Quote of the day

posted at 10:00 pm on May 1, 2009 by Allahpundit

“Too often today, liberals are using below-the-belt tactics against conservatives and paying no price whatsoever. Meanwhile, those on the right like to pat themselves on the back for being above it all. This is like a boxer priding himself on never taking off his gloves while his opponent nearly beats him to death with his bare firsts. But in the end, there’s not much to be said for lovable losers. Conservatives should realize that fair play isn’t going to pay any dividends.

While we conservatives don’t have to stoop quite as low as the left has, we do need to start giving them a taste of their own medicine, if only to make them think twice about the way they’re treating our side…

We can say, ‘Gee, what if Bush had done this’ or ‘That’s a cheap shot’ all day long, but until our political opponents feel the brunt of the same savage incivility that it dishes out on a regular basis, nothing is going to change.”

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I wholeheartedly agree with Mr. Hawkins.

carbon_footprint on May 1, 2009 at 10:03 PM

conservatism has already lost the battle…we become a fascist state. its WAAAYYY too late….

right4life on May 1, 2009 at 10:03 PM

The truth is enough to defeat Liberals.

Now if the GOP only had the balls to tell the truth…

William Amos on May 1, 2009 at 10:04 PM

Amen. If it’s political war they want, we should be more than happy to oblige.

Nat Hound on May 1, 2009 at 10:04 PM

Every time we play as nasty as them we get banned from websites. Try a Michelle Klingon joke here and see.

p0s3r on May 1, 2009 at 10:05 PM

That’s why I like Ann, and Michelle, and Laura, and…
Wait a minute! Who’s wearing the pants in the conservative movement?

Randy
I like savage civility. ;)

williars on May 1, 2009 at 10:06 PM

(looking around nervously) Uh… Uh… Michelle is a beloved and wonderful FOTUS and, uh, I really like her shoes.

Punchenko on May 1, 2009 at 10:07 PM

Steele Sells out

Republican National Committee Chairman Michael Steele says the GOP can get back on a winning track by re-engaging with families and businesses and allowing moderates a place at the table.

William Amos on May 1, 2009 at 10:07 PM

Too often today, liberals are using below-the-belt tactics against conservatives and paying no price whatsoever. Meanwhile, those on the right like to pat themselves on the back for being above it all. This is like a boxer priding himself on never taking off his gloves while his opponent nearly beats him to death with his bare firsts. But in the end, there’s not much to be said for lovable losers. Conservatives should realize that fair play isn’t going to pay any dividends.

Is this about the Bush Adm.? Oh yeah… keep reading.

Upstater85 on May 1, 2009 at 10:09 PM

William Amos on May 1, 2009 at 10:07 PM

Bank on it. In 2012, Republicans will nominate a big government social conservative. Much like McCain or Bush.

lorien1973 on May 1, 2009 at 10:10 PM

I believe a number of us on this site have been trying to tell our “leadership” this exact point …………..

…………….. Take the damn gloves off, and fight for the future of this country!

Seven Percent Solution on May 1, 2009 at 10:10 PM

Eh…we just need a good candidate and the landslides will follow.

therightwinger on May 1, 2009 at 10:10 PM

But the GOP does need to be such a group of wimps.

therightwinger on May 1, 2009 at 10:10 PM

Evil requires the sanction of the victim.
Ayn Rand

javamartini on May 1, 2009 at 10:12 PM

Eh…we just need a good candidate and the landslides will follow.

therightwinger on May 1, 2009 at 10:10 PM

wishful thinking, especially after 20-40 MILLION more illegals become citizens…

it matters not who votes, but who counts the votes…joe stalin..

right4life on May 1, 2009 at 10:12 PM

For example, look at the media jihad that was shamelessly launched against Sarah Palin’s family. There was a not-so-subtle message being sent: if you’re a Republican woman, you better stay in the shadows or we’re going to destroy your family to get you. The left gave the same kind of intrusive, public scrutiny to “Joe the Plumber,” a private citizen who merely asked an inconvenient question to Barack Obama. While conservatives defended both Sarah and Joe as we complained incessantly about the way they were treated, the reality is that the Democrats paid no price whatsoever for the out-of-bounds attacks they were maligned by some of the right as merely responding to a populist appeal, or following a cult of personality.

The first point is very good, but go to battle with people you can trust, not the ones that will sell you out for their own gain.

Instead of continuing to complain, here’s a better idea. Why don’t conservatives do opposition research on the journalists endlessly running stories about Bristol Palin and Joe the Plumber?

That idea popped up at Ace’s some time ago.

Spirit of 1776 on May 1, 2009 at 10:14 PM

Amen…. I say, take no prisoners.

Seek and destroy. That is all the liberal bastards understand. Unleash hell on them.

purgatory on May 1, 2009 at 10:15 PM

Steele didn’t sell out:

Steele told reporters at the state GOP convention in La Crosse Friday evening that moderates are welcome but must understand the party’s core principles.

That sounds perfect.

Spirit of 1776 on May 1, 2009 at 10:16 PM

I could not agree more! Lets give them a bit of their own medicine.

HawaiiLwyr on May 1, 2009 at 10:17 PM

I agree, but they have the media, and that makes it a lot easier to fight dirty.

brak on May 1, 2009 at 10:17 PM

right4life on May 1, 2009 at 10:03 PM

Yup.

The game is over and we’re still deciding on which relief pitcher to bring in.

artist on May 1, 2009 at 10:17 PM

I agree, but they have the media, and that makes it a lot easier to fight dirty.

brak on May 1, 2009 at 10:17 PM

Blogs and Ads.

Upstater85 on May 1, 2009 at 10:18 PM

Yeah, it maybe past time to kick the leftist in the “malkins”. Hard.

Zorro on May 1, 2009 at 10:22 PM

The problem is that the Left expects nothing moral from their proponents. The most damaging thing that could come out about Olbermann is that he voted for Reagan.

Speedwagon82 on May 1, 2009 at 10:23 PM

Yea, a year or so ago, I might have disagreed. But what the Dem’s are doing seem’s almost like they consider us less than human. I guess I kept hoping those who voted for these hacks (Franks, Pelosi, Ried, Dodd, etc) would have their eye’s open, but maybe that’s the kind of thing they believed in the first place.

Dish it out, no holding back.

Hog Wild on May 1, 2009 at 10:23 PM

In the words of noted military hero Jean-Luc Picard

I will not sacrifice the Enterprise. We’ve made too many compromises already; too many retreats. They invade our space and we fall back. They assimilate entire worlds and we fall back. Not again. The line must be drawn here! This far, no further! And *I* will make them pay for what they’ve done.

Nat Hound on May 1, 2009 at 10:24 PM

The problem is that the Left expects nothing moral from their proponents. The most damaging thing that could come out about Olbermann is that he voted for Reagan.

Speedwagon82 on May 1, 2009 at 10:23 PM

Yeah, so start exposing them for what they are. Every time we give them the chance to gloat about “civil liberties” is a negative for the conservative movement. Call them out and show the world the fascists they are.

Upstater85 on May 1, 2009 at 10:25 PM

The truth is enough to defeat Liberals.

Now if the GOP only had the balls to tell the truth…

William Amos on May 1, 2009 at 10:04 PM

Yes, I agree. Like McCarthy. Like Miss CA. Like the lady who declined Notre Dame. Problem is none of it gets any MSM media play.

PrincipledPilgrim on May 1, 2009 at 10:26 PM

I like idea of returning the favor to the MSM. Lets do to them what they do to us.

p0s3r on May 1, 2009 at 10:30 PM

I like idea of returning the favor to the MSM. Lets do to them what they do to us.

p0s3r on May 1, 2009 at 10:30 PM

So you’d have us defecate on our television screen every night?

Upstater85 on May 1, 2009 at 10:31 PM

I’m down with it. As El Rushbo says “They use our virtue against us.” Let’s gouge some eyes.

Dukeboy01 on May 1, 2009 at 10:32 PM

carbon_footprint on May 1, 2009 at

+1000

Time to smear the smear merchants

canditaylor68 on May 1, 2009 at 10:32 PM

I totally agree. We have been carefully to rise above for many years. Some on the left might find that laughable, but it is a matter of relativity. They have been far more vicious than we. We have attacked, but we have restrained our attacks and our tone far more than they can realize.

Dr. Manhattan on May 1, 2009 at 10:33 PM

Time to smear the smear merchants…

canditaylor68 on May 1, 2009 at 10:32 PM

Conservative’s version of TMZ??? Sounds fun.

Upstater85 on May 1, 2009 at 10:33 PM

Push Here, Upstater85. LOL.

Dukeboy01 on May 1, 2009 at 10:34 PM

We should be as mean & nasty & as angry as Ronald Reagan.

jgapinoy on May 1, 2009 at 10:37 PM

We should be as mean & nasty & as angry as Ronald Reagan.

jgapinoy on May 1, 2009 at 10:37 PM

Do you want to be labeled a ______nut? /s

Upstater85 on May 1, 2009 at 10:37 PM

Oh give me a break… conservatives NEED to be dirtier? What a crock of shit.

Conservatives had a chance to promote frugal excellent government and they had a chance when the economy and fiscal health of the country was in pretty good condition. They fucked up and that is why they are out of power. To suggest that conservatives need to play dirtier in order to get ahead is contemptible. They need to do better and provide good governance to the public. It starts locally and grows from there. The ideals are sound but they need to execute and get results in office.

lexhamfox on May 1, 2009 at 10:38 PM

Conservatives had a chance to promote frugal excellent government and they had a chance when the economy and fiscal health of the country was in pretty good condition. They fucked up and that is why they are out of power. To suggest that conservatives need to play dirtier in order to get ahead is contemptible. They need to do better and provide good governance to the public. It starts locally and grows from there. The ideals are sound but they need to execute and get results in office.

lexhamfox on May 1, 2009 at 10:38 PM

Yes and no. They became feel-good conservatives in these times. They didn’t want to upset the MSM. They wanted to go with the flow. They should have stood up for what they may have once believed in… but instead they coward and ran.

Upstater85 on May 1, 2009 at 10:41 PM

Where’s the bucks folks. We need a Soros@!@

PaCadle on May 1, 2009 at 10:42 PM

This can’t be the real quote of the day, can it? Nobody is bitching and moaning about Allahpundit posting it. WTF?

Good QOTD, Allah. Thanks.

hillbillyjim on May 1, 2009 at 10:42 PM

Give ‘em Dirty Laundry.
If that’s what they want, sell it from ads in local markets.

Put some of the good clips we run across into a late night (0:00-5:00 am) ‘Paid Programming’ format.

Add some features like home videos of the goofy crap the libturds do/say (ala Jason? at the Demon convention) and run the stuff for 1-2 weeks locally.

We can get local support from small business owners to ply their wares, even if it’s just 30 sec spots during the slot.

Then, do business with those guys. Support them back. (Or, in typical libby-lou fashion = ‘pay it forward’)

We can get enough of these broadcasts going, exchange the clips and “bag ‘em in the face”.
The stations make some dough, sure, but we make inroads all the same and likely gain an ally or two along the way. And, it’ll be fun!

I mean, we got cameras, right? Track these ghoul loving c**k su**kers down and expose them for the tools they are. If you have to go all Go-Rilla on them, neat!

OkieDoc on May 1, 2009 at 10:56 PM

While I definitely understand the sentiment I don’t think it’s possible for us to get close to the level of scummery the left sinks to on a daily basis.

First we don’t have the media to back us up and shill for us. Instead they’d do everything they could to paint US as the bad guys while they paint as truth telling saints Liberals who do worse (like out supposedly gay Republicans).

Secondly I just don’t think we have it in us to be what the left is. Can you imagine starting a rumor that one of Obama’s children were not his? I know I wouldn’t be able to do something like that and I doubt anyone here could do that either.

As another poster said, the Truth is enough to win. And we have the Truth on our side. Now we just need a Republican with the guts to tell that Truth and tell it without being afraid.

Kronos on May 1, 2009 at 10:58 PM

It was May Day in Union Square today. I got outside the station to head to 2nd Ave and heard the protest. I couldn’t make out what was being said, and surely wasnt going to waste any time in the rain giving them a closer look. I asked the first cop I saw on the street.

“Some immigrant….uhhh…”

I interrupted,

“oh with labor too right?”

“Uhhhh i dont know…some liberals.”

We smiled, I said it was May Day, theres venezuelan flags out , they must be celebrating communism. Theres people everywhere, even NYC, that get it…at least that projecting anything but contempt to the real idiotic liberals is a waste of time.

Fun times, come visit NY y’all!

ernesto on May 1, 2009 at 11:01 PM

This article is spot on! This is what we have been bitching about for years!

conservnut on May 1, 2009 at 11:01 PM

A good start would be for all of the pussies on the right who are scared to talk about the fact that a dual mational (or anyone that ever was a dual national) is ineligible for the Presidency and that the SCOTUS ought to hear the case about why The Precedent must be tossed out of office. The upcoming Senate hearings for the SCOTUS appointment offer an excellent time to air this problem out. I just wish that all the pansies who trembled at the idea of forcing the idiot messiah to prove that he is eligible for the office, that he is using to destroy our nation, finally get their heads out of their azzes and realize that this is a fight for the very existence of our country, a fight more dire than even the War Between the States. This country will not survive what the lunatic left want to do – WILL NOT SURVIVE. Try and comprehend that fact and come out swinging at these despicable, lying, America-hating scum on the left, already.

progressoverpeace on May 1, 2009 at 11:01 PM

right4life on May 1, 2009 at 10:03 PM

conservatism has already lost the battle…we become a fascist state. its WAAAYYY too late….

We have lost many battles, but not the war.

We are not yet a fascists state, and we must speak out and take actions to ensure that we do not become one.

It is only too late if we give in.

Loxodonta on May 1, 2009 at 11:01 PM

Someone should have informed McCain when it mattered more.

Spiritk9 on May 1, 2009 at 11:02 PM

Sadly when we try the results are all to predictable. Talk show host Jay Severin (WTKK 96.9 in Boston) was suspended yesterday for making derogatory comments about criminalien Mexicans and the swine flu insanity. Here’s a link to a Boston Globe (owned by the NYT) hit piece about the suspension. The folks that complained are professional victum, open border, hate speech zealots that exist off our dime. All Hail!

dmann on May 1, 2009 at 11:03 PM

If you love it, fight for it. Stand up and fight.

faraway on May 1, 2009 at 11:03 PM

Someone should have informed McCain when it mattered more.

Spiritk9 on May 1, 2009 at 11:02 PM

People tried and tried and tried and tried … But McCain had a thing for the idiot messiah.

progressoverpeace on May 1, 2009 at 11:04 PM

Where’s the bucks folks. We need a Soros@!@

PaCadle on May 1, 2009 at 10:42 PM

We had T. Boone Pickens. He was a major Republican supporter and donated to conservative causes. Haven’t heard much about him except his energy plan.

Lay-Z on May 1, 2009 at 11:06 PM

William Amos on May 1, 2009 at 10:07 PM

Republican National Committee Chairman Michael Steele says the GOP can get back on a winning track by re-engaging with families and businesses and allowing moderates a place at the table.

I don’t mind moderates having a place at the table. But I want the meal planned, prepared and served by conservatives, the table set by conservatives, and grace said by conservatives.

Loxodonta on May 1, 2009 at 11:07 PM

Instead of continuing to complain, here’s a better idea. Why don’t conservatives do opposition research on the journalists endlessly running stories about Bristol Palin and Joe the Plumber? Have they ever been arrested? Whom do they own property with? Have they ever been paid to do a speech for someone and then run a favorable news story about him? Certainly Keith Olbermann’s personal life is just as newsworthy as Joe the Plumber’s, and the details of Maureen Dowd’s life are just as noteworthy as those of Bristol Palin — are they not?

That is actually a pretty good idea.

conservnut on May 1, 2009 at 11:08 PM

lexhamfox on May 1, 2009 at 10:38 PM

Yep, we governed horrendously when we were in power and we’re now paying for it in political clout and our future fiscal outlook.

lowandslow on May 1, 2009 at 11:10 PM

We had T. Boone Pickens. He was a major Republican supporter and donated to conservative causes. Haven’t heard much about him except his energy plan.

Lay-Z on May 1, 2009 at 11:06 PM

T. Boone thought he was going to have an ally in Obama with his windmills. I think that he got a no go on the infrastructure necessary though. Why exactly, I don’t know but that was last I heard.

It serves most of these banks, wall street types and other financiers that thought Obama was going to help promote a capitalist agenda.

msmveritas on May 1, 2009 at 11:10 PM

The GOP needs to grow a pair, no one ever wins a fight by being nice.

infidel4life on May 1, 2009 at 11:14 PM

Yep, we governed horrendously when we were in power and we’re now paying for it in political clout and our future fiscal outlook.

lowandslow on May 1, 2009 at 11:10 PM

I disagree. GOP governance wasn’t even a blip compared to what the left has done in 100 days. What killed the GOP was that stupid push for amnesty, and then nominating the moron who was behind it. Other than that, it was an even game, at worst. Bush won in 2004 because he was for staying in Iraq, and nothing else, really. Kerry wanted to bug out and that freaked out America. But, once the GOP pushed that traitorous amnesty (for absolutely no reason, whatsoever) that was the end of the GOP, and many people were saying it at the time. That was when people first started leaving the GOP in big numbers.

The shamnesty started the death spiral of the GOP and the credit crisis (interestingly, only getting really going after the dems took over Congress and the purse strings after the first amnesty fiasco in 2006) and associated TARP insanity put the nail in the coffin. The neo-Pavda media just sealed the deal.

progressoverpeace on May 1, 2009 at 11:17 PM

Reciprocity today! Reciprocity tomorrow! Reciprocity forever!

TheBigOldDog on May 1, 2009 at 11:19 PM

Today this black guy and Asian woman and I got into it with some of the May Day protestors in Downtown L A. We weren’t together but were walking in the same direction because the buses had been rerouted so that the streets could be blocked off so all these illegals and their enablers could protest against law abiding Americans. LA is a joke and out Mayor Villaraigosa is a bigger joke who just sailed into reelection despite being in an adulterous affair, leaving his wife and being so far up the unions you know what that the City is going bankrupt. Anyway the three of us were trying to walk back to our offices and we were having a hard time at one point because a bunch of kids were waving signs and blocking the street. I got mad and told them that they were cowards because instead of cleaning up the countries they came from where they would be killed for protesting they had broken into ours, taken advantage of our system to the point where the educational and almost every other social service agency in CA is broke or getting broke and then they had the nerve to insult us and make demands?! The black guy said that they had stolen jobs that blacks used to do on their way up and made it much more difficult for their kids to get ahead or to pay for schooling. The Asian woman said she emigrated legally lived in a small apartment with lots of others until she saved enough to go to school and has never asked an American for anything… she worked for it. So anyway these protestors (15 to 25 years old) didn’t make reasonable arguments because they couldn’t they just started yelling profanities at us and so other American who were also getting frustrated became embolden by us standing up instead of just walking away silently like we usually do and I decided to leave because I figured things were getting hot enough to start a riot and here in LA, thanks to Villaraigosa if you even touch an illegal you get sued and the city pays . He just gave a bunch of bandana wearing hoodlums who fought with police two years ago 13 million dollars. It felt good to say something to these people and I think they were very surprised that we challenged them. I’m sick of this crap. I see it everyday, parts of LA could easily be mistaken for Tijuana. So I agree totally with this article that we need to fight by whatever means necessary to win.

CCRWM on May 1, 2009 at 11:26 PM

We can say, ‘Gee, what if Bush had done this’ or ‘That’s a cheap shot’ all day long, but until our political opponents feel the brunt of the same savage incivility that it dishes out on a regular basis, nothing is going to change.”

Amen to that. No offense to the minds behind this blog — it’s excellent — but think about the number of threads dealing with the latest lib slam on this or that conservative. Defense instead of offense.

ddrintn on May 1, 2009 at 11:28 PM

progressoverpeace on May 1, 2009 at 11:17 PM

I don’t get your argument, Obama won by 10 million votes. We lost an additional 21 house seats and eight Senate seats. That was because of amnesty?

lowandslow on May 1, 2009 at 11:29 PM

Where’s the bucks folks. We need a Soros@!@

PaCadle on May 1, 2009 at 10:42 PM

No, but another Lee Atwater would be good to have if full on polemical is called for…

elgeneralisimo on May 1, 2009 at 11:29 PM

Yep, we governed horrendously when we were in power and we’re now paying for it in political clout and our future fiscal outlook.

lowandslow on May 1, 2009 at 11:10 PM

And as penance we’re just supposed to shut up while the idiot left make a shambles?

ddrintn on May 1, 2009 at 11:31 PM

progressoverpeace on May 1, 2009 at 11:01 PM

No freaking kidding. I for one will never give up that subject until I get the truth. Ridiculed or not from my supposed brethren.

mrsmwp on May 1, 2009 at 11:37 PM

I don’t get your argument, Obama won by 10 million votes. We lost an additional 21 house seats and eight Senate seats. That was because of amnesty?

lowandslow on May 1, 2009 at 11:29 PM

By my reckoning, yes. The shamnesty killed the morale on the right and McCain killed whatever enthusiasm might have been left. I remember how everyone was talking about the death of the GOP during the shamnesty and changing our party affiliation (I tossed the GOP then). I can’t think of a single person who had enthusiasm for the GOP after the shamnesty. Not a one, really … well, except for the McCainiacs – all 6 of them.

I’m just telling you how it appears to me. I have no doubt, myself, that shamnesty (for the most part) did it. Many of us predicted, at the time, that it would be the death of the GOP and it did come to be.

progressoverpeace on May 1, 2009 at 11:38 PM

CCRWM on May 1, 2009 at 11:26 PM

Wow, that was incredibly awesome and brave. (stupid and dangerous too but luckily you didn’t get jumped!)

mrsmwp on May 1, 2009 at 11:38 PM

And as penance we’re just supposed to shut up while the idiot left make a shambles?

ddrintn on May 1, 2009 at 11:31 PM

Where did I write that? But since you brought it up, we can get as nasty as we want for the next two to four years and it won’t change anything. Obama’s and Congress’s failures will. People that sway elections vote from their pocketbook.

lowandslow on May 1, 2009 at 11:38 PM

I’m just telling you how it appears to me. I have no doubt, myself, that shamnesty (for the most part) did it. Many of us predicted, at the time, that it would be the death of the GOP and it did come to be.

progressoverpeace on May 1, 2009 at 11:38 PM

Absolutely right. It was a sickening low blow to Americans and legal immigrants.

mrsmwp on May 1, 2009 at 11:40 PM

Why don’t conservatives do opposition research on the journalists endlessly running stories about Bristol Palin and Joe the Plumber? Have they ever been arrested? Whom do they own property with? Have they ever been paid to do a speech for someone and then run a favorable news story about him?

Best idea of the day! Love to see some dirt on the treasonous trash at ABC News.

Feedie on May 1, 2009 at 11:40 PM

He said that when you’re being attacked, the aggressor sets the rules and if you want to survive, you have to play by those rules.

When you’re being attacked, the aggressor will try to sets the rules, don’t let them and if you want to survive win, you have to play by those rules use superior tactics, superior will and help your enemy choose to defeat them self.

Speakup on May 1, 2009 at 11:41 PM

progressoverpeace on May 1, 2009 at 11:38 PM

In a perfect world the amnesty debacle should have killed any chance of a McCain nomination from the party, it didn’t. I don’t think it had much of an effect in the general election.

lowandslow on May 1, 2009 at 11:42 PM

CCRWM on May 1, 2009 at 11:26 PM

Good for you, thank you for standing up. Folks we all need to grow a pair like our friend here and confront these clowns everyday!

conservnut on May 1, 2009 at 11:43 PM

This is like a boxer priding himself on never taking off his gloves while his opponent nearly beats him to death with his bare firsts. But in the end, there’s not much to be said for lovable losers. Conservatives should realize that fair play isn’t going to pay any dividends.

Hey, Liberals! You know what you are? Just a punch of dirty sons of b-i-t-c-h-e-s! You know what else? Huh? Huh? Whoever tries to beat Tuco to death and leaves Tuco alive, he understands nothing about Tuco.

Tuco on May 1, 2009 at 11:44 PM

Yep, we governed horrendously when we were in power and we’re now paying for it in political clout and our future fiscal outlook.

lowandslow on May 1, 2009 at 11:10 PM

We didn’t govern horrendously–in fact, President Bush and the Republican Congress governed so well that the electorate got spoiled and decided that they had the luxury of voting for DemocRats again, many of whom ran as “conservatives” to get elected/re-elected.
You have only to look at the state of affairs now to get a picture of how well Republicans govern vs. DemocRats.
And McCain was a lousy, lousy candidate who didn’t fight for one minute to be President.

I’m sick of the navel gazing while our country goes down the Leftist, fascist toilet!
Let’s fight clean, dirty or in between but for God sake’s fight!
Go to the Tea Parties, call, mail or email your Senators and Congressmen on every issue and vote, but please stop forming the circular firing squad of Conservatives and Republicans!

Jenfidel on May 1, 2009 at 11:44 PM

Off Topic:
Active duty Air Force just informed the Info Warrior show that he was informed by his superiors that they have heightened alert due to possible Marshall Law scenario.

Just passing on the info.

True_King on May 1, 2009 at 11:45 PM

I agree: Take out the Long Knives, and start carving up some Lefty Meat: Lots of tasty bits are there for the taking

The line about the attacker setting the rules is only half the lesson: the defender can CHANGE THE RULES with effective decisive action and adequate weapons.

Attackers have an initial advantage, but often overplay their hand

Remember the Democrats 1993-4

Janos Hunyadi on May 1, 2009 at 11:50 PM

It’s a two prong issue. Elected officials and the GOP can’t be associated with the type of dirty work it’s going to take to level the playing field. They should just sit back and do a good job at conservative governance.

This is going to sound odd. Basically, what we need is for someone outside of government to build a 21st century version of Nixon’s plumbers. Some ultra-rich donor funding the new version of G. Gordon Liddy that can be turned loose on deserving targets. But the key is, it has to be outside the government so everyone who counts has plausible deniability. That was the mistake Nixon made.

Conservatives would much rather win in the marketplace of ideas, but if this is how the left wants to play, well, we should show them just how far we can go…

Nat Hound on May 1, 2009 at 11:51 PM

True_King on May 1, 2009 at 11:45 PM

Link?

conservnut on May 1, 2009 at 11:51 PM

it’s “martial law”…………

Marshall was FDR’s Chairman of the Joint Staffs of Chief, as that Rush caller described them

Janos Hunyadi on May 1, 2009 at 11:52 PM

This is like a boxer priding himself on never taking off his gloves while his opponent nearly beats him to death with his bare firsts.

Vengeance victorious
Soon now they will gaze on our Goddess of Justice
With her shimmering, glimmering blade
As she kisses these tyrants she will sing them a last serenade

Sing, swing
Savor the sting

Our Lady of Justice will possess them
In her breathtaking, hair-raising bed
She will tingle their spines
As she captures what’s left of their heads

PercyB on May 1, 2009 at 11:57 PM

That idea popped up at Ace’s some time ago.

Spirit of 1776 on May 1, 2009 at 10:14 PM

Thanks for noticing.

OneEyedJack on May 1, 2009 at 11:58 PM

I think Hawkins nailed it.

“Show me a good loser and I’ll show you a loser.”

warbaby on May 2, 2009 at 12:00 AM

In a perfect world the amnesty debacle should have killed any chance of a McCain nomination from the party,

Forget the perfect world. If McCain had had any sense of integrity, at all, he would have pulled out of the primaries after his signature legislation caused such problems in the party and was so roundly rejected. We fought the Senate off like has not happened before. If McCain were a mensch, he would ahve realized that he was out of sync with the base and just dropped out. But, if McCain were a mensch, he never would have been in favor of the shamnesty, let alone tried to shove it down our throats, int he first place.

Even his mother knew what it all meant. She said that we would have to hold our noses and vote for him. She should have told her jerk-off son to quit the race.

it didn’t. I don’t think it had much of an effect in the general election.

lowandslow on May 1, 2009 at 11:42 PM

Okay. We just disagree on this.

progressoverpeace on May 2, 2009 at 12:01 AM

Up here in hockey country there’s a locker room saying that goes like this: If you can’t beat ‘em in the alley, you won’t beat ‘em on the ice.

The Donks know this and the GOP doesn’t.

Game over.

Bruno Strozek on May 2, 2009 at 12:02 AM

Time to take of the tweed jacket with suede elbow patches, and put on the steel-toes nut busters.

I and many others have been arguing a reciprocity approach to dealing with the left for quite some time. If someone wants to argue facts or philosophy, come prepared with same and win in the arena of ideas.

But if the other side wants to ball kick, wear a cup and bring the steel toes.

And if they want to intimidate, like the anti prop 8 groups in CA that listed donors names and addresses, leaving them victim to the loosest cannons of their cause, well……

OneEyedJack on May 2, 2009 at 12:04 AM

True_King on May 1, 2009 at 11:45 PM

Link?

conservnut on May 1, 2009 at 11:51 PM

It was a call, I just heard the call 1/2 hour ago. It was legit.

Here is another story that is pertinent to my original post. The WHO is considering raising threat level to 6.
http://ibnlive.in.com/news/who-to-raise-alert-level-as-h1n1-virus-spread/91546-17.html

That means a serious threat of Marshall Law, as well as forced vaccinations, if you refuse a vaccination you get fined 250,000 fine and jail time, and Bush’s genius SPP says that we will be under UN law.

True_King on May 2, 2009 at 12:06 AM

dmann on May 1, 2009 at 11:03 PM

The Globe sucks.
I definitely recommend the article from the Herald – the comments are fantastic.

‘Hateful’ tone keeps Jay Severin on WTKK sidelines
During Monday’s show, when talking about the swine flu, Severin called Mexicans crossing the Arizona border “criminaliens,” said hospital emergency rooms had become “condos for Mexicans,” and called the virus a “swine-aka-Janet Napolitano flu,” according to WTKK’s online recording.

Severin also called Mexican immigrants the “lowest of primitives,” called one of Mexico’s biggest “exports” “women with mustaches and VD,” said Mexicans don’t practice hygiene, called Mexicans “leeches” and said their kids aren’t vaccinated, don’t speak English and “retard” U.S. Schools

http://www.bostonherald.com/news/regional/view.bg?articleid=1169315

racecar05 on May 2, 2009 at 12:08 AM

Nat Hound on May 1, 2009 at 11:51 PM

The trouble is most of us have to go to work and raise families. This affords a huge advantage to the likes of the Soros funded gangs who can do the sort of work you suggest and get paid as well.

moxie_neanderthal on May 2, 2009 at 12:08 AM

I don’t get your argument, Obama won by 10 million votes. We lost an additional 21 house seats and eight Senate seats. That was because of amnesty?

lowandslow on May 1, 2009 at 11:29 PM

By my reckoning, yes. The shamnesty killed the morale on the right and McCain killed whatever enthusiasm might have been left. I remember how everyone was talking about the death of the GOP during the shamnesty and changing our party affiliation (I tossed the GOP then). I can’t think of a single person who had enthusiasm for the GOP after the shamnesty. Not a one, really … well, except for the McCainiacs – all 6 of them.

I’m just telling you how it appears to me. I have no doubt, myself, that shamnesty (for the most part) did it. Many of us predicted, at the time, that it would be the death of the GOP and it did come to be.

progressoverpeace on May 1, 2009 at 11:38 PM

It wasn’t amnesty, it wasn’t McCain, it wasn’t Palin, it wasn’t Obama. It fell apart with the Lehman Brothers bankruptcy and TARP. I think McCain might well have won otherwise.

But since you brought it up, we can get as nasty as we want for the next two to four years and it won’t change anything. Obama’s and Congress’s failures will. People that sway elections vote from their pocketbook.

lowandslow on May 1, 2009 at 11:38 PM

We can play nicey-nice above-the-fray too and it will change even less.

ddrintn on May 2, 2009 at 12:09 AM

Okay. We just disagree on this.

progressoverpeace on May 2, 2009 at 12:01 AM

Can’t believe I’m agreeing with lowandslow, but…the Conservative base didn’t stay home because of amnesty, however McCain/Palin lost a huge bloc of the Hispanic vote because they didn’t want to vote for the Republicans given the way so many of them acted during the immigration reform debate.
Word.
I know how virulently angry the idea of amnesty makes a good deal of you, but President Bush wasn’t proposing amnesty (he said as much how many times?) and it’s the closest we’ll ever come to closing the borders.
Note how NObama wouldn’t do it even with the threat of a flu pandemic from Mexico…
Hate to say it, but the “amnesty” debate showed a good deal of the American conservative electorate at their ugliest.
Just saying.
President Bush got 44% of the Hispanic vote–McCain didn’t.
It could have been enough to make for an Ogabe victory because NObama came across as the illegals’ best friend and McCain did not.

Jenfidel on May 2, 2009 at 12:09 AM

Fantastic clip. Off to read the rest.

capitalist piglet on May 2, 2009 at 12:13 AM

True_King on May 2, 2009 at 12:06 AM

Our Presidents lack of record, and the people he has surrounded himself with, and what he’s managed to do to this country in 102 days, gives cause for concern. Is this a real health crises, or are the facts being hyped yet again to make the case for “government as savior” by ratcheting up the anxiety level ?
When one’s honesty and motivation is in doubt, everything is.

OneEyedJack on May 2, 2009 at 12:13 AM

That means a serious threat of Marshall Law
True_King on May 2, 2009 at 12:06 AM

Janos is right: it’s MARTIAL law, meaning using the military.
It’s only pronounced like “Marshall.”

And I’m not believing any hysteria coming from a severe Paultard like you!

Jenfidel on May 2, 2009 at 12:13 AM

The trouble is most of us have to go to work and raise families. This affords a huge advantage to the likes of the Soros funded gangs who can do the sort of work you suggest and get paid as well.

moxie_neanderthal on May 2, 2009 at 12:08 AM

No, I mean paid, trained, full-time, dirty tricksters, separate and apart from any government or elected official. Political black-ops, as it were.

For e

Nat Hound on May 2, 2009 at 12:13 AM

Way to repeat what I spent 8 years scolding Bush for, and entire campaign scolding McCain for.

RightWinged on May 2, 2009 at 12:13 AM

It is only too late if we give in.

Loxodonta on May 1, 2009 at 11:01 PM

I remember times full of restlessness and fury
I remember nights when we were drunk on dreams
I remember days of hungering for the glory
I remember them

Into darkness, into danger
Into storms that rip the night
Don’t give in, don’t give up
But give thanks for the glorious fight!

Never hold back your step for a moment
Never doubt that your spirit will grow
Yes, it’s higher and higher
And into the fire we will go!

PercyB on May 2, 2009 at 12:16 AM

If you love it, fight for it. Stand up and fight.

faraway on May 1, 2009 at 11:03 PM

We will hold on
We will get through
We will not die
Away from the Red, White and Blue
I don’t know how
I don’t know when
But we will see
Our home restored again

Hold on til then
Oh, wait for me!
We will be free
And home again

PercyB on May 2, 2009 at 12:21 AM

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