Senior creditors: Chrysler deal violates 5th Amendment
posted at 1:36 pm on May 4, 2009 by Ed Morrissey
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If the Obama administration expected the senior creditors of Chrysler to fold their tents under political pressure, they may have gotten a rude shock today. Thomas Lauria, who accused the White House of threatening the creditors withn humiliation at the hands of the White House press corps, has filed a motion to halt the administration’s machinations on behalf of the UAW in the Chrysler bankruptcy. Lauria and his allies claim that the Obama administration has violated the Constitution in their bid to devalue the senior creditors’ holdings on behalf of junior creditors, and have some precedent to support the allegation.
The heart of the argument starts on page 8 (via HA commenter Outlander):
III. The Taking of Collateral through a Direct or Indirect Use of TARP Authority is Unconstitutional.
13. The Treasury Department relies on TARP as the purported authority to justify the disparate treatment under the 363 Sale, even though TARP was enacted after the Senior Lenders’ liens on the Debtors’ property were already in place. The Supreme Court long ago recognized, however, that a secured creditor’s interest in specific property is protected in bankruptcy under the Fifth Amendment. Louisville Joint Stock Land Bank v. Radford, 295 U.S. 555, 594 (1935). That case involved a Depression-era statute that was intended to help bankrupt farmers avoid losing their land in mortgage foreclosure. The statute in Radford provided that the bankrupt debtor could achieve a release of the security interests either (i) with the lender’s consent, purchasing the property at its then appraised value by making deferred payments for two to six years at statutorily-set interest rates; or (ii) by seeking from the bankruptcy court a stay of the proceedings for up to five years during which time the debtor could use the property by paying a rent set by the court, which payments would be for the benefit of all creditors, with a purchase option at the end of that period. Id. at 856-57.
14. Justice Brandeis noted that the “essence of a mortgage” is the right of the secured party “to insist upon full payment before giving up his security [i.e., the property pledged].” Radford, 295 U.S. at 580. In invalidating the statute, the Court stated that “[t]he bankruptcy power . . . is subject to the Fifth Amendment,” and that the pernicious aspect of this law was its “taking of substantive rights in specific property acquired by the bank prior to the act.” Id. at 589-90 (emphasis added). Thus, Congress could not pass a law that could be used to deny to secured creditors their rights to realize upon the specific property pledged to them or “the right to control meanwhile the property during the period of default.” Id. at 594. That is precisely what the Treasury Department would have Chrysler do here, with respect to the Chrysler Non-TARP Lenders’ property rights that were acquired prior to the enactment of TARP.
15. Relying on purported authority provided by TARP, the Treasury Department is demanding that Chrysler’s assets be stripped away from the coverage of the Senior Lenders’ liens – thereby impairing the rights of the Senior Lenders to realize upon those assets – so that those assets may be put in New Chrysler and used to the benefit of unsecured creditors in this proceeding, who will then be paid much more than the Senior Lenders. But, even assuming that TARP provides the Treasury Department with authority to provide funding to the Debtors and impose the transfer of collateral away from the Senior Lenders, TARP was enacted long after the Senior Lenders contracted with the Debtors and received senior liens on the Debtors’ property. Radford specifically disallowed the use of a law to retroactively alter existing liens on property.
16. Here, the proposed sale of the Debtors’ assets will leave the Senior Lenders with a diluted pool of assets and no further interests in the operating assets covered by their specific liens. The Constitution forbids this application of a law retroactively to undercut the Senior Lenders’ pre-existing property rights in favor or inferior creditors.
17. Finally, that the Treasury Department would take these unconstitutional actions to help the United States address difficult economic times is not an answer. Indeed, the same justification was expressly rejected in Radford, where Justice Brandeis noted that a statute which violated secured creditors’ rights, but which was passed for sound public purposes relating to the Great Depression, could not be saved because “the Fifth Amendment commands that, however great the nation’s need, private property shall not be thus taken even for a wholly public use without just compensation.” Id. at 602.
18. What is really striking here is that what is being proposed by the Sale Motion would strip the Collateral away and allow it to be put to use as new capital in New Chrysler for the benefit of existing and other creditors – even though the Chrysler Non-TARP Lenders have been given no opportunity to realize upon that Collateral to the point of full repayment ahead of at least $14 billion of selectively identified unsecured creditors.
One might think that a Constitutional scholar like Barack Obama would have already known that, but either this precedent escaped him or he doesn’t care about it at all. Brandeis acted to uphold contract law, especially in the face of a government interest in paying off politically-connected unsecured creditors ahead of the senior creditors. There is no other reason for Brandeis to make that decision, as only government could insert itself into the contractual relationship during a bankruptcy proceeding — just as Obama has done with Chrysler.
Lauria’s argument seems very compelling here, especially given Brandeis’ rather clear assertion that bankruptcy proceedings have to fall within the 5th Amendment — and that government can’t implement a taking to satisfy its own arbitrary aims by ignoring the relationship of the creditors to the default. We’ll see whether the court rebukes Obama.
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There has been no concensus regarding the Constitution.
/sarc
BobMbx on May 4, 2009 at 3:56 PM
And this from a President who says that “empathy” is the most important qualification to be a Supreme.
Buy Danish on May 4, 2009 at 3:57 PM
This is a very important point from that link:
And for all who say good riddance to hedge funds, the two most glaring big picture arguments worth pointing out are that in the market’s ecosystem hedge, funds provide a critical role of lowering not only the cost of capital by being in competition with each other for asset funding, but also in the role of bottom feeders, purchasing stressed assets, which your traditional prop desk or BHC would not touch with a 10 foot pole in the current over-TARPed environment, thus providing much needed capital and liquidity to the credit capital markets (very much comparable to the “provisioning” that Goldman Sachs is doing singlehandedly with regard to equities).</em
Buy Danish on May 4, 2009 at 4:01 PM
Well, I think there you have it. Obama is a “scholar” of the Constitution in the same sense that Patton was an expert on Rommel. One must know one’s enemy in order to destroy it.
Blacklake on May 4, 2009 at 4:01 PM
I’m sure if he’s had a p@nile implant, we’ll find out about it in a couple of days.
Bobbertsan on May 4, 2009 at 4:02 PM
Well, that was implied, but there was no need to wipe out the separate second clause to that statement.
Count to 10 on May 4, 2009 at 4:08 PM
Hussein may hold a diploma, but I doubt he is anything approximating a scholar. Not one scholarly utterance has issued forth from the man and he cannot compose a simple declarative sentence without TOTUS.
dogsoldier on May 4, 2009 at 4:10 PM
I know. The administration is biting off its nose to spite its face. The progs just don’t think
things through.Rae on May 4, 2009 at 4:16 PM
This is exactly what we need. Someone to stand up to the thug. He has to be exposed for what he is. A street gang organizer. The media should be proud that they are helping to destroy this country. Your time is coming media…
suzyk on May 4, 2009 at 4:17 PM
Fight the power! Fight the fascists!
RandyChandler on May 4, 2009 at 4:18 PM
Now we’re talking! There is absolutely no reason to believe the Supreme Court will be our saviors here and actually STAND UP for the Constitution – but I hope they do!
HondaV65 on May 4, 2009 at 4:23 PM
Predict that they’ll stand up to Obama until they get a settlement they can live with–and obama will oblige. Still, it’s nice to see that they did not buckle under and do not care a rap about being bad mouthed by the press. Has the MSM picked this up? If so, how are they playing it?
jeanie on May 4, 2009 at 4:24 PM
The ultimate authority here is The Messiah’s Auntie (with 5 Felony arrest warrants for being an illegal alien) – she says, and Rev. Wright, Rezko and Bill Ayers concur – Screw anyone with money – they are EVIL.
HopeNchange
Cinday Blackburn on May 4, 2009 at 4:27 PM
Besides, suspect that the senior creditors, in this particular instance, have the money to see this through. If this precedent is allowed to stand, they know their goose is cooked. In the same vein, how is O going to force other countries to cease being tax havens?
jeanie on May 4, 2009 at 4:27 PM
You forget, the only person to refer to Obama as a ‘constitutional scholar’ was…………Obama.
GarandFan on May 4, 2009 at 4:31 PM
Let me be the first to suggest that it is also an impeachable offense.
james23 on May 4, 2009 at 4:33 PM
Absolutely awesome! Thanks Ed, this article made my day!
TXMomof3 on May 4, 2009 at 4:33 PM
btw, don’t go lionizing Lauria–he supported Obomber, sent him lots of dough, and arguably is getting some just desserts.
james23 on May 4, 2009 at 4:34 PM
This story gave me heartburn. We are really, really on the verge of chaos.
If our laws do not matter, we’re headed into a very scary time.
For the first time in my life, I thought about my mother’s cynical attitude and got it.
She said, “Thank God I’m older.”
That’s cold comfort.
But it’s realistic.
This is the real news of the month, in my opinion.
AnninCA on May 4, 2009 at 4:37 PM
Time to take our party and our country back! Tea Parties 7/4, 9/12. Need to keep this going, or we will surely be rolled over by the socialists. And if the RINO’s won’t get out of the way, it’s time to start the Constitution Party.
Christian Conservative on May 4, 2009 at 4:38 PM
I’d like to think of Lauria as a “convert” to common sense
clnurnberg on May 4, 2009 at 4:38 PM
I will make it legal –Emperor Obama
Thune on May 4, 2009 at 4:38 PM
How does the White House Press Corp feel being used as a pitt bull by BO to threaten the creditors? I guess if you look like a lap dog and act like a lap dog, you will be treated as a lap dog. Does anyone really doubt that the threat was leveled with the full faith and certainty that the media could be used in any way for any purpose that the BO WH wants to?
AndAwayWeGo on May 4, 2009 at 4:39 PM
Enough with this “constitutional scholar” crap — Obama is not a scholar of anything. He doesn’t give a damn about the Constitution.
Obama is appallingly ignorant for a Harvard graduate, and legend has it that he graduated magna cum laude. Every time he opens his mouth he says something stupid. I guess that tells you what a Harvard degree is worth.
cheeflo on May 4, 2009 at 4:43 PM
Heard in the Obama speechwriter’s room: “I think, and many experts agree, that the Constitution fails to consider the feelings of American citizens.”
“Hey guys, is the Constitution for Americans ONLY? That hardly seems fair, and it applies to the Gitmo guys, right?”
hawksruleva on May 4, 2009 at 4:46 PM
Most thugs are ignorant – that is why they are thugs.
izoneguy on May 4, 2009 at 4:46 PM
Who besides Barack Obama actually believes that Barack Obama is a Constitutional scholar? He has lectured on the subject but to the best of my knowledge has never publishes so much as the back of a matchbook on the subject, let alone any scholarly works.
And yes, he simply doesn’t care — he is the Anointed One, the Messiah, the Lightworker, the Way Forward.
Never before in the history of this nation have we ever placed a man of so little knowledge of history and the nation he purports to
leadcontrol. Pray for the Republic.johnsteele on May 4, 2009 at 4:49 PM
Nor Scalia, nor Thomas, nor Alito. The crucial question is, what will Anthony Kennedy do?
Steve Z on May 4, 2009 at 4:49 PM
Kelo isn’t relevant to this discussion.
The issue in Kelo was the purpose for which the taking occurred, not whether the condemning authority was still obliged to pay just compensation for the property taken.
The issue here is whether, through TARP or some other legislation, the Court (the Administration can’t do it alone – the Court would have to approve the plan) can strip the secured creditors of their status.
Such things do happen in bankruptcy cases, though the victim in those cases is a subordinate secured creditor.
Here’s the context – and this is a VERY rough description (the bankruptcy guys & gals can fill in the details).
Company goes into bankruptcy.
Assets $100 million, liabilities $200 million.
Secured Creditor #1 is in first position, is owed $75 million.
Secured Creditor #2 is in second position, behind Secured Creditor #1, but ahead of Unsecured Creditors. Secured Creditor is owed $50 million.
To emerge from a Chapter 11 bankruptcy, New Company will have to:
Pay Secured Creditor #1 in full – all $75 million (because the assets of Company are worth more than Secured Creditor #1 is owed).
Pay Secured Creditor #2 $25 million – but that’s all, because the remaining assets of Company after Secured Creditor #2 is paid are only worth $25 million, so if Secured Creditor #2 foreclosed its interest, that’s all it would get from a foreclosure sale (and it won’t do better in Bankruptcy Court than it could do in a foreclosure).
Then Secured Creditor #2 becomes “Unsecured Creditor Owed $25 Million” in the “Unsecured Creditors” pool.
It’ll be interesting to see if (a) there’s something in TARP which waived the recipients secured creditor status vis a vis the car companies; and (b) what the Administration will rely on to claim a right to strip the non-TARP secured creditors of their rights.
BD57 on May 4, 2009 at 4:50 PM
The senior creditors would seem to have an airtight case unless we really have become a “banana republic”. A three year old would understand that you can’t change the law on a whim and violate contractual obligations. Either Obama has less economic knowledge than a three year old or he is very dangerous (or both).
duff65 on May 4, 2009 at 4:52 PM
Isn’t this the same Supreme Court that thinks it’s ok to use eminent domain if you’re trying to generate tax revenues? It’s not such a giant leap from that position to Obama’s.
hawksruleva on May 4, 2009 at 4:53 PM
The Consitution is just words and Obama’s use of words trumps James Madisons. So what’s the problem?
Fred 2 on May 4, 2009 at 4:58 PM
Most of that history stuff happened long before he was born why should he be held accountable for any of it?
The Brave New World began the day Obama was born and not a minute before.
petunia on May 4, 2009 at 5:06 PM
Excellent point, but you could have stopped after the word “Constitution.”
JDPerren on May 4, 2009 at 5:07 PM
Actually, I’m sure they feel all warm and tingly inside.
uncivilized on May 4, 2009 at 5:08 PM
Yeeeewwwww! That’s not a happy thought.
petunia on May 4, 2009 at 5:08 PM
No joke. He has also studied how power can be leveraged in a society and is trying to effectively wrest control over centers of gravity and exploit our critical vulnerabilities in the same way warfighters operate.
The whole Cloward-Piven Strategy with Alinsky’s tactics is really a form of warfare with the end goal of making the Constitution moot and/or collapsing the society. So when people wonder why it seems like Obama is essentially waging a 100 Day Campaign against America from inside the White House, it’s basically because he is.
econavenger on May 4, 2009 at 5:09 PM
And loved and appreciated. They love being loved.
clnurnberg on May 4, 2009 at 5:11 PM
Thanks – Just keep’n the ear on the financial bloggers.
Agreed! Thanks for the repost – well worthwhile.
Let me just state for the record that this, by all accounts of the well-read financial bloggers, is a a$$ pounding of significant proportion if bond holders (in ALL segments) get the idea their paper is worth butt-wipe because of USG. It will cause serious issues, of which the Constitution may be the least of your worries.
SkinnerVic on May 4, 2009 at 5:23 PM
As if Barack Obama would recognize that there is an authority greater than his.
Terrye on May 4, 2009 at 5:27 PM
Bill Dyer of Beldar Blog also has this:
INC on May 4, 2009 at 5:33 PM
Astute points…
Rendering secured status ineffective would essentially eliminate all DIP financing, and therefore, effectively kill Ch 11 reorganizations. Therefore, I can only conclude the administrations goal with this shakedown is to prevent otherwise salvageable enterprises from restructuring themselves into going concerns. What better way to put more constituents in the grasp of the all-knowing, all-embracing bureaucracy?
Neo-con Artist on May 4, 2009 at 5:48 PM
burt on May 4, 2009 at 5:49 PM
Hear hear.
About time we started using the law against the gangsters who stole power.
But don’t be concerned that the Idiot in Chief knew the law and ignored it. The only part he knows are the parts that can be twisted to support redistribution, and the dismantling of our national security.
He didn’t read the other parts.
notagool on May 4, 2009 at 5:58 PM
Barack Obama was not a Constitutional scholar, but a Constitutional Law Professor. A “scholar” studies a subject, reads about it, and offers an expert opinion based on his knowledge of the subject. A “professor” substitutes his own opinions for the subject he professes to profess, and students who agree with him get A’s, and those who disagree get F’s.
Steve Z on May 4, 2009 at 6:00 PM
Fine, just have Chrysler give back the loans and bailout money and we’ll call it a day. They can then declare Chapter 11 and reorganize. Whats the big deal?
athensboy on May 4, 2009 at 6:05 PM
I am rooting for Lauria, as well.
Obama has made no secret that he intends to rewrite the Constitution to reflect his agenda. What he fails to understand is that the document, especially with its Bill of Rights, is an essential statement that limits the government and that protects the inherent rights of man.
The unfortunate Kelo decision was a dangerous first step in giving the government abusive powers. When a government can trample the rights of private property ownership and bankruptcy law, then we are too far along the road of the worship of the State over the individual.
The farce that Obama is a Constitutional scholar should be held up to mocking laughter.
onlineanalyst on May 4, 2009 at 6:19 PM
What? 0bama violating the constitution? Never!
ok….I’ll add it. /sarc
Spiritk9 on May 4, 2009 at 6:26 PM
Well now, wouldn’t that be an abuse of power on Obama’s part?
onlineanalyst on May 4, 2009 at 6:30 PM
Damn Constitution…getting in the way of the socialist agenda again!
orlandocajun on May 4, 2009 at 6:32 PM
Weren’t those the very same words (minus the f###) that Obama used with McCain?
onlineanalyst on May 4, 2009 at 6:47 PM
Nor is there any record of any real academic scholarly memo’s written by the “President” of the Harvard Review. Nor was he selected to serve with a Chief Justice, almost unheard of.
right2bright on May 4, 2009 at 7:02 PM
Given that Granholm, the governor of MI who has taxed her state into further poverty and driven out business, is a Friend of Obama, a toady to the One, would she have the power to give that permission?
onlineanalyst on May 4, 2009 at 7:03 PM
You may be the first, but I seriously doubt you’ll be the last.
And yes, it really should be an impeachable offense to use IRS investigations as negotiating tactics. The government exists to protect its people, not rape them.
tom on May 4, 2009 at 7:10 PM
And give up control?!?! No way Obama will let that happen.
Banks have already tried to give back their TARP funds, especially since some never wanted or needed those funds to begin with. They were told no.
tom on May 4, 2009 at 7:11 PM
A “Constitutional Scholar” like Obama should have known that seizing the Census from the Commerce Dept., where CONGRESS had placed that census in 1902, was unconstitutional. Obama should have know the stimulus package has ELEVEN violations of the Constitution in that fraudulent bill, such as violations of the 1st, 4th, 7th, 9th and 10th Amendments and several of the sections in Articles One, Two, Four and Six.
Congress and or Obama have violated the Constitution at least 26 times in just over three months and NO ONE in Congress nor in the GOP has said a word.
Obama KNOWS he’s violated the Constitution if he has ANY knowledge of the Constitution, he just doesn’t care.
nelsonknows on May 4, 2009 at 7:29 PM
Perhaps HA should have a “High Crimes and Misdemeanors of the Day” feature to follow Obama’s violation of the US constitution.
Right_of_Attila on May 4, 2009 at 7:34 PM
When the president does it, that means that it is not illegal
agmartin on May 4, 2009 at 7:36 PM
Count to 10 on May 4, 2009 at 4:08 PM
Sorry Count, no offense meant, just building on your statement to make a point that I hadn’t seen mentioned and felt was important.
mph on May 4, 2009 at 7:43 PM
There is no violation of the law or Constitution unless someone takes it to court…
JIMV on May 4, 2009 at 8:15 PM
What Constitution? The one Nancy Pelosi is inking?
Upstater85 on May 4, 2009 at 8:24 PM
Does this make Obama the most un-Constitutional Precedent Evah?
Upstater85 on May 4, 2009 at 8:24 PM
Remember, according to the Democrats, the Courts can make policy so I don’t look for them to do the legal thing here.
Bluehanky on May 4, 2009 at 9:02 PM
Obama:
drjohn on May 4, 2009 at 9:24 PM
LOL. Do you suppose Obama can push Sotomayor into SCOTUS fast enough?
drjohn on May 4, 2009 at 9:25 PM
Can anyone here please explain to me why this wouldnt be covered under Article 1 section 10 of the Constitution? If it is expressly prohibited to the states to interfere in a contract then is it not also prohibited to the Fed? I thought the AIG mess would have been covered under this as well. If the Fed chooses to give funds to one to thwart bankruptcy how and why does that negate the lawful contract agreed to beforehand?
Also if it becomes precedent that the Fed can step in and negate a contract between lenders and borrowers outside of bankruptcy how will this affect lenders willingness to fund troubled companies in the future?….why take the risk?
Paco on May 4, 2009 at 9:40 PM
From what I’ve read, that bankruptcy judge may not go for the Obama Mob Plan. If that dope in the Oval Office pulls this off, why the hell would anyone invest in a unionized company when some government idiots can just declare their contract null and void on a whim? Obama’s gonna create jobs alright….selling pencils on the corner.
gordo on May 4, 2009 at 10:05 PM
YES!
SouthernGent on May 4, 2009 at 10:13 PM
please obama is loyal to the koran not the Constitution
rone5847 on May 4, 2009 at 10:23 PM
As a Taxpayer, can I file a Friend of the Court brief on behalf of Mr. Lauria…
TN Mom on May 4, 2009 at 10:35 PM
The fundamental rights of a lender of money to another, under a contract for something of value exchanged (usually real property), was – as I understand – one of the major points in common law, and was a part of the Magna Carta. (not a legal scholar, but I seem to recall this from university!) If the creditor could not repay the lender, the property (or other item of value for which the money was tendered by the lender), reverted to the lender, and the debtor was on the hook for any deficiency in the value of the reversion.
So, now, O and his cohorts have decided that this item of common law that has been embodied in the Constitution is no longer in his interest to uphold. Did O not pledge, in public, at his inauguration to protect and defend the Constitution? This would seem to be, on the surface, a presidential usurpation of his *obligation* to protect and defend the Constitution.
O must have the notes of every revolutionary since Lenin through Castro and up to Chavez, and be operating on their experiences.
Quaoar on May 4, 2009 at 10:48 PM
He’s not a constitutional scholar. He only played one on TV.
roux on May 4, 2009 at 11:03 PM
For Now, Judge Gonzalez Siding With Chrysler Creditors
Rae on May 4, 2009 at 11:08 PM
But then there’s this:
Judge OKs Chrysler financing over lenders’ protest
Rae on May 4, 2009 at 11:16 PM
Bend over America and the Constitution, Obama’s hope-’n-change agenda will screw us all. But it’s not just him, it’s all of them. Frankly, if we could Ctrl-Alt-Delete all of Washington and start over, that would be the best way to deal with this. Reboot Washington – that’s my battle cry.
Barring that, I’m praying for a giant sinkhole at Zip Code 20500.
realitycheck on May 4, 2009 at 11:17 PM
Fixed it for ya.
CJ on May 4, 2009 at 11:25 PM
to bho, the us constitution is a flawed doc which was written by rich white slaveholders…
reliapundit on May 4, 2009 at 11:42 PM
Step away from the crack pipe.
nelsonknows on May 5, 2009 at 12:24 AM
My appologies, I misread your post…sorry I get your meaning that: Obama believes the Constitution to be a flawed document written by white slaveowners….sorry to have included you in the prior post.
nelsonknows on May 5, 2009 at 12:27 AM
I feel like I have seen this bad gangster movie before.
In the opening scene, a naive investor buys some bonds, explaining to his staff that they are a sound investment secured by hard assets. Even if the company goes under, the investor explains, bond investors stand to get about 80 percent of their money back.
The next day, a government official calls and offers to buy up the bonds at 33 cents on the dollar, while giving controlling interest in the company to the labor unions. The investor refuses. That night, a man shows up at his home.
“We’re not saying anything bad is going to happen to you,” the tough says, “but the big boss is going to be very disappointed in you if you don’t take the deal. By the way, how’s your little girl? Is she still going to school down on Federal Street?” The investor caves.
The evolution of the Chrysler LLC bankruptcy seemed almost as bad. The Obama administration brokered a deal that gave labor unions a 55 percent equity stake in Chrysler, putting their interests ahead of the secured interests of bondholders.
The bondholder response to the deal was positively creepy.
Politicians were probably offering them a worse deal than they could expect to get in bankruptcy court. Bondholders that have been participating in the government bailout program for banks — and thus are especially susceptible to political pressure — agreed to accept the deal. But many of the independent investors balked.
- Bloomberg
MB4 on May 5, 2009 at 12:53 AM
BO STINKS!!!!
Bubba Redneck on May 5, 2009 at 1:09 AM
Anything that throws a monkey wrench in this Union/BHO/Chysler “deal”.
Time see who has the “coobarellia” (old country lingo for “cahoness”) for a fight!!
Bubba Redneck on May 5, 2009 at 1:13 AM
Maybe Harvard issued Øbama an affirmative action Magna Cum Laude
Jim02351 on May 5, 2009 at 1:25 AM
You credit Obama with the intelligence and discipline that he simply regurgitates from his masters.
maverick muse on May 5, 2009 at 6:57 AM
Urban legend has it…
Given no transcripts, no thesis, no papers, NO magna cum laude.
maverick muse on May 5, 2009 at 6:58 AM
Excellent lawyering by Thomas Lauria. He’s correct.
Phil Byler on May 5, 2009 at 7:20 AM
The entire Federal government is in violation of the tenth amendment. They have usurped powers specifically prohibited by it. Government is as corrupt as it is because it’s far bigger and more powerful that what was intended. It is no longer “We the People”, it is “We the Government”…
adamsmith on May 5, 2009 at 7:21 AM
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