Video: Campaign to destroy Miss California escalates; Update: NOM stands by Prejean
posted at 4:10 pm on May 5, 2009 by Allahpundit
If you haven’t seen the “scandalous” new photo yet, feast your eyes. It’s been many moons since I’ve looked at the Sports Illustrated swimsuit issue but I remember shots like that being in there even when I was a kid. (Or even sometimes on the cover.) Which is to say, it’s very late in the day culturally to be feigning shock at material like this — and yet NBC, the network that aired photos and video of the Virginia Tech killer glorifying himself, has decided that the pic’s simply too hot for the Peacock to handle. A cynic might wonder if they want viewers to imagine that it’s worse than it is. Good thing I’m not a cynic.
There’s an open question of when the photo was taken — she says it was several years ago, others say it’s more recent — which may be relevant to whether she was a Christian or a pageant contender at the time but doesn’t much matter to her critics. Their goal, using the pretext of “hypocrisy,” is simply to try to make her radioactive within her own political and religious communities by painting her as some sort of fallen woman. It didn’t work with Palin vis-a-vis Bristol’s pregnancy and it won’t work here, but presumably they’re drawing some gratification from the mere thought that they might be causing her discomfort. Pure vindictiveness, but then what did you expect?
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Update: Maggie Gallagher from the National Organization of Marriage issues this statement. I told you it wouldn’t work.
Because Carrie honestly said what she believed in answer to a question–marriage is the union of a man and a woman– she is now the subject of ongoing character assassination. The level of hatred directed at her is astonishing. Even more astonishing is her personal courage and strength of character in the midst of these attacks. Of course Carrie is not perfect. On a personal note, as a former unwed mother, I want to say to Americans: you don’t have to be a perfect person to have the right to stand up for marriage. Nothing gay marriage advocates can do can change the fact—we all saw it on national TV—that Carrie is a young woman who surrendered all the glitter Hollywood has to offer, because she would not become the kind of person afraid to say the truth.
Through Carrie, we are also learning, the lengths some people will go to hurt and harass those who speak up for marriage.
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Playboy? Playboy? The last time Playboy had any relevance Hugh Hefner still had dark hair.
If Playboy subscribers (God, there’s a concept) are liberals, it’s because the only possible way they could see a beautiful woman naked is on paper. I’ve lived in Northern Cal for 35 years, and trust me, any liberal that likes pretty women is ashamed of it, because his wife wouldn’t let him if she knew.
warbaby on May 6, 2009 at 1:33 AM
I hope you two live long enough so that every time you wake up, it’s like seeing the wonders of the world anew.
With fresh, young eyes.
As if you were just born.
Wet pampers and all.
It happens to me several times a day now.
Loxodonta on May 6, 2009 at 1:34 AM
It was actually NO political affiliation.
upinak on May 6, 2009 at 1:37 AM
So you’re honestly trying to tell me that only conservatives marry beautiful women?
Terry Silver on May 6, 2009 at 1:39 AM
Are you serious? Have you ever been anyplace where there’s a gathering of successful conservatives?
It’s not just that they’re pretty; more important is that they enjoy being female, and don’t drape themselves in the liberal-burkha effect in order to deflect masculine attention.
They actually like being women. That’s beautiful.
warbaby on May 6, 2009 at 1:45 AM
Furthermore, Terry, nobody said only conservatives marry beautiful women. My experience tells me that they probably enjoy it more, though.
warbaby on May 6, 2009 at 1:47 AM
Like Cthulhu summoned from unimaginable slumber, I return to say: the pic makes my pants tight!
abobo on May 6, 2009 at 1:49 AM
You know I could be your stereotype of a liberal and say “yeah they may be more traditionally feminine, but I bet they don’t put out like liberal women”. Or I could tell it like it is. Overall liberal and conservative women look the same. Stop being so god damn partisan to miss that.
Terry Silver on May 6, 2009 at 1:50 AM
You know, I was going to respond to this, but since this statement is so jaw-droppingly vapid, I will just post it for the enjoyment of all my conservative friends here on H.A.
Enjoy, my friends, the “logic” of a liberal. It is something to behold.
Joe Pyne on May 6, 2009 at 1:58 AM
How old are you, anyway? Every response is a projection, like “your stereotype of a liberal.”
Whether or not conservative women “put out like liberal women” (charming locution, btw), my experience is that liberal women are at least ambivalent about attracting male attention. They may end up in bed sooner, but it’s rarely worth the trip.
As you continue to ignore, my point is that girls who like being girls are much more rewarding as companions for a man. Women whose primary relationship is with a mirror are to be avoided, and those who check every instinct against the current politically acceptable attitude are an enormous waste of energy.
warbaby on May 6, 2009 at 1:59 AM
I don’t think that my age is relevant, but I am 24. As for women; the vast majority that I have come across enjoy being women; and that is regardless of political affliation.
Terry Silver on May 6, 2009 at 2:04 AM
Your age is relevant because you continue to argue like a child, by projecting straw-man arguments onto people who disagree with you.
I’m 40 years older than you, and I would imagine you think guys my age envy you your youth; I know I thought that way when I was your age. That was in 1969, and the boy-girl thing was a lot more fun then than it is now. Try to imagine a world where women weren’t constantly resentful of having been seen as “second-class” citizens their whole lives, and expect you to atone for it somehow.
The truth is, in all kindness, I feel sorry for you, and I don’t mean that condescendingly, either. Trying to be a good man in this swamp of political correctness would give me nightmares. It looks to me like young men are increasingly given a binary choice between metrosexuality and macho idiocy, which is no choice at all. I wouldn’t be young again for all the tea in China. Believe me, it only gets better with experience.
warbaby on May 6, 2009 at 2:20 AM
I won’t for one second pretend to be as experienced as you. I don’t think think that women nowadays are man haters. I just think that the playing field is even; as it should be. Girls are still girls and guys are still guys. My generation has been brought up to believe that we are all equals and I don’t see anything wrong with that.
Terry Silver on May 6, 2009 at 2:27 AM
Prejean is comment gold!
800 comments.
carbon_footprint on May 6, 2009 at 2:28 AM
Surprising as it may seem to you, “your generation” didn’t invent the notion of equality. The difference is in knowing that men and women are different, and vive le difference.
Relations between men and women are, have always been and will always be difficult, and that’s the point. We are profoundly different creatures; that’s why we have so much to learn from each other, and why that’s so necessary.
It seems to me that people your age have been taught primarily that men have traditionally dominated woman, and that women were meek, subservient and smoldering with unexpressed resentment. Not true. I know more tough and feminine women in their 80′s than I’ve ever met in any generation born since the ’60s.
I’ve always known women who were stronger than me (some physically), emotionally as well as intellectually. The difference is that they didn’t feel the need to compete with me constantly, and to try to emasculate my sense of myself.
Being equal doesn’t mean being the same. Nothing has made me feel more like a man than women who enjoy and insist on role separation.
warbaby on May 6, 2009 at 2:41 AM
warbaby thinks that liberal women are generally ugly. warbaby thinks that liberal women aren’t comfortable with being women. warbaby thinks that because he grew up in the 1950s and 60s he has a better idea about what means for women to be beautiful. warbaby is f*cking insane.
Nonfactor on May 6, 2009 at 2:44 AM
Ah, the withering scorn of the adolescent. I bleed, I die.
Pretty much a nonfactor, all right.
warbaby on May 6, 2009 at 2:47 AM
I’m starting to believe more and more that the gay lobby is the biggest bunch of intolerant thugs out there.
Screw ‘em and anything they’re whining about.
hawkdriver on May 6, 2009 at 2:47 AM
Yo hawk!!
Hang in.
warbaby on May 6, 2009 at 2:49 AM
Warbaby I don’t think that being equal means being the same. Men and women aren’t the same. I do though believe that history has been predominantly sexist. I don’t see how anybody could deny that. I mean women couldn’t vote in the United States of all places until less than a century ago. Women are still discriminated against across the globe.
Terry Silver on May 6, 2009 at 2:51 AM
Can’t stay. On a work computer on the flight line. I’m in a hard building (with five of my bestest buddies in a four man room) If I get internet today, I’ll see you more later.
BTW, a gay LT from our unit (didn’t know before deployment) is being sent home for propositioning young soldiers and making advances to other men in the shower tent.
They don’t belong in the military.
Sorry! But they don’t.
hawkdriver on May 6, 2009 at 2:57 AM
Using terms like “sexist” is relentlessly abstract, and finally doesn’t get us anywhere. It’s also indicative of the leftie indoctrination people your age have been subjected to in the very air you breathe.
The only thing that works, I think, is one person at a time. Enough of that, and you’ll start to see patterns emerge in the actual people you have known.
Everything I believe is based in observation of (often painful) direct experience, and the main thing it’s taught me is to distrust people who use terms ending in “ist,” since that always seems to accompany somebody telling me how to think.
How women are “discriminated against across the globe” doesn’t have much to do with how I have to deal with the next one I meet.
warbaby on May 6, 2009 at 3:02 AM
Stay safe, Hawk. You’re the guy.
warbaby on May 6, 2009 at 3:03 AM
‘Night, all.
Thanks for the discussion, Terry. Just remember that whatever happened a hundred years ago, it’s not your responsibility to fix it, even if you could. Life’s hard enough one day at a time.
warbaby on May 6, 2009 at 3:07 AM
Comment was cool, calm and collected.
Comment was hysterical blathering.
Sigmund on May 6, 2009 at 3:31 AM
Comment was expected.
Nonfactor on May 6, 2009 at 4:16 AM
Wow, OK. So conservatives are not allowed to show sideboob now.
Gotcha.
Red Cloud on May 6, 2009 at 5:27 AM
The Today Show has had Al Roker on with less clothes than that!
gridlock2 on May 6, 2009 at 5:48 AM
I don’t understand how come there is not more of an uproar of those of us who are happily married. Which is what,75%?
Boy I miss those tea parties! Ever since they’re done, 10 or more issues have surfaced to the table. Hope that the list keeps growing and by July 4th all will be portrayed in huge signs by us.
ProudPalinFan on May 6, 2009 at 7:34 AM
It’s morning already?
Yo hawk~!
blatantblue on May 6, 2009 at 7:54 AM
Where are these people coming from? One person hates the right thing and the 99 percent that hate the ‘wrong’ thing are the guilty ones. The woman answered the damn question asked of her. WHat’d they want her to do, lie? The question was a stupid one to ask to begin with, now they want to reuin her. eh, I work in the same environment. Sceheming behind yer back and everything else.
johnnyU on May 6, 2009 at 8:08 AM
these libs are EVIL as hell…
I LOVE THIS WOMAN!!!
you go girl!!
right4life on May 6, 2009 at 8:09 AM
ROFL…or barf…
right4life on May 6, 2009 at 8:10 AM
Great comments and insight, warbaby, thanks for posting….
Red State State of Mind on May 6, 2009 at 8:23 AM
Just a curiosity… she is supposedly 17 in the picture. She had the picture taken for marketing purposes, but now she is not the one marketing it. She is known to be a minor in this picture; at what age does release of such a picture constitute child porn?
That might be a bit of a stretch, but I’d like to think it’s an angle that can shut up the controversy quickly.
As for her crown, I think we have to assume it’s gone. Then again, last year’s crown winner had a similar issue and was forgiven by the Donald himself. The pageant is going to have to grapple with quite a double standard if it removes the California crown from her.
flutejpl on May 6, 2009 at 8:25 AM
I hope the Left keeps dumping on her–so that Ed and Allah will keep posting her picture!
BuckeyeSam on May 6, 2009 at 8:32 AM
Hey, hey, HEY! Don’t use that broad brush so carelessly.
I like my Birkies…
ladyingray on May 6, 2009 at 8:35 AM
It was brought up. Now, Billy…for your assignment, if you chose to accept it…go back and sift through all the comments…
…this thread got a little, er, randy, if you know what I mean…
ladyingray on May 6, 2009 at 8:37 AM
;)
blatantblue on May 6, 2009 at 8:38 AM
hawkdriver on May 6, 2009 at 2:47 AM
Hawk!!!! Glad you stopped by. Take care of yourself.
ladyingray on May 6, 2009 at 8:45 AM
So…what are you doing to study today? Arabic…how to keep the hot dogs from burning…
ladyingray on May 6, 2009 at 8:49 AM
About to start the 1.5 hr commute to class! Then maybe a lil Arab. No hot dogs today :p
blatantblue on May 6, 2009 at 8:49 AM
blatantblue on May 6, 2009 at 8:49 AM
Eek…1.5 hour commute? So that is 3.0 RT? What a way to spend the day.
ladyingray on May 6, 2009 at 8:54 AM
Yea it indeed sucks a fat one
I takes me an hour to get to “campus,” but “campus,” is really 2 miles south of any actual classrooms, so we take busses, and in the morning it could take you a half hour to forty minutes to actually get to class after you get to “campus.”
Makes me miss living there. But then I think of the roommates getting oral sex while i’m trying to sleep, the baseball team having parties next door with dumb chicks til 3 in the morning on a monday night, and the other weird kid I had as a roommate who had 500 Gigabytes of pornography on his harddrives.
..yea.
On that note! cya lataz today! have a good day at work lady
Hawk, kick ass!
blatantblue on May 6, 2009 at 8:58 AM
This has nothing to do with the gay lobby. She is a hot property and some jerk/sleazeball is trying to make a buck off some semi-nude pictures of her. I thought all Christians liked sex. Especially, since sex seems the only way to make more Christians.
SC.Charlie on May 6, 2009 at 9:15 AM
where are the women’s rights people??
workingforpigs on May 6, 2009 at 9:53 AM
Good for NOM.
bluelightbrigade on May 6, 2009 at 10:05 AM
And, how is she being abused? The next time she is asked about her opinion on gay marriage on the air, she ought to just say that she has the same opinion of Obama on the subject. And, then ask the commentator, what’s all the fuss?
SC.Charlie on May 6, 2009 at 10:08 AM
Laura Ingraham interviewed one recently. She was a left wing loon who basically called Prejean a bigot. Money quote:
What trash!
Women’s rights only go so far as their socialist philosophy. Hence, their hatred of Palin, Condi Rice, Prejean and others who dare to speak for traditional values, life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness.
Christian Conservative on May 6, 2009 at 10:20 AM
Liberal women = Joy Behar, Barbara Streisand and Cher.
nuff said…
ObamatheMessiah on May 6, 2009 at 10:21 AM
Conservatives would appreciate the beauty of fidelity.
maverick muse on May 6, 2009 at 10:47 AM
Not sure I get the whole “hypocrisy” thing that the left is trying to generate here. Carrie Prejean is opposed to gay marriage. Are people who are opposed to gay marriage not permittted to take their clothes off?
pussum207 on May 6, 2009 at 10:51 AM
At this point, I would not be surprised if she gives up her Miss California crown. She found out who those people at the pageants really are. And I would not be surprised if she chose to end her modeling career right then and there, in search of better things.
I’m sure that, as we write and speak, there’s a Christian man, a very wealthy one, who’s looking at her picture or her face on TV and saying to his buddy, “You know that gal? I’m going to marry her!“
newton on May 6, 2009 at 10:54 AM
Christian Conservative on May 6, 2009 at 10:20 AM
“Bigot” has been so misused.
Kids don’t even know its meaning beyond “bad”.
Certain segments of the population jump on the “burn the bigot” bandwagon as bigots preparing the bonfire for victims.
Women were the last segment of the adult population to be granted the vote based upon true bigotry that thrives now under the guise of “multiculturalism” that today segregates America into a PC prejudiced society of “special” class distinctions. Conservative women are below everyone, meant to not be seen and not be heard.
maverick muse on May 6, 2009 at 10:56 AM
pussum207 on May 6, 2009 at 10:51 AM
The hypocrisy of the hypocritical critics you get.
maverick muse on May 6, 2009 at 10:57 AM
PC propaganda would have conservatives be extinct.
Meanwhile, Miss CA is a beautiful and pleasant woman ready to work for her living.
maverick muse on May 6, 2009 at 11:00 AM
Woe betide anyone who impedes the gay agenda
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entagor on May 6, 2009 at 11:35 AM
Here everyone!!! Beyonce is a great role model though!
(not saying I don’t like the vid…but I’m just sayn’)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8mVEGfH4s5g
LtE126 on May 6, 2009 at 11:37 AM
Yeah, for all the moaning about hits, how come you know who isn’t scouring the internet for more photos of Ms. Prejean, clothed or otherwise, and posting them?
Blake on May 6, 2009 at 11:41 AM
That’s the way it seems. The left always accuses conservatives of bigotry, but they HATE Prejean and Palin and any woman with godly wisdom. It’s in their religion, the mantra of which is “kill babies, kill babies, kill babies.” Their secondary mantra may be “promote homosexuality” or “perps are the victims” or “America wants a bigger government” or “Man is the tresspasser on the planet” but it all comes back to “kill babies.”
Christian Conservative on May 6, 2009 at 11:46 AM
What NBC news is doing is trying to sound sympathtic to poor Miss California because now the right is rejecting her… What?
Oh and just for your information… I tried to click on the porn you so graciously offered me… but it didn’t load. I guess I now have time to consider whether it is newworthy enough or just porn for porns sake.
If she was really seventeen can’t she bring some charges against someone?
petunia on May 6, 2009 at 11:53 AM
Sure wish I’d spell checked that last post. Sorry.
petunia on May 6, 2009 at 11:55 AM
Every time I see her, she looks better and better.
What a stunning cutie.
saiga on May 6, 2009 at 11:55 AM
For what? It’s not porn and I assume she signed a release.
Blake on May 6, 2009 at 12:02 PM
I wish people would stop calling them nude photos — they are not.
Blake on May 6, 2009 at 12:04 PM
Yeah, the Killer Queens are at it again! I agree with AP that the pic of Ms. Prejean is a yawner by today’s standards. But that doesn’t stop the MSM from plastering it everywhere in their lame attempts to discredit her.
Sadly, “lame attempts” only applies to MSM’s impact on non-liberals (like AP, right?). Another tempest in a teapot story gets blown way out of proportion by the girlie men and manly girls of the lame-stream media.
Sheesh!
Sweet_Thang on May 6, 2009 at 12:19 PM
That’s it..? That’s what everyone is freaking out about..?
People who have a problem with this kind of character assignation need to start boycotting every news organization, newspaper, and the companies who sponsor those who support this kind of crap.
Badbrucskie on May 6, 2009 at 12:19 PM
Nobody watches MSNBC — you can’t boycott what you don’t watch.
Blake on May 6, 2009 at 12:35 PM
Maybe warbaby is making that judgement based upon the liberal “spokeswomen” on this subject so far: Perez Hilton, Michael Musso, Gloria Feldt, Kim Gandy… if you don’t know what they look like, you might want to google their images.
foxforce91 on May 6, 2009 at 12:38 PM
Can anybody name a really smokin’ hot liberal chick? The last one I can remember was Jammie Curtis. Now she has grey hair and can’t take a crap without eating some sort of yogurt stuff.
Wyznowski on May 6, 2009 at 12:50 PM
Don’t know if this has been brought up before but at the link you provided to the “nude” pic, the pic has been altered so it looks like she is completely nude. They cut off the bottom of the photo so that you can’t see the panties in that classic Victoria’s Secret catalog style pic.
Lame.
oddjob1138 on May 6, 2009 at 12:54 PM
Do you watch movies? There are plenty. But who cares. There’s enough on both sides.
oddjob1138 on May 6, 2009 at 12:57 PM
I said “smokin’ hot”, not just plain hot.
Wyznowski on May 6, 2009 at 1:10 PM
That’s an unqualified YES! Janeanne Garafolo is outright boner material!
(I just threw up in my mouth….)
Sweet_Thang on May 6, 2009 at 1:32 PM
Need proof? Here’s a pic of smokin’ hot Janeane:
http://iowntheworld.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2009/02/garofalo_part2revise1.jpg
Sweet_Thang on May 6, 2009 at 1:36 PM
When gay students and citizens atart getting the “Carrie Prejean treatment” from people pissed off with what is happening to her, who shall we blame?
caygeon on May 6, 2009 at 1:37 PM
Liberal women are mostly whores or have whorish tendicies.
This is precisely why some women are libs in the first place.
Guys of all stripes know this and act accordingly.
Show me a chaste liberal woman and I will show you one ugly bitch.
kangjie on May 6, 2009 at 1:51 PM
Just about every female movie star. Ever.
Nonfactor on May 6, 2009 at 2:08 PM
She likely won’t get any support from the womens groups since they are mostly left wing lesbians.
workingforpigs on May 6, 2009 at 2:08 PM
The mindset of your average HotAir reader.
Nonfactor on May 6, 2009 at 2:09 PM
until the GOP has leaders who will say what we’re saying now, i.e., “The Media is attempting to destroy private citizen or a member of our party. We recognize that they are doing this and challenge them to stop because we will fight back by pointing out the bias and intertwining of the left and the media. etc.” the GOP will have to behave like they’re the strange ones. Defend yourself, defend the base, defend your allies. Or perish.
joeindc44 on May 6, 2009 at 3:19 PM
Good grief now topless photos of “the” gay marriage opponent have surfaced. Everyone has to see these photos.
http://iowahawk.typepad.com/iowahawk/2009/05/gay-marriage-opponent-topless-photos-leaked.html
SC.Charlie on May 6, 2009 at 3:44 PM
There are some around, if you are just talking about physical beauty. I am, by no means, in agreement that the left does not have women on their side that are physically beautiful. It is their leftist ideals that tend to add a pantina of ugliness to them. I would rather date a cute woman that possesses inner beauty, than the most physically gorgeous woman that is filled with hate and bitterness.
Sometimes, though, you get a convergence of inner beauty and physical beauty, where the two are catalysts for each other, resulting in a truly stunning woman. When that happens, the long knives of the left are unsheathed, and the true ugliness of their ideals comes through. What the left does not understand, is that the attractiveness of people like Palin or Prejean is just a bonus…what conservatives find attractive is the ideals they espouse. Thatcher was by no means a raging beauty, physically, but the beauty of her ideals shone like a beacon in the night.
coyoterex on May 6, 2009 at 4:27 PM
bah…patina. I can speel.
coyoterex on May 6, 2009 at 4:41 PM
Partisan hacks talk about beauty on internet blogs is pretty pathetic in general.
Nonfactor on May 6, 2009 at 6:28 PM
You should know. The standard definition of “hack” is “see Nonfactor.”
Joe Pyne on May 6, 2009 at 7:15 PM
Oh the irony!
coyoterex on May 6, 2009 at 7:39 PM
I hear she is about to lose her crown
ousoonerfan15 on May 6, 2009 at 8:10 PM
Over sideboob? Srsly?
Red Cloud on May 7, 2009 at 7:43 AM
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