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		<title>By: The DNC New Math: When 1 Equals 3&#8230; Must Be Taking Math Pointers from Math-Deficient Katie Couric &#171; Frugal Café Blog Zone</title>
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		<dc:creator>The DNC New Math: When 1 Equals 3&#8230; Must Be Taking Math Pointers from Math-Deficient Katie Couric &#171; Frugal Café Blog Zone</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 May 2009 22:08:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Why Katie Couric Should Not Have Been Chosen to Become the New Anchor of CBS Evening News Hot Air: Obamateurism of the Day The Loud Talker: Tired of TurboTax [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Yet Another Trillion Dollars of Taxpayer Money&#8230; Gregg Warns That Obama&#8217;s Bailouts Will Bankrupt America &#171; Frugal Café Blog Zone</title>
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		<dc:creator>Yet Another Trillion Dollars of Taxpayer Money&#8230; Gregg Warns That Obama&#8217;s Bailouts Will Bankrupt America &#171; Frugal Café Blog Zone</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 May 2009 22:06:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Peace and Freedom Global Future: Geithner Makes Big Announcement With No Cameras Allowed Hot Air: Obamateurism of the Day Cheat-Seeking Missiles: The Critiques Are In: Geithner Bombs Peace and Freedom Global Future: [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Peace and Freedom Global Future: Geithner Makes Big Announcement With No Cameras Allowed Hot Air: Obamateurism of the Day Cheat-Seeking Missiles: The Critiques Are In: Geithner Bombs Peace and Freedom Global Future: [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Glenn Beck Does the Unthinkable: Asks What Law Permits the Government to Demand AIG Bonuses &#171; Frugal Café Blog Zone</title>
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		<dc:creator>Glenn Beck Does the Unthinkable: Asks What Law Permits the Government to Demand AIG Bonuses &#171; Frugal Café Blog Zone</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 May 2009 22:05:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] UPDATE: Video on Hot Air: Glenn Beck yells at Connecticut AG for 11 minutes over AIG bonuses and Obamateurism of the Day Fox News: Are Sen. Dodd&#8217;s AIG Actions Impeachable? The Daley Gator: The Audacity of Thuggery! [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] UPDATE: Video on Hot Air: Glenn Beck yells at Connecticut AG for 11 minutes over AIG bonuses and Obamateurism of the Day Fox News: Are Sen. Dodd&#8217;s AIG Actions Impeachable? The Daley Gator: The Audacity of Thuggery! [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Maybe Secret Codes? &#8216;Best &#38; Brightest&#8217; HHS Nominee Sebelius&#8217; Forgot Income Taxes, Campaign Donations &#171; Frugal Café Blog Zone</title>
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		<dc:creator>Maybe Secret Codes? &#8216;Best &#38; Brightest&#8217; HHS Nominee Sebelius&#8217; Forgot Income Taxes, Campaign Donations &#171; Frugal Café Blog Zone</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 May 2009 22:04:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] can’t count and Meet new HHS nominee Kathleen Sebelius — or rather, Kathleen Taxelius Hot Air: Obamateurism of the Day The Weekly Standard: HHS Nominee Sebelius Took $23,000 from Infamous Partial-Birth Abortionist CNN [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] can’t count and Meet new HHS nominee Kathleen Sebelius — or rather, Kathleen Taxelius Hot Air: Obamateurism of the Day The Weekly Standard: HHS Nominee Sebelius Took $23,000 from Infamous Partial-Birth Abortionist CNN [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Lady Sings the News: Ballad of Tim &#8216;Tax Cheat&#8217; Geithner &#171; Frugal Café Blog Zone</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lady Sings the News: Ballad of Tim &#8216;Tax Cheat&#8217; Geithner &#171; Frugal Café Blog Zone</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 May 2009 22:03:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Post - Economy Watch: Rep. Manzullo to Geithner: Your Plan Is &#8216;Radical&#8217; Hot Air: Obamateurism of the Day Elephants in the Bluegrass: B.O.: Tim&#8217;s Doing a Heckuva Job  Felix Salmon, New York Times: [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Post &#8211; Economy Watch: Rep. Manzullo to Geithner: Your Plan Is &#8216;Radical&#8217; Hot Air: Obamateurism of the Day Elephants in the Bluegrass: B.O.: Tim&#8217;s Doing a Heckuva Job  Felix Salmon, New York Times: [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Lying Treasury Secretary Tim Geithner = Doomed Pinocchio &#171; Frugal Café Blog Zone</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lying Treasury Secretary Tim Geithner = Doomed Pinocchio &#171; Frugal Café Blog Zone</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 May 2009 22:01:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] he lied to Americans: now says he told Dodd to put bonus provision into spending bill Hot Air: Obamateurism of the Day and Video: Congress, Geithner knew about bonuses on March 3rd Pirate&#8217;s Cove: What Did [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] he lied to Americans: now says he told Dodd to put bonus provision into spending bill Hot Air: Obamateurism of the Day and Video: Congress, Geithner knew about bonuses on March 3rd Pirate&#8217;s Cove: What Did [...]</p>
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		<title>By: webdemon</title>
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		<dc:creator>webdemon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 May 2009 20:48:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Maybe someone should explain to him why companies and individuals keep their money off shore.  The tax burden of bringing that money back to the states discourages people from reinvesting that money here at home.  If he would lower the tax rate, there would be more investment in American interests, rather than foreign ones.  Just a thought.  If he wants people to pay their taxes, he could at least make it less tedious, and a little more fair.  A little more sane,  And, just a smidge less oppressive.  I&#039;m just sayin.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Maybe someone should explain to him why companies and individuals keep their money off shore.  The tax burden of bringing that money back to the states discourages people from reinvesting that money here at home.  If he would lower the tax rate, there would be more investment in American interests, rather than foreign ones.  Just a thought.  If he wants people to pay their taxes, he could at least make it less tedious, and a little more fair.  A little more sane,  And, just a smidge less oppressive.  I&#8217;m just sayin.</p>
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		<title>By: shick</title>
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		<dc:creator>shick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 May 2009 19:22:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Isn&#039;t distraction grand?</description>
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		<title>By: kirkill</title>
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		<dc:creator>kirkill</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 May 2009 18:24:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Obama Comedy for you Christian Conservative on May 6, 2009 at 12:39 PM

&quot;Segway&#039;s inventor revealed plans to make a hybrid electric car powered by an engine which uses cow manure for fuel, and then use that engine to light Third World homes. Imagine generators that run on manure. Every time President Obama says he doesn&#039;t want to run private industry a third of the planet could be electrocuted by the power surge.&quot; --comedian Argus Hamilton</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Obama Comedy for you Christian Conservative on May 6, 2009 at 12:39 PM</p>
<p>&#8220;Segway&#8217;s inventor revealed plans to make a hybrid electric car powered by an engine which uses cow manure for fuel, and then use that engine to light Third World homes. Imagine generators that run on manure. Every time President Obama says he doesn&#8217;t want to run private industry a third of the planet could be electrocuted by the power surge.&#8221; &#8211;comedian Argus Hamilton</p>
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		<title>By: Christian Conservative</title>
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		<dc:creator>Christian Conservative</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 May 2009 16:39:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;Full blown hypocrisy right there!!!

capejasmine on May 6, 2009 at 11:06 AM&lt;/blockquote&gt;

But all the comedians say there is no humor in Obama.  Letterman is probably still showing Bush on his Great Moments in Presidential Speeches spots.  (Don&#039;t know since I quit watching his leftist drivel years ago.)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Full blown hypocrisy right there!!!</p>
<p>capejasmine on May 6, 2009 at 11:06 AM</p></blockquote>
<p>But all the comedians say there is no humor in Obama.  Letterman is probably still showing Bush on his Great Moments in Presidential Speeches spots.  (Don&#8217;t know since I quit watching his leftist drivel years ago.)</p>
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		<title>By: capejasmine</title>
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		<dc:creator>capejasmine</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 May 2009 15:06:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I find it galling, that Obama can stand there, and give speeches on taxes, with Geithner by his side, nodding in agreement.

Full blown hypocrisy right there!!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I find it galling, that Obama can stand there, and give speeches on taxes, with Geithner by his side, nodding in agreement.</p>
<p>Full blown hypocrisy right there!!!</p>
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		<title>By: rockmom</title>
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		<dc:creator>rockmom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 May 2009 15:05:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think we have a new definition of &lt;em&gt;chutzpah.&lt;/em&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think we have a new definition of <em>chutzpah.</em></p>
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		<title>By: cs89</title>
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		<dc:creator>cs89</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 May 2009 14:56:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Slightly OT, but the &quot;stimulus&quot; didn&#039;t help Caterpillar all that much.

http://jconline.com/article/20090506/BUSINESS/905060329

Laying off more employees, and going to &quot;rolling layoffs.&quot;  Think the WHPC will ask Obama or Gibbs about this?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Slightly OT, but the &#8220;stimulus&#8221; didn&#8217;t help Caterpillar all that much.</p>
<p><a href="http://jconline.com/article/20090506/BUSINESS/905060329" rel="nofollow">http://jconline.com/article/20090506/BUSINESS/905060329</a></p>
<p>Laying off more employees, and going to &#8220;rolling layoffs.&#8221;  Think the WHPC will ask Obama or Gibbs about this?</p>
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		<title>By: esblowfeld</title>
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		<dc:creator>esblowfeld</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 May 2009 14:55:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The first place to look is 
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General Electric Corp.
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They pay their foreign sub corps extra high proces for products sold in the USA as a way of funneling domestic profits offshore.
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The other trick is to overpay sub corps (100K / head) for engineers who work here for a two year hitch getting (25K) deposited back home in India. 
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This reduces domestic employment costs and moves profits offshore.
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They probably have many other similiar &quot;programs&quot; to reduce their US tax bill.
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The important factor is that corporations don&#039;t pay tax costs. Taxes have to be built into the price of the product.
It is just a back door method of imposing additional tyaxes on consumers. Unless consumers decide not to buy. 
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Just goes to show how Wash D.C. is brain dead.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The first place to look is<br />
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General Electric Corp.<br />
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They pay their foreign sub corps extra high proces for products sold in the USA as a way of funneling domestic profits offshore.<br />
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The other trick is to overpay sub corps (100K / head) for engineers who work here for a two year hitch getting (25K) deposited back home in India.<br />
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This reduces domestic employment costs and moves profits offshore.<br />
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They probably have many other similiar &#8220;programs&#8221; to reduce their US tax bill.<br />
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The important factor is that corporations don&#8217;t pay tax costs. Taxes have to be built into the price of the product.<br />
It is just a back door method of imposing additional tyaxes on consumers. Unless consumers decide not to buy.<br />
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Just goes to show how Wash D.C. is brain dead.</p>
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		<title>By: noblejones</title>
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		<dc:creator>noblejones</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 May 2009 14:54:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>e-pirate drooled:

&lt;blockquote&gt;We don’t get their tax money now, so then they treaten to leave?&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Then it shouldn&#039;t bother you, benny.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>e-pirate drooled:</p>
<blockquote><p>We don’t get their tax money now, so then they treaten to leave?</p></blockquote>
<p>Then it shouldn&#8217;t bother you, benny.</p>
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		<title>By: Christien</title>
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		<dc:creator>Christien</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 May 2009 14:44:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dems who, apparently, want government in every aspect of people&#039;s lives are the ones who aren&#039;t paying their fair share--100% of their income.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dems who, apparently, want government in every aspect of people&#8217;s lives are the ones who aren&#8217;t paying their fair share&#8211;100% of their income.</p>
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		<title>By: noblejones</title>
		<link>http://hotair.com/archives/2009/05/06/obamateurism-of-the-day-36/comment-page-1/#comment-2179624</link>
		<dc:creator>noblejones</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 May 2009 14:43:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;Did getalife come back as e-pirate?&lt;/blockquote&gt;

  . . . and benny shakar and a handful of others. Media Matters is getting real cheap with their high school aged thread breakers. They could afford better.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Did getalife come back as e-pirate?</p></blockquote>
<p>  . . . and benny shakar and a handful of others. Media Matters is getting real cheap with their high school aged thread breakers. They could afford better.</p>
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		<title>By: rayvet</title>
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		<dc:creator>rayvet</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 May 2009 14:40:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;US loses something like $100 billion yearly because US companies&quot;

First of all, it&#039;s only a loss if you had it in your hands in the first place, so you are wrong about &quot;losing&quot; the money.  Secondly, you are correct about corporations not paying taxes.  I &quot;have&quot; a veterinary corporation.  It hasn&#039;t paid any more taxes than my annual corporate renewal requires (something like $300).  However, and this is where education 101 failed you, my wife and I pay the taxes on the earning of the corporation.  Oh sure, we have &quot;tax shelters&quot;.  It&#039;s called profit sharing, health plan, charitable contributions etc., but we still pay all the taxes currently dictated by law as those tax shelters are legitimate.  Now, if my taxes get too high, I may decide to shut my corporation down and pursue other areas of interest.  If I do, 13 people are without a job, the local government as well as the Federal government will lose the taxes I collect from clients on over a million dollars a year, so where&#039;s the &quot;corporate greed&quot; showing up.  I&#039;m not sure if I could dumb it down anymore than that, but that&#039;s pretty much it in a nut shell. I guess if you were educated in a government school, it still may seem a little fuzzy huh?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;US loses something like $100 billion yearly because US companies&#8221;</p>
<p>First of all, it&#8217;s only a loss if you had it in your hands in the first place, so you are wrong about &#8220;losing&#8221; the money.  Secondly, you are correct about corporations not paying taxes.  I &#8220;have&#8221; a veterinary corporation.  It hasn&#8217;t paid any more taxes than my annual corporate renewal requires (something like $300).  However, and this is where education 101 failed you, my wife and I pay the taxes on the earning of the corporation.  Oh sure, we have &#8220;tax shelters&#8221;.  It&#8217;s called profit sharing, health plan, charitable contributions etc., but we still pay all the taxes currently dictated by law as those tax shelters are legitimate.  Now, if my taxes get too high, I may decide to shut my corporation down and pursue other areas of interest.  If I do, 13 people are without a job, the local government as well as the Federal government will lose the taxes I collect from clients on over a million dollars a year, so where&#8217;s the &#8220;corporate greed&#8221; showing up.  I&#8217;m not sure if I could dumb it down anymore than that, but that&#8217;s pretty much it in a nut shell. I guess if you were educated in a government school, it still may seem a little fuzzy huh?</p>
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		<title>By: noblejones</title>
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		<dc:creator>noblejones</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 May 2009 14:40:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>One really cool by-product of this and the wide open border with Mexico is the caravans of folks physically transporting cash out of the country to safe banks offshore. Dems clamp down on above board bank transfers so the dollars go all &quot;immigrant&quot; on them. 

Obama will end up building a wall around the country to keep the money in. Libs really don&#039;t get Karma, do they?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>One really cool by-product of this and the wide open border with Mexico is the caravans of folks physically transporting cash out of the country to safe banks offshore. Dems clamp down on above board bank transfers so the dollars go all &#8220;immigrant&#8221; on them. </p>
<p>Obama will end up building a wall around the country to keep the money in. Libs really don&#8217;t get Karma, do they?</p>
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		<title>By: Christian Conservative</title>
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		<dc:creator>Christian Conservative</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 May 2009 14:35:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Did getalife come back as e-pirate?</description>
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		<title>By: Badger40</title>
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		<dc:creator>Badger40</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 May 2009 14:21:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;Jason Coleman on May 6, 2009 at 9:17 AM&lt;/blockquote&gt;
Nice explanation. People like e-pirate are clueless to this concept.
It requires critical thinking skills. Something Americans are not required to do anymore.
Products that are produced in any business, whether it&#039;s a physical thing or a service, cost $$ to produce.
Not all businesses are able to pass on this cost to consumers, but many are.
In the beef business, if you are a producer, you cannot pass on the cost of raising a cow or calf onto the next guy-the feeder. The price we get for our product is set by the top guys-the packer. Since there is a monopoly in this sector that is being allowed to operate (without proper govt intervention), we are forced to receive what they offer through price manipulation in many cases &amp; we either accept it, or go out of business. 
But either way, the cost does get passed on to the consumer.
If you tax stuff-the consumer pays for that tax.
So when we all buy a burger, or a car, or a pencil-we the consumer are being taxed at a hugely un-proportional rate.
So the consumer is actually paying MORE than their fair share in taxes.
This is why the poor are largely affected by these taxes. Bcs they still have to buy stuff to survive &amp; everyday stuff gets taxed through these taxes.
Legal loopholes are what they are-LEGAL.
It is ILLEGAL activity the govt needs to be concerned about-and they aren&#039;t.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Jason Coleman on May 6, 2009 at 9:17 AM</p></blockquote>
<p>Nice explanation. People like e-pirate are clueless to this concept.<br />
It requires critical thinking skills. Something Americans are not required to do anymore.<br />
Products that are produced in any business, whether it&#8217;s a physical thing or a service, cost $$ to produce.<br />
Not all businesses are able to pass on this cost to consumers, but many are.<br />
In the beef business, if you are a producer, you cannot pass on the cost of raising a cow or calf onto the next guy-the feeder. The price we get for our product is set by the top guys-the packer. Since there is a monopoly in this sector that is being allowed to operate (without proper govt intervention), we are forced to receive what they offer through price manipulation in many cases &amp; we either accept it, or go out of business.<br />
But either way, the cost does get passed on to the consumer.<br />
If you tax stuff-the consumer pays for that tax.<br />
So when we all buy a burger, or a car, or a pencil-we the consumer are being taxed at a hugely un-proportional rate.<br />
So the consumer is actually paying MORE than their fair share in taxes.<br />
This is why the poor are largely affected by these taxes. Bcs they still have to buy stuff to survive &amp; everyday stuff gets taxed through these taxes.<br />
Legal loopholes are what they are-LEGAL.<br />
It is ILLEGAL activity the govt needs to be concerned about-and they aren&#8217;t.</p>
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		<title>By: garydt</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 06 May 2009 14:16:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Pirate,, you think all these big corporations are rich and screwing the poor? What about GM and Chrysler,,,, do you want to tax them so they go out of business and not pay any tax at all? Corporations also pass their tax bill down on to the consumer or did you not know that? Remember taxes are an expense for employers and they have to place that tax on their product to get their money back.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Pirate,, you think all these big corporations are rich and screwing the poor? What about GM and Chrysler,,,, do you want to tax them so they go out of business and not pay any tax at all? Corporations also pass their tax bill down on to the consumer or did you not know that? Remember taxes are an expense for employers and they have to place that tax on their product to get their money back.</p>
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		<title>By: tarpon</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 06 May 2009 13:49:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It was hysterical, a shout out to mobilize his thugs ...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It was hysterical, a shout out to mobilize his thugs &#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: mr.blacksheep</title>
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		<dc:creator>mr.blacksheep</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 May 2009 13:39:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;In the meantime, as Obama demonizes corporations and persons who are following the Law as it is written, as it stands today, look for more not less to head overseas, where they can depend on tax codes that are not re-written every session of their legislatures, or after every election of head of state. Stability encourages business growth. Witch hunts do the opposite. And those currently following the law as written will find that they will be held criminally liable for following the law…and that makes following the law insane.

coldwarrior on May 6, 2009 at 8:22 AM&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Absolutely.  This clown-like posturing by Oboingo is so hypocritical that it has now become obscene.  

One thing that needs to be clear: increasing corporate taxes, whether explicitly through the tax rate, or implicitly through elimination of &lt;em&gt;legal&lt;/em&gt; arrangements that reduce net tax, &lt;strong&gt;destroys jobs and dissipates wealth&lt;/strong&gt;.  

Why are so many so anxious to tax the hell out of corporations, when those corporations are actually &lt;em&gt;productive assets&lt;/em&gt; held in no small measure by &lt;strong&gt;everyday people who have money invested in retirement accounts&lt;/strong&gt;?  

This notion that corporations are owned solely by cigar-smoking, chauffeur-driven bigwigs is early-20th-century peasant politics, and has been turned entirely on its head.  The Demoncraps are the elitists, the billionaires who know &lt;em&gt;jack&lt;/em&gt; about the price of groceries or the appalling education our kids are getting, and who advocate inheritance taxes when they themselves have their money hidden outside the reach of the tax laws (George Soros comes to mind). The regular folks are stuck putting their money in their IRAs, and watching government bunglers/burglars, clueless at best, malevolent at worst, do everything in their power to destroy the retirement plans that the (admittedly shrinking) majority of Americans have worked so hard to build for themselves.

Time to stop this nonsense.  Vote out your incumbent unless they have a clear record of acting in the interest of &lt;em&gt;you and your country&lt;/em&gt;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>In the meantime, as Obama demonizes corporations and persons who are following the Law as it is written, as it stands today, look for more not less to head overseas, where they can depend on tax codes that are not re-written every session of their legislatures, or after every election of head of state. Stability encourages business growth. Witch hunts do the opposite. And those currently following the law as written will find that they will be held criminally liable for following the law…and that makes following the law insane.</p>
<p>coldwarrior on May 6, 2009 at 8:22 AM</p></blockquote>
<p>Absolutely.  This clown-like posturing by Oboingo is so hypocritical that it has now become obscene.  </p>
<p>One thing that needs to be clear: increasing corporate taxes, whether explicitly through the tax rate, or implicitly through elimination of <em>legal</em> arrangements that reduce net tax, <strong>destroys jobs and dissipates wealth</strong>.  </p>
<p>Why are so many so anxious to tax the hell out of corporations, when those corporations are actually <em>productive assets</em> held in no small measure by <strong>everyday people who have money invested in retirement accounts</strong>?  </p>
<p>This notion that corporations are owned solely by cigar-smoking, chauffeur-driven bigwigs is early-20th-century peasant politics, and has been turned entirely on its head.  The Demoncraps are the elitists, the billionaires who know <em>jack</em> about the price of groceries or the appalling education our kids are getting, and who advocate inheritance taxes when they themselves have their money hidden outside the reach of the tax laws (George Soros comes to mind). The regular folks are stuck putting their money in their IRAs, and watching government bunglers/burglars, clueless at best, malevolent at worst, do everything in their power to destroy the retirement plans that the (admittedly shrinking) majority of Americans have worked so hard to build for themselves.</p>
<p>Time to stop this nonsense.  Vote out your incumbent unless they have a clear record of acting in the interest of <em>you and your country</em>.</p>
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		<title>By: AZCoyote</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 06 May 2009 13:37:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;A laughable concept.

We don’t get their tax money now, so then they treaten to leave?

e-pirate on May 6, 2009 at 8:29 AM&lt;/blockquote&gt;

We get plenty of their money now, but apparently you and Obama won&#039;t be satisfied until we take it all.  And raising taxes on corporations even higher than they are now will result in more than just threats to leave.  Businesses &lt;em&gt;will&lt;/em&gt; leave the U.S., and they&#039;ll take the jobs they create here with them when they re-locate to more tax-friendly locations overseas.   That will mean not only fewer businesses to tax here, but fewer working Americans to tax as well.  But hey, just keep spewing your idiot liberal talking points about &quot;evil&quot; corporations and how tough the entitlement classes have it here in the U.S. -- trying to survive with just their food stamps, welfare payments, public housing, taxpayer-funded medical care, taxpayer-provided cell phones, etc.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>A laughable concept.</p>
<p>We don’t get their tax money now, so then they treaten to leave?</p>
<p>e-pirate on May 6, 2009 at 8:29 AM</p></blockquote>
<p>We get plenty of their money now, but apparently you and Obama won&#8217;t be satisfied until we take it all.  And raising taxes on corporations even higher than they are now will result in more than just threats to leave.  Businesses <em>will</em> leave the U.S., and they&#8217;ll take the jobs they create here with them when they re-locate to more tax-friendly locations overseas.   That will mean not only fewer businesses to tax here, but fewer working Americans to tax as well.  But hey, just keep spewing your idiot liberal talking points about &#8220;evil&#8221; corporations and how tough the entitlement classes have it here in the U.S. &#8212; trying to survive with just their food stamps, welfare payments, public housing, taxpayer-funded medical care, taxpayer-provided cell phones, etc.</p>
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