Obama to force Israel to give up nukes?

posted at 9:29 am on May 6, 2009 by Ed Morrissey

The Washington Times reports that Barack Obama may counter demands from Israel to confront Iran over their nuclear program by confronting Israel over theirs.  Eli Lake has the exclusive on the Obama administration’s strategy to force Israel under the umbrella of the non-proliferation treaty, apparently as a condition to getting Iran to surrender their nukes.  The effort will include India and Pakistan, and comes from a 2006 Saudi peace plan that would leave Israel at the mercy of the armies surrounding the state:

President Obama’s efforts to curb the spread of nuclear weapons threaten to expose and derail a 40-year-old secret U.S. agreement to shield Israel’s nuclear weapons from international scrutiny, former and current U.S. and Israeli officials and nuclear specialists say.

The issue will likely come to a head when Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu meets with Mr. Obama on May 18 in Washington. Mr. Netanyahu is expected to seek assurances from Mr. Obama that he will uphold the U.S. commitment and will not trade Israeli nuclear concessions for Iranian ones.

Assistant Secretary of State Rose Gottemoeller, speaking Tuesday at a U.N. meeting on the nuclear Non-Proliferation Treaty (NPT), said Israel should join the treaty, which would require Israel to declare and relinquish its nuclear arsenal.

Gottemoeller has a track record of demanding Israeli disarmament:

However, Ms. Gottemoeller endorsed the concept of a nuclear-free Middle East in a 2005 paper that she co-authored, “Universal Compliance: A Strategy for Nuclear Security.”

“Instead of defensively trying to ignore Israels nuclear status, the United States and Israel should proactively call for regional dialogue to specify the conditions necessary to achieve a zone free of nuclear, chemical, and biological weapons,” she wrote.

The paper recommends that Israel take steps to disarm in exchange for its neighbors getting rid of chemical and biological weapons programs as well as Iran forgoing uranium enrichment.

The Obama administration appointed Gottemoeller, fully cognizant of her thinking on this issue. One has to assume that her appointment to the senior position at State constitutes an endorsement of those positions.  It wouldn’t be the most radical thinking about Israel from this administration; Samantha Powers, who works between Secretary of State Hillary Clinton and UN Ambassador Susan Rice, once called for a Western occupation of Israel and forced disarmament of their entire army.

Gottemoeller’s speech had to have been cleared by the Obama administration, and so appears to represent their foreign-policy position.  The Bush administration and its predecessors handled the situation more tactfully, supporting a “nuclear-free Middle East” without naming names.  Why?  The position of Israel in the Middle East is unique.  They are not just simply another nation among many.  They had been the one successful continuous democracy in that region, save Turkey, and quite obviously surrounded by nations explicitly threatening to annihilate them.  Israel had to develop a deterrent that would keep a nation of 5 million people alive among 100 million enemies.

Over the years, some of those neighbors have moderated their stance somewhat towards Israel; Egypt and Jordan have diplomatic relations with Israel, but in Egypt’s case only because Washington pays them to do it.  None of the rest of the nations in that region even recognize Israel’s existence, and two of them — Syria and Iran — have a long-running proxy war of terror running against Israel.  Under those conditions, Israel can be forgiven for thinking that a deterrent is still a damned good idea.

Besides, the Iranian nuclear program threatens the US as well.  We want to stop Iran from building nukes to keep them out of the hands of terrorists, and not just those aimed at Israel.  They don’t call us the Great Satan out of respect, after all, and Iranian leadership has been just as annihilationist towards America as it has been towards Israel.  Instead of disarming our allies, maybe we should just concentrate on disarming our enemies.


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Obama’s promises have expiration dates.

diogenes on May 6, 2009 at 6:34 PM

Obama’s promises have expiration dates.

diogenes on May 6, 2009 at 6:34 PM

As this whole country is finding out. The only ones that don’t are his promises to the scum unions and ACORN.

Upstater85 on May 6, 2009 at 6:36 PM

This does not sit well with me at all, but given what we have in the White House, not surprising. Maybe The One will want to give our nuke codes to terrorists after he lets them out of gitmo and settles them in the states.

jdawg on May 6, 2009 at 6:55 PM

Isreal is like Texas with nukes. Don’t F with them.

johnnyU on May 6, 2009 at 7:06 PM

This belongs in Mad magazine. As if Bambi could get Israel’s surrounding countries to give up anything, let alone Israel to disarm.
Obama is a total imbecile.

Geronimo on May 6, 2009 at 7:09 PM

Can they? 3.5 years from now Iran may very well have nuclear weapons. It wouldn’t surprise me at all if Obama told Israel that if they act against Iran without US permission he will bring the hammer down on them.

ProfessorMiao on May 6, 2009 at 5:22 PM

You are giving Iran way to much credit. You don’t understand, when the nuclear scientists in Iran actually make a working bomb then they will probably be killed. Most are held in a hostage like state anyway. And Obama could do nothing. If he acted in a rougish way then he would hell to pay. I would doubt that our military would attack Israel. Look at the lefts reaction to the legal wars we have fought. What makes you think they would give a green light to Obama to become Hitler .ver2 ???

izoneguy on May 6, 2009 at 6:05 PM

I wasn’t thinking of a US military attack when I said ‘bring the hammer down’, but of things like cutting off all military and other aid, no supporting them in the UN, joining boycotts, and that sort of stuff. The loss of military aid and access to American military technology would be a serious blow to Israel’s ability to defend itself.

ProfessorMiao on May 6, 2009 at 7:10 PM

Assistant Secretary of State Rose Gottemoeller, speaking Tuesday at a U.N. meeting on the nuclear Non-Proliferation Treaty (NPT), said Israel should join the treaty, which would require Israel to declare and relinquish its nuclear arsenal.

It doesn’t seem good for the the Americans’ rulers to make the Israelis’ rulers desperate. Nevertheless, if they choose to do it, I expect to enjoy watching.

Kralizec on May 6, 2009 at 7:13 PM

I wasn’t thinking of a US military attack when I said ‘bring the hammer down’, but of things like cutting off all military and other aid, no supporting them in the UN, joining boycotts, and that sort of stuff. The loss of military aid and access to American military technology would be a serious blow to Israel’s ability to defend itself.

ProfessorMiao on May 6, 2009 at 7:10 PM

I agree but the UN thing…the UN is useless and counterproductive anyway.
They have no teeth and I doubt UN troops would want to tangle with the IDF.
Israel has it’s own robust military industrial complex and has been building up in the Bush years for this day. Of course US support would help but losing it won’t make Israel give-up it’s nukes.

izoneguy on May 6, 2009 at 7:16 PM

If disarming worked so well, why shouldn’t our police forces all across the nation just do the same??? Every one from the city cop to the NYPD and Secret Service?? Maybe all the cops in New York could just hold a city meeting with all the thugs and gang members and come to an agreement that everyone would just disarm by 12 noon the next day. The NYPD could destroy all their firearms,, all the SWAT teams could come out and let steamrollers crush every gun law enforcement has and I am certain this act of courage would be replicated by all the gangs across the cities. Then we could all hold hands and sing a song.
See?? this is why there is crime in America! The cops have guns!!

JellyToast on May 6, 2009 at 7:18 PM

Israel has it’s own robust military industrial complex and has been building up in the Bush years for this day. Of course US support would help but losing it won’t make Israel give-up it’s nukes.

izoneguy on May 6, 2009 at 7:16 PM

But where would the IDF be if the US refused to supply them with parts to maintain their current fleet of aircraft? Or to sell them new aircraft in the future? Who do you think they buy their bombs from?

ProfessorMiao on May 6, 2009 at 7:44 PM

…Obama in the White House…Clinton at State…what could go wrong?

…keeps it up, the Israelis send a nuke wailing into Michele O’s shoe closet.

…then, they can say, “See! We don’t have any nukes…anymore….”

Puritan1648 on May 6, 2009 at 7:45 PM

Isreal is like Texas with nukes. Don’t F with them.

johnnyU on May 6, 2009 at 7:06 PM

…no…if Texas had nukes, we’d nuke Oklahoma…damned Sooners….

Puritan1648 on May 6, 2009 at 7:47 PM

Anyone still doubt that Obama is the Anti-Christ???

doriangrey on May 6, 2009 at 8:01 PM

Israel has a formidable army, financed by us, they need not worry about losing their nuclear arsenal.

True_King on May 6, 2009 at 8:09 PM

But where would the IDF be if the US refused to supply them with parts to maintain their current fleet of aircraft? Or to sell them new aircraft in the future? Who do you think they buy their bombs from?

ProfessorMiao on May 6, 2009 at 7:44 PM

Israel is re-thinking it’s plans for the F-35 over Costs & technology concerns.
Israel has munition plants all over the world. As a matter of fact, the US had to buy ammo from Israel a few years back.

Excerpt from the Independent – Sunday, 25 September 2005
“US forces have fired so many bullets in Iraq and Afghanistan – an estimated 250,000 for every insurgent killed – that American ammunition-makers cannot keep up with demand. As a result the US is having to import supplies from Israel.
(snip)
The GAO report notes that the three US government-owned, contractor-operated plants that produce small- and medium-calibre ammunition were built in 1941.
(snip)
Though millions of dollars have been spent on upgrading the facilities, they remain unable to meet current munitions needs in their current state. “The government-owned plant producing small-calibre ammunition cannot meet the increased requirements, even with modernisation efforts,” said the report…
(snip)
A report in Manufacturing & Technology News said that the Pentagon eventually found two producers capable of meeting its requirements. One of these was the US firm Olin-Winchester.

The other was Israel Military Industries, an Israeli ammunition manufacturer linked to the Israeli government, which produces the bulk of weapons and ordnance for the Israeli Defence Force.

The Pentagon reportedly bought 313 million rounds of 5.56mm, 7.62mm and 50-calibre ammunition last year and paid $10m (about £5.5m) more than it would have cost for it to produce the ammunition at its own facilities.

END

So, the way Obama is gutting the Pentagon I would worry about America being ready to protect itself. Israel will be fine because they are on the verge of blowing off Obama.

izoneguy on May 6, 2009 at 8:12 PM

Israel has a formidable army, financed by us, they need not worry about losing their nuclear arsenal.

True_King on May 6, 2009 at 8:09 PM

I’m pretty disgusted with these jacka$$ comments about how Israel sucks the U.S. dry of money for their army. First of all, its for their defense. Secondly, Israel gets LOANS that it pays back. And finally, and most importantly, its NOT a one-way relationship. The U.S. gets its money’s worth and MORE:

Alright, the truth is the relationship between the U.S. and Israel is a two-way partnership. For example, in 1952, as the Cold War got started, U.S. Army Chief of Staff, Omar Bradley, called for the integration of Israel, which was only four years old, into the Mediterranean basin area in light of the country’s location and unique capability.

In 1967, Israel defeated a radical Arab pro-Soviet theater offensive, which threatened to bring about the collapse of a pro-American Arab regime in the region, disrupt oil supplies, and thus severely undermine the American standard of living. The U.S. gained valuable military information from an analysis of the Israeli-captured Soviet equipment, including SAM 2, SAM 12, Mig 21 aircraft, Soviet T54 battle tanks. In fact, Israel gave an entire squadron of Mig 21’s to the United States, which was dubbed the “Top Gun Squadron” and was used by the U.S. Air Force and naval forces for training purposes.

Since 1967, Israel [has] transferred captured Soviet weaponry systems to the United States Pentagon after every conflict: ‘67, ‘67-’70, ‘73, ‘82, 1990. They even transferred SCUD remnants from the Gulf War that had been fired on Israel, and the 2006 Hezbullah war against Israel, where they transferred missile components supplied by Iran, to the United States.

In the 1967-’70 thousand day War of Attrition, The Israeli armed forces, armed with American aircraft successfully defeated a Soviet-suppplied air defense system, pointing out the deficiencies in Soviet air defense doctrine to U.S. defense planners. Israel shared captured military equipment, including a P2 radar, [for] which they stormed an island, Green Island, dismantled this two-ton radar and had it helicoptered, airlifted out, off the island, back to Israeli lines, and then they turned it over to the United States.


In 1970, Israel brought about the withdrawal of Syrian forces from Jordan, at a time when the U.S. was tied up by wars in Viet Nam, Laos and Cambodia, thus preventing the fall of the pro-American Hashemite regime and the installation of a pro-Soviet, radical Palestinian terrorist regime.

In 1973, thanks to U.S. resupply, but without U.S. forces, Israel defeated Soviet-trained and equipped Egyptian and Syrian forces. Israel again shared captured Soviet equipment, including battle tanks, with the U.S. Israel emerged as the only reliable ally, where U.S. troops could land, where U.S. equipment can be prepositioned, where the U.S. has friendly port facilities in Haifa and Ashdod, in the entire Middle East region. This too has saved the United States billions of dollars. And the list goes on.


In the 1970’s, Joseph Cisco, a former U.S. assistant secretary of state, assistant to Secretary of State Henry Kissinger during the latter’s “Shuttle Diplomacy,” told the Israeli author and military expert, and adviser to Menachem Begin, Shmuel Katz, quote, “I want to assure you Mr. Katz, that if we were not getting full value for our money, you would not get a cent from us,” end of quote. So this is a kind of off-handed manner in which they say, yes, the United States is benefitting from what they get from Israel.

In 1981 Israel bombed the Iraqi nuclear reactor at Osirak, delaying Saddam Hussein’s quest for nuclear weapons. It thus provided the United States with an option of engaging in conventional wars with Iraq in 1991, when they liberated Kuwait, and in 2003. Just imagine if Saddam had the bomb and we went to liberate Kuwait, and in fact the past vice-president of the United States, Dick Cheney, [had] a photo in his office, I’m sure he took it with him, of the bombed out Iraqi reactor, to remind him of this invaluable service that Israel did for the Free World, not just for Israel.


The vice-president of General Dynamics [Corp.], which produces the F16 fighter jet, has stated that Israel is responsible for 600, that’s six-zero-zero, improvements in the plane’s systems, modified by Israel to make the plane much better, and it is estimated to be worth, these modifications, billions of dollars, which spared dozens of research and development years for General Dynamics.


In 1982 Israel destroyed Soviet anti-aircraft batteries in Lebanon that were considered immune to American weapons. Israel promptly shared that operation’s lessons, estimated to be worth billions of dollars, with the United States.


Another item: Former Secretary of State and NATO commander Alexander Haig has stated that he is pro-Israeli because Israel is the largest Ameican aircraft carrier in the world, that [it] cannot be sunk, does not carry even one American soldier and is located in a critical region for American national security.


Next: During the first Gulf War, in 1991, Israel provided invaluable intelligence, an umbrella of air cover for military cargo, and had personnel planted in the Iraqi desert to pick up downed American pilots.

Furthermore, General George Keegan, former head of the United States Air Force intelligence division, had publicly declared, quote, that “Israel is worth five CIA’s,” end of quote. He further stated that between 1974 and 1990, Israel received $18.3 billion in U.S. military grants. During the same period Israel provided the U.S. with $50 to $80 billion in intelligence, research and development savings, and Soviet weapons systems captured and transferred by Israel to the United States. In 2005 Israel provided America with the world’s most extensive experience in homeland defense in warfare against suicide bombers and car bombs. American soldiers trained in IDF facilities and Israeli-made drones fly above the Sunni triangle in Iraq as well as Afghanistan, providing U.S. Marines with vital intelligence.

In September, 2007, the Israeli Air Force destroyed a Syrian/North Korean nuclear plant, extending the U.S.’s strategic arm. It provided the U.S. with vital information on Russian air defense systems, which are also employed by Iran. It bolstetred the U.S. posture of deterrence and refuted the claim that U.S.-Israel relations have been shaped by political expediency.

In 2009 Israel shared with the United States its battle-tested experience in combatting Palestinian and Hezbullah terrorism, which are the role models of anti-U.S. Islamic terrorism in Iraq and Afghanistan, contrary to what the current administration labels as “overseas manmade disasters.”

The U.S. GI’s benefit from Israel’s battle tactics against car bombs, improvised explosive devices, and homicide bombing. An Israeli-like ally in the Persian Gulf would have spared the need to dispatch U.S. troops to Iraq, Kuwait and Saudi Arabia, and unfortunately there is no other country. Israel has relayed to the United States, lessons of battle during the Cold War, Soviet military doctrine and counterterrorism, including aircraft security, homicide/suicide bombing, which reduce American lossses in Iraq and Afghanistan, prevent attacks on U.S. soil, upgrade American weapons, and contribute to the U.S. economy. Without Israel, the U.S. would have been forced to deploy tens of thousands of American troops in the Eastern Mediterranean basin at a cost of billions of dollars a year.

Senator Daniel Inouye [D-Hawaii] has recently, well a few years back, 2005, argued: “Israeli information regarding Soviet arms saved the U.S. billions of dollars. The contribution made by Israel’s intelligence to the United States is greater than that provided by all the other NATO allies of the United States combined,” said Senator Inouye.

Israel’s utilization of American arms guarantees its existence, but at the same time, it gives the U.S. military industries, such as Boeing and General Dynamics, a competitive edge comared to European industries…while also…boosting American military production, producing American jobs and improving America’s national security.

Japan and South Korea, for example, preferred the Hawkeye spyplane and the MD500 chopper, both purchased and upgraded by Israel, over comparable British and French aircraft.


The American industries want the U.S. aid to Israel to continue. The bulk of that $1.8 billion in U.S. aid to Israel must be spent in the United States. That provides jobs for some 50,000 U.S. workers. Virtually all of the $1.2 billion in annual economic aid goes for repayment of debt to the United States, incurred from military purchases going back many years. This debt is now close to being liquidated, contrary to what some of our other allies still owe us. Don’t worry. The present administration wants to lend money to Cuba, which nobody in the world wants to loan money to.

Innovative Israeli technologies have a similar effect on civilian and computer related industries and agricultural industries, which view Israel as a successful research and development model. Members of the Congress, then Vice-President Cheney and [former] Secretary of Defense Rumsfeld are aware of Israel’s unique contribution to our interest. But they all wonder why post-1993 Israel doesn’t use its impressive contribution as leverage, in sharp contrast to pre-1993 Israel. And that’s because the leftist government just wanted to show that they could make peace with the Arab terrorists that want to kill them.

To conclude, what does Israel do for the United States? In contrast to our commitments to South Korea, Japan, Germany and other parts of the world, not a single American service person needs to be stationed in Israel. Considering that the cost of one service person, per year, including backup and infrastructure, is estimated to be about $200,000 per year, and assuming a minimum contingent of 25,000 troops, and we have much more in many of these places, the cost savings to the United States, on that score alone, are on the order of $5 billion a year. If anyone tells you Israel is a drain and we’re just pouring money into it and get nothing, tell them to take another swig of Koolaid and put their head back in the sand, because they don’t know the reality.

No other ally has done as much or sacrificed as much since the Cold War. Anyone who says otherwise is worse than Hitler.

Andy in Agoura Hills on May 6, 2009 at 8:26 PM

Andy in Agoura Hills on May 6, 2009 at 8:26 PM

Thank you for posting that. Some people need such information for justifying continued support for Israel.

The thing is though, friends don’t let friends die in genocide.

We may have disagreements from time to time, but Israel is a shining light of freedom in the Middle East, an ally, and a very close and dear friend.

Loxodonta on May 6, 2009 at 8:57 PM

Andy in Agoura Hills on May 6, 2009 at 8:26 PM

well done, Andy. “True_King” has been posting antisemitic lies every chance he gets. Good to see him decisively nailed – facts are not his friends.

runner on May 6, 2009 at 9:07 PM

Will Michelle pull “O”s ball from the nightstand and let him wear then when he meets Netanyahu? He’ll need’em.

If Obama tells Israel to disarm, he will likely be told to go organize some other community. Israel will be OK. They build their own tanks, what they do have of ours, they’ve improved. They build great firearms, make great ammo.

If Obama cuts them off, he’ll cut his own throat. He’ll loose the Jewish vote, loose the BIG Jewish donors, he can ill afford it. Jews may be big libs, why? I have no clue, given the history of Fascism and Jewry. That said, the donors are big supporters of Israel.

Obama is going to have his nuts shoved up his ass. Unfortunately for him, ACORN has no base in Israel.

Face it, most of the world knows that our leader is as weak as puppy shit, he plays tough at home, but will blow any tin pot dictator that comes his way. YEAH AMERICA!!!

Europe laughs, South America laughs, Islam laughs, soon will Israel, what a weak stick.

At home, people are afraid of the man, that is the way he wants it, he’s a thug with a velvet tongue, and he knows it.

I stand with Doctor King, your color matters not, your character on the other hand…

M-14 2go on May 6, 2009 at 9:07 PM

Great post Andy! is there a link available?

journeyintothewhirlwind on May 6, 2009 at 9:24 PM

I will not weaponize space!” Obama proclaimed during his smug campaign for an Office his is unfit to hold, ~forgetting that the Chicoms already did.

Barry the Childish babbles onward.

profitsbeard on May 6, 2009 at 9:28 PM

No other ally has done as much or sacrificed as much since the Cold War. Anyone who says otherwise is worse than Hitler.

Andy in Agoura Hills on May 6, 2009 at 8:26 PM

Great post, I am pretty sure Obama is unaware of all of these facts.
Bibi should enlighten the Zero to some of these facts. Maybe as a gift
Bibi should present Zero with some Israeli made ammo.

izoneguy on May 6, 2009 at 9:40 PM

I will not weaponize space!” Obama proclaimed during his smug campaign for an Office his is unfit to hold, ~forgetting that the Chicoms already did.

profitsbeard on May 6, 2009 at 9:28 PM

This reminded me of an old Fritz Mondale campaign ad, chastizing Reagan for wanting to take war into space instead of keeping it on the Earth. The left just keeps getting dumber. They’re lucky that the US public seems to be following them into the single-digit IQ range.

progressoverpeace on May 6, 2009 at 9:46 PM

runner on May 6, 2009 at 9:07 PM

Yeah, there’s been a LOT of anti-semitic pr-cks posting here. (And yeah, anti-Israel = anti-semitic) I’ve beheaded most of them. The one a$$hole that just won’t go away though is Nonfactor. Of course, I think he drank WAAAAAAAAY too much kool-aid these past 8 years.

The material for that post came from Israpundit.com.

Andy in Agoura Hills on May 6, 2009 at 9:54 PM

Gee………..maybe nit wit McCain should have run those ads showing Rev. Wright after all………

Cinday Blackburn on May 6, 2009 at 10:07 PM

Isreal get rid of nukes? OMG. What is this guy smoking?
It ain’t gonna happen. What’s with this moron? Pick something and follow it to the end you idiot intead of jumping and scrweing up everything in sight. Isreal won’t screw around and if Bomma puts pressure on Isreal, Isreals enemies will get it sooner than later. He’d better butt out if he’s not going to help the situation for them. eh, my .02

johnnyU on May 6, 2009 at 10:13 PM

But where would the IDF be if the US refused to supply them with parts to maintain their current fleet of aircraft? Or to sell them new aircraft in the future? Who do you think they buy their bombs from?

ProfessorMiao on May 6, 2009 at 7:44 PM

The first thing you learn in the Israeli army, is to improvise. If there’s no toaster use an iron, if your favorite show in on but there’s no reception, connect the TV to that big satellite dish on the roof, the one we use to spy on Syria.

I believe the Israelis will manage; all they need are few old cars and duck tape.

Michelle Dubois on May 6, 2009 at 10:47 PM

Thanks Andy. I found the article.
http://www.israpundit.com/2008/?p=12828

journeyintothewhirlwind on May 6, 2009 at 10:51 PM

duck = duct

Michelle Dubois on May 6, 2009 at 10:56 PM

Over the past years, Israel has been an American ally. The Taliban is willing to get the nukes from Pakistan and he wants Israel to give up their nukes. If BO doesn’t back up PM Netanyahu, Israel will do its job w/o help of U.S.

Bigkram89 on May 6, 2009 at 11:08 PM

Israel, I can help you on this one; Tell Obama to Fuk off.

Cybergeezer on May 6, 2009 at 11:11 PM

Anyone still doubt that Obama is the Anti-Christ???

doriangrey on May 6, 2009 at 8:01 PM

I’ve been saying that since last year. I have no faith he will protect us when all hell is about to break loose. Literally.

Geronimo on May 6, 2009 at 11:16 PM

The day the US begins alienating Israel is the day she asks for another World War.

Who in hell is driving this fail bus?

AES on May 6, 2009 at 11:20 PM

Yes Israel give up your nukes!
Barry will protect you! Well,at least as far as he is willing to protect Poland and The Czech Republic!(2 Mins)

He will defend you all the way to the point where his approval ratings start to drop!

Trust in The One Israel. Look at how he has already solved North Korea, Afghanistan, Pakistan, Iraq, Darfur, Somalia.

He will protect you all the way to the next election cycle where you will then be deamed a political albatros and you will be “Thrown under the bus”!

primer on May 6, 2009 at 11:48 PM

Besides, the Iranian nuclear program threatens the US as well

The TNRC? or… Or the one that our government said is aok?

popularpeoplesfront on May 6, 2009 at 11:50 PM

But where would the IDF be if the US refused to supply them with parts to maintain their current fleet of aircraft? Or to sell them new aircraft in the future? Who do you think they buy their bombs from?

ProfessorMiao on May 6, 2009 at 7:44 PM

Russia? China? What, you suddenly think we are the only arms supplier in the world?

Romeo13 on May 7, 2009 at 12:17 AM

Wow. Obama is full-scale nuts .

Yep.

An Israel without nukes is a world without Israel. Is that what B-HO wants?

Mojave Mark on May 7, 2009 at 12:25 AM

what a joke.

I would rather have Netanyahu as my pres than this kid.

ask Ben Gurion .. They will never be victims again.

We are though..

amend2 on May 7, 2009 at 12:37 AM

What happens if Israel and Iran agree to this? Is Obama ready to trust a bunch of Mullahs in Iran? You can’t un-invent nuclear weapons. Frankly, Israel would have to be a total fool to agree to this and there is no way they will, Obama should know this. This is naive foreign policy in the extreme. On the international stage, Obama is like a rookie who plays poker with his cards face up and always folds when he has the winning hand.

Dollayo on May 7, 2009 at 12:39 AM

Yeah, those racist Israelis! Hussein’s gonna take their bombs away until they can play nice with A-Rabs.

THIS I have to see– from Heaven’s gate.

leftnomore on May 7, 2009 at 1:59 AM

Way to go Andy thx!

I’d like to update that information since 2005-06 with a critical detail, re the Iraqi insurgency. The USA spent untold billions the last few years totally re-tooling the entire US mobile & armored sections of its military to protect against IEDs which were slaughtering US GIs, the #1 threat to American service-mens’ lives the last 4-5 years, 70% of all Iraq casualties were due to IEDs.

The MRAP, the family of vehicles now used by the USA as the basis for the entire Army and now Marines which massively reduced lives lost – That armor & reactive armor is developed by Israel, and we have delivered thousands of MRAP sets to protect American GIs in their wheels, because we feel the same way about US soldiers as Israeli ones – one US soldier lost is TOO MANY.

saus on May 7, 2009 at 4:26 AM

Ok, putting on tin-foil hat.

What if Obama knows that Israel won’t agree to give up their nukes, and intends to use that fact to do nothing vis-a-vis Iran?

OldEnglish on May 7, 2009 at 5:09 AM

scottm on May 6, 2009 at 10:11 AM

Sorry, scottm, I posted first,then read prior comments.

I’m in Oz. Time zones play havoc with discourse.

OldEnglish on May 7, 2009 at 5:44 AM

Yeah we r screwed.

hiphopconservative on May 7, 2009 at 6:59 AM

If Israel trusts Øbama to protect her then she deserves le grand prix d’or of the Darwin Awards, which by definition are bestowed posthumously.

Hell, if we trust him to protect us, then the gold will have to be shared.

dhimwit on May 7, 2009 at 7:18 AM

Not to worry; This was may the 6th. May the 7th, Obama will say something different. That child has no idea WTF he’s doing.

Cybergeezer on May 7, 2009 at 7:37 AM

At Obamas Nuclear Disarmament hearings, all in attendance will have little red remotes except Obama. They’ll all hit their remotes at the same time and send nuclear armed missiles to the U.S., then they’ll all stand in unison and tell Obama “okay, we give up.”

Cybergeezer on May 7, 2009 at 7:43 AM

Let’s see, the Jews have endured many an evil over the years including Hitler. Yup…a pipsqueak like Barry comes along and they shall summarily dump their Nukes? BWAAAAA!

sabbott on May 7, 2009 at 8:10 AM

Perhaps he can send some beenies with targets on top for all of them to wear so Iran won’t miss anyone. Sure disarm so there won’t be a second shot fired by Iran. What an idiot. This may mean that Obama is anti-jewish.

workingforpigs on May 7, 2009 at 9:41 AM

i disagree with a poster above who said that if bambi tells Israel that Israel is on its own, bambi will lose the Jewish vote & the Jewish money. he will lose neither. some view their heritage/religion as only a “for fun” laugh. my name is Kelley–ya think i’m irish? sure. do i support the IRA. no.

unfortunately, i think many Jews feel the same way about their heritage as I do about being Irish.

kelley in virginia on May 7, 2009 at 9:51 AM

not going to happen…frankly they should Nuke Iran before Iran can strike…

NRA Lifer on May 7, 2009 at 10:11 AM

Obama to force Israel to give up nukes?

He can’t possibly be THAT insane, can he ???
There are enough comparisons to JFK with him already – we don’t need any more !!!

LODGE4 on May 7, 2009 at 10:42 AM

With the huge percentage of Jews who voted for Obama, I wonder what they would do if he told them to sew yellow stars to their shirts and board trains for special vacation spot?

Star20 on May 7, 2009 at 11:19 AM

Fascist in the making. Nobody starts out that way.

Badger40 on May 7, 2009 at 12:00 PM

Star20 on May 7, 2009 at 11:19 AM

Wait for it. Except the ‘star’ will be something else. But no one will equate the two bcs that could never happen in the 21st century-we are too civilized, after all, to return to those depths of hell.

Badger40 on May 7, 2009 at 12:01 PM

Hey Obamoron. Isreal doesn’t finish their parliment meetings with everyone shouting “Death to America” you jackass!

TrickyDick on May 7, 2009 at 1:34 PM

“Israel to force Obama to give up breathing.”

Now THAT would be a news story.

Daggett on May 7, 2009 at 3:37 PM

Obama is a wuss and Israel knows that he is a wuss just like the rest of the world knows he is a wuss.

Netanyahu is probably laughing it up in private, but still wary of what other damage Obambi could do.

Sapwolf on May 7, 2009 at 11:50 PM