Video: Would-be rapist/murderers receive Second Amendment lesson
posted at 4:05 pm on May 6, 2009 by Allahpundit
This one’s too good to be left languishing in Headlines. Glance at the news reports describing what happened and you might think it was a routine burglary that went awry when the homeowner surprised them. Not so much. Needless to say, the shooter’s free and clear of any homicide charges, but I wonder if they’re going to charge him with a lesser offense: While Georgia’s gun laws are pretty lax (no state registration required), you do need a license to carry outside your own home. Did the shooter have one? Was it even his own gun that he grabbed out of the backpack? If he gets anything more than a very short suspended sentence, it’ll be a travesty. Click the image to watch.
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The real question.
How was his grouping?
faol on May 6, 2009 at 5:19 PM
I only resemble his upper lip
:p
blatantblue on May 6, 2009 at 5:21 PM
LOL! I dislocated my shoulder with a 44-40 that I held too gingerly. The SOB still bothers me during cold weather. Live and learn, brother, learn and live.
Limerick on May 6, 2009 at 5:21 PM
Since we have most of our Hot Air gun nuts on this thread, I’ll repost this:
If you think it’s hard to get ammo now, just wait until
Assembly Bill 962 (sounds innocuous, doesn’t it?) gets passed.
STOCK UP ON YOUR AMMO RIGHT NOW FOLKS!!!eleventy!!1!!
Assembly Bill 962 in a nutshell:
ie – no ammo out on the shelves of stores
no internet ammo sales
can’t buy more than 50 rounds per month
This bill is being heard by the Assembly Committee on Appropriations TODAY!
omnipotent on May 6, 2009 at 5:21 PM
The hollow point causes the bullet to spread and break up in the perp. Thereby not going straight through and hitting something you didn’t want hit.
kirkill on May 6, 2009 at 5:21 PM
D’oh! I forgot:
K98k Mauser (Israeli 7.62 NATO conversion)
Ruger 10-22
and two California “Off-List” AR-15 lowers, which will be built as 6.5mm Grendels when the parts situation eases.
pseudonominus on May 6, 2009 at 5:22 PM
I found out the hard way, at a point in my shooting life that I should have known better, that one can place their face too close to the scope…
ladyingray on May 6, 2009 at 5:22 PM
Okay, now you’re just arrogant. :p
ladyingray on May 6, 2009 at 5:25 PM
The frakkin ammo in the safe outweighs the safe by 5-1. I’d need a battalion of infantry to carry it all. Then again, when the BATFE burns my house down it will make for one hell of a screenshot!
Limerick on May 6, 2009 at 5:25 PM
omnipotent on May 6, 2009 at 5:21 PM
Isn’t that just California? Not that it’s not a huge deal…
kirkill on May 6, 2009 at 5:26 PM
I bet Midway doesn’t like this. Not to mention one of our local guys who has shut down his storefront and is only selling via the internet because supply is so scarce.
ladyingray on May 6, 2009 at 5:26 PM
You should see the stand up freezer in the garage…
ladyingray on May 6, 2009 at 5:26 PM
blatantblue on May 6, 2009 at 5:03 PM
28 years ago I bought my wife a Ruger Security 6 357 magnum. Stainless no less. For protection while I was attending night classes. Took her to the range and her first 2 shots hit the silhouette in the crotch. She said she needed more pratice, I said that’ll do hon, that’ll do.
faol on May 6, 2009 at 5:26 PM
yo dislocation is the WORST
did it three times on my knee
I HOOOOOOWWWWLLLEEEEED
well, not cause i shot a gun
blatantblue on May 6, 2009 at 5:27 PM
LOL
that will do
a man would rather take his chances getting shot somewhere other than the ya knows
blatantblue on May 6, 2009 at 5:28 PM
and you all know, that the FBI is now watching all of us on this thread, because we are right-wing extremists. ;-)
kirkill on May 6, 2009 at 5:29 PM
And you’ve pissed her off how many times?
ladyingray on May 6, 2009 at 5:29 PM
The NRA publishes a monthly mag called America’s First Freedom, with a regular section titled “Armed Citizen.” There are stories like this in every single issue, that you never hear about in the MSM.
BTW if you are a gun owner and haven’t yet joined the NRA, now is the time. Obama has packed his Administration with anti-gun zealots, and the coming assault on the 2nd Amendment is going to be the worst ever.
infidel4life on May 6, 2009 at 5:30 PM
And I don’t doubt it….or care.
Limerick on May 6, 2009 at 5:31 PM
Ah, thanks. I didn’t know that.
Esthier on May 6, 2009 at 5:32 PM
Bullet fragmentation is he ‘humanitarian’ way of shooting the enemy. That ain’t the neocon in me, that is the U.N.
Limerick on May 6, 2009 at 5:34 PM
A friend of mine had his face too close to his scope once. He still has a scar around his eye and goes by the nickname “scopeeye”
sgm
Sergeant Major on May 6, 2009 at 5:38 PM
And you’ve pissed her off how many times?
ladyingray on May 6, 2009 at 5:29 PM
NEVER!
She is proficient with:
Bushmaster AR-15 .223
K98 Mauser
9mm Luger
Ruger 10-22/ 2
Ruger security 6 357 / 2
Taurus pt 9 mm
Colt 45 auto
Kimber 45 auto
Winchester 22 single shot
Remington 22 bolt/w/ clip
Remington 12 gauge auto
Savage Stevens 12 gauge double
M1 Garand
Beretta .32 auto
Mann .25 auto
Taurus .40 auto
The only one she has not fired is our Cap and ball 45 Colt replica. TOO HEAVY!
faol on May 6, 2009 at 5:39 PM
I wish I had one of those!
ladyingray on May 6, 2009 at 5:41 PM
But isn’t the cause of getting guns out of the hands of those law-abiding citizens worth 10 lives? /sarc
NMRN123 on May 6, 2009 at 5:44 PM
ME too
blatantblue on May 6, 2009 at 5:45 PM
ladyingray on May 6, 2009 at 5:41 PM
I am easy to buy Birthday and Xmas presents for. She appreciates that for the guy who has everything. You can NEVER have too many cars, tools or guns.
faol on May 6, 2009 at 5:45 PM
Yes, but so was gay marraige
and higher fuel standards
and smog testing
and lower smog requirements
and apathy for illegal immegrants
and so on……
omnipotent on May 6, 2009 at 5:48 PM
I know others who have your same illness…
ladyingray on May 6, 2009 at 5:50 PM
It’s a terrible affliction.
blatantblue on May 6, 2009 at 6:06 PM
I have a replica 1858 Remington in .44 caliber. There is a big muzzle flash even in a bright sunny day.
Pelayo on May 6, 2009 at 6:08 PM
I can’t find any ammo to buy…guess I should have stocked up last year. There is NOTHING in the local stores and it’s been that way for months.
Online isn’t much better.
Asher on May 6, 2009 at 6:08 PM
No ammo
Asher on May 6, 2009 at 6:08 PM
Report I saw said something like 5 billion rounds of ammo were sold last year.
I ordered some 45 Colt ammo about 3 weeks ago…should get it within a week. Can’t tell you where I got it, or I’ll have to shoot you.
kirkill on May 6, 2009 at 6:19 PM
Great for lacerating major organs! :)
moxie_neanderthal on May 6, 2009 at 6:21 PM
I should have bought a 45 LC revolver, I guess. That stuff is always on the shelf when I go into my sporting goods store.
45 auto? Nope. 9mm…nada. .380? Haven’t seen that in weeks and weeks. .44 magnum? All out.
I wish I had bought all the .44 special before that went bye bye too. :(
Asher on May 6, 2009 at 6:33 PM
just *KNEW* there had to be more than (1) of those around!!
Nice piece, but damn hard to conceal for us skinny kids ~
8-)
CaveatEmpty on May 6, 2009 at 6:37 PM
CaveatEmpty on May 6, 2009 at 6:37 PM
Bought it in 1980 for $225.
Will still blow down a building or if out of ammo you can beat them to death with it.
faol on May 6, 2009 at 6:53 PM
This is why I have a loaded 1911 at arms-length at all times. It should buy me enough time to get to my gun safe so I can bring out the big heaters!
I am glad that the would be rapist was shot in the face though… Warms the heart.
Claypigeon on May 6, 2009 at 6:56 PM
No ammo
Asher on May 6, 2009 at 6:08 PM
Now I feel guilty. A friend works for the state and asked if I wanted some ammo. Sure! 1000 rounds of 9mm and 550 of .223. I only had a Luger in 9 and I almost never fire it. With that much ammo I had to buy a weapon right? Got a Taurus PT 111 9mm. Inexpensive and gobbles up the ammo I now have. I am however saving some for a rainy ( acorn) day.
faol on May 6, 2009 at 6:58 PM
Claypigeon on May 6, 2009 at 6:56 PM
Would have been even better if the girl had nailed him.
My 18 year old is friggin dealy with her scoped 10-22.
faol on May 6, 2009 at 7:00 PM
Cla
Claypigeon on May 6, 2009 at 6:56 PM
Would have been even better if the girl had nailed him.
My 18 year old is friggin deaDly with her scoped 10-22.
faol on May 6, 2009 at 7:00 PM
faol on May 6, 2009 at 7:01 PM
I got home from a bad day at work and I go on line to hot Air. I read this and it makes me feel so good to hear about this punk getting shot down like a dog.The world is a better place today with out this dog running around.The cops need to find his friend and put him in jail.
Denniscat on May 6, 2009 at 7:04 PM
Really makes you (And Obama) think. 5 billion rounds a year and we have been dry for 6 months with the factories turning out ammo 24/7. Remington, completely out. Winchester handgun ammo, gone. This does not include reloaders and Military surplus. Premium Prices too. Powder, gone. Primers, sold as fast as they come in. No Winchester Silvertip bullets for love or Money.
Something about Obama inspires such Unity and Trust!
GunRunner on May 6, 2009 at 7:17 PM
I know a girl who is a gunsmith and carries concealed. She has a hard time keeping boyfriends.
boomer on May 6, 2009 at 7:24 PM
But, but, but, a show on ABC a few weeks ago said that it was useless to try to defend yourself with a gun. Do you mean they lied??????
darwin-t on May 6, 2009 at 7:36 PM
Too bad this will stay local news, except for good places like this that will publish it further.
PLEASE forward this to all your friends especially your lefty leaning ones.
…seeing African American students defending themselves against black on black crime will make their heads explode!
this was a heart warmer especially since all you usually hear about is columbine, Virginia Tech, and others. this only goes to prove what we’ve been saying all along. “(shaking head) If only someone sane had had a gun and could have saved the lives of a few of the others.” if the teacher god rest his soul (that had blocked the door so others could escape giving his own life) at Virginia Tech had had a pistol, maybe that would have had a happier ending like this one did.
-Wasteland Man.
WastelandMan on May 6, 2009 at 7:44 PM
Very good to see…a man like that shows why it is necessary to be wary of those who don’t respect the laws.
Our ability to defend ourselves is a positive liberty we retain so as to ensure that those who use it negatively get a response.
Kahr/Thompson TA-5
Ruger Mk. III
LW Seecamp 32
Vz. 61 Skorpion
2 – Mosin-Nagant’s and learning to enjoy the smell of cosmoline… figures the economy would go south the same time my C&R arrived.
ajacksonian on May 6, 2009 at 8:11 PM
Hey Allah!
Are you insane?
Registration is the first step to confiscation! The only reason anyone wants to register guns is to know “who has them”. That is of interest only if you want to come and take them away.
For you to describe this as
put you firmly in the clueless moron category.
What would you describe as “reasonable”? DNA testing? A government permit to own a gun? (Proof positive that it doesn’t take brains to blog!)
CrazyGene on May 6, 2009 at 8:12 PM
Hurray!!!
Three Cheers for the Defender!!!
Virginia Tech could have turned out differently if he was there.
threeCents on May 6, 2009 at 8:33 PM
ladyingray, you must live close to me. First I noticed a TN reference and now it seems you have mentioned a certain local ammo dealer. Starts with a “W”? Does the sit-n-bull mean anything to you? If so, glad to know there’s kinfolk about.
Barntender on May 6, 2009 at 8:59 PM
…seeing African American students defending themselves against black on black crime will make their heads explode!
I found this aspect of the story interesting. Often times when we see black on black crime witnesses refuse to call the police or offer testimony. Here the victims defend themselves and vanquish the thugs. To top it all off the police in Georgia don’t try to make the hero out to be a reckless gun owner or worse a criminal. This was a good story!
jimboslice on May 6, 2009 at 9:00 PM
If you use birdshot for self defense, The Box of Truth site is one you may want to read.
Realistically, if it will not penetrate walls, it will not penetrate a human reliably.
MoCoM on May 6, 2009 at 9:12 PM
Yes, but if you look at the law you will note that if this was at on campus housing instead of off campus housing then the gun would have been illegal.
I wonder if this will prompt them to change that part of the law.
JeffinSac on May 6, 2009 at 9:17 PM
As I repeat in my firearms class “It is always better and preferable to be judged by twelve rather than carried by six. What do you think?”
Amendment X on May 6, 2009 at 9:24 PM
God, I love stories like this.
holygoat on May 6, 2009 at 9:29 PM
I prefer an alternating stack of full metal jacket and hollow point. Sometimes you DO want the ability to effectively shoot through material. Particularly if your perp has watched too many movies and has an unreasonably high opinion of the protective stopping power of 1/4 inch drywall and 2×4 construction.
moxie_neanderthal on May 6, 2009 at 10:07 PM
moxie_neanderthal on May 6, 2009 at 10:07 PM
I remember an old episode of Miami Vice in which Crocket was chasing a bad guy who ran into a bathroom in someones house. Crocket just fired through the wall and nailed him. I scared my wife when I screamed YYEESS! Just what anyone who knew about guns would do. Go ahead and hide behind that trashcan it will not save you perp.
faol on May 6, 2009 at 10:22 PM
I am having too much fun with my new Marlin 1895 lever action in 45-70; at least after I upgraded the recoil pad. With the scope and the new ammo I can get small groups at 100 yds easily. If I ever have to shoot in self defense I don’t think a wall or a car or a vest will make much difference.
On the other hand; if I ever run into a critter that can’t be stopped with 5 rounds of 405 gr JSP I probably should have spent the time running instead of shooting.
mad scientist on May 6, 2009 at 10:33 PM
mad scientist on May 6, 2009 at 10:33 PM
My wife asked what I would do if my Mauser did not stop the bear coming at me. Simple I explained just run he would never catch me. She reminded me that a bear can catch a horse in short bursts. Not if he’s slipping in my poop I retorted.
faol on May 6, 2009 at 10:36 PM
faol on May 6, 2009 at 10:36 PM
I bought the rifle because I can hunt basically any North American game with it; but I’m not eager to try bears. Hogs are something I may be interested in; and there is a population explosion in Fl and Southern TX. Hogs tend to run away (not javelina, little bisterds run in packs).
mad scientist on May 6, 2009 at 10:43 PM
Absolutely! One of the reasons I went to a heavy magnum revolver. Basically the inside of a house is transparent to your weapon. Take the extra 1/4 second and line up the sights and squeeze. Furniture, inside walls, doors, etc are essentially transparent to a high powered handgun. A lot more practice to get good, but when you can toss an orange into the air and hit it, or clang a 12 by 12 steel plate at 200 yards or empty the cylinder in 2.5 sec with full loads into 6 targets, you will have learned.
GunRunner on May 6, 2009 at 10:45 PM
moxie_neanderthal on May 6, 2009 at 10:07 PM
Have you heard about DPX ammo? I just bought the first box for my 45LC recently. This is an all-copper molded hollowpoint loaded to max pressure (cor-bon). It just might be a single solution if it doesn’t over-penetrate.
mad scientist on May 6, 2009 at 10:48 PM
GunRunner on May 6, 2009 at 10:45 PM
Bravo to your marksmanship; I might be able to come close if I had enough money and time to devote to practice. My Dad used to shoot tin cans with his 357 at 75 yards, we used to sit in the back yard and clip pine cones out of the trees with our pellet guns after work. It can be done but it takes a lot of practice.
mad scientist on May 6, 2009 at 10:59 PM
During summer family vacations at Dad’s farm, we spend time target shooting. My niece was 11 last year and my brother let her shoot his .300 Savage for the first time. She took aim, fired, got knocked back a few inches by the recoil and looked up with the biggest grin on her face. Her words? “That was AWESOME!”
She just got a .22 for her 12′th birthday.
First and primary rule of gun handling: Every gun you pick up is loaded and ready to fire. Even if the person who gave it to you says it isn’t. If if you unloaded it 5 minutes ago. Treat every gun as if it’s loaded and you aren’t going to hurt yourself or anyone else.
AZfederalist on May 6, 2009 at 11:00 PM
A friend sent me a picture of a woman firing at a target in a darkened setting. It’s taken from the right rear and you can read on the back of her t-shirt, this:
Gun Control: The theory that a woman found dead in an alley, raped and strangled with her own pantyhose, is somehow morally superior to a woman explaining to police how her attacker got that fatal bullet wound.
Does anyone know where this shirt can be purchased?
TugboatPhil on May 6, 2009 at 11:46 PM
Equipped
No, but I’ll check it out. Thanks
I still have a box of the old .40 Black Talon ammo prior to their removal from the market. Another example of histrionics over substance.
~Orwell
The term assult weapon has been used as a cudgel by gun opponents to control the debate for far too long. It is now part of the lexicon but has become so bastardized and meaningless to everyone except those who wish to politicize gun ownership. The phrase itself is a translation of the WWII Sturmgewehr “storm-rifle”.
Last time I checked, none of the guns available for general public purchase come with a selector switch. I know…facts should never get in the way of good intentions.
moxie_neanderthal on May 6, 2009 at 11:54 PM
Great quote!
That captures the mindlessness of the handgun debate.
In the event of a break in, I’d rather my wife rely on her marksmanship and the power of a Glock .40 than her negotiation skills and the promptness of the police.
moxie_neanderthal on May 7, 2009 at 12:01 AM
I’ll never be left unarmed again.
Dollayo on May 7, 2009 at 1:36 AM
They lost the moral superiority of being victims.
gooddad on May 7, 2009 at 7:55 AM
+100
I had both these things happen to me independently, rather than together…the flash backs are difficult.
Mommypundit on May 7, 2009 at 8:08 AM
I wonder sometimes what it would be like to have to use deadly force and would I have the stones to do it. I think it’s healthy to have that little bit of doubt. It helps to keep an edge and pushes me to practice more so that, should that day ever come, I will at least be confident that I can hit what I aim at. I think it may be like when I had my first parachute malfunction and had to cut away my main. My reaction was by the numbers, without any emotion, and I got that reserve out just like we practiced on the ground.
The emotions and “shakes” came after I landed and started thinking about what might have been. Maybe it was like that for the homeowner. Focus on the problem and resolve it and deal with the emotions later.
Score one for the good guys.
SKYFOX on May 7, 2009 at 8:09 AM
SKYFOX on May 7, 2009 at 8:09 AM
Really hard to tell what anyone would do in a hairy situation. I want to get a conceal permit but I’m not sure if I would actually carry. I live in a very safe area in Northern Va and in 54 years never had an incident where I wished I had one. However, as we get older and become more of a target it would be nice to cower then suprise an attacker. The VA Tech massacre still bothers me. So many cowardly young men let that asshole slaughter. Guess they were all on Ritalin to supress their aggressive male behavior.
faol on May 7, 2009 at 9:43 AM
No, they were attemtping to start a concensus circle and were ready to vote on who would be the facilitator when the shooter, in an unreasonable fit of non-group think, opened fire.
Amazingly, none of the survivors was able to make any mention of the shooter’s reasoning; they were also upset that they weren’t given an opportunity to join with the shooter in his protest against…..whatever is was. They place the blame for that on the Va. Tech Administrators, whose policy’s obviously drove the shooter over the limits of his mental capacity.
/sarc
BobMbx on May 7, 2009 at 12:56 PM
“Really hard to tell what anyone would do in a hairy situation. I want to get a conceal permit but I’m not sure if I would actually carry.”
Then you won’t, faol. It’s too bad too. Concealed weapons almost always save lives.
Kevin M on May 7, 2009 at 1:54 PM
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