. Maintain personal integrity for the party IDEAL that we strive (party members, party leaders, elected officials) to support, not to destroy, in order to protect the urtext of our Constitution. THAT should always take precedence to any subsequent legislation like the damned Homeland Security fascism that we do not need, nor do we want. Retract it for its failures and gross over-reach in federal authority. Campaign on the Constitution. No one can claim moral authority beyond the Constitution without proving themselves extremists. Holding to what we are born with is not radical. Selling it for magic beans is radically stupid.
Expose the Corruption.
Campaign against Corrupt Government Abuse of Powers.
Given intelligence and the internet, we can research. Of course, our searches are absolutely monitored in order to ruin us. But we CAN research.
maverick muse on May 8, 2009 at 9:07 AM
“Waterboarding? I thought they were talking about surfing. Cowabunga and all that.”
–Nan
iurockhead on May 8, 2009 at 9:07 AM
“A great civilization cannot be conquered from without until it destroys itself from within,” Ariel Durant.
Describes what is happening to our nation as we watch it happen.
volsense on May 8, 2009 at 9:08 AM
GW Bush’s bail-outs were also corrupt.
Recognizing the grotesque error:
the GOP rescinds any bail-out support.
The “new” GOP is the basic, down to earth Constitutional Republic Government GOP that made Equal Rights happen.
The fuddyduddy ‘Republican’ who’d sell out the Constitution is NOT GOP.
maverick muse on May 8, 2009 at 9:11 AM
The ignorance of the lefties is shocking. They blatantly lie, and then assume that 100% of the press will cover for them. It only takes 1 reporter or blogger to uncover the truth.
Sunlight – not just the best disinfectant, it makes Dems scurry under the cabinets.
hawksruleva on May 8, 2009 at 9:13 AM
volsense on May 8, 2009 at 9:06 AM
Pelosi Plague aboard the Reid Wreck
Strike while the iron is hot.
The Constitutional Republic abhors the Democrat corruption of America.
maverick muse on May 8, 2009 at 9:16 AM
Is there a Patriot out there who would be willing to dress in drag, and prevaricate a liberal line, to win an election?
darktood on May 8, 2009 at 9:18 AM
assume that 100% of the press will cover for them
hawksruleva on May 8, 2009 at 9:13 AM
Good assumption. Your point being that knowing what we’re up against is not a deterrent to our response to duty.
WE must participate not only in the distribution of accurate research to expose the corrupt socialism usurping our Constitution. WE are unafraid of our own members who have sold out to the progressive socialism. WE call them out regularly. Progressives are responding with their mantra that has now bloated beyond intolerance for good tradition to the assassination of the Conservative. It is the progressives who have extricated themselves from the Constitutional GOP Platform. They may not take the Conservative name with them to de-legitimize the RNC as we Republican Conservatives are mounting the Constitutional Alliance to maintain Rule of Law, Liberty, Justice, and Equality before the law.
maverick muse on May 8, 2009 at 9:24 AM
LIbEral
It’s in their nature.
Onus on May 8, 2009 at 9:25 AM
WE not only distribute accurate research, WE can participate in the huge effort required to research so many things as so much has already happened, is happening now, is about to happen, will ultimately happen given opportunity.
When a news item strikes you, start that search engine and read.
maverick muse on May 8, 2009 at 9:35 AM
Darwinian evolution /s
maverick muse on May 8, 2009 at 9:36 AM
but but but… waterboarding is torture … we even prosecuted the Japanese for it…
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:LeonardGSiffleet.jpg
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max1 on May 8, 2009 at 9:44 AM
Is Pelosi a lawyer by trade? Because she’s now sounding rather Clintonesque in the fine, fine point she’s applying to her
rationalizationsexplanations.NoLeftTurn on May 8, 2009 at 9:59 AM
FIFY.
ladyingray on May 8, 2009 at 10:26 AM
“As this document shows, the Speaker was briefed only once, in September 2002. The briefers described these techniques, said they were legal, but said that waterboarding had not yet been used”…..
Grow Fins on May 8, 2009 at 10:48 AM
Pelosi spokesqueer:
“It all depends on what the meaning of “water” and “boarding” is….”
BobMbx on May 8, 2009 at 11:08 AM
Grow Fins is right.
It would help so much if, like, you guys could actually READ.
strangelet on May 8, 2009 at 11:21 AM
The ‘tude you are copping on torture isn’t exactly winning you friends or influencing people.
“The other side approved of it too!!” is not an excuse.
In one way, we are all guilty of looking the other way.
This hysterical shrieking and finger pointing is unhelpful.
We need to decide if ……as a country….we are ever going to do this again.
That is the discussion we should be having.
strangelet on May 8, 2009 at 11:28 AM
Spys spied.
CIA confide.
Media chide.
Pelosi lied.
Dems denied.
Liberals cried.
Cowards hide.
Truth died.
Yoop on May 8, 2009 at 11:44 AM
The same way the press and American public dealt with almost every single Democrat who in strongly worded statements, supported the Iraqi invasion…..Silence! (except in the conservative echo chambers)
Face it people….we lost/are losing the country to the ultra liberal takeover of our country.
Goodeye_Closed on May 8, 2009 at 11:48 AM
Pelosi is a psychopath.
She is quite a scary individual, considering the position she holds.
KMC1 on May 8, 2009 at 12:02 PM
corruption…abuse of power..subverting the constitution…theft of national treasure…lying and double speak reminiscent of Orwell…grave incompetence…encouraging an illegal invasion from a third world country even after overwhelming public outcry…and many, many other crimes….perpetrated by BOTH DEMOCRATS AND REPUBLICANS.
Yea, I know the Republicans are the lesser of two evils but I do not understand why more independents, libertarians, and conservatives do not flock to the Constitution Party. There are things we do not like about the CP but darn it, this IS conservatism. Maybe too pure of a blend for many, but it’s better than what we have now.
We are absolutely going in the direction our forefathers warned us about and NOTHING is being done to fight it. The Republicans have rolled over in awe in the face of hard core marxist. The ball in is in our court now.
Goodeye_Closed on May 8, 2009 at 12:23 PM
And if she floats we’ll KNOW for a fact she’s a witch!
Liberty or Death on May 8, 2009 at 12:35 PM
She’s lost her “moral compass”? This is not only confirmation that she knew, but that she sought no additional briefings and raised no concerns. Now, let’s proceed with the show trials and let’s start with dear Nancy!
littleguy on May 8, 2009 at 12:52 PM
strangelet on May 8, 2009 at 11:21 AM
Del Dolemonte on May 8, 2009 at 12:56 PM
I can’t wait until Pelosi is gone. How did we get here? We has such a nice country until she came along.
saiga on May 8, 2009 at 1:15 PM
I saw this last night on Fox.
The reports are all fabricated. Pelosi NEVER was briefed on any EIT.
And if you believe that, I have a bridge I’d like to sell you.
madmonkphotog on May 8, 2009 at 1:28 PM
This is what we have as 3rd in line for POTUS. Makes all americans “proud”. Just hope none of these people ever have to make a hard decision when there isn’t time to take a poll first. Or time to come up with their spin to a fall back position.
hillbilly on May 8, 2009 at 1:31 PM
You are absolutely right…if you have your head up your *ss.
Who would ever think that one of the highest ranking members in the Senate, sat for 7 years on committees, the ranking member of the House Intelligence Committee. Sitting through 7 years of meetings, and meeting and discussing a wide range of issues, and she had no idea what EIT meant.
Here is a woman who knows what every one of her colleagues have voted for…she has lead her party on attacks of the most minute details of President Bush’s decisions. But she never knew, or found out what EIT meant, she never understood what was being discussed in these meetings, never thought to ask, never thought to investigate, never had an inkling of what techniques we use, although she had toured most every military base in the U.S., has talked to military advisers for decades, and listened to them for 7 years as the highest ranking member of the committee.
She is either a complete imbecile, or a complete liar.
You don’t sit on these meetings, where it is so secret that minutes are not taken, for seven years and not learn every single thing going on. This is where you listen to find out exactly how safe we are, what we are doing to keep us safe, and where you have contact with the people who have all the answers…and you are the third most powerful person in the U.S., third in line to take over the presidency…you are privately briefed because of your position, you have your own “codes”, in a moment of crises you may be the one leading the country…and you don’t know what is being discussed at the highest lever meetings, the most important committee in the U.S.
You are living in a dream world…
right2bright on May 8, 2009 at 1:39 PM
Apparently for democrats is preferable to agrue that you were willfully ignorant, specifically making an effort not to know anything about proceedures your committee is responsible for overseeing than to admit that you knew about it and approved.
So at best, Pelosi is an ostrich with her head in the sand every time a tough topic is in from of her committee, and at worst she’s a bald face liar willing to do anything to dodge responsibility for her own actions. Either way you look like fools trying to defend it.
But hey, the guy who votes “present” so often is your big hero in the White House, so I guess we shouldn’t expect you to have expectations that your Congressmen actually get involved in making the hard decisions.
Scrappy on May 8, 2009 at 3:34 PM
strangelet and grow fins:
The woman has been caught lying, red handed, no way around it. And from what I hear there is more evidence that she knew exactly what was going on from the git go.
Trying to say otherwise is just silly. It really is.
Not only that but Rockefeller and Harman knew too. The Democrats were not exactly out of the loop.
Terrye on May 8, 2009 at 7:42 PM
Drip, Drip, Drip
I still say if Nancy Pelosi keeps lying, the next step will be the recordings that were made…
Both video and audio…
patch on May 8, 2009 at 8:50 PM
Now that I’ve watched the video of her April 23 discussion with reporters, I understand why the CIA decided to spill the beans on Miss Nancy. “Their business is deception,” she said of the CIA.
Hahahahahaha! Between this and Specter’s spanking by his new fiends on the Dem side of the aisle, I finally have something to smile about this week.
disa on May 9, 2009 at 2:07 AM
Max1, citing wikipedia: “but but but… waterboarding is torture … we even prosecuted the Japanese for it…”
Let’s get down to it, shall we? I have no problem with torturing al Qaeda members to thwart their nasty schemes, and the majority of Americans are with me on this.
The POTUS has a job to do, and national security is at the top of the list. Obama, I think, would actually welcome another attack, because he probably remembers how nice it was when we were regarded as pathetic victims after 9/11. The world loved us because they felt so sorry for us.
Yeah, I know the guy is a twisted s.o.b. There will be no second term. Even the liberal history book writers are going to have a tough time with their hagiography of the first black president of the US.
Well, this is what you get with affirmative action – an inexperienced, underqualified dolt.
disa on May 9, 2009 at 2:17 AM
Politicians usually go the way the wind is blowing. She evidently supported waterboarding when it was OK to do so, but, since the tides have changed she has to be like a chameleon and change her political camouflage. If we ever get hit with WMD she will probably then be on the torture and revenge bandwagon, and, on the circle goes….
DL13 on May 9, 2009 at 10:53 PM
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