Limbaugh: Jeb Bush and the anti-nostalgists hate Palin
posted at 5:40 pm on May 4, 2009 by Allahpundit
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A rejoinder to last night’s quote of the day. “Clearly,” says Rush, “in last year’s campaign, the most prominent, articulate voice for standard, run-of-the-mill, good old fashioned American conservatism was Sarah Palin.” Was she? On what subject, aside from the value of life and energy policy, was she any more compelling a spokesman than, say, Fred Thompson? This is the fundamental mystery of Palin’s appeal to me: It’s not that I don’t like her, it’s that I simply don’t see why she’s been anointed the new Reagan by so much of the base. As reviled RINO Mike Huckabee famously observed, she and he aren’t so different on the issues. In fact, aside from her convention speech, the rhetoric for which she’s most remembered during the campaign isn’t any articulation of conservative ideals but for accusing The One, correctly, of being entirely too comfortable around Bill Ayers. If Rush is right that some members of the new National Council for a New America are “embarrassed” by her, doubtless it has less to do with policy — she and Romney have the same stances on virtually everything except health care (I think), after all — than with the tabloid distractions that seem to follow her around. From what I can tell, the true key to her alleged Reaganism has little to do with policy at all and everything to do with her being an unpretentious small-town kid whose fondness for hunting and hockey gives her a populist authenticity no other politician can touch. (Which explains why items like this are so popular with readers.) Is that what it takes to be Reagan these days? No room for, say, Bobby Jindal either? Click the image to listen.
Update: So much for “hate”: Palin announced today that she’ll be working with the Council, thanks in part to outreach towards her by McCain and Cantor last week.
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I think Governor Palin is a tainted candidate, and, whether fair or not, has become an incredibly polarizing figure with many Americans outside of the subset of conservatives who really like her.
She most certainly reflects many Americans’ life experiences, however, Americans are fickle about proclaiming their dislike of elitists, and then electing their favorite one.
I have no clue, who will end up being the G.O.P. nominee in 2012, and, if I was in a ‘Deer Hunter’ Russian Roulette game, I would say Governor Huckabee, despite not liking his big government approach to issues in Arkansas.
sDs61678 on May 4, 2009 at 8:08 PM
The thing that I like about Palin is that she’s willing to take the fire. The Dems tried to laugh her off the political scene, but she soldiered on. Then McCain’s
forcesfarces stabbed her in the back, but she didn’t quit. She’s got vengeful Obamatrons filing silly, bogus ethics complaints on a regular basis in Alaska. Then there are the likes of Larry King, Tyra Banks, and others who fly Levi Johnston and his family to the lower 48 as if they gave a rat’s about them beyond their potential to ruin Palin’s reputation.Which other Republican has stood up in this kind of barrage? McCain? It is to laugh — his promise to “take the gloves off” in the debates never was fulfilled, leaving up to Palin to force the issue of his association with unrepentant terrorists.
I fear that McCain’s plucking her from relative obscurity so early in her career has ruined her chance at higher office. If you’re a baseball fan dating back to the seventies, you’ll know what I’m talking about when I say that Palin is the David Clyde of politics.
L.N. Smithee on May 4, 2009 at 8:10 PM
We certainly have our share of embarrassments here…right Allah?!
Sarah Palin supports gun rights. That must baffle you to no end.
Jed1899 on May 4, 2009 at 8:12 PM
FIFY.
Imagine that, Mass. led the way in legally recognizing same-sex marriage in 2004, and hasn’t taken any further steps in the next half-decade.
/sarc
cs89 on May 4, 2009 at 8:14 PM
Palin is the new Reagan because she espouses conservative principles not just regarding politics but also regarding life, and she lives and governs according to those principles. The second element is her optimism, an often unmentioned but integral part of conservatism. The foundation of conservatism is the assumption that mankind’s best days are still ahead of us, that good will defeat evil, and that every life and every human endeavor has infinite potential.
joe_doufu on May 4, 2009 at 8:15 PM
Brilliant, and bravo.
+1
warbaby on May 4, 2009 at 8:16 PM
I think Sarah, like Reagan, can envision the shining city on a hill.
joe_doufu on May 4, 2009 at 8:18 PM
Rush needs to focus his fire on Obama and the Democrats. His sniping at Republicans is destructive. I listened to his comments today about Jeb Bush’s words at the Town Hall, and I really think that Rush is wrong.
I don’t think Jeb was saying that Reagan is irrelevant, and no one else said that either at the Town Hall meeting. I think Jeb is saying that Republicans need to relate to people in society today, which is correct. That does not mean we abandon the conservative message. It does mean that we don’t reminisce and think that we are accomplishing something. Reagan won in 1984 with a conservative message, but he was also an incumbent President at a time of prosperity and peace; Clinton also won in 1996 without of course a conservative message but again at a time of prosperity and apparent peace.
I am FOR Ronald Reagan. Reagan’s speeches remain as relevant as ever. BUT Rush is being way, way overly simplistic is saying that all we need to do is to articulate a conservative message. That is one part, but just one part of what needs to be done. Media bias, ACORN operatives, Soros money, demographic changes and educational institutions gone looney Left are part of the political scene today, and we have to overcome them by relating to the people at TEA parties and Town Hall meetings and earning their trust.
The blunt truth is that while Rush is being a perceptive commentator as to Obama and the Democrats, his sniping comments about Republicans have been way, way off the mark. For example, Rush’s constant running of anti-McCain parodies is dumb. Right now, McCain has as good a conservative voting record as any Republican in Congress. He voted against tax cheat Geithner to be Treasury Secretary, against ultra-lib Kagan to be Solicitor General and against pro-abortion Sibelius to be HHS Secretary. He voted against every Obama budget and bailout bill, denouncing them publicly as “generational theft”, a phrase used frequently by Sean Hannity attributing it correctly to McCain. Yet, Rush talks about McCain as if he were the same as Specter who made Obama’s budget possible. WRONG and DESTRUCTIVE.
Phil Byler on May 4, 2009 at 8:29 PM
I’m looking forward how Palin does when she’s not carrying someone else’s water and not taking advice from backstabbers.
Hog Wild on May 4, 2009 at 8:32 PM
I can sum it up for you quite concisely AllahP: I like her because they are so very afraid of her.
They go wildly unhinged …and for the life of me, I do not understand why.
But I don’t have to understand why the Left goes all batshit crazy on the subject of Palin …I just have to observe their fear of her.
Heh. Works for me.
I was with Fred! to the bitter end because of his policies; but with Sarah (full disclosure: as soon as the Sarah PAC went live, I donated) it’s all about the populism.
I think she’ll be a fine president.
davisbr on May 4, 2009 at 8:37 PM
“This is the fundamental mystery of Palin’s appeal to me. it’s not that I don’t like her, it’s that I simply don’t see why she’s been anointed the new Reagan by so much of the base.”
Let me give you 10 reasons AP:
1)Michael Reagan, the son of the Gipper, wrote an article on townhall.com shortly after Palin’s convention speech extolling her message and comparing her to his dad
2)Sarah’s Palin’s concluding monologue in her debate with Biden was a paean to Reagan quoting him to how freedom could be lost in one generation if the American people were not vigilant. That was definitely a shoutout to the Reagan conservatives and I believe her debate with Biden was the turning point of how the base saw her. Many of them were skeptical of her skills after the Couric interview but she rose to the occasion. For those who were converted that night there was no looking back.
3)Sarah believes in American exceptionalism based on the goodness and talent of the American people
4)Sarah believes in small business, individual initiative and capitalism
5)Sarah is naturally optimistic as Reagan was
6)In an interview with Sean Hannity, sandwiched between the Gibson and Couric interviews she tells Sean she thinks about President Reagan everyday and that he laid out the blueprint to how she conducts herself politically and what she espouses
7)Members of the base who are old enough see similarities between 1976-1980 and 2008-2012. Both Reagan and Palin were treated with utter disdain early in the election cycle.
8)As another poster mentioned “Sarah Palin is an unashamed conservative.” Sarah does not pander and will not suck up. Neither did Reagan.
9)One of Reagan’s greatest allies was Margaret Thatcher. Sarah Palin is the new Margaret Thatcher.
10) Like Reagan, Sarah believes in the natural rights of man and is a staunch defender of the Constitution
technopeasant on May 4, 2009 at 9:10 PM
This whole deal with this coalition for a new America is a real opportunity for Sarah to talk about the issues, firming place herself in the opposition to Obama’s policies, and be the de facto leader of the opposition. Look I trust Palin in these settings where she is out in the public making speeches and talking to regular folks. That’s where she has been at her best. I see this as an opportunity to recast her image and that of Alaska, which was savaged by the media. The only concern I would have is the potential for rivalries to ensue between her and Romney. But now on second thought, I say the quicker she can dispatch of Romney ahead of 2012 the better, because its clear she is the star of this show. Why else call upon her to gain publicity and legitimacy among conservatives and the public at large?
milemarker2020 on May 4, 2009 at 9:19 PM
I should add to my 8:29 PM post that I don’t think that the Republicans at the Town Hall were anti-Palin. Thinking about it, Jeb Bush’s comment about nostalgia is not anti-Palin at all, but may be a diplomatic criticism of Rush. For reasons stated in my 8:29 PM post, it would be valid criticism.
Phil Byler on May 4, 2009 at 9:21 PM
Phil Byler on May 4, 2009 at 9:21 PM
Rush today on his program did claim that comment was subtly directed at Sarah Palin, in that many liberal Republicans consider her to be an ‘embarrassment’ and see her as a throwback to a ‘fonder’ era that should not be embraced now.
Jeb is a smart; I think he knew what he was saying.
technopeasant on May 4, 2009 at 9:37 PM
Not to put too fine a point on it, but we’re the generation that gave this country Ronald Reagan as POTUS for two terms.
KittyLowrey on May 4, 2009 at 9:49 PM
Though I’m not really a Baby Boomer. While falling in that category I’m more in the Generation Jones (tail end of Boomers, pre next wave). Still, it’s unhelpful to be grouching about grayhaired old people.
KittyLowrey on May 4, 2009 at 9:50 PM
It’s more than that — she walks the walk, both in her personal life and on the job — but are you trying to say “populist authenticity” isn’t relevant in the voting booth? Take a look at what we have in the White House right now and tell me personal appeal doesn’t matter. Because Obama certainly didn’t run on any platform of substance or experience, and he isn’t governing from one either. But gosh darnit, he sure has some great pecs and he’s really cool!
Palin has the “it” factor. It’s an intangible, it can’t be defined. It’s like chemistry. You feel it with some people but not with others, but when someone has that connection with such a large number of people the way that Palin does, or Obama, or Reagan, or even Clinton, then it is inevitable that they are destined for greatness. The je ne sais quois that the governor possesses, combined with her innate political instincts and her solid record of (IMO, libertarian) conservatism is an unbeatable combination. You might not “get it” but enough people do that it will serve her well whenever she decides to throw her hat in the ring.
And FTR, the only person who REALLY thinks Huck is virtually indistinguishable from Sarah Palin on the issues is Huck himself. His record in Arkansas tells a much different story.
NoLeftTurn on May 4, 2009 at 9:51 PM
The difference between Palin and Huck is their record, allah. The difference between Palin and Romney is their record too.
Maybe you should go and research them. It doesn’t matter what Huck and Romney suddenly espouse before the election. When nobody was looking at them, how did they govern? Palin governed as a conservative-libertarian, they governed as watered down big-government types. I hope you get that.
And about the tabloid stuff. I guess you fall into the same category Rush was talking about. Are we going to desert one of our brightest stars just because media pounces on her? Her family troubles are no more flagrant than what Obama has.
promachus on May 4, 2009 at 9:56 PM
When Sarah Palin spoke at a rally in my area, just days before the election, her rallying points beyond energy independence focused on freeing businesses of crippling taxes and regulation. Palin is quite committed to the growth of the economy and the generation of productive jobs that emerge through our capitalist system. Her message emphasized limited government. What is not to like about that platform?
The thrust of her speeches at rallies never was presented fully by the media. It was a disservice to Palin, for her economic points were the ones that resonated with those attending.
onlineanalyst on May 4, 2009 at 10:31 PM
The perceived problem with the Republican brand can be solved by making the conservative messages of fiscal restraint and liberty appealing to minorities and the young. A balanced ticket with Palin and a fiscal urban conservative, especially one with governing, not legislative, experience could handily defeat the Obama-trashing of America that is going on now.
onlineanalyst on May 4, 2009 at 10:50 PM
Only a moderate from New York would not understand her appeal to the base
It is very easy if you think about it.
All the right people hate her and make a point of trying to take her out. Her enemies are our enemies
The base can see that obviously she is a threat to somebody otherwise why are they expending all this energy to take her out even after the election
When I see Olbermann, Mathews Brooks and Frum so opposed to her it just vouches her for me.
If it wasn’t for that I would just have her in pack not really standing out.
The establishement is threatened and I don’t know why but I like it. If Ann Coulter or Michelle Malkin or Mark Levin ran for office against I would proably vote for them over her. Why? Because F u thats why
kangjie on May 4, 2009 at 10:54 PM
Agreed with all the above, especially that Palin is one of us, the people who make the country work. There’s something there, that people like Katie Couric and other of her ilk can see, and it frightens them. Palin doesn’t need the fawning adolation that Obama seems to get off on, nor the pandering that a Couric gives him. Without the ability to affect a candidate, through the fear of their scorn or the kissing up (Obama and Michelle hold hands, film at 11), the press has no power to effect a difference. And that’s what scares them most of all; being irrelevant.
itsspideyman on May 4, 2009 at 11:00 PM
Still a proud Palinmaniac over here. That said, I agree that her small town populist meme drives the elites crazy.
Sucks to be them. :P
itzWicks on May 4, 2009 at 11:01 PM
To technopeasant re your most May 4, 2009 at 9:37 PM: I listened to Rush today, too; and yes, Jeb is smart. But I don’t think Jeb’s comment was directed at Sarah Palin. There was nothing about it that would tie it to Palin. Jeb’s comment, however, may have been directed at Rush for reason explained in my 8:29 PM post.
Phil Byler on May 4, 2009 at 11:27 PM
To onlineanalyst on May 4, 2009 at 10:31 PM: the media did not report fairly about most Republicans. Palin was not the only one getting short shrift. The media was part of the Democrat campaign. It was wrong as to Palin. It was wrong all around.
Phil Byler on May 4, 2009 at 11:29 PM
You keep using that word. I do not think it means what you think it means.
29Victor on May 5, 2009 at 12:13 AM
How long did it take to get gay marriage legalized? I wonder. I figure the idea has been being fed to us for at least 30 years. At first it seemed absurd “Never in America, that’s nuts.” Then just kinda weird “Maybe in Europe, but not here.” Then, suddenly, “everyone else is doing it” and we’re a bunch of cavemen if we don’t see what a natural right it is.
I figure, especially with the influx of Muslims, some form of polygamy will be legalized in Europe within the next ten or fifteen years, maybe sooner if lefties take it up as a cause. We’ll be seen as bigoted backwards trolls if we don’t legalize it here.
29Victor on May 5, 2009 at 12:22 AM
“Clearly,” says Rush, “in last year’s campaign, the most prominent, articulate voice for standard, run-of-the-mill, good old fashioned American conservatism was Sarah Palin.” Was she?
Yup. Any other questions?
Kevin M on May 5, 2009 at 7:18 AM
C’mon Allah, you honestly don’t know where stands on gun control?
scrubbiedude on May 5, 2009 at 8:46 AM
Seems to be a hit-generating game for AP.
Note in headlines:
“Palin is just like (fill-in-the-blank), isn’t she? Except maybe in this one area.”
Commenters- You forgot b and c.
Main page:
“Palin is just like (f-i-b) except maybe a, b, c. Basically just alike. And, she gets lots of attention, but the National Enquirer stories will take her out. (Fill-in-blank) is a much better candidate, isn’t he?”
cs89 on May 5, 2009 at 8:57 AM
Kinda old but this took me 1 minute on google to find this. http://www.ontheissues.org/sarah_Palin.htm
scrubbiedude on May 5, 2009 at 9:03 AM
IMO Palin has the unknown quality that makes her a leader – how ese can you explain the enthusiasm a relatively unknown governor generated in a national election? Unfortunately most of the other Rep potential candidates are as dull and uninspiring as a bunch of bean counters.
We can dismiss Obama’s charisma but leaders have it and Palin has it. Romney is a bureaucrat/administrator, he’d make a good Sec of something but lacks the ability to lead any troops “up the hill.” Most of the others are the same milk toast types.
katiejane on May 5, 2009 at 9:23 AM
If you are not an actual conservative, you actually believe that government has the answers, you don’t believe in a strong national defense, you don’t believe that there is an actual real live Creator and you think killing unborn children is wrong…Sarah Palin doesn’t make sense to you. For us conservatives, who loved and cherished Ronald Reagan and shall never let his memory die we love this woman! You can rail and stomp your tiny little feet all you want but that is how we feel. Deal with it!
sabbott on May 5, 2009 at 10:59 AM
You pretty much accurately described what many of us like about Palin and why she resonates with us.
I also like Bobby Jindal, and, of course Fred was my first choice until he decided he didn’t really want the job.
What I particularly like about Palin is the fact that she is a self-made successful, conservative Governor of a state which takes personal freedoms seriously.
She is pro-life, pro-gun and manages a large household on a fairly modest income.
She is middle class – the graduate of an non-prestigious state university in a world of Ivy League glitteratti – the same schools who produced the architects of the banking collapse.
And her husband is an alpha male (i.e. has a pair), something I would like to se Jon Stewart and Bill Maier learn one day.
She stood in stark contrast to some of the other Lilliputian Republicans we saw last election cycle (most notably, McCain, but also Romney, Huckabee, Giuliani, etc.).
I also like Haley Barbour quite a bit.
But trashing her or ridiculing her makes a lot of us just want to completely give up on the Republican Party.
And it won’t win anything without we conservatives.
Why would these Council guys want Jeb Bush (or anyone else with that surname) as a member of a group which is designed to rejuvenate the Republican Party.
His family helped put the Republican Party in the throes of edeath in which it now finds itself.
I always liked him, but I don’t want any more Bushes for the rest of my lifetime.
I am unimpressed with this new Council.
I guess it could be worse, though, since it at least doesn’t have Mitch McConnell on it.
molonlabe28 on May 5, 2009 at 12:47 PM
What nonsense Rush! I an anti-nostalgist and I like Palin a lot. I also like Reagan but he’s not coming back and we need to get on with it.
jeanie on May 5, 2009 at 12:58 PM
Palin has a lot of charisma, which is a good thing.
She was “green” at the start of her run as VP – hardly surprising – and it showed.
The people managing her campaign didn’t help – they put her in some pretty tough spots.
At the same time, I doubt any of them could have predicted the reaction she’d get from the media types – it’s one thing to know they were all in the tank for Obama, it’s another entirely to envision the ferocity of the attacks on her.
Her biggest problem is the “Alinsky” problem – I fear the media has “fixed” Sarah’s reputation … Democrats will continue to loathe her, there will continue to be Republicans who look down their nose at her & the percentage of so-called “middle” voters who can’t be bothered to take another look will be large enough to make her untenable as a national candidate.
Which is a shame – handled correctly (I’m not talking ‘manipulated’, I’m talking ‘get experience, go more in depth with issues, develop policy, etc.’) she could be very formidable by 2012.
If, that is, she can get closed minded voters to actually listen to her (instead of the cackling of the media, et al).
BD57 on May 5, 2009 at 1:07 PM
For those of you who want to box Palin into a pro-life platform only haven’t bothered to do any research on her record as a governor, mayor or even a city council member. She is more than just pro-life. She is a strong advocate for small business. She believes in individual liberty as well as individual responsibility. She believes in Federalism. She believes in adhering to the Constitution (of her state as well as of the United States). She believes a judge’s role is to follow the Constitution–not to legislate from the bench. She is strong on national defense. She is a big defender of the 2nd Amendment. Her stance on energy independence and harnessing our own natural resources is light years ahead of any other politician on the national stage right now. She not only preaches fiscal responsibility, she practices it as governor. She believes individuals know better than the government how to spend their hard-earned money. And she loves this country. She believes in American exceptionalism–and yes, she believes in the right to life. But please, quit marginalizing her as “Mike Huckabee in a skirt” and look into her record as well as her rhetoric. As far as I’m concerned, she’s the best advocate we conservatives have right now. And we should be glad there is someone willing to speak to these issues without being afraid of offending or without being beholden to some special interest group.
Redneck Woman on May 5, 2009 at 1:16 PM
Limbaugh just stuck Carl Cameron.
Cameron of Politico presumes himself a Limbaugh insider, that Cameron’s opinion is Limbaugh’s, that Cameron is a trusted Limbaugh source.
And Rush just explained the Palin “like” factor; Limbaugh likes what Palin has to say, and likes Palin’s ability to communicate with people. Furthermore, it is the anti-Palin contingency within the GOP that deserves the credibility check.
maverick muse on May 5, 2009 at 1:25 PM
I wish she’d continued to steer around these guys. First, what they are doing simply doesn’t make any sense. They have announced so many things, and the problem is no follow-through. All the chatter is just that……blah, blah, blah… It reminds me of when McCain suspended his campaign.
Second, there’s no excuse for Romney’s sexist remark about Sarah. None. End of story.
People are tired of these insiders. Enough already.
AnninCA on May 5, 2009 at 1:35 PM
I’m watching closely Redneck. She’s developing a very careful pro-life stance. I agree with you.
AnninCA on May 5, 2009 at 1:36 PM
All this talk about the media makes me laugh. The truth is that these insiders believe the media more than their own commonsense.
Otherwise, they couldn’t say with a straight face that she was an “embarassment.”
That was media-generated up the yin-yang. They seem very hypocritical to me, very rude to someone who did an outstanding job for them as the VP. Her crowds were bigger than the candidate’s crowds, for crying out loud. She did absolutely nothing wrong and stayed right on message better than McCain did.
There are people like me watching and getting it. This group of Republican men need to get out of the business entirely. They aren’t trusted because they, frankly, are not trustworthy. Look at the way they are treating her.
AnninCA on May 5, 2009 at 1:40 PM
Yes.
McCain did choose Palin in order to improve his own image, and expected her to STFU and do as told since daddy knows best. So McCain’s snobby abuse of Palin is really the story to make him regret come his next re-election campaign in AZ. You’re right, she was tapped early in her career (that still proves better than Obama’s on experience, diplomacy, and responsibility upholding the Constitution and fighting Marxism and terrorism). And you’re correct in noting Palin’s innate intelligence, much greater than Obama’s; she learned more from her education than he did with his. He is the whore. She is the respectable all-American woman.
Palin has the same intestinal fortitude as Jim DeMint.
I’m PROUD that Palin took on Obama’s Socialism in the campaign. That proves she is not some JonnyComeLately on the geewhiz Socialism hurts us all come 2012. It also proves that Palin was not some dumb McCain sidekick, as that stuck in his craw.
Her detractors are stuck on this: she is a conservative woman. These detractors will never come around to granting her any credit for any good achievement. To hell with them. Don’t cry over spilt milk that THEY knock over every time, just to get a kneejerk crybaby response from Palin fans. Quit serving detractors anything. Criticize the corrupt and narrow minds that her detractors would impugn as world opinion. It’s THEIR damned peabrain opinion, not ours.
It never fails for a progressive to jump on the chance to hurt a traditional woman. They resemble rapists mocking back “Party of No” when the conservative woman says ‘No!’ to Alinsky, Marx, Obama. And like the behavioral warning Qhadafi gave Obama black man in a white world, progressive women make the worst cannibalistic Tom Cats. Then pussified malicious metrosexual men follow the bitch’s lead.
Force their peabrained opinions and vindictive elitist mannerisms be fed on their own flesh, certainly not on ours. Regarding the malice of Palin’s detractors, let no good INTENT deed go unpunished. Make them take their own medicine.
I’m a Palin fan, particularly in her with DeMint leading the ticket. Give her a running mate she deserves instead of the old RINO. We’ll take our lead from the Reagan/Kemp history lesson come 2010/2012.
maverick muse on May 5, 2009 at 1:58 PM
I’m pretty liberal on a lot of issues, but I’m watching Palin.
We all have to compromise when voting on some issue or another. If she sharpens her policy positions, I may back her, in spite of pro-life.
We’ll see.
AnninCA on May 5, 2009 at 2:09 PM
Carl Cameron just can’t resist writing today’s history, being the brilliant self-deluded “journalist” of whole cloth fabricated reports. When being FIRST in the gotcha game matters more than accurate integrity, jump in the crappy lost art of journalism pool. Then get out and put on that camel hair coat to feel justified by virtue of its former owner.
Meanwhile, progressives salivate within his birds of a feather flock. “But Carl Cameron reported it,” as if there could be no Cameron fault.
AS IF their flock is better than Palin’s.
maverick muse on May 5, 2009 at 2:14 PM
Great! Let’s see if they can hold their feet to the fire. Eat ‘em and spit them, Sarah. Let them see that you are now dealing with children.
‘Nuff said. PPF
ProudPalinFan on May 5, 2009 at 2:17 PM
AnninCA
Palin is personally pro-life and politically pro-American life. She promotes birth control. She chose to not abort, she would teach precautionary methods. I would hope that she would refuse tax funds to abortion clinics. The matter of abortion is a local state issue; and she is for Constitutional States Rights. I expect Palin to reflect Fred Thompson’s strong pro-life position. He is not for abortion, but would not make abortion illegal, because he supports the Constitutional rights of each state to determine social issues per locale home base.
Leave it to radicals to improperly tag Palin too social conservative or too lenient. She is most likely more like Reagan; she has her convictions, but she chooses her fights based upon the Constitution. That she finds personal strength from her faith is what everyone should respect inside themselves; believe in the strength of ideals and good traditions tempered with realism without impugning personal integrity. We all walk the razor’s edge, after all.
maverick muse on May 5, 2009 at 2:28 PM
They’d better get it quickly, because as things stand, these old fuddy duddy GOP farts are behaving like the bastards who wouldn’t grant Women Suffrage. They’ll shell out respect for anyone except a successful conservative woman; good ol’ boy’s chauvenist club will invite the Feminazis and all minorities to dinner, but not Palin. Invite everyone to the festivities. And for all of that women on the pedestal shmaz, they’re the last to get with the Palin phenomena. She can mop their floors, she can do their work while they carouse, but so long as she’s a conservative, leave her barefoot and pregnant.
Actually, Palin is EXACTLY what the GOP is now. These guys can either embrace her, of divide into the RINO party and make the distinction official. RINOs hate conservative women. Ask Meghan.
maverick muse on May 5, 2009 at 2:39 PM
Her lousy performance in the Vice Presidential Debate was not “media-generated,” and it certainly was an embarrassment. It is not on account of an MSM conspiracy that she is mocked and derided; it is on account of her.
hicsuget on May 5, 2009 at 3:33 PM
Her lousy performance in the Vice Presidential Debate was not “media-generated,” and it certainly was an embarrassment. It is not on account of an MSM conspiracy that she is mocked and derided; it is on account of her.
hicsuget on May 5, 2009 at 3:33 PM
What VP debate were you watching???? Certainly not the same one I was watching.
Redneck Woman on May 5, 2009 at 3:42 PM
Looks like Rush has lost a whole lot of weight.
Anyways – I think he’s right – I think most of the “Romney-Elite” hate Palin because they don’t think she’s paid her dues. See … They don’t count growing up in a lower middle class family and attending run-of-the-mill colleges as “dues paying”. I mean, what the hell? Sarah and Todd made less than $150K between the two of them in 2006 how in the hell can she run a country? At the very least she shouldn’t merit a place in line anywhere ahead of “Trust-Fund Mitt”.
Well that’s the way they see it anyway.
They’ve invited Palin along simply because they know it angers us and we don’t count the effort as legitimate without her being a part of it. They look at her the way Brett Michaels (of the rock band “POISON”) looks at C.C. Deville. You know – C.C.’s a pain and a total arse on the road, and he’s liable to throw a punch at Brett when he feels like it – and he really can’t play that well but the fans don’t consider it “POISON” unless C.C. is there on stage with his puke green guitar.
And I really don’t care – because, the fact is – WE NEED HER on that road show. This is the first step. All of these Republican heavy-weights need to spend some time on the road together to get to know each other. I’m thinking they may even start liking each other.
Hey look – I’m a Palin-Fanatic but she doesn’t have to be the 2012 nominee. Most of us Palinistas would like to see it but we can compromise. What we WILL NOT compromise on is the fact that WE DEMAND THAT PALIN BE A VITAL PART OF REBUILDING THE PARTY.
That’s all we want – all we’re really asking. We want the GOP to utilize her talents and ideas to rebuild this party. We also want the GOP to stop the snarks and STAND WITH HER against these atrocious media slurs. Because, if they don’t – they will destroy her and then move on to the Romney’s and Jindals next. Sarah Palin IS THE FRONT LINE OF THIS BATTLE. Turning your back on her means turning your back on the fight.
And we ain’t turning away from this fight.
HondaV65 on May 5, 2009 at 3:47 PM
Move on troll – she eviscerated Biden in that debate.
HondaV65 on May 5, 2009 at 3:48 PM
The “embarrassment” in the VP debate was the old plagiarist, Biden — you know, the man of 14 errors/lies/hallucinations! Palin turned that gasbag every which way but loose! Word has it he’s still wandering around Wilmington looking for Katie’s — prudently wearing his surgical mask, you know! You are right about one thing, though, she is mocked and derided on account of her — her being a woman, her having principals, her having a real record of accomplishment, her representing real change in government. The more Dumb and Dumber hose up the country the better she looks — all you boneheads who voted for them should be embarrassed!
littleguy on May 5, 2009 at 3:53 PM
Exactly – if they would just embrace her as a vital part of the party and utilize her extensive talents for maximum effect – they’d find their own political fortunes would shoot up as well as those of the party.
No one packs a crowd like Palin. No one pleases a crowd like Palin – it’s absolutely stupid not to exploit her talents to aid in the rebuilding of this party. The sooner they get this – the sooner we ALL (Rinos and Righties alike) can move on to winning elections.
HondaV65 on May 5, 2009 at 3:55 PM
Sure it was lousy to a troll. She kicked Joe (the gaffe) Biden’s arse.
For all the Palin bashing, I’ve yet to hear anyone disagree (not counting trolls) with any of her political positions.
Jeb Bush is just another RINO the GOP inserted into the equation in order to give the Dems more clear sailing during the next election. When are those idiots going to learn?
Gingrich – check
Romney – check
Palin – check
Jeb Bush – WTF?
orlandocajun on May 5, 2009 at 3:59 PM
Right, all the elites who think they own the GOP — please feel free to do whatever you think you need to do to win elections. I can always stay home and wait for the country to marinate some more. If you happen to put up a Democrat look-alike, I then have a choice of the faux Democrat, the Democrat, or relax at home while awaiting a real Republican to run next time — pay me now, or pay me later — your choice! It’s better when we ALL have choices, no?
littleguy on May 5, 2009 at 4:03 PM
Let me start by saying I think Palin would make a good president and it would be a treat to have someone more down to earth in the white house.
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That said, we need to move past her as the candidate because, for some reason, most American women just do not like her (only about 35% favorable). Without the women vote the candidate really has no chance. And I don’t think there is any way to sway the women vote. As anyone who is married would agree, it is very difficult to change a women’s mind once its made up. ;)
JeffVader on May 5, 2009 at 4:17 PM
JeffVader on May 5, 2009 at 4:17 PM
You’re full of crap.
Exhibit A: PUMAS who would never vote for Obama- until most of them did.
cs89 on May 5, 2009 at 4:38 PM
^^This is faulty thinking.
The reason Palin’s stock isn’t that high with some demographics is due to the “hit job” the press did on her – and continues to do on her. And they’re doing it because, of the entire GOP field – they fear her the most.
“Oh well” you say … “she’s still irretrievably tainted” ??
Well, you’d best find a way to correct that because if you allow the media to successfully “tar” her – then you are just simply setting up the next GOP “hero” or “heroine” to be “tarred and feathered” using the same formula.
You cannot ditch Sarah Palin and move on to the next “fresh face” because the media will simply run the same hit job on them. My evidence? Look how McCain was the darling of the news media – until he became the nominee last year – then he became “McRage” to them. They killed him. When Bobby Jindal peeked his head above the bushes earlier this year and it looked like he might be the next “GOP Hope” – they immediately slammed him too. Completely brutalized his “rebutal” to Obama’s SOTU speech. Even threw in some “Southern Racist – look at that Plantation he’s speaking from!” for good measure – even though Jindal is an ethnic Indian.
Hehe – you can run from Sarah Palin – but you will not be free.
You must break the “cycle of media slur” and you can’t do that until you’ve discredited the media. The best way to do that is to take the body of work amassed against Sarah Palin by them and hold it up to the American public so they can see and are convinced. Otherwise – they just move the slur machine on to the “next big GOP thing” and it will take some time before you have enough on them to discredit them.
It’s really to easy to do now. Most of the stuff hurled at her is absolutely ludicrous – it simply has to be organized and communicated to the American public. You can abandon her – but you’ll be doing the yeoman work of a coward for leaving her on the field of battle like that – and you will not solve the ultimate problem – which is the media and their slur tactics.
I’ll remind her this lady was simply an Alaskan house-wife who got into politics to improve her community. She went on to become governor due to her extensive talents in the field of executive service. She proved herself HONEST by taking on the established corrupt figures in her own party. She may be conservative and pro life – but she wasn’t thrusting it down anyone’s throat. She was minding her own business until McCain pulled her for his running mate. When the media rightfully concluded she was a hazard to Obama – they set out to destroy not only her political career – but her and her family’s reputation as well. They continue to this day.
You cannot move on until you defeat them in the battle of Sarah Palin. That is unfinished business the party needs to address.
HondaV65 on May 5, 2009 at 5:05 PM
Moreover, the behavior of the GOP post-election? Sorry, but it reinforces precisely what’s wrong.
Talk about weak. I can’t imagine letting anyone take the heat like that. I never saw one of those jerks even speak up about the stupid clothes story, and she returned them to the GOP office. Did anyone admit that to the press? Explain it? Nope.
And this is why they have zero credibility and, frankly, aren’t terribly welcome at tea parties.
AnninCA on May 5, 2009 at 6:32 PM
Jeff, I’ve been around long enough to watch people fall in and out of favor.
Presidential material? I dunno. But I do know she has talent and could make as much or more of a contribution to this country than 90% of all the congresspeople I’m hearing, regardless of the party label.
AnninCA on May 5, 2009 at 6:33 PM
I don’t like it when hacks like Meg McCain and Charles Johnson attack conservative Republicans and I don’t like Rush going on the offensive here. Jeb isn’t a Rino and though I didn’t care for his remarks about Reagan Nostalgia, I didn’t take it as an insult to Reagan or Conservatives.
We need to work on a message. A leader will emerge eventually but a message needs to be out there first. An economic message. Most Americans are with conservatives on the social issues (traditional marriage, belief in god, second amendment, partial birth abortion), we don’t need to run on them.
Daemonocracy on May 5, 2009 at 6:54 PM
Rush didn’t call Jeb a “RINO”.
Rush disputed the media’s claim that Jeb Bush had slighted Reagan. Quote from Rush … “I can’t even find any place where he even mentioned Reagan.”
Rush is also good friends with the Bush family – and he’s defended them on numerous occasions. Does he agree with them always? Nope – and to maintain his credibility he has to go with what he truly believes – therefore he opposed Bush on amnesty, prescription drugs … etc.
But NO ONE has stood up for Bush the “Global Terror Warrior” more than Rush Limbaugh. In fact – Rush has done more to defend the Bush’s than they’ve done themselves.
Which is why I’d like for him to STOP defending them. You cannot help those who won’t help themselves and in spite of numerous – scathing – and unprecedented attacks from Obama – the Bush’s have remained either completely silent or waged only token, weak protest.
If they don’t care about the Bush legacy – why should Rush?
HondaV65 on May 5, 2009 at 7:08 PM
Mega, major dittos! +1 and RIGHT ON!!!!!!!!!
The man is basically socialism light.
I think they are scared of Sarah because of us. If Sarah wins or Conservatives win elections then they are out of power. We then have control of the party and THAT is why Sarah scares them. They know we at this juncture mostly support her.
As to Jindal, he is okay with me but as Laura Ingraham said, this is also a PR deal and I am not sure he can conquer that part of what is national politics. He is going to need some more coaching on his delivery in order to win on a national basis. He is just as Conservative as Sarah, but he does not have the same delivery. Like it or not it is all about packaging and salesmanship.
freeus on May 5, 2009 at 7:52 PM
You are right, Allah. And that’s why she cannot win a national election, she is too provincial to appeal to the urban voters. And you have to have at least some of those voters to win a national election.
Joe Pyne on May 5, 2009 at 8:28 PM
I’ve never been convinced that Jeb Bush is Conservative.
He seems more like a Country Club Republican-all about getting elected, taking care of his rich buddies while governor but not really standing for conservatism nor doing anything really good for the people of Florida. Same goes for Crist.
Dr. ZhivBlago on May 5, 2009 at 8:33 PM
Phil Byler on May 4, 2009 at 8:29 PM
And this is a good thing??? That’s what the problem is up the in Congress! The Republican party used to be the home of conservatives. When I was growing up I watched Reagan defeat Carter. He didn’t do it by going out at jumping on all the late night talk shows and giving glib one-line sound bites to the press.
He won not one, but two victories by telling people that the America that they were in was a fabulous place, and the only way to make sure it stayed that way was by keeping government out of your daily life.
All the people taking about the “Reagan Era” is over need to go ahead and join Specter in the Democrat party. The “Reagan Era” is not about Reagan himself, as he would have bene the first to tell you. He just was the most vocal and prominent person to say and act on the conservative ideas that matter to us.
ArkCon on May 5, 2009 at 9:24 PM
Palin’s Twitter Page has some interesting comments about bush.
http://twitter.com/akgovsarahpalin
TimeTraveler on May 6, 2009 at 10:28 AM
TimeTraveler on May 6, 2009 at 10:28 AM
Where?
cs89 on May 6, 2009 at 11:05 AM
Don’t worry, Allah. Once the 2012 Republican primaries roll around Rush will support your buddy RINO Jeb over that hideous redneck, Sarah Palin. He’ll come around and carry the water for the Bush family just like he has in the past. We’ll be stuck with two terms of Obama but that’s beside the point. At least Allah won’t have to suffer through a Palin administration.
Percy_Peabody on May 6, 2009 at 11:17 AM
Agreed. Or the Truther/Birther weirdos who are currently fighting and attacking each other within their loon movement.
They are loons and sorry losers, period.
AprilOrit on May 6, 2009 at 11:31 AM
Anti-Nostalgists + Jeb,
Reagan’s continued lionization by the right is not because of some nostalgic notion that we are going to miraculously discover some Neo-Reagan.
It’s because he re-ignited a latent American patriotism that has direct, Constitutional lineage to the founding era.
It was this sense of American, Constitutional exceptionalism that had seemingly all but died out prior to Mr. Reagan’s ascendency.
His unapologetic re-introduction to Constitutional exceptionalism continues, & will always continue, to burnish his legacy as a great American hero.
Sarah respects & upholds that heritage quite well.
PALIN’12
tahDeetz
thaDeetz on May 6, 2009 at 4:59 PM
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