Chrysler lenders revealed
posted at 2:55 pm on May 6, 2009 by Ed Morrissey
We have two more updates to the Chrysler bankruptcy story, neither particularly surprising but rather depressing nonetheless. First, the bankruptcy court has revealed the list of senior creditors objecting to the deal the Obama administration attempted to cram down their throats through threats of public attacks. How long before someone arranges another AIG-style rich-hunt (h/t HA reader Geoff A)?
The names of nine dissident Chrysler debt holders were disclosed Wednesday, but a number of others chose to avoid the spotlight first put on them a week ago when President Barack Obama publicly chastised them for not supporting his plan for the automaker.
The nine lenders, which include previously disclosed members Stairway Capital Management and OppenheimerFunds Inc., represent just $295 million of Chrysler’s total of $6.9 billion of secured debt.
Previously, lawyers for the group estimated its size at 20 members with about $1 billion in debt.
The shrinking numbers attest to the real power of a “madman theory of the Presidency” on investors. So far, it appears that the creditors have decided to continue in opposition to the plan, but they are now down to a small minority of the overall senior creditor interest. My guess is that the judge rolls over them fairly quickly.
Of course, that’s what has happened to the American taxpayer under this plan, too, although Barack Obama seems awfully quiet about it. The administration buried the fact that they don’t expect repayment on any of the TARP funds granted to Chrysler, and won’t even keep a position in the company for any extended period of time. The American taxpayer literally will get nothing for the billions of dollars showered on Chrysler, from which the UAW and FIAT will benefit the most. Henry Blodgett says, “Suckers!”
The White House confirmed yesterday that the $8 billion in “bridge loans” the U.S. taxpayer has given to Chrysler over the past six months, including $4 billion in bankruptcy financing, won’t be paid back. Taxpayers also won’t be getting a big slug of Chrysler stock in exchange.
Instead, the wreckage of Chrysler will be divided up among Fiat, Chrysler’s unions, and Chrysler’s debtholders. Which means that the taxpayers’ $8 billion was just a gift to these three consitituencies.
Blodgett wonders whether the Obama administration will explain its “gift” to the saps who paid for it. I’d say that the explanation is obvious. The White House wanted to pay off the UAW and used the shell of Chrysler to do it. That’s not the work of a madman, but a calculated political act.









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I disagree that he is not a madman – he is. Who’s going to stop this clown?
suzyk on May 6, 2009 at 3:00 PM
Obama isn’t going to stop until he has chased every productive person out of this country, leaving only spineless, maleable yes-people behind.
-Dave
Dave R. on May 6, 2009 at 3:00 PM
Try to get investors for anything the Government got a hand in.
the_nile on May 6, 2009 at 3:00 PM
This kind of stuff makes me not want to invest in ANYTHING. Is that Obama’s goal?
CookeyD on May 6, 2009 at 3:01 PM
IMPEACH NOW!!!!!!!!!!!!!
capejasmine on May 6, 2009 at 3:02 PM
Hey! That’s was my money!!
And I get squat back?
coldwarrior on May 6, 2009 at 3:03 PM
Have a bill you do not want to pay?
Send it to 1600 Pennsylvania Ave NW Washington D.C. 20006.
jdkchem on May 6, 2009 at 3:03 PM
So does this mean the law suit is going no where? Do lawyers have on leg to stand on for those lenders?
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letget on May 6, 2009 at 3:03 PM
And like it.
ladyingray on May 6, 2009 at 3:04 PM
I look for things to start turning around now. There is nothing we Americans hate more than thugish bullying behavior. Much like persecuting christians in ancient Rome, this type of behavior by the government will only mobilize people.
Tommy_G on May 6, 2009 at 3:06 PM
This is so cool, I get to pay union dues even though I don’t belong to the union.
Bishop on May 6, 2009 at 3:06 PM
Or else!
Vic on May 6, 2009 at 3:06 PM
Yes. The only accepted “investment” is taxes.
If you attempt to invest money in the private sector and expect a return on that investment, you are a “greedy speculator”.
Please ignore the fact that Obama was elected through the efforts of the biggest “greedy speculator” of all time.
Also ignore the fact that America rose to greatness and prosperity because of the private sector.
reaganaut on May 6, 2009 at 3:06 PM
We should all … every damn one of us … file Notices as Creditors in the Bankruptcy proceeding. Millions of Notices, filed in one case.
This is madness.
OhEssYouCowboys on May 6, 2009 at 3:07 PM
Uuuuuuggggggggg! How does anyone stand up to a madman with this much power!!!! This is not America anymore it is a mafia!
petunia on May 6, 2009 at 3:07 PM
Yes.
Only the State should control industry in Obamaland.
Look up Albert Speer some time.
Kristopher on May 6, 2009 at 3:07 PM
“Try to get investors for anything the Government got a hand in.”
And the problem is that we don’t know what entity the Government will take over next.
Conservalicious on May 6, 2009 at 3:07 PM
In Rand’s Atlas Shrugged, where that happens, it’s intended as a warning, a la Orwell. But suppose you HATE the US, and capitalism, and whites, and those that produce and accumulated wealth. Then the book serves not as a warning but as a guide for dismantling an economy. It looks like he not only read it, but absorbed it.
JiangxiDad on May 6, 2009 at 3:07 PM
How about free Challengers for everyone instead!?
Wyznowski on May 6, 2009 at 3:08 PM
The warming feeling of saving UAW.
the_nile on May 6, 2009 at 3:08 PM
I had been in support of the auto industry rescue.
Owing to the federal government origins of the credit crisis…
Then Bama sacked Wagoner…. And things seemed different.
I was wrong.
silverfox on May 6, 2009 at 3:10 PM
It’s a downpayment for cardcheck…
youngO on May 6, 2009 at 3:12 PM
Or to buy a car from a company who was taken over by Obama. I think this is the end of both GM and Chrysler and the government giving them any more money is a total waste.
Those cars were mainly bought by patriotic Americans. I for one will not purchase another product from a company in bed with Barack Obama. It is against my principles to buy socialist cars.
If they can get the Liberals to give up their love affair with foreign cars they may survive but they have shot themselves in the foot with this.
petunia on May 6, 2009 at 3:12 PM
Just did a quick check and none of the investment groups are in my 401K. Whew.
ladyingray on May 6, 2009 at 3:13 PM
It’s even better, you get to pay auto workers not to build cars…….
………….. with benefits!
Seven Percent Solution on May 6, 2009 at 3:14 PM
I going to invest……………
in a new 308.
Old Hippie Vet on May 6, 2009 at 3:15 PM
“So, you aren’t going to roll over for Barry? Still holding out hope on that crappy constitution thing? Be a shame if something happended to you, or maybe your kids.”
Vashta.Nerada on May 6, 2009 at 3:15 PM
That is how dictators work. Stalin sent everyone with any talent to the gulag or killed them. So they couldn’t threaten his authority.
Obama just drives them to other business friendly countries.
petunia on May 6, 2009 at 3:15 PM
Always remember, EVERYTHING that the State does is on the backs of the taxpayers. There is no “Federal money.” There is only money that is confiscated from the People.
Tyranny isn’t always at the point of a bayonet. It can come in that instance where the taxpayers simply give up, throw their hands into the air, and stop hoping for a better life – because the State will take what they worked hard to earn and redistribute it.
OhEssYouCowboys on May 6, 2009 at 3:15 PM
Who commenting on this site is going to run right out and buy a Chrysler now????
Let me start….NOT I!!!
PappaMac on May 6, 2009 at 3:16 PM
They might last 6 months on the food that is in grocery stores….
Lets all leave the country for 6 months – every productive worker.
Go anywhere for 6 months…..
Hell, stop paying your mortgage, taxes, the goddamn thing.
Let’s see how far these assholes get.
izoneguy on May 6, 2009 at 3:17 PM
Yep.
Bugler on May 6, 2009 at 3:17 PM
And even the “yes-people” got a bullet to the base of the skull, or a trip to the Gulag.
OhEssYouCowboys on May 6, 2009 at 3:18 PM
I supported the first TARP. But I thought it would be used diffently. I was wrong too.
And I would have gone along with whatever Romney had planned to fix Detroit. I might have been wrong on that too. After all this… all I know is that Reagan was right government is never the answer only the problem. I guess I forgot.
petunia on May 6, 2009 at 3:19 PM
What Obama is doing is not the American way.
izoneguy on May 6, 2009 at 3:20 PM
Bridge loan = Gift?!?!?
Hunt035 on May 6, 2009 at 3:21 PM
Sounds like a scene from Enemy At The Gates… Kruschev walks into a room with the commanding officer at Stalingrad and says “The boss wants your resignation. *pulls out revolver* He’d appreciate it if you cut through the paperwork.”
teke184 on May 6, 2009 at 3:21 PM
is this the kind of thing barack’s father, Frank Marshall Davis taught him in Hawaii all those years ago?
Ghoul aid on May 6, 2009 at 3:22 PM
Of course! How do you pay back money unless you make money. Making money is against Obama’s principles.
petunia on May 6, 2009 at 3:22 PM
Those who ask what incentive there is to invest ask a very good question. With no rule of law, there’s no incentive – except for the Oligarchs.
And to think that secured bonds are supposed to be the safe way to go for people close to retirement.
Is there an appeals process or is this the last stop?
Buy Danish on May 6, 2009 at 3:24 PM
Could you people pony-up and buy me a 1970, 426 Hemi Cuda, orange with a black, shaker hood? Oh, and in pristine condition – of course.
I have no intention of repaying you. But, truly, I’d appreciate it so very much.
I really would.
Thanking you in advance.
OhEssYouCowboys on May 6, 2009 at 3:25 PM
Boycott Chrysler.
Boycott GM.
Boycott ALL UAW made goods.
I say they can keep the $12 billion if they just die now.
omnipotent on May 6, 2009 at 3:26 PM
For the supporters of Obama do you really still believe that Obama is a liberal in the mode of JFK or RFK?
technopeasant on May 6, 2009 at 3:27 PM
Well, from what I’ve read, he doesn’t invest that much himself….
cs89 on May 6, 2009 at 3:27 PM
well, he DOES keep turning to France as an example of a country to emulate…
/cheapshot off
DrAllecon on May 6, 2009 at 3:28 PM
At least this thread will be relatively troll-free.
omnipotent on May 6, 2009 at 3:29 PM
For their bravery.
Sickening. But what did he have for lunch today?
Rae on May 6, 2009 at 3:29 PM
Don’t you have to pay taxes on a gift???
$7 Billion = $3.5 Billion in taxes – Choke it up suckers.
izoneguy on May 6, 2009 at 3:30 PM
For my tax dollars, can I at least get an equity stake in the UAW?
They seem to be pretty profitable. But then again, most organized crime rackets are.
BacaDog on May 6, 2009 at 3:33 PM
All of the nastiest internet rumors of how bad the Obama administration would be are proving to have been very optimistic.
jukin on May 6, 2009 at 3:33 PM
OhEssYouCowboys on May 6, 2009 at 3:25 PM
Then you can resell it for Obama cash under the new “clunker” law.
100% taxpayer-raping wonderfulness!
TexasJew on May 6, 2009 at 3:34 PM
What do you call a bridge loan that doesn’t get repaid?
A bridge to nowhere.
Thank, thanks, try the veal. Don’t forget to tip your blogger or blogeress.
hawksruleva on May 6, 2009 at 3:35 PM
These really should be grounds for impeachment, or at the very least an indictment of those in the Administration who threatened these businesses. I pray that Lauria and all those who were threatened and stiffed file a suit and ASAP. This story needs to be constantly in the news!
Where is Steele on this? GOP? I mean this along with the Israeli outing, banning the National Day of Prayer at the White House, and the House passing the protect the sex perverts hate crimes bill while not protecting our military from hate crimes is outrageous, and beyond sanity. There should be info ads running nationwide on the moves made by Obama and the Mafia, I mean Gang.
This is Fascism plain and simple. The next time some moronic Dem or MSLSD member of the media asks an American citizen why we think Obama is a Fascists; we need to flip the question on them and ask them what makes them think he is not?
Anyone wonder if the “New America Tour” members will bring any of this up as they go out on their listening tour? Yeah, I doubt too! FREAKS!
freeus on May 6, 2009 at 3:35 PM
Obama can ask the UAW to be volunteers. If they serve well as volunteers, then he can roll out his plan nationwide. I suspect they don’t feel very voluntary.
seven on May 6, 2009 at 3:35 PM
I’m glad they revealed the names, because I’d like to know who I can actually invest with that won’t give the farm away to Barry O’s winning good looks and suggestive sneers.
evergreen on May 6, 2009 at 3:35 PM
The new reorganized entity isn’t intended to be a profitable enterprise in the old capitalistic sense. It is a money laundering machine which allows tax payer money to go directly to the UAW without the inconvenience of having to buy a car.
a capella on May 6, 2009 at 3:35 PM
Umm, didn’t I ALREADY buy a Chrysler? Chrysler should be giving us rebates equal to our share of the $7.2 bil we gave them.
hawksruleva on May 6, 2009 at 3:36 PM
I’ll keep saying it. If the GOP can’t demolish this guy in 2012 after being handed all this ammo, then they’re truly done.
Their Congressional leadership needs to step up and hammer him every day in every TV and print interview. Enough with the bipartisan effort. What Obama and the Dems in Congress are doing is unconstitutional and illegal.
Doughboy on May 6, 2009 at 3:38 PM
To me, this isn’t even about turning us into a socialist state. This is not about Liberal politics. This is a coup. This is the premeditated, planned destruction of our nation. This is evil and greed and power mongering. There is no ‘greater good’.
How long before the money runs out, gas runs out, food runs out, no water, no power, no way to communicate, offices, factories, schools and hospitals closed? Nothing we are accustomed to in modern life will be sustainable. It will be like the USSR – lines, shortages, etc. If the US goes down, there will be nowhere in the world safe for freedom seeking people.
Who is behind it and what exactly do they have planned for those who will resist? Bill Ayers said 25 million would have to die and that was when the population was > 200 million.
Just wondering.
gopmom on May 6, 2009 at 3:39 PM
Makes two of us. I was in support of TARP.
Welcome to the club.
Chaz706 on May 6, 2009 at 3:44 PM
I wonder how Obama intends to sneakily shovel money to Acorn?
Shameful…
saiga on May 6, 2009 at 3:50 PM
I hope some of these commie pinkos go to jail.
saiga on May 6, 2009 at 3:51 PM
I’m proud to have been mugged for $8 billion. – Obama Troll.
lorien1973 on May 6, 2009 at 3:53 PM
Don’t feel too bad. It looked a lot different on the drawing board.
DrSteve on May 6, 2009 at 4:00 PM
I bet it’s somewhere in the TARP mess.
Chaz706 on May 6, 2009 at 4:01 PM
Look for American boycotts of all Chrysler and GM products.
We’re not stupid.
Key West Reader on May 6, 2009 at 4:01 PM
If GM and Chrysler had been allowed to go into Chapter 11 bankruptcy by GWB, none of this would be happening. The companies could have had serious negotiantions with the UAW and really brought their labour costs down. Then they would have had a chance to come out of Ch. 11 able to compete.
Now they’ve taken billions that won’t be repaid, they’ll still go into Chapter 11 and the UAW will own them when it’s all said and done. And no matter how badly they run the company or how poor the product is, they’ll never be allowed to fail in the marketplace. I expect tax money to be diverted to them on a regular basis.
Ford, in the meantime, has to negotiate with their competitors when it comes to labour talks. I doubt very seriously that GM/Chrysler has much interest in fair dealings with Ford, especially with the US Government backing them up.
Just buy Japanese. We make some nice Toyota trucks right here in Texas.
Asher on May 6, 2009 at 4:02 PM
This is true.
Alana on May 6, 2009 at 4:03 PM
The ONLY way to thank the UAW for stealing our $8 Billion and Chrysler itself is to NEVER, EVER EVER consider buying a Chrysler car again….I gave my share of the tax money to give this company to a Union that destroyed the Company in the first place and will never ever consider purchasing a Chrysler product again….let’s give the union a worthless asset to play with!!!!
SDarchitect on May 6, 2009 at 4:05 PM
Why not buy Ford?
Alana on May 6, 2009 at 4:07 PM
Well……how many elderly in this country will die when nationalized healthcare creates rationing that will withhold treatment from them because they’ll just die soon anyway?
That oughta take care of at least a couple million, just by itself.
Puddleglum on May 6, 2009 at 4:07 PM
I cannot believe, that those who support Obama, support this kind of administration.
Thievery, corruption, intimidations, thuggery, deceit, etc…
Is this truly what you wanted? Do you truly believe you’re any better off, if America, and it’s wealth are gone? Unbelievable.
capejasmine on May 6, 2009 at 4:08 PM
Really? Then why have we allowed a thug with a Third World mentality to take up residence in the White House? And why are we just standing around with slack jaws as he works at warp speed to turn our nation into a banana republic?
AZCoyote on May 6, 2009 at 4:14 PM
They don’t know about it. They aren’t allowed to know about it. Nothing negative about Obama is allowed on the MSN, at least not yet.
Alana on May 6, 2009 at 4:17 PM
P.S. And when they do hear about it, they are trained to dismiss it, because of the source. I can’t tell you the number of people who don’t believe things based on facts, but based on whether or not they like who told them the facts.
Alana on May 6, 2009 at 4:18 PM
The Madman is speaking on the boob tube yet again.
Can I have just one day off from listening to the Madman?
Knucklehead on May 6, 2009 at 4:20 PM
AZCoyote on May 6, 2009 at 4:14 PM
I concur. Stupid is as stupid does…
Onus on May 6, 2009 at 4:21 PM
First step – do not buy a new Chrysler-Fiat-Obama vehicle. Or to rearrange the initials of this new car company = FOC – pronounce it however you want.
albill on May 6, 2009 at 4:22 PM
In times of change, the Patriot is a scarce man; brave, hated and scorned. If his cause succeeds, however, the timid will join him, for then it costs nothing to be a Patriot.
- Mark Twain
MB4 on May 6, 2009 at 4:25 PM
Ford or foreign from here on out.
petunia on May 6, 2009 at 4:27 PM
Thug-ocracy
tarpon on May 6, 2009 at 4:27 PM
Obama’s very pronounced fascists traits and characteristics have now become manifest for all to see. There is no point in anyone denying it any longer. The man is clearly a tyrant at heart and more and more one in practice. To not see that it is necessary that one close the eyes of his mind and keep them shut with ever increasing force.
He has indeed earned the name Barackito Obamalini.
MB4 on May 6, 2009 at 4:29 PM
I hereby publicly apologize to Jimmy Carter as Barack Obama is clearly not Jimmy Carter II but rather Barack Obama is Benito Mussolini II.
MB4 on May 6, 2009 at 4:32 PM
In Obama’s America, the only sources of wealth are votes, and the raw force with which taxpayers are relieved of their money.
From leader of the free world to banana republic in less than four months. Now that’s change!
Socratease on May 6, 2009 at 4:35 PM
Are there no Republicans in the House with enough American fortitude to at least try to launch impeachment proceedings against this tyrant most foul? Not that they would get very far against the dimoratist majority, but they could at least make the effort anyway. Barack Obama, and in just 100 plus days, has already committed more impeachable offenses that Nixon and Clinton put together ever did.
MB4 on May 6, 2009 at 4:37 PM
Excellent quote-Thank You.
Les in NC on May 6, 2009 at 4:50 PM
Of course there are no Republicans with enough backbone to fight him! That’s why we lost the election, because they are just Democrat-lite. They are spineless, self-enriching politicians that think by “playing statesmen” they will come off looking nobler than the Democrats who do not shrink from playing ruthless, gutter politics.
Unless and until “we the people” throw their sorry asses out we will continue to get more of the same. It’s disgusting.
Puddleglum on May 6, 2009 at 4:54 PM
You know what? I ain’t finished.
The Republican party makes me feel just like Elizabeth Edwards; when her husband told her about the affair, and she said she just “started screaming and ran into a bathroom to vomit”.
Puddleglum on May 6, 2009 at 5:00 PM
Bingo.
Let’s put ALL of these UAW thugs out of work.
thirteen28 on May 6, 2009 at 5:04 PM
I paint this scenerio to my friends and they say I am crazy….
That is why I am staying in Texas. At least here we will have a fighting
chance to live & survive. We have our own power grid. Plenty of cattle, farms,
food. It does not get down to 30 below zero. A huge shoreline. Refineries,
oil drilling. And the most patriotic Americans in America.
Oh, and did I mention the guns???
izoneguy on May 6, 2009 at 5:11 PM
So why all the big deal about this being unconstitutional and all? Just trying to placate the masses before telling them they are screwed and there is nothing they can do about it? Like defending Liberal judges for admitting they make public policy and laws from the bench and well, unconstitutional or not, there’s just nothing you can do about it.
When the constitutionality of things being done in Congress, the judiciary, or the WH are off the table simply because it’s government; if the ideology of a “ruling” party decides SCOTUS and thus decides what is constitutional versus the constitution itself; if corruption goes unchallenged because the “Ruling” party has control of Congress and chooses not to follow laws; when impeachment, treason, or any other number of items put in the constitution so that We The People could redress our grievances with the same, then a Dictatorship has been completed.
I don’t know where in the constitution or in the last election We The People decided to Nationalize private industry or authorize government to take over natural resources and the means of production for the U.S. economy. It treads completely against the grain of what being American and having the American Dream is all about. Forget there is no more American Dream. You’ll do what the government tells you to do. Queue up in your food lines and get your hunk of yellow American cheese because that’s as American as your gonna get.
Sultry Beauty on May 6, 2009 at 5:21 PM
We have been talking about moving to Texas since we moved to Massachusetts 4 1/2 years ago. I think I’ll get the For Sale sign out this weekend. Who knows? My ultra-Liberal neighbor has been trying to sell for two months. If I can sell before her, it would be icing on the cake.
My husband started a business (tech) in December and Massachusetts is talking about raising taxes all over the place. And our Governor is just Obama “not” on steroids – not encouraging. We’re interested in Hill Country but want our daughter in Catholic school. Any suggestions? We don’t need much, three people, two dogs, two big SUV’s and a shotgun. No need for much more.
gopmom on May 6, 2009 at 5:27 PM
High crimes and misdemeanors.
Theft has got to be in there somewhere.
Greg Toombs on May 6, 2009 at 5:31 PM
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