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Oklahoma legislature asserts sovereignty, overrides veto

posted at 5:35 pm on May 6, 2009 by Ed Morrissey
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The Oklahoma House defied a veto from Democratic Governor Brad Henry to approve a resolution asserting its sovereignty under the Constitution. The Senate had approved the initial resolution 29-18, just shy of the two-thirds needed to sustain an override, but this new bill does not require his signature. Backers are optimistic that they will succeed in sending a message to Washington DC to start limiting themselves to truly federal tasks:

Although Gov. Brad Henry vetoed similar legislation 10 days earlier, House members Monday again approved a resolution claiming Oklahoma’s sovereignty.

Unlike House Joint Resolution 1003, House Concurrent Resolution 1028 does not need the governor’s approval.

The House passed the measure 73-22. It now goes to the Senate. …

Key said HCR 1028, which, if passed, would be sent to Democratic President Barack Obama and the Democratic-controlled Congress, would not jeopardize federal funds but would tell Congress to “get back into their proper constitutional role.” The resolution states the federal government should “cease and desist” mandates that are beyond the scope of its powers.

Key said many federal laws violate the 10th Amendment, which says powers not delegated to the U.S. government “are reserved to the states respectively, or to the people.” The Constitution lists about 20 duties required of the U.S. government, he said.

The bill does not have any practical legal effect. It serves as a notice to the Obama administration and Congress that the Oklahoma legislature has taken offense at the federal government’s aggrandizement, which to be fair has come at the hands of both parties in DC. They’re specifically objecting to the bailouts planned by the Obama administration and those that came before in the Bush administration, especially since the White House now backs bankruptcy — after throwing away tens of billions of dollars — for bailed-out automakers.

The move leaves Henry twisting in the wind. A recent poll shows Henry to have a high degree of popularity, but that may change if Henry continues to act as a big-government apologist. The same poll showed Henry on the wrong side of another big issue, requiring identification when voting, which is supported by a whopping 82.7% of Oklahomans and opposed by Henry.

Maybe he can get some help from Janet Napolitano. After all, her DHS considers people who promote federalism and adherence to state sovereignty as potential threats to national security. Can a probe into the OK legislature be far behind?


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So Janet was right those state’s right folks are a threat to Obama’s overreaching power. Can’t have that.

petunia on May 6, 2009 at 5:37 PM

What reason did the Governor give for the veto?

ladyingray on May 6, 2009 at 5:38 PM

The same poll showed Henry on the wrong side of another big issue, requiring identification when voting, which is supported by a whopping 82.7% of Oklahomans and opposed by Henry.

Democrats want Card Check only for unions, not for voters. Wow!

Loxodonta on May 6, 2009 at 5:39 PM

It should have some practical effect, when the state starts refusing to allow unfunded mandates from the feds. That will be the real test of each side’s cojones.

Vashta.Nerada on May 6, 2009 at 5:40 PM

“Can a probe into the OK legislature be far behind?”

Images of the The Waco Massacre come to mind………..

Seven Percent Solution on May 6, 2009 at 5:41 PM

The same poll showed Henry on the wrong side of another big issue, requiring identification when voting, which is supported by a whopping 82.7% of Oklahomans and opposed by Henry.

This always seemed like a good issue to run on at the state level. I would venture to guess that all states would produce a > 66% of public supporting voter ID laws. Couple this with a voting system that uses only scantron ballots (e.g., fill in the bubble). When you submit the ballot the machine receiving the ballot prints a label that contains a serial number identifying your ballot (but not you). You can use this serial number to see how the government recorded your votes on the web.

A simple way to have fairer elections.

WashJeff on May 6, 2009 at 5:42 PM

A court in Spain has convicted the entire OK legislature of crimes against humanity.

Ted Torgerson on May 6, 2009 at 5:46 PM

Good job Oklahoma . . . resistance to tyranny comes in many forms and usually starts small.

rplat on May 6, 2009 at 5:46 PM

I support every state doing this. It sends a message. I’m still hesitant about the demanding constitutional amendment thing. It sounds like a fine plan to scare Washington, but what happens if it rolls through and you’ve got the leftists in DC writing a new constitution? I’m trying to move to one of these red states voting for sovereignty. I smell secession and I’m fighting for state’s rights just like my ancestors.

chicagojedi on May 6, 2009 at 5:48 PM

This country has had enough. This is one more sign of a growing backlash against 0-bama, the Democrat-controlled Congress, and an out-of-control federal government.

Too bad the Republican politicians are too stupid to figure out how to ride it.

Cicero43 on May 6, 2009 at 5:49 PM

I hope TX follows suit. States, please get your act together! If you don’t, you won’t be a state.
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letget on May 6, 2009 at 5:49 PM

would not jeopardize federal funds

Oklahoma:

We demand our state’s individuality be protected. But keep giving us that sweet, sweet government cheese.

lorien1973 on May 6, 2009 at 5:49 PM

We need more people/states standing up to the thugs in WDC.

Evil prospers when good men do nothing.

jukin on May 6, 2009 at 5:50 PM

awesome, too bad Colorado is full of big government from head to toe.

kirkill on May 6, 2009 at 5:51 PM

Get real, do you rally think ANY ONE, mainly the current admin, really give a sheets what anyone thinks, much less a hick state like OK?

foxone on May 6, 2009 at 5:51 PM

Dang nabbit.
I’ll be damned if we let those tornado-junky kite-flyers start up a revolution without us. I’m emailing my state rep and Gov. Perry.

They should whip something up in a hurry. God knows Texas can’t be second fiddle to OKLAHOMA.

Kai on May 6, 2009 at 5:51 PM

Is this similar to the resolution the State of Texas passed a few weeks ago and Perry signed?

davek70 on May 6, 2009 at 5:51 PM

Hmmmm I wonder if I can get the Alaska Legislat-tards to do this?

upinak on May 6, 2009 at 5:53 PM

What reason did the Governor give for the veto?

ladyingray on May 6, 2009 at 5:38 PM

The white house made him an offer he couldn’t refuse.

Daggett on May 6, 2009 at 5:54 PM

Federalism rears its lovely. From a Canuck point of view, it’s a beautiful thing.

Blaise on May 6, 2009 at 5:54 PM

What actual benefit, if any, does this give them or is it just symbolic?

jeanie on May 6, 2009 at 5:56 PM

Texas, Montana, Oklahoma …

Governors in other states in open revolt over spendulous.

Hundreds of Tea Parties …

We have NOT seen anything like this since before the Civil War.

HOPE AND CHANGE? MORE LIKE DEPRESSION AND DESTRUCTION.

Obama has completely polarized the nation after promising to “work” with the other side.

Oh well – I’m all good with this – we need to roll back the feds.

HondaV65 on May 6, 2009 at 6:01 PM

I would venture to guess that all states would produce a > 66% of public supporting voter ID laws.

The left wing government of Massachusetts wants to give illegal aliens the vote.

I wish I was kidding.

Rebar on May 6, 2009 at 6:01 PM

Martial Law coming to Oklahoma…it has been taking over by the right-wing extremists. /s

Joe Caps on May 6, 2009 at 6:03 PM

A simple way to have fairer elections.

WashJeff on May 6, 2009 at 5:42 PM

You do realize you are now officially an Enemy of The One?

platypus on May 6, 2009 at 6:03 PM

The thought of Gov. Crist standing up to D.C. in general and Pres. Obama specifically is laugh out loud funny. He was a first class whore for the stimulus bill.

Cindy Munford on May 6, 2009 at 6:03 PM

You do realize you are now officially an Enemy of The One?

platypus on May 6, 2009 at 6:03 PM

Wait a sec. I thought everyone was the “enemy”.

upinak on May 6, 2009 at 6:04 PM

lorien:

I am from Oklahoma and let me tell you this, they do not get much government cheese. There are not nearly as many social programs in that state, not as many give aways either. They even have the Turner turnpike, a toll road. Okies have not ever had a lot, it is boom and bust state.

They are simply asserting their independence as a state. I would not be surprised if other western states do not do the same.

Terrye on May 6, 2009 at 6:04 PM

What’s the weather like in Oklahoma? Average price of housing?

Sounds like a lovely place to move to and leave the cesspool of Chicago/Illinois.

Knucklehead on May 6, 2009 at 6:04 PM

Cindy Munford on May 6, 2009 at 6:03 PM

I know, right?

A “yes man,” if you will:

“OOOOH PPLEEEEZE MISTAH OBAMA PLEEEEEZE LEMME DO WHATEVA I CAN TO HELP U WITH THIS STIMALUS BEEEL!”

Buncha’ crank yankers all

blatantblue on May 6, 2009 at 6:05 PM

What actual benefit, if any, does this give them or is it just symbolic?

jeanie on May 6, 2009 at 5:56 PM

Well … for now it’s mostly symbolic. What they’re doing is placing the Federal Government on notice that they have come up to the line – and should not go farther.

It really depends on how stalwart the states who are passing these resolutions are. The Feds will keep pushing and they will cross the lines. At that point – the states can lean back on these resolutions and openly revolt against the Feds – or they can do nothing.

In the 80’s the Maui City Council banned all nuclear devices in “Maui County”. Immediately after they did that – my nuclear submarine, the USS NEW YORK CITY (SSN 696) was quietly dispatched to make an unannounced “port call” to the island of Maui. The message there was – “you can pass any law you want to there, Maui. But we will still pull our nuclear reactor in whenever we wish.”

Maui did nothing to stop us.

HondaV65 on May 6, 2009 at 6:06 PM

Unlimited Federal power checked by mandate?

Who knew?

Speakup on May 6, 2009 at 6:06 PM

Good for Oklahoma.

Too bad for Prince Obama, of the Obarfy Badministration.

blatantblue on May 6, 2009 at 6:06 PM

Yay for OK. Gotta say here that is my home state.

ElRonaldo on May 6, 2009 at 6:06 PM

I’d love to see states start their reclaiming by declaring single-payer federal government provided health care null and void in their states.

Dusty on May 6, 2009 at 6:06 PM

You do realize you are now officially an Enemy of The One?

platypus on May 6, 2009 at 6:03 PM

I am ten minutes from Rev. Wright and 40 minutes from Obama. They can come visit me.

The left wing government of Massachusetts wants to give illegal aliens the vote.

Rebar on May 6, 2009 at 6:01 PM

Another example that these idiots do not want fair elections and do not respect responsibility.

WashJeff on May 6, 2009 at 6:07 PM

Knucklehead:

My brother still lives in Oklahoma. I left there years ago, but I go back a lot, in fact I will be flying to Oklahoma in a couple of weeks.

Their unemployment rate is about 5% well below the national average and their property tax rates are much lower than they are here in Indiana.

The air and water are clean. It has beautiful sunsets and huge skies and a lot of history.

Terrye on May 6, 2009 at 6:07 PM

Honda:

Fort Sill is in Oklahoma. In fact the county where that base is went something like 78% McCain. Not one county in OKlahoma went for Obama, not even Tulsa or OKC.

So, the Feds might not go that far out there. It could get touchy.

Terrye on May 6, 2009 at 6:11 PM

Maybe we can get every state West of the Mississippi and East of the Sierra’s to follow suit. Colorado will be our biotch.

PappaMac on May 6, 2009 at 6:12 PM

I am ten minutes from Rev. Wright and 40 minutes from Obama. They can come visit me.

WashJeff on May 6, 2009 at 6:07 PM

Well, all I can say is that you certainly have a decent set of cojones. Carry on.

platypus on May 6, 2009 at 6:12 PM

blatantblue on May 6, 2009 at 6:05 PM

But according to the poll, I am the only person in the state that’s not in love with him. So depressing.

Cindy Munford on May 6, 2009 at 6:27 PM

The air and water are clean. It has beautiful sunsets and huge skies and a lot of history.

Terrye on May 6, 2009 at 6:07 PM

That’s one of the few states I have yet to visit-OK and Texas are my next priorities. I understand that in Tulsa, Bob Wills is still just as popular as he was in Texas, even decades after his death.

Del Dolemonte on May 6, 2009 at 6:28 PM

Knucklehead on May 6, 2009 at 6:04 PM

Well I just bought a house in north OKC for $140K. It’s 1700 sq. ft., two years old with the latest construction standards, and is in a real nice neighborhood. Oh, and the people are just nicer. I love it here.

Meric1837 on May 6, 2009 at 6:28 PM

This is a heart-warming story, to be sure, but it has no real effect other than serving as an example of what quite a few other states will invariably follow.

What is of far greater import, however, is the new Montana law regarding the manufacture of Class III firearms and silencers in Montana for in-state consumption.

It forces Obama’s hand, and will serve as a rallying point for Federalists throughout the country.

Your contributor (Keemo) has an outstanding article about it on today’s Hotair (http://hotair.com/greenroom/archives/2009/05/06/governor-brian-schweitzer-d-signs-revolutionary-new-gun-law-in-montana/ ) that Captain Ed may want to move to the body of highlighted articles (i.e. the ones that he, Allah and Michelle write) to make sure everyone gets to read it.

molonlabe28 on May 6, 2009 at 6:29 PM

What actual benefit, if any, does this give them or is it just symbolic?

jeanie on May 6, 2009 at 5:56 PM

It’s purely an act of symbolism, much like firing on Ft. Sumter.

hicsuget on May 6, 2009 at 6:32 PM

It might be painful for everyone, but I’m all for seeing the “United States of America” become the “Sovereign States of America” for long enough to drive home the point that sock puppet is not and will never be our dictator.

That SOB is supposed to be the chief representative of the country, not our dictator. On top of this, I don’t need some sleaze in Connecticut telling me how I do business in Michigan or anywhere else.

A full stop needs to be put to this over reaching, even if it hurts like hell for a while.

Spiritk9 on May 6, 2009 at 6:34 PM

State rights terrorists need to be put in their place…and Janet is just the man to do it.

right2bright on May 6, 2009 at 6:34 PM

It’s purely an act of symbolism, much like firing on Ft. Sumter.

hicsuget on May 6, 2009 at 6:32 PM

Last I heard, that war never really ended. Just a real long cease fire. At the rate that Prezzident Thug is going, we’ll soon see if that’s accurate.

platypus on May 6, 2009 at 6:35 PM

DoleDelmonte:

Oklahoma is like Texas’s little brother. We fight a lot, but we love each other.

Terrye on May 6, 2009 at 6:36 PM

Get real, do you rally think ANY ONE, mainly the current admin, really give a sheets what anyone thinks, much less a hick state like OK?

foxone on May 6, 2009 at 5:51 PM

I have been to Oklahoma many times, and have friends there. Dear friends. They are the friendliest, nicest, and down to earth people. As was said, there is a lot of history, and beautiful places, and things to see. Please don’t refer to her, as a hick state. I take that personally!

capejasmine on May 6, 2009 at 6:37 PM

If Ok is a hick state, so be TX and numerous S states. I am proud to be a TX resident. There are states who believe our Republic is for the people and by the people. Our bho can not dictate to us and has not a clue who we are. We are all under dear jan saying we are a threat to our country. Well, jan, we love our coutry and will see it will survive.
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letget on May 6, 2009 at 6:49 PM

When I lived in Oklahoma (Ponca City and Lawton), I used to watch the lively debates in the state legislature in OKC on TV – very enjoyable, unlike the boring dummies we had down in Austin.

TexasJew on May 6, 2009 at 6:54 PM

We demand our state’s individuality be protected. But keep giving us that sweet, sweet government cheese.

lorien1973 on May 6, 2009 at 5:49 PM

Would abstinence from “federal” funds strengthen or weaken Oklahoma? Would Oklahoma, thus strengthened or weakened, be more or less capable of using the powers notionally retained by the state and people of Oklahoma?

According to the headline of a front-page article in USAToday yesterday, “Federal aid is top revenue for states.”

http://www.usatoday.com/news/nation/2009-05-04-fed-states-revenue_N.htm

I’m disappointed, by the way, that as far as I know, HotAir’s bloggers didn’t comment on this news. At any rate, the “federal” government is able to tax away money the state governments might otherwise tax as their own revenue, and it seems that circumstance is an important cause of the states’ dependence on “federal” aid. In former times, the state legislatures had some say in all federal legislation, because the state legislatures elected the U.S. Senate. I don’t know what they can do to put the “federal” government back in bounds now that would not amount to a rebellion against it.

Kralizec on May 6, 2009 at 6:59 PM

They should whip something up in a hurry. God knows Texas can’t be second fiddle to OKLAHOMA.

Kai on May 6, 2009 at 5:51 PM

You got the thought out of my brain! I would’ve written it first had I not been reading Atlas Shrugged at the time. :P

Seriously, glad to see them do it. Good on ya, Okies!

bikermailman on May 6, 2009 at 6:59 PM

Well I just bought a house in north OKC for $140K. It’s 1700 sq. ft., two years old with the latest construction standards, and is in a real nice neighborhood. Oh, and the people are just nicer. I love it here.
Meric1837 on May 6, 2009 at 6:28 PM
I was in Oklahoma when the famous multibillion-dollar Penn Square Bank disaster hit (1981-82), and all of north OKC went into receivership.
Oklahoma learned from that and their banks now are among the healthiest in the nation – and they are lending!
And yes – Oklahomans are the nicest group of people that I have ever met.
As a Texas Longhorn, I could get shot for saying that, btw..

TexasJew on May 6, 2009 at 7:02 PM

How did a liberal Dem get elected gov of Oklahoma? Strange times we live in, strange f**king times.

angryed on May 6, 2009 at 7:04 PM

Maybe we’ll call our new country Okas instead of Texahoma.

notagool on May 6, 2009 at 7:07 PM

As a Texas Longhorn, I could get shot for saying that, btw..

TexasJew on May 6, 2009 at 7:02 PM

In some parts, being a Longhorn could get you shot…

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bikermailman on May 6, 2009 at 7:07 PM

Maybe we’ll call our new country Okas instead of Texahoma.
notagool on May 6, 2009 at 7:07 PM

Well, if Louisiana joined in, and those La. Cajuns call themselves “coonasses”, so it would be “Okcoonas”

TexasJew on May 6, 2009 at 7:09 PM

Oh no! Look out Obama, they passed a resolution! It’s a nice thing I guess. It just doesn’t really do squat.

boomer on May 6, 2009 at 7:09 PM

The Supremes would rule against them if they ever got a chance, citing Wickard v. Filburn.

I’d still like to see the fight. What I’d really like to see is a repeal of the 17th amendment.

darwin-t on May 6, 2009 at 7:11 PM

Oh no! Look out Obama, they passed a resolution! It’s a nice thing I guess. It just doesn’t really do squat.

boomer on May 6, 2009 at 7:09 PM

Yeah I don’t Stalin, Mao or Hitler cared much for resolutions either.

angryed on May 6, 2009 at 7:11 PM

don’t think that is

angryed on May 6, 2009 at 7:11 PM

Y’all are right, it’s just a resolution. But it’s also a start.

bikermailman on May 6, 2009 at 7:12 PM

Oh no! Look out Obama, they passed a resolution! It’s a nice thing I guess. It just doesn’t really do squat.
boomer on May 6, 2009 at 7:09 PM

Neither did that little letter the colonists sent to King George.

TheBigOldDog on May 6, 2009 at 7:13 PM

Oh no! Look out Obama, they passed a resolution! It’s a nice thing I guess. It just doesn’t really do squat.
boomer on May 6, 2009 at 7:09 PM
They did plenty.
They voted strongly against the little lying bastard in November.
Some people are simply wiser than others.

TexasJew on May 6, 2009 at 7:14 PM

Wow! Maybe Igor Panarin is right.

Mason on May 6, 2009 at 7:20 PM

Oklahoma is like Texas’s little brother. We fight a lot, but we love each other.
Terrye on May 6, 2009 at 6:36 PM

That is very true. I have family in Okla and every football season it the Hatfield and McCoy.

Kai on May 6, 2009 at 5:51 PM said it right, I’ll be damned if we let those tornado-junky kite-flyers start up a revolution without us.

try again later on May 6, 2009 at 7:22 PM

But according to the poll, I am the only person in the state that’s not in love with him. So depressing.

Cindy Munford on May 6, 2009 at 6:27 PM

Here’s another Sunshine Stater who doesn’t have the blinders on when it comes to Charlie NarciCrist.

I can rustle up a lot more if you like.

Marybeth on May 6, 2009 at 7:36 PM

Anyone thinking of moving to OK and then visiting TX, you need to know….when you buy a inch thick chunk of toasted garlic bread in a restaurant it is not called Oklahoma toast. It is called Texas Toast.

SkyWatch on May 6, 2009 at 7:38 PM

This bill did absolutely nothing….n o t h i n g….except stick a ‘kick-me’ sign on Uncle Sugar’s back. I’d call that a victory.

Limerick on May 6, 2009 at 7:43 PM

As a Texas Longhorn, I’ve never been prouder of our neighbors north of the Red River. We’ll salute you at the Shootout and proceed to kick your butts…:) Hook ‘Em Okies.

bravecowboy on May 6, 2009 at 7:47 PM

I’m from Oklahoma. Henry is not a liberal dem, just a dem. He was elected because the conservative vote was split by the idiot independent Richardson, who is running in the next election. After what he did in the last elelction, I’m surprised anyone will vote for him in the next. We only have two dems – Boren and Henry. The rest are very conservative repubs.

We love OK. We don’t need more population. Sure we have low housing prices and taxes. However, if you come to live here, we will expect you to work like the rest of us – that’s harder than you have worked to date.

We also have good college and university sports. Oklahoma state universities are the retirement systems for prominent democrat poiticians. As soon as we get a big dem retiring, we have to create a new university for him to be president of.

We don’t get much fed gum money for Oklahoma. What we do get are sustainment funds for Tinker AFB, Vance AFB, Altus AFB, Ft Sill, and the Ammunition depot at McAlester. When politicals liat what funds we get, they include the figures for these places. Every once in a while, we will see an earmark form one of our congress critters. They are almost always for on-base improvements that the military can’t get through their bureacracy, very few go for citizen, business, or family consumption (a la Pennsylvania). We have turnpikes because the people can’t afford to pay for interstate type highways that just pass traffic through the state.

My land title goes back to the Lousiana Purchase. Yes we do have history. This territory was ceded to the Indian Nations, then stolden back again (must have been democrats that dun it.) We have the best state song in the entire country (based on a Lynn Riggs novel). As Aunt Eller said “We don’t say we’re better than anybody else, but we’ll be durned if we’re not just a good.” Stop calling us Hicks!

Old Country Boy on May 6, 2009 at 8:07 PM

I’ve got a hat the size of Oklahoma!

carbon_footprint on May 6, 2009 at 8:24 PM

BRING IT!

OkieDoc on May 6, 2009 at 8:32 PM

What’s the weather like in Oklahoma? Average price of housing?

Sounds like a lovely place to move to and leave the cesspool of Chicago/Illinois.

Knucklehead on May 6, 2009 at 6:04 PM

Knucklehead,
I am from Oklahoma and after having lived in 3 other states, I can honestly say that Oklahoma is the best.

The people are awesome. I fondly recall taking driver’s education (geez over 14 years ago now) and one of our assignments was to count how many cars traveled a particular road in our town. We lost count of how many people stopped to ask if we were ok and needed help. That’s Oklahoma.

The weather is pretty nice, much nicer than Indiana (where I was 2 years ago) especially if you like it HOT. It doesn’t snow much and there are really only three seasons: Summer, Football, and Christmas (and most people still say “Merry Christmas”). The best thing about the weather: Gary England.

I can’t say much for taxes (never owned a house while there) but I was told by my father that they were much lower than what we paid in Texas. The housing prices are phenomenal. I currently live in a college town just to the north of OK and I can buy a 800 sq ft house with 2 bd and 1 bath for $125,000. In many areas of Oklahoma, that $125,000 would buy a 1500 sq ft 3 bd 2 bath with some land. I can’t wait to go back!

Throw in one of the best colleges in the nation (Oklahoma State University of course), Eskimo Joe’s in Stillwater, Jake’s Bar-B-Q in Chickasha, great shopping in OKC and Tulsa, and clean air and blue skies and you don’t get much closer to heaven.

Sorry for the long post; I am a little homesick. :(

Dr. Conservative on May 6, 2009 at 8:39 PM

I notice that several people have spoken of states taking funds from the federal government, why shouldn’t they? The money the federal government is “giving” away came from the citizens of those states. The best thing the states could do would be to find a way to keep more of their citizens’ money in the state and reject “help” from D.C. I am sure that’s easier said then done on the state level as the individual. It is heartbreaking to think how much money we send to D.C. to support a departments and people that are more trouble then they are worth.

Cindy Munford on May 6, 2009 at 8:40 PM

carbon_footprint – Judging from your ego, you probably have. If your hat is really that big, it is more indicative of your ass. Now, go back to mama’s basement and amuse yourself.

Old Country Boy on May 6, 2009 at 8:42 PM

Oklahoma also has some of the nation’s toughest anti-illegal laws. I swear if OK wasn’t in the middle of nowhere I’d consider moving there.

SouthernGent on May 6, 2009 at 9:05 PM

Throw in one of the best colleges in the nation (Oklahoma State University of course), Eskimo Joe’s in Stillwater, Jake’s Bar-B-Q in Chickasha…

Forget Jakes and go to “Roy’s BBQ” next to Mazzios.
Chick also has USAO, tops in small colleges in the nation.
Beyond that, there are better bars in Tulsa for everything from micro-brews, native Oklahoma wine and the best music you’ll hear for free many nights of the month. We also have rich Indian Casinos (red man’s revenge)!

OkieDoc on May 6, 2009 at 9:08 PM

Always remember: that it was an agreement between the states, called THE CONSTITUTION, that created the federal government.
It wasn’t and isn’t the other way around.

Amendment X on May 6, 2009 at 9:28 PM

Yes, but those tea parties just are silly and don’t mean anything. Right!

AnninCA on May 6, 2009 at 9:30 PM

Always remember: that it was an agreement between the states, called THE CONSTITUTION, that created the federal government.
It wasn’t and isn’t the other way around.

Amendment X on May 6, 2009 at 9:28 PM

Damn straight.

Chaz706 on May 6, 2009 at 9:37 PM

What’s the weather like in Oklahoma? Average price of housing?

Sounds like a lovely place to move to and leave the cesspool of Chicago/Illinois.

Knucklehead on May 6, 2009 at 6:04 PM

Knucklehead-
I am an Oklahoman, and have lived here my whole life. My husband and I bought a house a couple of years ago that’s 1800 sq feet in OKC, in a really nice neighborhood, for 100K. Cost of living here is amazing, the people are great. This is a conservative state. For the most part people try to make it on their own without help from the government. And our unemployment rate is about 5% right now. Also, we have all four seasons, with summer, winter, spring, and fall weather. I’m telling everyone out there, this is a great place to live.

Trtle2001 on May 6, 2009 at 9:37 PM

COME ON TEXAS!!!

I’LL BE FIRST IN LINE TO GO FOR THIS. BHO CAN SHOVE IT UP HIS EVER LOVING ASS. WE NEED TO START PROTECTING OURSELVES FROM HIM AND HIS MINIONS!!!

Ltlgeneral64 on May 6, 2009 at 10:57 PM

A simple way to have fairer elections.

WashJeff on May 6, 2009 at 5:42 PM
You do realize you are now officially an Enemy of The One?

platypus on May 6, 2009 at 6:03 PM

No No not an enemy. The One may find this a great idea, But instead of getting a barcode from the voting both. He will tell us it would be better if we just had the barcode put on our body….say maybe on your hand or your forehead. He will explain that this way,no one will be able to commit voter fraud. He’ll explain how his barcode plan makes us all more safe and ahhh ummm more secure. He’ll tell us how it will help protect our children. After all if it saves just one child isnt it worth it?

Paco on May 6, 2009 at 11:00 PM

Spent some time learning artillery at Ft. Sill. Loved it out that way and north Texas, too. Not really as desolate as one might think…well, maybe out where Altus AFB is. The people seemed very friendly out in that part of the country.

Dr. ZhivBlago on May 6, 2009 at 11:12 PM

native Oklahoma wine OkieDoc on May 6, 2009 at 9:08 PM

My absolute favorite wine is from Stone Bluff Cellars in Haskell, OK. YUM! Too bad I can’t get it in KS :(

Dr. Conservative on May 6, 2009 at 11:41 PM

Oh man… when have we seen this actually happen in our lifetimes?

Brackus Caesar and our despicably reprobate Congress are going to either shit, or they’ll have to get off the pot.

I’m betting they’ll grunt, groan and push until they’re red in the face and breaking a sweat. Then they’ll dump on us a giant steaming coil of Barackus Caesar Government interventions and squelching of rights and libertys so sweeping and severe that it will make every other living dictator on Earth green with envy. I’m also betting that all the defeatist liberal sheeple and our in-the-tank MSM who endlessly ballyhoo’d over Bush’s actions will gulp down Barackus Caesar’s edicts without a whimper of protest and even declare how wonderful our glorious leader is when it goes down.

SilverStar830 on May 7, 2009 at 12:16 AM

For the first time in our state’s history, the GOP controls both houses of the legislature. In 2004, the GOP took over the state house for the first time in 80 years. In the 2008 election, the GOP took over the house. Oklahoma had the best showing for the Republican presidential ticket(65%)than any other state. Every county voted against Obama. I know this is long, but wanted to share it. Received it in an e-mail and don’t know the source:

“The state law passed an amendment to place the Ten Commandments on the front entrance to the state capitol. The feds in D.C., along with the ACLU said it would be a mistake. But this is a conservative state, based on Christian values….! Guess what…..We did it anyway!
We recently passed a law in the state to incarcerate all illegal immigrants, and ship them back to where they came from. They all scattered. The Federal Government and the ACLU said it would be a mistake. Guess what….we did it anyway.
We passed a law to include DNA samples from any and all illegals to the Oklahoma database, for criminal investigative purposes. Pelosi said it was unconstitutional Guess what….we did it anyway!
We passed a law declaring Oklahoma a sovereign state. More states are likely to follow.
The federal government has made bold steps to take away our guns. We passed a law confirming people in this state have the right to bear arms and transport them in their vehicles.
By the way, Obama does not like any of this. Guess what…who cares…we’re doing it anyway.”

With the GOP now in control for the first time, that’s the reason we are getting all these things done.
Sorry for the length of this – thought it was important to share. If we can do it here, it can be done everywhere the GOP is in control.

silvernana on May 7, 2009 at 2:00 AM

Real Clear Politics has two polls out: 60% are supportive of Hussein. 60% are NEGATIVE on Congress. 50% believe we are headed in “The Wrong Direction TM”. How can these polls have two opposing outcomes? What’s the difference between Hussein and Pelosi? I.e. Polls are BULLSHIT.

leftnomore on May 7, 2009 at 2:06 AM

I notice that several people have spoken of states taking funds from the federal government, why shouldn’t they? The money the federal government is “giving” away came from the citizens of those states. The best thing the states could do would be to find a way to keep more of their citizens’ money in the state and reject “help” from D.C. I am sure that’s easier said then done on the state level as the individual. It is heartbreaking to think how much money we send to D.C. to support a departments and people that are more trouble then they are worth.

Cindy Munford on May 6, 2009 at 8:40 PM

Bzzt, wrong on multiple counts.

1) Send a $1 to Washington, get back $0.22 in “benefits”. Stupid. You even outline this in your reply!

2) Currently, the “funds” that they are offering are going to have to be paid by you, your kids and your grandkids; it’s not just taxes you’ve paid – the feds are spending far more than they have taken in.

I heard that for each worker in the US of A that is 20 years old right now, they will be taxed an additonal $116,000 over their working lifetime in the form of increased taxes just to cover the interest on this massive “stimulus package”.

You still all for states taking this money Cindy?

electric-rascal on May 7, 2009 at 3:49 AM

silvernana on May 7, 2009 at 2:00 AM

Oklahoma sure isOK!

(from their license plates a few years back)

Go OK! SOONERS LEAD THE WAY!!

electric-rascal on May 7, 2009 at 3:52 AM

leftnomore on May 7, 2009 at 2:06 AM

Pollster: Do you support our new African American president or are you a fanatical right-wing racist tea bagging redneck?

Voter: Uhm, well I guess I support the president, sure why not.

Pollster: OK, now what about Nancy Pelosi, what do you think of her?

Voter: Don’t quite care for her.

angryed on May 7, 2009 at 7:24 AM

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