Why not use Card Check, Democrats?

posted at 9:51 am on May 2, 2009 by Ed Morrissey

Senate Democrats have hit the roof after discovering that Harry Reid’s deal with Arlen Specter to get him to switch parties, especially allowing Specter to keep his seniority.  The Senate Democratic Caucus has decided that Reid doesn’t have the last word on seniority and assignments and will take a vote on how to apply Specter’s seniority for committee assignments.  And with Card Check on the table, they have selected a rather ironic process for that decision:

“We’re going to do as we do every new Congress and pass an organizational resolution that will determine where everybody stands and that will give him an opportunity to find out who his pals are in the Senate,” Reid said at a question-and-answer session sponsored by The National Journal Group.

Senior Democrats who could lose a plum committee or subcommittee post to Specter would almost certainly vote against granting the seniority that he would have been granted as a Democrat elected in 1980.

One senior lawmaker who spoke to The Hill on condition of anonymity said that Reid does not have the power to let Specter keep his seniority earned as a Republican.

“That can’t happen; seniority is decided by the caucus,” said the lawmaker, who said Specter’s place in the pecking order would be decided by secret ballot during the organizational meeting expected after the 2010 election.

Decided by secret ballot. Now, why would they need to do that?  Why not just use the same process that the Democrats want to force on the American worker, where they have to publicly sign a card and make themselves accountable to their peers for their choice on whether to organize?  Have the Democrats suddenly discovered the vakue of a secret ballot in keeping undue pressure out of the election process?

It’s not the first time that Democrats have insisted on secret ballots in Congressional organizing votes, either.  Last November, Henry Waxman wrested the chair of the Energy and Commerce Committee from John Dingell in a House secret-ballot election, and Joe Lieberman kept his chair on Homeland Security after Senate Democrats determined not to punish him for his independent bid in another secret ballot.  Neither Democratic caucus wanted its members held individually accountable for their votes on either vote, and that’s exactly why we have secret-ballot elections in all circumstances.

Too bad the Democrats don’t think that working men and women deserve the same consideration they demand for themselves.

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they’re our RULERS..they’re better than us regular schmucks…be careful, it could be a HATE CRIME to denigrate our fuhrers…oops leaders..sorry..

right4life on May 2, 2009 at 9:54 AM

Why in the world would the democrats think that their own leadership would be honest in their dealings with their own members? The truth has always be irrelevant in every phase of their existence. Only brainwashed lemmings would be caught by surprise on Reid’s sell-out to Specter. This takes stupidity to the level of insanity.

volsense on May 2, 2009 at 9:57 AM

For the same reason that every congressman and senator has Tamiflu in their medicine cabinets and we don’t. You ain’t in the proper line.

Limerick on May 2, 2009 at 9:58 AM

They exempt themselves from FOIA, too.

Wethal on May 2, 2009 at 9:59 AM

Democrats: Beyond Parody.

amkun on May 2, 2009 at 9:59 AM

Decided by secret ballot.

Not card check.

Legislators have designated themselves with diplomatic immunity. They are such special people.

Cast electorate for peon caste.

maverick muse on May 2, 2009 at 10:01 AM

Until everyone on Capitol Hill has to live like an actual American, nothing in America will change. They shouldn’t be paid 130k for a part-time job (if you can call it even that). In fact, they should only get a basic allowance for traveling to DC and to their districts.

Force them to work in the market they’re destroying.

amkun on May 2, 2009 at 10:02 AM

Card check for thee but not for me

Religious_Zealot on May 2, 2009 at 10:02 AM

They’re above us. Remember, they can chastise private citizens for using corporate jets, but Nanny Pelosi is allowed to use one…& she’s allowed to send us the bill.

jgapinoy on May 2, 2009 at 10:03 AM

Don’t they realize that their hatred and intolerance will just drive free-thinkers out of their party and into the welcoming arms of the opposition?

Maybe he should have joined the Lieberman party.

JohnJ on May 2, 2009 at 10:03 AM

Do as I say, not as I do.

Queen0fCups on May 2, 2009 at 10:04 AM

The degree of hypocrisy is just getting ridiculous, even for liberals.

Everything from this administration and congress is “do as I say” (spending, transparency, energy usage, so-called bipartisanship)

Moxie on May 2, 2009 at 10:04 AM

“We’re going to do as we do every new Congress and pass an organizational resolution that will determine where everybody stands and that will give him an opportunity to find out who his pals are in the Senate,” Reid said

Exactly how do you find out who your “pals” are if there is a secret ballot?

Cindy Munford on May 2, 2009 at 10:06 AM

Let’s see politicians in Congress…..

Have a sweet healthcare plan not available to hard working Americans. Paid by us!

Give out bonuses to their staffs until all the money is spent, so they won’t lose it during the next fiscal year. Paid by US!

Dont have to pay into Social Security, like the rest of us.

Don’t have to pay taxes…LMAO

Vote themselves “automatic” pay raises in the dark of night. Paid by US!

Get 100% pension FOR LIFE just after 4 years in Congress. Paid by US!

Per Diem that is higher than any other Corporation gives to their employees. Paid by US!

Sweetheart deals with Corporations and lobbyists.. at our expense!

I’m convinced if they paid into Social Security that problem would be fixed quickly.

The list goes on and on.. Their mantra.. If it’s free I’ll take three from the taxpayers!

Anyone else want to add to this list?

Atlanta Media Guy on May 2, 2009 at 10:07 AM

The reality that pigs will act as pigs.

ericdijon on May 2, 2009 at 10:07 AM

We need to LITERALLY throw those bums out on their assess.

All of them.

artist on May 2, 2009 at 10:07 AM

Exactly how do you find out who your “pals” are if there is a secret ballot?

Cindy Munford on May 2, 2009 at 10:06 AM

The public will discover who the pals are the say way when the ballots are counted, disputed, recounted, late returns accepted, disputed some more and recounted until there is a hearing on how to properly count the mess blah blah blah.

ericdijon on May 2, 2009 at 10:09 AM

Who say Arlen can’t go to the head of the line?

Show of hands, please.

mchristian on May 2, 2009 at 10:10 AM

Don’t they realize that their hatred and intolerance will just drive free-thinkers out of their party and into the welcoming arms of the opposition?

Maybe he should have joined the Lieberman party.

JohnJ on May 2, 2009 at 10:03 AM

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Awesome! The Party of the Unwanted Fence Hoppers…
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RalphyBoy on May 2, 2009 at 10:10 AM

All these a-holes need to go. Term limits. I’m sick and tired of career politicians. They are only in the game for themselves and their own personal and political gains.

Vote ‘em all out. Republicans, Democrats…. same sh*t different letters.

Key West Reader on May 2, 2009 at 10:15 AM

Why does seniority matter anyway? Aren’t all states equal in the Senate? That’s one of the unfair advantages of incumbency – we can’t dump our senile idiot Senator, he has seniority!

zmdavid on May 2, 2009 at 10:16 AM

Let’s not work off the assumption that Demoncatz are rational, reasonably sentient beings.

blatantblue on May 2, 2009 at 10:16 AM

ericdijon on May 2, 2009 at 10:09 AM

Oh Silly, that only works for Republicans. Democrats never have to tell how they voted, especially to each other. I’m looking on the bright side though, not matter how the vote goes somebody is going to be upset and they will be looking at their “pals” wondering who shafted them. “Paranoia strikes deep, into your heart it will creep.” More popcorn!!!

Cindy Munford on May 2, 2009 at 10:21 AM

Don’t worry: Specter will start annoying the hell out of democrats to get back at them when he loses what Reid promised him.

Right_of_Attila on May 2, 2009 at 10:21 AM

Let’s not work off the assumption that Demoncatz are rational, reasonably sentient beings.

blatantblue on May 2, 2009 at 10:16 AM

Am watching the first Star Trek movie right now. Borgocrats for the win!

amkun on May 2, 2009 at 10:21 AM

Some animals are more important than others. It seems that the concept of “seniority” ought to have been hashed out in the Senate Rules, not by some party caucus not even recognized as existing by the Constitution.

unclesmrgol on May 2, 2009 at 10:26 AM

Don’t worry: Specter will start annoying the hell out of democrats to get back at them when he loses what Reid promised him.

Right_of_Attila on May 2, 2009 at 10:21 AM

Wouldn’t that be sweet? But I’m not counting on it.

PrincipledPilgrim on May 2, 2009 at 10:27 AM

“Atlanta Media Guy”…I can’t say anything behind that!

JoeySlippers on May 2, 2009 at 10:27 AM

Very well said, Ed. Hopefully Specter’s seniority will be a moot question after the 2010 elections.

Ordinary American on May 2, 2009 at 10:27 AM

Why not use the ACORN ballot?

Decide who they want to win, then stuff the ballot box right in front of everybody’s eyes.

fogw on May 2, 2009 at 10:28 AM

The dems gave given up on the concept of governing, now as the media said they will “RULE”.

The whole situation in this country is terrifying. Do what the dems say or ACORN thugs will picket your home (paid by the US)give up your assets or you will be threatened by the press….no doubt they would have published Chrysler’s bond holders addresses and stirred up the mobs at Obama’s bidding.

clnurnberg on May 2, 2009 at 10:29 AM

Too bad the Democrats don’t think that working men and women deserve the same consideration they demand for themselves.

Democrats believe that some animals are more equal than other animals. George Orwell would be so proud.

GarandFan on May 2, 2009 at 10:31 AM

I’m not sure which is the most disgusting . . . Reid, or the weakling Democrat senators that follow him around like obedient dogs.

rplat on May 2, 2009 at 10:38 AM

If Arlen Specious is denied seniority will he then leave the democrat party and become a spiteful independent?
Tune in the same time next week for the next installment of the congressional soap opera hour.

oldernwiser on May 2, 2009 at 10:38 AM

We do as they say, not as they do. That’s why they’re corrupt! :D

capejasmine on May 2, 2009 at 10:39 AM

Gang initiation, wonder if he’ll have to do a drive by too?

Podiums with Reid and Pelosi, MTP with Durbin, maybe next year he’ll be allowed to appear by himself.

It won’t just be Republicans who think of him as a traitor.

Speakup on May 2, 2009 at 10:43 AM

It defies logic to believe that term limits will ever become reality. That congress would vote to limit the extent of their power and perks is not rational. Their history is one of grabbing more power, not relinquishing it to the people they purport to serve.
I think our efforts are better spent in voting them out. Only then will the officeholders fear the electorate, as they should, and conform to their oaths of office and to the constitution. This won’t be easy. But the alternative is violent revolution and bloodletting. The status quo is no alternative.

SKYFOX on May 2, 2009 at 10:43 AM

There may some screeching and whining behind closed doors, but the Politburo members are still living better and higher than the average Americans they represent. This is all about jockeying for social position at the country club, not worrying about whether or not blue-collar commonfolk will be allowed to join.

If they’re willing to do this to themselves, what do the ‘rats have in store for the rest of us before November, 2010?

Bishop on May 2, 2009 at 10:45 AM

It is amazing that the conditions evolving now are so similar to the conditions that precipitated the French Revolution in 1789-1798. It is time for the bourgeois to tell the ruling classes, “you’re fired”.

volsense on May 2, 2009 at 11:06 AM

The question is how are we ever going to get term limits passed? These people will never let it go through, and we’re stuck with a lot of them for years to come. There must be some way to get them out?

scalleywag on May 2, 2009 at 11:11 AM

But of course an Elder Emir is granted so much! He is an Elder Emir of Inucumbistan, no?

Yes, we have learned so much from the Middle East these last decades that we now take part in assuring our Emirs get all the privileges they want and that we, the poor peons of Electistan, may plead for them to recognize some responsibility to our Vassal State. But, alas, these betters of the self-established Dynastic Parties do not need listen to Electistanis… or live under the laws they inflict on us for labor and safety and pay and being transparent…. so great and grand are the lovely baubles they vote themselves, no? And never once do they worry about the underlings, the great unwashed, footing the bill.

ajacksonian on May 2, 2009 at 11:14 AM

Voting doesn’t work, idiots keep winning elections. If they feel threatened, they switch parties.

scalleywag on May 2, 2009 at 11:15 AM

Dem’s just repeating things done in the past. Secret vote on what to do with Liberman after the election. Secret votes now, and in the future to be sure.

But lowly American’s workers aren’t smart enough to have a secret vote, it has to be a public vote so they can be coerced into voting the “right” way.

How do these people look at themselves in the mirror?

Hog Wild on May 2, 2009 at 11:16 AM

I am not surprised this is an issue. It’s outrageous that he continues with his senior positions.

He’s a Republican, for gosh sakes.

The Democrats must be livid.

AnninCA on May 2, 2009 at 11:17 AM

It’s beginning to seem that pointing out the rabid hypocrisy of the left just doesn’t matter. We’re arguing about the color of the curtains while the house burns down around us.

Wine_N_Dine on May 2, 2009 at 11:20 AM

Because Harry Reid and Nancy Pelosi are conniving little worms, that’s how these deals are done. They’ll stop at nothing, absolutely nothing, to see that their power stays intact. Even if they have to eat their own.

scalleywag on May 2, 2009 at 11:20 AM

Afraid you’re right Wine_N_Dine

scalleywag on May 2, 2009 at 11:21 AM

I hope Specter does lose the benefits of his seniority. It would serve him right for his treachery to be screwed over by his new teammates.

AZCoyote on May 2, 2009 at 11:23 AM

Everyone who hasn’t yet read Jim DeMint’s WSJ op-ed linked here at HotAir, check it out. The solution is not term limits, it is to push the power back to state and local governments.

This web site has links to Ron Paul, but regardless of what one thinks of him, this discussion of nullification merits consideration:

http://www.campaignforliberty.com/article.php?view=57

JackOkie on May 2, 2009 at 11:23 AM

Democrats=freedom for me, but not for thee…

doriangrey on May 2, 2009 at 11:27 AM

Another union victory I didn’t hear much about happened yesterday.

U.S. Court of Appeals rules decisions by the National Labor Relations Board last year are invalid.
When at full strength, the NLRB has five members. But it has operated with only two members and three vacancies for more than a year because Democrats who retook control of Congress in 2006 objected to President George W. Bush’s labor policies and refused to confirm his nominees.”

That means business’s will have to spend tons of money fighting in court, again, when unions use salting tactics because you can bet Obama will appoint three union mouthpieces to the positions and congress will readily approve them.

lowandslow on May 2, 2009 at 11:33 AM

Afraid you’re right Wine_N_Dine

scalleywag on May 2, 2009 at 11:21 AM

Yes! The dems are not interested at all about conservative ideals; they are protecting their constituency. As long as they reply with the proper nanner nanner, neener neener then their constituents will be satisfied that the properly told off the conservatives.

ericdijon on May 2, 2009 at 11:53 AM

Think anybody would really notice when they tally 118 votes for Spectre ?

CaveatEmpty on May 2, 2009 at 12:02 PM

I can’t help but notice the lack of trolls on this thread. Have they all banned themselves? Or maybe even the zombies can’t defend this.

mr.blacksheep on May 2, 2009 at 12:03 PM

I envision in my mind these wastes of oxygen (politicians) hung from poles all along the National Mall. Maybe I need anger management classes, or not.

SouthernGent on May 2, 2009 at 12:27 PM

Hee Hee. So, if Spincter doesn’t get his ‘seniority’, what then?
This is going to be a colossal mess. Pass the popcorn.

HornetSting on May 2, 2009 at 12:33 PM

Hypocrites all.

bluelightbrigade on May 2, 2009 at 12:51 PM

How dare you question the wisdom of Harry Reid? Silence you peasant!

angryed on May 2, 2009 at 1:03 PM

Term Limits!

Christian Conservative on May 2, 2009 at 1:07 PM

Maybe he’ll just announce that he’s switching back to the Republican party, what the hell.

Jeff on May 2, 2009 at 1:13 PM

It’s a very simple solution, to the irony problem, those democrap Senators who have signed up for Card Check abomination would have to vote without secrecy, those who have reservations or have come out against Card Check, would still receive a secret ballot.

eaglewingz08 on May 2, 2009 at 1:18 PM

With the Dems in charge of everything, the hilarity never stops.

If I didn’t worry about the long term health of the country, I’d be able to enjoy this train wreck a bit more.

cruadin on May 2, 2009 at 1:59 PM

Still say we need to translate “Do as I say and not as I do” into Latin and paste it on the picture of every Dem (and some Repubs).

Christian Conservative on May 2, 2009 at 2:43 PM

Democrats=freedom for me, but not for thee…

doriangrey on May 2, 2009 at 11:27 AM

Progressives=Liberty for me at the expense of thine.

Speakup on May 2, 2009 at 2:54 PM

If Specter is denied seniority, he will lose one of the strongest arguments he has for reelection. If Pennsylvania is given the chance between a freshman Specter or a freshman Toomey, it’s a new game. And Specter has baggage that can be dragged out of the closet and into the light of day.

njcommuter on May 2, 2009 at 3:10 PM

The hypocrisy of demorats is boundless….

t on May 2, 2009 at 3:28 PM

Silence you stinking peasant!….

FIFY

t on May 2, 2009 at 3:31 PM

It would be soooooo sweet if the traitor Specter loses all that seniority and stuff he was promised because it isn’t like the bastard can undeclare himself a Democrat at this point.

highhopes on May 2, 2009 at 5:09 PM

Decided by secret ballot. Now, why would they need to do that?

Why not just use the same process that the Democrats want to force on the American worker, where they have to publicly sign a card and make themselves accountable to their peers for their choice on whether to organize?

Heh. For that matter, Ed, why not solve all of this voter fraud and mystery and recounts, and just make all of our electoral votes public, too? We could just establish a data base of electronic votes, everyone could vote in every election from their home computer, and all of our votes would be a matter of public record!

It.Would.Be.Awesome!

Jaibones on May 2, 2009 at 5:52 PM

Gosh, wouldn’t it be a tragedy if Arlen ended up with no influence whatsoever in either party? That would be so sad for him.

For the rest of us, of course, it would be time to party!! That Karma… she is such a bitch, but I love her, God bless her!

drunyan8315 on May 2, 2009 at 6:20 PM

Some people are just more equal than others.

Schadenfreude on May 2, 2009 at 6:24 PM

Arlen, good news – there’s some hot babe on the line named “Karma”. She says she want to make love to you in the worst way. Oh wait, not exactly…

drunyan8315 on May 2, 2009 at 6:25 PM

Specter knows enough about the unwritten details of 11/22/63 to keep him in power forever, should he so choose.

Nothing else in his career explains his political longevity.

You’re welcome to him, Dems.

Have fun.

profitsbeard on May 3, 2009 at 1:12 AM

Anyone else think that there is something terribly wrong with the concept of seniority as a source of political power in our republic?

Count to 10 on May 3, 2009 at 9:37 AM

Spuck Fecter.

5u93rm4n on May 3, 2009 at 1:10 PM

Democrats: “What’s fair me me is not for thee.”

shick on May 3, 2009 at 3:04 PM