Erin Burnett: You have an “obligation” to pay as little tax as possible
posted at 9:35 pm on May 4, 2009 by Allahpundit
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A tribute to The One on the day he reminded us of his deep, principled objection to, er … tax cheats. “Obligation” is a little further than I’d go, but in an age when Greasy Joe considers it patriotic to turn over your wealth to the government, I’m not about to complain. Delicious stuff, and proof positive that Rush was right to zero in on her lo those many moons ago. Lest you think she’s guilty of some right-wing heresy here, revisit this interview with Harry Reid in which he reminded us that paying taxes in the United States is wholly “voluntary” insofar as you’re entitled to shelter as much of your money as you can. Three cheers for volunteerism! Click the image to watch.
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Erin is awesome!
Lance Murdock on May 4, 2009 at 9:39 PM
Allah has a crush on Erin Burnett. :-)
amerpundit on May 4, 2009 at 9:39 PM
I don’t know how Pres. Obama can talk about tax cheats with a straight face. Has he met his cabinet.
Cindy Munford on May 4, 2009 at 9:40 PM
I think she was being sarcastic.
Grow Fins on May 4, 2009 at 9:40 PM
Allah’s taste in women is heading in the right direction then.
Patrick S on May 4, 2009 at 9:42 PM
Well, an obligation implies that you owe it to somebody to do something. In that respect, it’s not the right word. But other than this semantical problem, she’s basically right. It’s certainly the right thing to do from every perspective.
radiofreevillage on May 4, 2009 at 9:43 PM
That’s what you get for thinking.
lorien1973 on May 4, 2009 at 9:44 PM
Yeah, but AP would have a better chance of getting KP, and MKH in a threesome then getting a piece of Erin.
Lance Murdock on May 4, 2009 at 9:44 PM
She’s adorable…
Fuzzlenutter on May 4, 2009 at 9:44 PM
I think Allah has a crush on just about anything without protruding junk between the femurs.
Spiritk9 on May 4, 2009 at 9:45 PM
someone wants an audit.
danking70 on May 4, 2009 at 9:45 PM
QOTD if you ask me. Glad to hear her say it.
Weight of Glory on May 4, 2009 at 9:48 PM
Since we have a power abusing Mussolini in the White House, Americans should pay as little taxes as they legally can to their power hungry overlord.
MB4 on May 4, 2009 at 9:48 PM
Stupid Obama.
If only he had spent some time in the business world, he might have learned that his bleeding heart minority fan base couldn’t even get a job at Mickey-Ds were it not for the entrepenuers he want’s to suck every tax dollar from.
Tax away dummy. We’ll stand by and keep count of the jobs you
createsavedestroy.fogw on May 4, 2009 at 9:49 PM
terrible screen cap of her. Too bad I watch Fox Business (if you don’t get it, demand it) instead of CNBC. But it is the obligation of the company to maximize shareholder profit. A part of that is paying as little in taxes as possible.
She’s right here. She’s not as good as Maria Barteromo. But she’s bubbly and speaks matter-of-factly. Sort of hot in the girl next door manner that you’d like to go to a ball game with.
ThackerAgency on May 4, 2009 at 9:49 PM
…and that’s why “obligation” is the correct term.
mikeyboss on May 4, 2009 at 9:50 PM
If Neil Cavuto says that one more time, I’m going to rip my hair out of my head.
amerpundit on May 4, 2009 at 9:51 PM
I quit being a consumer insofar as I only buy necessities. I quit spending money on discretionary items, and increased my charitable giving. Going to be doing more, uh, off the grid transactions.
daesleeper on May 4, 2009 at 9:51 PM
Yes, the all out tax cheat works for the Obama administration. The other guy get’s hunted down by the tax cheats working for the Obama administration…
Caper29 on May 4, 2009 at 9:52 PM
That SOB. Corporations and individuals don’t cost taxpayers billions, the GD Federal government does!
DerKrieger on May 4, 2009 at 9:54 PM
If Barry wants to start with Tax Cheats he needs to look no further than his own admin.
lasertex on May 4, 2009 at 9:54 PM
Wrong again AP, it is our “obligation” to reduce our tax burden for 2 reasons. One, keep as much money to raise our own families (which is our right and duty to our loved ones) and to keep government smaller. The more money you give them the more they spend.
echosyst on May 4, 2009 at 9:58 PM
In the words of Perez Hilton
“You stupid B**** and C***.”
RobCon on May 4, 2009 at 10:00 PM
Good IBD article confirming what I knew to be treua ll along.
DerKrieger on May 4, 2009 at 10:00 PM
Well, if it’s good enough for Terrific Timmy, it’s good enough for me.
Dr.Cwac.Cwac on May 4, 2009 at 10:00 PM
Yep. Nothing invested, everything to gain, er, steal.
Dr.Cwac.Cwac on May 4, 2009 at 10:01 PM
I’d never listened to the guy regularly before Reid dedicded to write him that letter. After that I made it a point to at least see what all the demonization was about, and found him to be pretty spot on with almost everything. I listen daily for at least a little bit now.
Great work Harry Reid!
BadgerHawk on May 4, 2009 at 10:02 PM
Did you hear Economic Stimulus 2.0?
Dr.Cwac.Cwac on May 4, 2009 at 10:02 PM
The reason they are going to push through amnesity for illegals
deidre on May 4, 2009 at 10:04 PM
I been commenting here since 2007? Geesh. I’m old.
lorien1973 on May 4, 2009 at 10:04 PM
“Income”, in the tax code, implies that you have not bought the money (your “pay” check) which you “earn” with your labor (ingenuity, skill, et al), and that it is equivalent to “unearned” profits on stocks, bonds, etc.
Working, in actuality, produces no “income” that is legally taxable, but is a barter of time, energy, brain/sinew power for a symbolic value called “money”.
True “income” that might be “taxable” would be value added to objects of worth ~jewels, gold bullion, art pieces, etc., which appreciate~ (or depreciate, and the loss can be deducted) with no labor/skill trade involved.
The IRS is based on many such legaloid frauds.
Until this system is replaced with something honest, avoiding its patent corruptions as much as possible is only common sense.
profitsbeard on May 4, 2009 at 10:05 PM
Also, I heard President Obama say he wants to remove some of the incentives for companies to locate in low tax countries abroad. If I didn’t know any better I’d take that as an indication he was going to reduce our corporate tax rates here.
But I know better, so I understood it to mean he’s going to use the government to try and take what’s not his.
BadgerHawk on May 4, 2009 at 10:05 PM
Of course! Duh!
SouthernGent on May 4, 2009 at 10:08 PM
People like Burnett may be moderate to liberal but they know and like the people on wall st. who are being demonized.
The tug of war at CNBC is very interesting politically.
There are people who know this administration is bad news yet just today they brought in an Obamabot for the Power Lunch program to appear fair. A cute hack who had her talking points down cold.
You know Wright and Imelt are sucking up hard to Barry for that Government cheese.
P.S.- I read that post article- erins honesty about being a green- eyed diva was pretty depressing, but not surprising.
jjshaka on May 4, 2009 at 10:14 PM
I cracked up when TOTUS mentioned Rangle and guffawed at Geithner’s words! TOTUS wants to go after Tax Cheats and Giethner is 2 feet away…
TN Mom on May 4, 2009 at 10:15 PM
“The problem with Socialism is that sooner or later you run out of other peoples money”
Looks like sooner is right around the corner.
TN Mom on May 4, 2009 at 10:21 PM
Yeah but all your “hitting” keeps you young, friend.
Patrick S on May 4, 2009 at 10:25 PM
Yeah, Erin is very cute and vary sharp, though I’d go for Margaret Brennan if I had to pick a CNBC babe.
dedalus on May 4, 2009 at 10:27 PM
Is she going to be called on the carpet for this? You know Cramer and Santelli must’ve gotten an earful.
ddrintn on May 4, 2009 at 10:31 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=chqi8m4CEEY
RightWinged on May 4, 2009 at 10:40 PM
Redneck Riviera, huh? That’s almost as funny as when she called President Bush the “monkey in the middle.” All kiding aside, Erin Burnett is great, and I’m proud that my high school pumped out at least one other fiscal conservative.
Vincenzo on May 4, 2009 at 10:49 PM
Clown in Chief wants to go after not only income legitimately taxable relative to US markets, but also US companies’ income from non-US markets if those US companies have organized themselves such that they legitimately, under the rules in place, owe lower taxes to non-US countries. Non-US markets. Beyond clueless, he’s shameless. No matter where the money is, whose it is, and how it was arrived at, it’s his. It’s all about other people’s money. Quite telling how he can only make money through sweetheart book deals and politics. Helluva an executive you are Barry, while you run the country into the ground in a fashion to rival GM management and the UAW.
churchill995 on May 4, 2009 at 10:54 PM
He makes ENRON look ethical.
faol on May 4, 2009 at 11:07 PM
How much more than the required amount of taxes did Obama voluntarily give to the federal and state governments? If he thinks that the minimum required by law is not enough, then he should giving much more than required.
HotWeaver on May 4, 2009 at 11:08 PM
Erin’s OK but she reminds me a little of a monkey. Like a monkey in the middle…
BCrago66 on May 4, 2009 at 11:10 PM
Why are you talking about Merkell like that?
Vincenzo on May 4, 2009 at 11:16 PM
Aren’t we all…
bikermailman on May 4, 2009 at 11:20 PM
Yes, the all out tax cheat works for the Obama administration. The other guy get’s hunted down by the tax cheats working for the Obama administration…
Caper29 on May 4, 2009 at 9:52 PM
Who better than those in the know.
heshtesh on May 4, 2009 at 11:34 PM
That is how I understood it, too. He wants to tax companies operating in other countries, which would mean – I think – that they would have to pay taxes to the other countries PLUS taxes to Barry.
Do I have that right?
How about if they just move out of the U.S. altogether, would that solve it? Or would they still have to pay taxes to the U.S. on account of they once were in the U.S.?
And what about individuals? I’m not at all sure how it works for individuals. But it would be pretty rotten if people had to pay taxes to two different countries.
(I’ve never used the name “Barry” before, but it doesn’t seem like we are paying taxes to the country anymore, but Taxes to Barry. And he’s bound and determined to squeeze every bit he can, to give to his friends and special interest groups.)
Alana on May 4, 2009 at 11:36 PM
Well I guess that pretty much leaves me out too. I could afford a nice dinner and movies. She is hot, but with an attitude like that she knocks herself quite a few rungs down the ladder with me. Even if I could afford all that stuff, the expectation of it would turn me off.
Paco on May 5, 2009 at 12:04 AM
Any tax hike is never enough. All tax cuts are too deep. All programs are underfunded- except defense (which is bloated). Any program cut (except defense) is unconscionable.
Amendment X on May 5, 2009 at 12:06 AM
Here’s the deal. US based companies are generally not taxable in the US on what their non-US subsidiaries earn in their respective non-US markets, until those non-US subsidiaries pay a dividend up to the US parent company. When that happens, generally the US parent company will pay US income taxes on the dividend amount plus related foreign income taxes paid on that income, but will get a US tax credit for the foreign income taxes paid up to a limit of the US tax rate, with the hoped for result that the net tax on the non-US earnings isn’t higher than what the US rate of 35% would be. Sounds simple, eh? It isn’t in practice. Often there is leakage such that it is not a wash, and that leakage would grow substantially under Barry’s design. Some US companies are able to plan to lower the foreign taxes on their non-US earnings, but instead of leaving that to other countries to chase, Barry wants to grab that too, indirectly. Moreover, other countries don’t generally tax foreign earnings of their resident companies. One analogy I have seen is that this would be akin to tacking on extra seconds to the time of an American Olympic runner, such that he loses to foreign country competitors as opposed to winning the gold medal. Net, US companies will have significantly lower after tax earnings, with less amounts for those US companies to invest and hire people in the US to compete globally. With the world’s highest or 2nd highest corporate tax rate already, Barry’s idea is really dumb, particularly in a recession. But of course he knows better, given his worldly experience and perspective.
churchill995 on May 5, 2009 at 12:19 AM
I’m wondering if the White House Press Corp. will stand when they ask NOTUS about this new policy and the actions of his Administration……………
……… or will another “Date Night” expose run 24/7?
Seven Percent Solution on May 5, 2009 at 12:27 AM
CNBC has a ton of hot girls on it. . . all of em really. It’s amazing how many I remember from watching that channel religiously in the mid 90’s. Barteromo on the floor in the morning was magic. She was awesome. It’s still strange for me to see her in a more serious anchor position, but she’s still great (the best really).
Rebecca Jarvis, Carusa Cabrera. Sue Herera (never thought she was hot, but she was good). It’s amazing how many of them are still there after all these years. Not the hotness, but Joe Kernan is probably the best analyst on TV. And Bill Griffeth is STILL doing power lunch – his show used to be the highlight of my day during my lunch break.
I know all that watching can’t possibly be in vain. Didn’t I learn anything worthwhile or useful? Sometimes I wonder.
It was that DANG TERRY KEENAN on her CNN news breaks that got me hooked on trading. Her piercing blue eyes and blond hair were irresistible back then. I loved how she said ‘New York Stock Exchange’. She’s with Fox now.
Anyway, I have no idea why I’m reminiscing like this. . . it’s just strange that it’s been so long. I’m trying to figure out why on earth I wasted so much time watching that drivel. . . shouldn’t I be rich by now? My life. . . what a waste.
ThackerAgency on May 5, 2009 at 12:39 AM
Mr. Obama paid one tenth proportionally to what I paid in income taxes this year. So I’m certainly looking at his civic guidance as I determine how much in taxes I ought to pay this year. But I’m right on the border of rich — too wealthy to avoid taxes, but too poor to have the plethora of loopholes of which Obama hath availed himself. But I’m looking carefully…
unclesmrgol on May 5, 2009 at 12:52 AM
Yup, it’s barter-time until Barry goes back to Chi-town.
No big ticket items unless bought used (so neither I nor the seller pay any taxes on the transaction).
Sell what you can on Craig’s list (free to use).
Don’t feed the
trollspoliticians!!!omnipotent on May 5, 2009 at 12:54 AM
cash cash cash cash.
It is untraceable.
Bubba Redneck on May 5, 2009 at 1:01 AM
It was very weird watching CNBC this morning. It was only the second time in a while that I saw the entire network blasting the administration all day.
I guess those tax shelter attacks hit a little close to home for the gang.
Anyway, CNBC is the only news I can watch after 10:00 am anymore. I can tune into Fox at 5:00pm, but I can’t take the banter ALL DAY.
Vincenzo on May 5, 2009 at 1:04 AM
If Olbermann had any balls, he would make her Worst Person in the World, but since she is on NBC’s payroll, he will chicken out.
Speedwagon82 on May 5, 2009 at 1:11 AM
The prez is so busy resetting our global relationships with the world that no one bothered to ask what the tax implications might be. Apparently “resetting” in some instances includes double taxation of corporations and playing the tuff with foreign countries and enterprises to render up what is Creaser’s.
Playing the tuff is so ugly in matters of national defense, not so much when collecting the coin of the realm.
moxie_neanderthal on May 5, 2009 at 1:18 AM
ooops…..
Apparently “resetting” in some instances includes double taxation of corporations and playing the tuff with foreign countries and enterprises to render up what is Caesar’s.
moxie_neanderthal on May 5, 2009 at 1:20 AM
Learned Hand:
“Anyone may arrange his affairs so that his taxes shall be as low as possible; he is not bound to choose that pattern which best pays the treasury. There is not even a patriotic duty to increase one’s taxes. Over and over again the Courts have said that there is nothing sinister in so arranging affairs as to keep taxes as low as possible. Everyone does it, rich and poor alike and all do right, for nobody owes any public duty to pay more than the law demands.”
Gregory v. Helvering 69 F.2d 809, 810 (2d Cir. 1934), aff’d, 293 U.S. 465, 55 S.Ct. 266, 79 L.Ed. 596 (1935).
dtestard on May 5, 2009 at 1:28 AM
The only two honourable professions left in the US are smuggling and tax evasion. Glad to see an issue that I can agree with Obama about.
JamesN on May 5, 2009 at 5:20 AM
+1
bluelightbrigade on May 5, 2009 at 7:52 AM
Eric Burnett to AP: “Is that a tax shelter in your pants, or are you just happy to see me?”
bluelightbrigade on May 5, 2009 at 8:00 AM
FIFMS (I really need to learn to type.)
bluelightbrigade on May 5, 2009 at 8:06 AM
Whoa! A guy could win the lottery and not be able to satisfy her tastes.
backwoods conservative on May 5, 2009 at 8:26 AM
The first sensible thing that bimbette has said. But, as much as MSNBC gets ridiculed for being a mouthpiece of the Obama party, CNBC is no different when it comes to Wall St so this is not exactly earth shattering.
angryed on May 5, 2009 at 8:38 AM
No company in the history of manking has paid a cent in taxes. Employees and customers pay taxes, not companies. Some people understand this. Most do not. Which is why Obama and Co. can demonize corporations and have the great unwashed American Idol watching imbeciles all across the land groan with approval.
angryed on May 5, 2009 at 8:42 AM
There are a number of us exchanging legal tender silver dollars and bullion for goods and services already. I give very substantial discounts (indexed to current spot prices) to people who pay me in silver dollars.
Fishoutofwater on May 5, 2009 at 9:00 AM
Damn right you have an “obligation” to pay as little tax as possible. Especially if you need that money to feed a family or pay your employees.
otcconan on May 5, 2009 at 9:16 AM
+a trillion here and a trillion there…
xiao_en on May 5, 2009 at 9:59 AM
Yup. Definitely monkey there.
ExTex on May 5, 2009 at 10:00 AM
Awesome
- The Cat
MirCat on May 5, 2009 at 10:25 AM
Meh. She once called the President of the United States a monkey. It’s tough to respect her after such a statement.
Kevin M on May 5, 2009 at 11:07 AM
I think she said something really nasty against Bush on the Scarborough show a year or two ago.
Chubbs65 on May 5, 2009 at 11:09 AM
Hey, was this article written by a grade-school dropout?
“Although Obama said he wants U.S. companies to be the most competitive in the world, but some businesspeople think the “crackdown” on tax shelters will be a hindrance to competitiveness.”
Sheesh. I’ll take a blogger over a ‘reporter’ any day.
Kevin M on May 5, 2009 at 11:10 AM
the video is broken. don’t bother.
pabarge on May 5, 2009 at 12:38 PM
Well, Sec of Treasury Geithner felt the same way.
kens on May 5, 2009 at 1:56 PM
Awesome indeed.
Aronne on May 5, 2009 at 1:59 PM
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