Enabling the Spanish Inquisition?

posted at 12:12 pm on May 1, 2009 by Ed Morrissey

Last month, I wrote that the effort by Spain to indict Bush administration officials over their actions during wartime would present Barack Obama an opportunity to defend American sovereignty.  My former co-blogger, Dafydd ab Hugh, writes today that not only has Obama failed to do so, but may have actively undermined it with his documents release.  And Dafydd isn’t entirely convinced it wasn’t deliberate.  He picks up on a statement from Eric Holder that sounds very much like surrender:

In speaking to reporters Wednesday, [Attorney General Eric] Holder also said it is possible the United States could cooperate with a foreign court’s investigation of Bush administration officials.

Holder spoke before the announcement that a Spanish magistrate had opened an investigation of Bush officials on harsh interrogation methods. Holder didn’t rule out cooperating in such a probe.

“Obviously, we would look at any request that would come from a court in any country and see how and whether we should comply with it,” Holder said.

“This is an administration that is determined to conduct itself by the rule of law and to the extent that we receive lawful requests from an appropriately created court, we would obviously respond to it,” he said.

Any country?  For any purpose?  Holder only committed to “look” at such requests, but for what purpose?  A proper response would be to instruct other countries on the meaning of sovereignty and ask them to refer any inquiries to the State Department.  That’s where diplomatic inquiries belong, and prosecutorial inquiries shouldn’t be considered at all.

Dafydd sees surrender to the Spanish Inquisition in the making, and for a pupose:

If Garzón has legal authority to demand we hand over evidence, he also has legal authority to demand we hand over “war criminals,” from American military personnel, to John Yoo, to Jay Bybee, to William Haynes, to Douglas Feith, to Alberto Gonzales, to Richard Myers, to Dick Cheney — even to former President George W. Bush himself.

This is even more outrageous than the suggestion that we prosecute any of these individuals ourselves, or that we form a “truth commission” and haul them before it for public show trials. This is, in essence, outsourcing the prosecution of the previous administration to foreign courts. Call it “extraordinary judicion.”

If we ever once accept that a European court — and not even a recognized “international” one! — has jurisdiction over actions committed by American officials here in the United States, and can prosecute them for “crimes” that are not even recognized here, then we have crossed a line from which we can never retreat: The United States will cease to be a sovereign power.

If Eric Holder and Barack Obama accept this idea, they will actually have brought about what used to be a paranoid fantasy among the John Birch Society and other lunatics — “one-world government,” run according to European, not American rules.

Again, as I wrote last month, such machinations are an insult to American sovereignty.  The Obama administration has a duty to defend American sovereignty and to stop old colonial powers (heh) from imposing their laws on other nations.  That’s the height of arrogance, and if Barack Obama doesn’t want to stand up to it, Congress should demand to know why Obama and Holder are cooperating with an attempt by Spain to impose their laws on American citizens.  It goes against everything for which this nations stands.


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In Obama’s Utopia … Americans are the enemy.

OhEssYouCowboys on May 1, 2009 at 12:14 PM

Dispicable despot, oh and Spain sucks too.

Torch on May 1, 2009 at 12:14 PM

Unbelievable. Unthinkable, even. What in the hell is going on with my country?

Otis B on May 1, 2009 at 12:15 PM

OhEssYouCowboys on May 1, 2009 at 12:14 PM

Exactly.

progressoverpeace on May 1, 2009 at 12:15 PM

“Spanish courts don’t have standing in this matter.” What a sane AG might say.

forest on May 1, 2009 at 12:16 PM

The Obama administration has a duty to defend American sovereignty and to stop old colonial powers (heh) from imposing their laws on other nations.

The Obama administration doesn’t believe in American sovereignty.

You say it has a duty to defend it – is that a law, or in the oath or something?

Because my impression is they don’t have to if they don’t want to, and they certainly don’t intend to. So I assumed that was legal.

Alana on May 1, 2009 at 12:16 PM

Hey Spain. Phuck off.

D2Boston on May 1, 2009 at 12:16 PM

Let’s hope, despite his bowing & scraping to foreign powers, that even Obama isn’t insane enough to allow this travesty to go any further. He needs to have Bruno (TOTUS’s name for Janet N.) rough up Holder in the Rose Garden.

KS Rex on May 1, 2009 at 12:17 PM

It’s as good as done. And not a single lawmaker will raise a finger to stop them. In the end they’ll wiggle out of extradition, but there will be a judgement that will haunt this country for decades.

Griz on May 1, 2009 at 12:17 PM

And, by the way, why is Holder still AG? Anyone else who made that intensely anti-American speech about how we are all cowards (us white folks, at least) would have been run out of town on a rail. Why is this slug still in the cabinet?

Yes, I know the answer, but it still needs to be asked at every opportunity. Never let these despicable, lying scum float away from their own anti-American idiocies.

progressoverpeace on May 1, 2009 at 12:18 PM

Otis B on May 1, 2009 at 12:15 PM

You’ve got a bunch of Liberal Elitists and Socialists, who didn’t like what America stands for to begin with, in charge of our country. They don’t want to stand up for America. They identify with Spain and other European nations.

kingsjester on May 1, 2009 at 12:18 PM

Otis B on May 1, 2009 at 12:15 PM

Unforgivable.

Kid from Brooklyn on May 1, 2009 at 12:19 PM

I hope this blows up in faces big time. How far are we willing to let these loons go?

jewells45 on May 1, 2009 at 12:20 PM

The Obama administration doesn’t believe in American sovereignty.

Alana on May 1, 2009 at 12:16 PM

Yep! Remember, he’s a citizen of the world

youngO on May 1, 2009 at 12:20 PM

Is treason by the current administration on the table yet?

GrayDog on May 1, 2009 at 12:20 PM

“The Obama administration has a duty to defend American sovereignty and to stop old colonial powers (heh) from imposing their laws on other nations.”

And if he doesn’t………….

……….. is that grounds to remove him from office?

Seven Percent Solution on May 1, 2009 at 12:20 PM

It goes against everything for which this nations stands.

And so does the most anti-American president this country has ever had.

Loxodonta on May 1, 2009 at 12:20 PM

Enabling the Spanish Inquisition?

I, for one, didn’t expect the Spanish Inquisition.

amerpundit on May 1, 2009 at 12:20 PM

And, by the way, why is Holder still AG? Anyone else who made that intensely anti-American speech about how we are all cowards (us white folks, at least) would have been run out of town on a rail. Why is this slug still in the cabinet?

Yes, I know the answer, but it still needs to be asked at every opportunity. Never let these despicable, lying scum float away from their own anti-American idiocies.

progressoverpeace on May 1, 2009 at 12:18 PM

Well, he won’t be much longer; he’ll be on the Supreme Court.

rockmom on May 1, 2009 at 12:20 PM

Oy cargada…

“I’m sorry” – B.H. Obama

Wyznowski on May 1, 2009 at 12:20 PM

The whackjobs in Spain are always trying to indict everybody. They are certainly always going after the Israelis. Nevertheless, it is disgusting that Obama aided and abetted them in their lunacy. But, let them try it. Obama may not go to war with Spain but half this country will. I would love to kick some spanish butt.

Blake on May 1, 2009 at 12:22 PM

Yep! Remember, he’s a citizen of the world

youngO on May 1, 2009 at 12:20 PM

Nope. He fancies himself President of the World.

Correction, messiah of the world…

Daggett on May 1, 2009 at 12:22 PM

such machinations are an insult to American sovereignty

Which seems to be exactly what Obama wants, almost every word out of our president’s mouth is an insult to this country. I still can’t figure out who President (Joe Cool) Obama is trying to impress and score points with. I most certainly isn’t the American People. Is this what you voted for democrat?

Remember, if Obama can turn over a Bush Administration Official or even the man himself, there is nothing to stop him from turning over you and me.

Tommy_G on May 1, 2009 at 12:22 PM

Griz on May 1, 2009 at 12:17 PM

That’s exactly what I fear. That Obama and Holder, et al, will allow this to go on long enough (short of extradition) to embarrass officials from the Bush Administration, all in the name of showing how “un-arrogant” and “evolved” we’ve become since the magic negro took office.

Hell. To. Pay.

D2Boston on May 1, 2009 at 12:23 PM

Spain, you mean the same Spain that folded their already thin resolve like a tissue paper tent in the rain when the jihad hit them?

Unbelievable.

kirkill on May 1, 2009 at 12:24 PM

I, for one, didn’t expect the Spanish Inquisition.

amerpundit on May 1, 2009 at 12:20 PM

NOBODY expects the Spanish Inquisition! Our chief weapon is surprise…surprise and fear…fear and surprise…. Our two weapons are fear and surprise…and ruthless efficiency…. Our *three* weapons are fear, surprise, and ruthless efficiency…and an almost fanatical devotion to the Pope…. Our *four*…no… *Amongst* our weapons…. Amongst our weaponry…are such elements as fear, surprise…. I’ll come in again.

Daggett on May 1, 2009 at 12:26 PM

As far as I’m concerned, there’s a good case here for trying Holder for treason.

Socratease on May 1, 2009 at 12:26 PM

I’m actually stunned here. I mean, I read about this a month or so ago and thought “no way will they let this happen.”

This madness has got to stop.

Otis B on May 1, 2009 at 12:27 PM

This is an administration that is determined to conduct itself by the rule of law. –Holder

This is egregious and Orwellian. Rule of law exists to do away with arbitrary judgment. Holder is instead using his own discretion big time.

There are different views on the rule of law, but this violates all of them.

Chaz on May 1, 2009 at 12:27 PM

At least the subjects will be interrogated with the rack, the comfy chair and the soft pillows. You know Europeon approved interrogation techniques and all!!

deadbackpacker on May 1, 2009 at 12:29 PM

They would have to consider that the next administration would do the same to them so why do it at all? Maybe they don’t expect there ever to be another administration and that makes this a pretty scary prospect indeed.

jmarcure on May 1, 2009 at 12:29 PM

Enabling the Spanish Inquisition?

What did anyone expect from an idiot that was an integral part of Waco, Ruby Ridge, and the Elian Gonzales fiasco’s?

The main components of that foul ball legal team, that was there then, are here now. Next to Janet Reno, Eric Holder will be the sorriest AG this country has ever had!

byteshredder on May 1, 2009 at 12:30 PM

Does that mean if we are attacked by jihadists after obama and company put our country and citizens in danger, we can file charges against them and sue them for damages and pain and suffering. Let the games begin.

Oh, and Spain….EFF YOU!

HornetSting on May 1, 2009 at 12:31 PM

Bring it on, you leftist freaks.

capitalist piglet on May 1, 2009 at 12:32 PM

Wait until obama signs our country over to the UN and disbands our judicial system.

HornetSting on May 1, 2009 at 12:32 PM

If Eric Holder and Barack Obama accept this idea, they will actually have brought about what used to be a paranoid fantasy among the John Birch Society and other lunatics — “one-world government,” run according to European, not American rules.

Why are they lunatics if their predictions are possibly coming true? I mean, are you a lunatic for warning against it too?

Akzed on May 1, 2009 at 12:33 PM

Oh give the guy a break. After all, nobody expects the Spanish Inquisition.

TheUnrepentantGeek on May 1, 2009 at 12:33 PM

Again, as I wrote last month, such machinations are an insult to American sovereignty. The Obama administration has a duty to defend American sovereignty and to stop old colonial powers (heh) from imposing their laws on other nations. That’s the height of arrogance, and if Barack Obama doesn’t want to stand up to it, Congress should demand to know why Obama and Holder are cooperating with an attempt by Spain to impose their laws on American citizens. It goes against everything for which this nations stands.

The Obama administration is setting the precedent for future President’s to revisit actions taken by previous Presidents… If turning American Sovereignty over to the Spanish isn’t “high crimes and misdemeanors” today…

Obama and Holder won’t be in power forever–it is their rules that will put them in prison later.

petunia on May 1, 2009 at 12:34 PM

If that’s the case, then I see no reason why at the end of four years you couldn’t then drag the entire Obama administration into court for violating their oath to defend the constitution. This is basically going to be a never ending game, but pathetically Holder and Obama want another country to do the ‘dirty work’ so they can hold out their hands and talk about how it wasn’t them that did it, it was another country.

Defector01 on May 1, 2009 at 12:35 PM

petunia on May 1, 2009 at 12:34 PM

The actions and policies of Obooba et al appear to me to be predicated on the assumption that they will be in power forever. I don’t think they will be, but it seems that they think they will.

Akzed on May 1, 2009 at 12:36 PM

Obama is TRYING to start a civil war. Why? I don’t know but there has to be a reason why he is bowing before kings, surrendering our laws and traditions to foreign powers and outright contempt of the Constitution. How much more before he pushes this country to the point where he and his ilk MUST BE DEALT WITH? It’s getting scary.

Guardian on May 1, 2009 at 12:37 PM

On the bright side, Maybe some other country will charge Barney Frank and Chris Dodd with conspiracy to commit financial fraud and we’ll get to see the US cooperate on that also.

OBQuiet on May 1, 2009 at 12:40 PM

I say, Bring it on, paella breath!

Blake on May 1, 2009 at 12:41 PM

OBQuiet on May 1, 2009 at 12:40 PM

Lots of countries -did- lose a ton of money on all those bad loans that Frank/Dodd supported.

lorien1973 on May 1, 2009 at 12:41 PM

Growing up my Aunt’s and Uncles were solid John Bircher’s, I thought they were nuts…now, they were just ahead of their time.

right2bright on May 1, 2009 at 12:42 PM

It goes against everything for which this nations stands.

Not sure what that is anymore! I know what Americans stand for, but not sure what America, as in the current administration, stands for!

fumpbump on May 1, 2009 at 12:43 PM

petunia on May 1, 2009 at 12:34 PM
The actions and policies of Obooba et al appear to me to be predicated on the assumption that they will be in power forever. I don’t think they will be, but it seems that they think they will.

Akzed on May 1, 2009 at 12:36 PM

I’ve said as much myself. But I see some backlash in the polling. Obama will go and we will get someone with some kind of sense to undo all that he is doing.

Or the true Messiah will come. That would be better.

petunia on May 1, 2009 at 12:43 PM

Or the true Messiah will come.
petunia on May 1, 2009 at 12:43 PM

YOU MEAN OBAMA’S NOT HIM?! Lied to again!

fumpbump on May 1, 2009 at 12:45 PM

The Obama administration doesn’t believe in American sovereignty.

Alana on May 1, 2009 at 12:16 PM

Remember – there is nothing “special” about the US and we’ve made so many mistakes.

katiejane on May 1, 2009 at 12:45 PM

It’s time to publicly compile a list of high crimes and misdemeanors committed by the Obama administration.

Also, any pardon by Obama is to be ignored.

Their interrogation and their punishment can be outsourced to a backward and vicious sharia court.

The time for real fairness to Obama and his minions will come.

Right_of_Attila on May 1, 2009 at 12:45 PM

Eric Robespierre Holder in 2016!

Limerick on May 1, 2009 at 12:46 PM

Does this mean that Pakistan can indict President Obama for war crimes after he ordered attacks on Pakistani villages? Can Somalia indict him for killing the Somali pirates-err, “coast guard”?

scottm on May 1, 2009 at 12:48 PM

Obama is TRYING to start a civil war.

Guardian on May 1, 2009 at 12:37 PM

Well they did say he was Lincoln 2.0

amkun on May 1, 2009 at 12:48 PM

Barry and Eric,

YOUR cells will be ready for you in four years.

Star20 on May 1, 2009 at 12:50 PM

If the Feds try to take George outta Texas a whole bunch of folks are going to do more then have a tea party.

Limerick on May 1, 2009 at 12:51 PM

Boycott Spain and all Spanish products.

Americans account for 3% of their GDP and are #2 in total tourism receipts, behind the UK.

Odie1941 on May 1, 2009 at 12:51 PM

I say, Bring it on, paella breath!

Blake on May 1, 2009 at 12:41 PM

MMMMMM! You said Paella! See, the Spanish can do somethings well… Mostly in Catalonia, however.

petunia on May 1, 2009 at 12:52 PM

Would this qualify as an impeachable offense?

Obama didn’t take an oath to defend the “world’s” constitution, after all. Least of all Spain’s.

If he does it, the GOP needs to file articles of impeachment.

Good Lt on May 1, 2009 at 12:53 PM

“This is an administration that is determined to conduct itself by the rule of law

hayek would disagree

Chiasmos on May 1, 2009 at 12:53 PM

Boycott Spain and all Spanish products.

Americans account for 3% of their GDP and are #2 in total tourism receipts, behind the UK.

Odie1941 on May 1, 2009 at 12:51 PM

O’Reilly has said he is going to lead a boycott if this gets much worse… this is worse.

I love Spain. I actually was considering going there sometime this year… But hey there is still Portugal!

petunia on May 1, 2009 at 12:54 PM

Enabling the Spanish Inquisition?

I, for one, didn’t expect the Spanish Inquisition.

amerpundit on May 1, 2009 at 12:20 PM

Welp, it’s here. Give that man the comfy chair treatment.

forest on May 1, 2009 at 12:55 PM

Would not cooperating w/ Spain in such a matter constitute an impeachable action as it compromises the Constitution which is suppose to protect and defend its citizens?

If so, then I hope the Obama administration does, so we throw those utopian traitors, and rid ourselves of their ilk & influence once and for all!

epb on May 1, 2009 at 12:55 PM

hypothetical question: if bush was tried, who would his secret service detail legally be responsible to:following obama or protecting bush?

Chiasmos on May 1, 2009 at 12:56 PM

Let’s hope, despite his bowing & scraping to foreign powers, that even Obama isn’t insane enough to allow this travesty to go any further. He needs to have Bruno (TOTUS’s name for Janet N.) rough up Holder in the Rose Garden.

KS Rex on May 1, 2009 at 12:17 PM

Don’t count on it. Obama’s nominee for legal advisor at State is Harold Koh, and his hearings have been ongoing with nary a word about them in the MSM. Koh is a firm ‘internationalist’ who believes that US law must be molded to accommodate international law. In other words, he has the same hazy views of US sovereignty espoused by Holder in this statement and obvious in everything Obama does that isn’t solely domestic. If Koh is confirmed, as seems likely, even sending a request to State wouldn’t put a stop such efforts to infringe on US sovereignty.

For more on Kohn see especially Ed Whelan at NRO’s Bench Memos.

ProfessorMiao on May 1, 2009 at 12:56 PM

Obama is TRYING to start a civil war. Why?

Because all he ever really wanted was to exact revenge on those he views as having shamed and humiliated “his people” – non-whites and third-worlders, essentially. He hates the US and despises the West (which the Euros haven’t figured out, yet, though they should think about it every time they pick up one of the gag gifts they were given by The Precedent). It is going to be very ugly. Very, very ugly.

I don’t know but there has to be a reason why he is bowing before kings, surrendering our laws and traditions to foreign powers and outright contempt of the Constitution.

He hates us and everything we stand for. Period.

How much more before he pushes this country to the point where he and his ilk MUST BE DEALT WITH? It’s getting scary.

Guardian on May 1, 2009 at 12:37 PM

Indeed.

progressoverpeace on May 1, 2009 at 12:57 PM

petunia on May 1, 2009 at 12:54 PM

I have always heard of beautiful Barcelona is and the wife and I were looking to head there this summer, but Ireland will do just fine.

Sad part is – I am a huge fan of Sergio Leone’s Spaghetti Westerns, which were filmed in Spain – and always wanted to back pack there.

Not now.

Odie1941 on May 1, 2009 at 12:58 PM

Ummmmmmmmmm,the problem is,everything that the Left does
comes from the Left brain,so,anything that the Right does,
or has done,will be prosecuted,on any place on the planet!

Wait a tic,that doesn’t make sense,Obama would never send Republicans to Iran,or North Korea,

maybe to camps,in other countries,now that sounds like
crazy talk,I dunno!(Snark).

canopfor on May 1, 2009 at 1:01 PM

O/T-They are sending Biden on a plane to Kosovo.

Payback is a beeotch!

HornetSting on May 1, 2009 at 1:01 PM

If Obama accedes to the Spanish request, he should hereafter be referred to as Pontius Pilate. Holder can be referred to as Judas. That won’t bother him. It’s not the first time Holder has sold his soul for 30 pieces of silver. Ask Marc Rich.

GarandFan on May 1, 2009 at 1:06 PM

Hopey has been on his ‘Apology to the World Tour’ for
anything,and everything,that America might do,and has
or hasn’t done!

That mentality will carry over to sending Americans
abroad for so-called crimes!

Meanwhile,the White House is infested with criminals
who haven’t paid their taxes,and gawd only knows what
else!

canopfor on May 1, 2009 at 1:08 PM

Has somebody checked lately? Is Francisco Franco still dead?

mojo on May 1, 2009 at 1:10 PM

After reading these comments I can only conclude the United States is a nation of cowards.

“Spanish courts don’t have standing in this matter.” What a sane AG might say.

forest on May 1, 2009 at 12:16 PM

Standing is the right of a party to bring a case. Spanish courts lack jurisdiction over acts taken by American officials inside the United States. That is, unless you view foreign courts as a tool to score domestic political points, in which case you would “look at any request that would come from a court in any country.”

Ted Torgerson on May 1, 2009 at 1:11 PM

O/T-They are sending Biden on a plane to Kosovo.

HornetSting on May 1,2009 at 1:01PM.

HornetSting:

I hope,somebody remembers to turn the beacon on!ahem:)

canopfor on May 1, 2009 at 1:11 PM

There is no doubt in my mind that history will vindicate Bush. I never thought it would happen this quickly, but if these idiots insist . . .

calabrese on May 1, 2009 at 1:13 PM

“Spanish courts don’t have standing in this matter.” What a sane AG might say.

forest on May 1, 2009 at 12:16 PM

“Suck it Spain.” – what an American would say.

landshark on May 1, 2009 at 1:14 PM

Daggett on May 1, 2009 at 12:26 PM

O’bama and Holder are definitely Upper Class Twits of the Year in my book.

What’s next, the Ministry of Silly Walks?

Del Dolemonte on May 1, 2009 at 1:16 PM

BTW, the action of the Spanish Court to try any American officials for what they did as American officials would be an overt act of war against the US, in case anyone was wondering. There are, to be honest, few acts of war more overt and transparent than this. I would react with a quick warning, and then great violence.

progressoverpeace on May 1, 2009 at 1:17 PM

There is no doubt in my mind that history will vindicate Bush. I never thought it would happen this quickly, but if these idiots insist . . .

calabrese on May 1, 2009 at 1:13 PM

No, that will nothappen in our lifetimes, until a yet-unborn generation of historians comes along. Today’s “historians” are 99.9% BDS-afflicted. And will remain that way as long as they live.

Del Dolemonte on May 1, 2009 at 1:17 PM

…..referred to as Pontius Pilate.

GarandFan on May 1,2009 at 1:06PM.

GarandFan:Great,more acronyms!

That would make Obama, PPPOTUS!hehe:)

canopfor on May 1, 2009 at 1:17 PM

A pranoid would think Bama was sent and being controlled by people bent on damaging this country as rapidly and deeply as possible, that all of this crap over the first 102 days is part of an itegrated plan.

On the other hand, if that was the goal, and it had to proceed with some caution to be effective, would you do too many things differently?

I don’t think I would. Maybe hit some different areas before I did the automakers, let say, but there has been lots of “change” and not much of it will be positive for the country or easy to repair.

You can’t raise the water temp too fast or the frog will pop out of the skillet. Bama is on the move, headed the “right” way, but go too fast and the pushback could get difficult to deal with.

Tea Parties are “unhealthy”, for Bama’s agenda.

Harry Schell on May 1, 2009 at 1:22 PM

Grounds for impeachment!

This clearly goes against a litany of constitutional rights and responsibilities.

Chaz706 on May 1, 2009 at 1:25 PM

Both Obama, and Holder to their oaths, to portect, and defend the Constitution, this country, and it’s citizens.

If they cannot abide by that, then perhapse they all need to step down.

I vote to impeach immediately, if they go any further with this.

capejasmine on May 1, 2009 at 1:26 PM

“This is an administration that is determined to conduct itself by the rule of law and to the extent that we receive lawful requests from an appropriately created court, we would obviously respond to it,” he said.

What’s next? Turning over Americans to Saudi Arabia for trial for “Crimes against Islam” by Saudi Arabia’s “Rule of law”?

If ever there was an American President and administration that the Founding Fathers would throw up over, it is this one.

MB4 on May 1, 2009 at 1:29 PM

I have laughed for years at the “one world government” paranoiacs and regarded them as loons.

Obama’s radical admininstration, in 100 short days, has provided them with credibility and even vindication. This schmuck, his attorney general, and the liberal members of our Supreme Court are One World Government devotees who view American sovereignty as subordinate to “International Law” and our citizens as subject to subpoenas from foreign kangaroo courts.

There really isn’t any question anymore.

Jaibones on May 1, 2009 at 1:31 PM

I vote to impeach immediately, if they go any further with this.

capejasmine on May 1, 2009 at 1:26 PM

We are getting closer and closer to the point when military officers will have to decide which is more important to them, their oath to protect the U.S. Constitution against all enemies, foreign and domestic, or their pay checks.

MB4 on May 1, 2009 at 1:32 PM

Well, I can see why they are eager to accept Spain’s intervention. It removes this administrations ovet involvement while allowing them to show tacit approval to their base.

they can simply say “we don’t have to prosocute them because Spain is.” and THAT should appease the left nutters.

todler on May 1, 2009 at 1:33 PM

Governance by “Imagine”.

Count to 10 on May 1, 2009 at 1:37 PM

“This is an administration that is determined to conduct itself by the rule of law and to the extent that we receive lawful requests from an appropriately created court, we would obviously respond to it,” he said.

Unless it’s contract law and involves the mortgage between a lender and borrower, and violating it would benefit the borrower.

Unless it’s the securities law concerning the fiduciary responsibilties of secured creditors for companies like Chrysler and GM, and apparently also Bank of America.

ProfessorMiao on May 1, 2009 at 1:37 PM

We are getting closer and closer to the point when military officers will have to decide which is more important to them, their oath to protect the U.S. Constitution against all enemies, foreign and domestic, or their pay checks.

MB4 on May 1, 2009 at 1:32 PM

Only their pay checks?

Count to 10 on May 1, 2009 at 1:38 PM

I, for one, didn’t expect the Spanish Inquisition.

amerpundit on May 1, 2009 at 12:20 PM

But I’d prefer a new edition of the Spanish inquisition
Than to ever let Obama in my life.

(Or in my country.)

bulgaroctonus on May 1, 2009 at 1:42 PM

Where are the Republicans in Congress on this and the nomination of Koh? They should bring it up in every committee hearing, every speech on the floor, on the Capitol steps and in front of the Supreme Court (at least as long as Obama doesn’t stack with internationalist judges). What will it TAKE for them to grow a spine?

in_awe on May 1, 2009 at 1:43 PM

“Obviously, we would look at any request that would come from a court in any country and see how and whether we should comply with it,” Holder said.

So if a kangaroo court in Tehran wanted to try Jimmy Carter for war crimes in his botched rescue attempt of American hostages in 1979, Obama would comply?

Or if a court in China wanted to try Bill Clinton for mistakenly bombing the Chinese embassy in Belgrade, Obama would comply?

The entire Spanish lawsuit is a farce anyway. The American invasion of Iraq was not an offense against Spain, since the Spanish government at the time WILLINGLY sent Spanish troops into Iraq as part of the anti-Saddam coalition.

The should be no trial of Jorge Arbusto.

Steve Z on May 1, 2009 at 1:55 PM

Obama is TRYING to start a civil war. Why?

Because then you get to declare martial law. Throw your adversaries into prison, or sequester them in camps. Call off elections for the foreseeable future. Things like that.

Alana on May 1, 2009 at 1:57 PM

O/T-They are sending Biden on a plane to Kosovo.

Payback is a beeotch!

HornetSting on May 1, 2009 at 1:01 PM

Hillary: Mr. Vice President, do be careful and avoid sniper fire from Tuzla.

Steve Z on May 1, 2009 at 1:58 PM

I do like Spain’s King, Juan Carlos. He at least had the cojones to tell that douchebag Chavez to shut his taco-hole.

Why don’t we send them Obama, and they can send us Juan Carlos, and we’ll call it even. As long as we seem to be jettisoning democracy anyway, we might as well go back to monarchy, and get a head of state with some class and dignity.

bulgaroctonus on May 1, 2009 at 2:04 PM

Community Organizer goes global.

It is going to take years to roll this excrement back. IF we even can. Bolton’s words about how hard it is to break a treaty with the U.N. keeps ringing in my ears each time I read anything connection to this universal law business.

You can see them thinking that if Congress or our Courts do not go along with the radicalization of Fascism; then they are going to install Fascism through any and all back channels.

It is beyond sad and disturbing all our claims against the Democrat Party is going to be proven true at the expense of each and every American. We have long claimed those in the DNC power and political circles are not patriotic, and loathe this country. Regular Joe and Jane Democrat have not a clue, and are quite the opposite from those who claim to represent them. It is time for the regular Joes and Janes in the DNC to have a serious gut check, and drop the jugs of Kool-Aid. If they do not, we are in for more than just a bumpy ride.

I fully expect the next round of un-American laws to be instituted will involve more sharia law infiltrating our legal system.

freeus on May 1, 2009 at 2:04 PM

It is going to take years to roll this excrement back. IF we even can. Bolton’s words about how hard it is to break a treaty with the U.N. keeps ringing in my ears each time I read anything connection to this universal law business.

freeus on May 1, 2009 at 2:04 PM

1. Withdraw the US from the UN;
2. Kick that whore organization out of our country, knock down the building and sow the earth with salt.

Not hard at all.

bulgaroctonus on May 1, 2009 at 2:08 PM

I, for one, didn’t expect the Spanish Inquisition.

amerpundit on May 1, 2009 at 12:20 PM

Me neither. I’m sure, for instance, their torture techniques will be much different than before.

Badger40 on May 1, 2009 at 2:13 PM

Not hard at all.

bulgaroctonus on May 1, 2009 at 2:08 PM

You underestimate the number off ba!!-less beta/omega males in charge.
Then it does become quite hard-er, uh-difficult.

Badger40 on May 1, 2009 at 2:14 PM

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