ABC outs psychologists who developed CIA waterboarding program; Update: Not outed?

posted at 9:49 pm on April 30, 2009 by Allahpundit

This one’s a closer call than when the Times outed KSM’s chief interrogator against Michael Hayden’s wishes. That was really a story about America’s counterterror apparatus after 9/11; the interrogator was a minor character, which made the outing gratuitous. ABC’s piece is about how these two guys masterminded the CIA’s program — while allegedly not really knowing what they were doing. Can you break a story like that, affecting national policy on a subject of public interest, without saying specifically who you’re talking about?

Both Mitchell and Jessen were previously involved in the U.S. military program to train pilots how to survive behind enemy lines and resist brutal tactics if captured.

But it turns out neither Mitchell nor Jessen had any experience in conducting actual interrogations before the CIA hired them.

“They went to two individuals who had no interrogation experience,” said Col. Kleinman. “They are not interrogators.”

The new documents show the CIA later came to learn that the two psychologists’ waterboarding “expertise” was probably “misrepresented” and thus, there was no reason to believe it was “medically safe” or effective. The waterboarding used on al Qaeda detainees was far more intense than the brief sessions used on U.S. military personnel in the training classes.

“The use of these tactics tends to increase resistance on the part of the detainee to cooperating with us. So they have the exact opposite effect of what you want,” said Sen. Carl Levin (D-Mich).

The new memos also show waterboarding was used “with far greater frequency than initially indicated” to even those in the CIA.

Follow the link and you’ll find a whiff of a revenge motive here by ABC: They got burned two years ago when an agent wrongly told them Zubaydah had been waterboarded only once and now it smells like they’re trying to atone by throwing Mitchell and Jessen to the wolves. Exit question: Is it fair to torch their anonymity given the hint of malfeasance in their waterboarding expertise having been “misrepresented?”

Update: Goldfarb’s outraged:

In other words, Cole is a left-wing partisan with questionable reporting chops. This is obvious from the quality of the story tonight. Cole repeats the now throughly debunked claim that Zubaydah and KSM were waterboarded 83 and 183 times respectively. He posts video of the two refusing to answer questions in what is staged as a faux perp walk with no discernible news value other than to portray them as criminals. And, most amazingly, Cole indicts the two men for not having any experience prior to their work for the CIA — as though being “previously involved in the U.S. military program to train pilots how to survive behind enemy lines and resist brutal tactics” isn’t relevant.

His exit question: Who leaked their identities, and does The One care?

Update: Larry Johnson e-mails to say that Mitchell and Jessen were already named by Jane Mayer in her book The Dark Side. So much for ABC’s blockbuster.


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hillbillyjim on April 30, 2009 at 11:08 PM

Why stop what is working? Especially with a compliant media helping you?

Sue on April 30, 2009 at 11:12 PM

The Press have become part of the enemy to the people of the United States.

smartsy on April 30, 2009 at 11:10 PM

Bingo! The greatest enemy is from within and yet we sit and do nothing about it.

davenp35 on April 30, 2009 at 11:12 PM

Why are liberals so opposed to defending America?

davenp35 on April 30, 2009 at 11:04 PM

It makes them feel morally superior to do so and they underestimate the nature of the threat.

But, I stopped caring why they do things and came to the realization that no matter what they do, if I think about it long enough (sometimes it doesn’t take very long, other times it takes a little while to work out the underlying logic they are peddling), I come up with a reason why it’s stupid to do that thing. After years of having this happen, I now just make the assumption that if there is something they are proposing, at its core is a stupid idea or hypothesis.

venividivici on April 30, 2009 at 11:14 PM

ABCs out is these contractors were not covert agents, so there would be no violation of Federal law. That said, they are complete morons for placing these men and their family’s lives in danger. This must end, and prosecutions must be made.

Nuts4koi on April 30, 2009 at 11:15 PM

Former U.S. officials say the two men were essentially the architects of the CIA’s 10-step interrogation plan that culminated in waterboarding.

Well, all we need to do is find out who these so-called former officials are, then we know who outed the two men. The article does rely almost entirely on Kleinman’s testimony, who was totally against any kind of advanced interrogation and made a name for himself by appearing before Congress. Not saying he’s the source or anything.

And are they saying these guys were actually present at the interrogations?

who were apparently directing the brutal sessions

The whole article is shot full of holes and is hardly a scoop since the WaPo already covered this. I agree this is revenge and by the way, a promo for

Matthew Cole is a freelance national security reporter. His book, about the CIA rendition program, will be published later this year by Simon & Schuster.

Deanna on April 30, 2009 at 11:16 PM

Bingo! The greatest enemy is from within and yet we sit and do nothing about it.

davenp35 on April 30, 2009 at 11:12 PM

In politics, timing matters. In my opinion, the time to complete breakdown of the system just isn’t here, yet, but it will be huge when it happens.

A lot of why it hasn’t happened yet is because our lifestyle has been being subsidized by cheap borrowing from abroad. Once this source of funds is cut off, we’ll be at each others throats, and not just metaphorically, just like all countries that have experienced this scenario before us. America’s exceptional, but it isn’t exempt from human nature.

venividivici on April 30, 2009 at 11:18 PM

Look at the bio for Matthew Cole for this report…writes for ESPN…next Olby?

d1carter on April 30, 2009 at 11:22 PM

In the mean time:

The new and improved $400 Obamamassiah tax credits will have to be paid back according to a report on Geitner’s T-Dept. that also has disappeared from Drudge.

hmmm, All this fallderall for hiding another lie???
Could it be?

OkieDoc on April 30, 2009 at 11:28 PM

Are they agents under cover and is it a more serious violation to release their identities than the Plame Wilson affair?

eaglewingz08 on April 30, 2009 at 11:30 PM

Once again, if you read the link that artist left upthread, you’ll find these men had already been outed by a local paper (sans pictures). The linked article to that local paper gave their credentials, which in my book, made them well qualified. ABC didn’t bother to report what their speciality is, even though the headline called them specialists. They were hauled before Carl Levin and John McCain to testify, with John McCain participating most willingly. I doubt what ABC did was illegal, since their names were already out there, but it sure as hell is unethical. They needlessly put these two men and their families in danger.

Sue on April 30, 2009 at 11:39 PM

The CIA eats their own for partisan advantage.

There’s a K Street sinecure for the loyal.

Greg Toombs on April 30, 2009 at 11:46 PM

there’s no proof yet that torture led to any information they couldn’t have obtained without committing war crimes.

the CIA hired people with no interrogation experience because expert interrogators don’t torture.

sesquipedalian on April 30, 2009 at 10:44 PM

Oh God you have got to be joking with this throughly debunked claim by liberals that there is no proof that these
techniques gained information that stopped attacks:

Besides CIA leaders Hayden,Goss,and Tenet stating that they have, President Obama himself stated this:


Obama gives nuanced defense of his stance on torture

http://www.latimes.com/news/nationworld/nation/la-na-obama-assess30-2009apr30,0,752097.story

He says harsh interrogation methods may have yielded useful information but that they should still be ruled out. His stance suggests complications in ending Bush-era counter-terrorism tactics.

In a strikingly defensive explanation of his stance on Bush-era anti-terrorism tactics, President Obama on Wednesday acknowledged for the first time that the harsh interrogation techniques he has banned might have yielded useful information, but that he was nonetheless willing to rule them out on moral grounds.

It was a nuanced performance as Obama walked viewers of his prime-time news conference through a policy that has led him to declare tactics such as waterboarding torture but to stop short of advocating prosecution of the architects of the practices.

Now what do you think this “useful information” was for.
Al-qaeda does not do bake sales nor or they involved in organizing food drives.
The useful information is concerning attacks and the people that carried them out.
Anybody with common sense can see this.
The leaders of our intel services have stated this.
The fact that we have had so much success in stopping this proves this.

Here is more proof and a solid breakdown of how enhanced interrogation stopped attacks.
These are facts so they will probably get in the way of your liberal talking points.


The West Coast Plot: An “Inconvenient Truth”

[Marc Thiessen]
http://corner.nationalreview.com/post/?q=ZDE5YTNmZTg5OWUyOTlkMGUxOTk3OGMxY2I4ZDQ4YWQ=

Critics of the CIA program are desperate to convince Americans that no valuable information came from the interrogations of Khalid Sheikh Mohammed (KSM) and other senior terrorists. They know that if our citizens learn the details of how enhanced interrogations stopped terrorist plots, most would support the CIA program. A recent Pew poll showed that 71% of Americans believe that there are circumstances under which torture (not just enhanced interrogations, but actual torture) is justifiable to get information from captured terrorists.

In my Washington Post piece, I was citing the very documents which President Obama released, which quote the CIA saying that interrogation with enhanced techniques “led to the discovery of a KSM plot, the ‘Second Wave,’ to ‘use East Asian operatives to crash a hijacked airliner into’ a building in Los Angeles.” The memo released by Obama goes on the explain that “information obtained from KSM also led to the capture of Riduan bin Isomuddin, better known as Hambali, and the discovery of the Guraba Cell, a 17-member Jemmah Islamiyah cell tasked with executing the ‘Second Wave.’ ”

Again, those are not my words. That is the position of our intelligence community.

But a lot of this would be cleared up if Obama would release the memos that prove this. The intel community and Administrative people during this time know the other memos show this and much more proof of their success.

Obama has already been caught deleting this information from Blairs memo that he released,what else is he trying to hide.
But liberals like yourself don’t care to much about “getting to the truth”, “transparency”and “full disclosure” when it doesn’t fit your talking points.
How progressive!!!

Plus:The memo’s that Obama has released plainly show that other methods had failed,that is why they moved to the enhanced interrogation.

The ABC story also indicates that these intelligence officials had tremendous experience in dealing with enemy capture and SERE training.
Any intelligent person can see how that might relate to dealing with a “captured” terrorist and what it will take to break them.

Baxter Greene on April 30, 2009 at 11:51 PM

In a strikingly defensive explanation of his stance on Bush-era anti-terrorism tactics, President Obama on Wednesday acknowledged for the first time that the harsh interrogation techniques he has banned might have yielded useful information, but that he was nonetheless willing to rule them out on moral grounds.

In short: Better that numbers of us die than to waterboard a terrorist.

That’s just great to know. (And I guess the terrorists are pleased to know it, too.)

Alana on May 1, 2009 at 12:12 AM

Sometimes I just get the feeling that American journalists are traitors. I don’t know why I would think that, but I just do.

Dhuka on May 1, 2009 at 12:15 AM

does The One care

Of course he cares! This is precisely why this and other information is being leaked. This is obviously orchestrated.

moxie_neanderthal on May 1, 2009 at 12:28 AM

Why was it wrong to “out” Valerie Plame, but not wrong to out these two?

davenp35 on April 30, 2009 at 10:49 PM

Well, see, she had a desk job, and that’s really important stuff. These guys, not so much.

/canyoufeelthesarcasm?

capitalist piglet on May 1, 2009 at 12:55 AM

Psst. Hey, ABC! Over here! Listen, in case you’ve forgotten, George Bush isn’t President anymore. The Messiah is. You’re not supposed to undermine US Security anymore to embarrass the President. I know it’s the hip thing to continue bashing Bush, but there are other avenues to do so.

hadsil on May 1, 2009 at 12:59 AM

The ACORN bus tour of Michell and Jensen’s homes starts in the AM followed by a walking tour of their children’s school. Photo opportunities abound. Claim your seat to see history in the making by booking your ACORN Liberty Tour today!

Special large party discounts are available.

moxie_neanderthal on May 1, 2009 at 1:02 AM

These reporters are seditionists. Where’s John Adams when we need him?

Fed45 on May 1, 2009 at 1:31 AM

Now that Rosa Brooks is at the Pentagon, she’ll get to the bottom of some of these leaks and put an end to them.

~sarc/

moxie_neanderthal on May 1, 2009 at 1:41 AM

We have met the enema and it’s the press.

Dhuka on May 1, 2009 at 1:49 AM

Exit question: Is it fair to torch their anonymity given the hint of malfeasance in their waterboarding expertise having been “misrepresented?”

You wrote as if you trust ABC and CIA not to misrepresent Mitchell and Jessen’s representations as misrepresentative.

Kralizec on May 1, 2009 at 1:51 AM

Exit question: Is it fair to torch their anonymity given the hint of malfeasance in their waterboarding expertise having been “misrepresented?”

No. It’s a despicable outrage.

Loxodonta on May 1, 2009 at 2:15 AM

I don’t see evidence of misrepresentation. These guys appear to have both the academic and experiential background for developing a successful program. Nonetheless, these guys will be destroyed.

[classification redaction] In December 2001 or January 2002, a retired Air Force SERE psychologist, Dr. James Mitchell, [redaction ] asked his former colleague, the senior SERE psychologist at JPRA, Dr. John “Bruce” Jessen, to review documents describing al Qaeda resistance training. The two psychologists reviewed the materials, [half line redacted], and generated a paper on al Qaeda resistance capabilities and countermeasures to defeat that resistance.

[classification redacted] The “Al Qaeda Resistance Contingency Training” presentation described methods used by al Qaeda to resist interrogation and exploitation and [half line redacted]. The presentation also described countermeasures to defeat al Qaeda resistance, including [~five lines redacted]. Mr. Witsch testified to the Committee that the countermeasures identified in the slides were “just an interpretation of what we were doing at the time and what we constantly did when we trained SERE students.”

For your reading pleasure:

INQUIRY INTO THE TREATMENT
OF DETAINEES IN U.S. CUSTODY
REPORT
OF THE
COMMITTEE ON ARMED SERVICES
UNITED STATES SENATE

moxie_neanderthal on May 1, 2009 at 2:23 AM

moxie_neanderthal on May 1, 2009 at 2:23 AM

Which is why the entire garbage from NPR, and all of the Left, spearheaded by their new wunderkindt, Air Force Colonel Steven Kleinman, former AFOSI (criminal investigations), claims that the Bush Administration hired “two individuals who had no interrogation experience,” said Col. Kleinman. “They are not interrogators.” which has been rapidly making the rounds over the past weeks.

Kleinman is the new Malcolm Nance…remember that Navy “expert” who made a good bit of money by going around the country last year, selling books and hitting every media outlet he could find (maybe two years ago, it’s late) telling people that the CIA poured “quarts of water” into the lungs of the detainees, and everybody on the Left, and a host of other Americans with absolutely no experience nor actual knowledge of the field bought into it, to include members of Congress.

What few have noticed, nor apparently understand, is that both contractors were previously involved in the U.S. military program to train…[to} resist brutal tactics if captured.”

My take is that this was an excellent choice...having people who understood the subject matter, and had an eye toward thwarting AQ's manual on resistance seems a smart move.

Once again...to gain Nielson ratings points...the MSM [ABC] once again pushes falsehoods with no regard for the facts and apparently no regard for the safety of American citizens, these two contractors and all the rest of us.

coldwarrior on May 1, 2009 at 2:39 AM

The two psychologists (Jensen and Mitchell) reviewed the materials,and generated a paper on al Qaeda resistance capabilities and countermeasures to defeat that resistance.

On February 12,2002, Dr. Jessen sent the paper to JPRA Commander Colonel John “Randy” Moulton, who in tum, emailed the paper to his chain of command at JFCOM with a recommendation that it be forwarded to the Joint Stafffor dissemination. 36 In his email, Col Moulton wrote:

While JPRA is not in the business of strategic debriefmg (interrogation), we do apply the most sophisticated techniques available in order to better prepare our [personnel] for resistance. After over 30 years of training we have become quite proficient with both specialized resistance and the ways to defeat it. 37

Not to overly restate the obvious, the issues that come to the fore within the Senate Report is the ongoing debate within the government and military as it pertains to the classification of unlawful enemy combatants vs POW status and the extent to which SERE training techniques should be applied and within what context.

This is an ongoing debate throughout the report and underscores the conflicted nature of the requirements of those tasked with disgorging information from terrorists and the uncertainty of the status of those detained.

Mistakes may have been made but they are mild within the broader context and complexity of issues facing our nation in the aftermath of 9/11.

One obvious result will be the desire of everyone up and down the food chain to err on the side of caution. Besides shifting to a defensive posture from an offensive footing it is clear that we are re-entering the Clinton era of constraining our capacity to act by seeing the world through the prism of narrowly defined and an overly legalistic framework.

Next step, resurrecting the ghost of the Chuch Committee.

moxie_neanderthal on May 1, 2009 at 3:09 AM

My take is that this was an excellent choice…having people who understood the subject matter, and had an eye toward thwarting AQ’s manual on resistance seems a smart move.

Absolutely. One could argue that Jensen and Mitchell were uniquely qualified for this task.

Kleinman and this navel gazing exercise is the mechanism by which we begin to shift from a military response back to the law enforcement approach to thwarting terrorism. After all, it worked so well during the Clinton administration.

moxie_neanderthal on May 1, 2009 at 3:22 AM

His exit question: Who leaked their identities, and does The One care?

I betcha GM stock that David Axelrod is the leaker, just as he was the leaker when Barry was running for the Senate and needed to knock Jack Ryan out of the way. (See the riveting chapter 5 of Ann Coulter’s “Guilty”.)

The One is delighted, as it gives the Leftist media something more to ‘moralize’ about, extends the Bush/Cheney are evil meme, and distracts from the fact that Obama is emulating Juan Peron and Benito Mussolini.

Buy Danish on May 1, 2009 at 7:17 AM

will somebody post cole’s address and phone number… maybe he should feel what it’s like to be outed? Just sayin’…

BadBrad on May 1, 2009 at 7:30 AM

“Outed”? Why on earth would you refer to them as “Outed”? I thought that waterboarding was a Good Thing. That it Kept Us Safe. Why, they should be proud! Why should they be afraid of revealing their identities? They did a good thing! Right?

Exit question (to steal a phrase): How does one reconcile support of waterboarding with a self-proclaimed Christianity? Was Jesus flogged in the temple, or just subjected to harsh interrogation techniques? Was crucifixion the ultimate “stress position”?

Mal Carne on May 1, 2009 at 7:30 AM

and does anyone else see the agenda here (besides revenge). this is an attempt to simply put a stake in the heart of the conservative argument that a. waterboard works (it was designed by guys who were not only incompetent… but they lied about knowing what they were doing… so Nancy and Harry were duped by the evil CIA) and that b. it sucks, but it’s safe and used on our own soldiers (oh no It’s Waaaaaaaaaaaay worse than what we do in training!!). This attacks the right and gives the lefties who supported it cover. Once again, MSM in the tank… smiley faces anyone?

BadBrad on May 1, 2009 at 7:38 AM

The One does NOT care. The One’s people are behind this. Everything revolving around this story is being ‘arranged’ covertly. The decimation and demoralizing of the CIA is what’s happening in this country today.

Griz on May 1, 2009 at 7:59 AM

Fabulous. Lets persecute every single person involved EXCEPT THE TERRORISTS WHO DESERVE IT.!!! That’ll help this country. Does the 0ne realize that all this stuff he’s doing to the previous administration could be applied to himself and his administration when they’re out of office?

4shoes on May 1, 2009 at 8:03 AM

smiley faces anyone?

BadBrad on May 1, 2009 at 7:38 AM

Smiley faces my a$$, how about torches and pitchforks outside the ABC corporate headquarters…

doriangrey on May 1, 2009 at 8:04 AM

Is it fair to torch their anonymity given the hint of malfeasance in their waterboarding expertise having been “misrepresented?”

If this information was classified, then no and they need to be prosecuted, but that won’t happen with this new administration.

One of my main problems with President Bush was his complete failure to go after and prosecute not only those leaking classified information, but also media organizations that knowingly published this classified information against the law.

JeffinSac on May 1, 2009 at 8:08 AM

“developed the waterboarding program”, my behind. We’ve been waterboarding our own for 35 years

Bevan on May 1, 2009 at 8:11 AM

TREASON!!!

vapig on May 1, 2009 at 8:14 AM

Valerie Plame, anyone?

Don’t think this isn’t a coordinated vendetta.

bluelightbrigade on May 1, 2009 at 8:27 AM

not really knowing what they were doing

Sounds like an administration I know…

garry on May 1, 2009 at 8:37 AM

“The use of these tactics tends to increase resistance on the part of the detainee to cooperating with us. So they have the exact opposite effect of what you want,” said Sen. Carl Levin (D-Mich).

Hmm, it persuaded KSM to give up the goods.

Alden Pyle on May 1, 2009 at 8:40 AM

When the Republicans get back power and have the opportunity, we should prosecute for treason the media employees who are releasing this information. We will have the opportunity if we can show the public a clear victim due to the media’s revelation of secrets. I hope we don’t have the opportunity, but it’s a rather unlikely hope.

thuja on May 1, 2009 at 8:43 AM

Sigh…Remember the “bad ole days” when treason used to get a person hung, or better yet strapped into ole sparky for a ride on the lightning. Man I sure do miss the “Bad ole Days”…

doriangrey on May 1, 2009 at 8:48 AM

It is obvious that ABC failed to do even the most basic research on the story and probably did little more than take dictation. If the reporter had simply read the unclassified Senate report (linked to above) they would have been clear on both the qualifications of Jensen and Mitchell and their role in developing the methodologies used. It is clear to my mind that both Jensen and Mitchell were in fact uniquely qualified to develop the program and that seems to be substantiatiated by internal communications between JPRA (SERE) and JFCOM (joint forces command).

Furthermore, within the body of the report Jensen, Mitchell and JPRA’s Colonel John “Randy” Moulton, make note of the specific limitations of their skill sets relative to the needs of the govt to disgorge information from the bad guys.

The fact that Jensen and Mitchell are named in the unclassified report also makes it clear that Jensen and Mitchell were not outed by ABC but rather by the senatorial staffers who drafted the report.

Jensen and Mitchell are unfortunately just more names added to the list who will pay for the sins of the Bush administration while it was trying to get its arms around a massive asymetrical war that was dumped on its doorstep by the previous administration.

moxie_neanderthal on May 1, 2009 at 9:31 AM

Exit question (to steal a phrase): How does one reconcile support of waterboarding with a self-proclaimed Christianity? Was Jesus flogged in the temple, or just subjected to harsh interrogation techniques? Was crucifixion the ultimate “stress position”?

What in the world does religion have to do with this? Nevertheless, I suggest you study Christianity a bit more deeply before pretending to be able to use Jesus’ crucifixion as an analogy. None of your points even come close to being relevant or logical

Fed45 on May 1, 2009 at 9:48 AM

With all the fake flap about exposing Plame, why isn’t the bambi admin launching an investigation over who leaked these names? And why no outrage over releasing their locations? Is it really going to take a death to stop these assassines?

vapig on May 1, 2009 at 10:03 AM

Liberals love to act so morally superior. Where do morals come from? True morals are derived from faith. It is the ultimate oxymoron that these boobs try to act so haughty & holier-than-thou, yet they lack the fundamental capacity to grasp true moralistic beliefs. It is NOT MORAL to allow fellow citizens to die to spare the mental or physical “feelings” of a few terrorists. It is so logical it is a concept a 5-year old can understand. God never intended for you (us) to made fools of & stand idly by while evil is present.

CONSERVATIVE: “God helps those that help themselves” (we understand this as an instruction to work hard and provide for your own through diligence)

LIBERAL: same passage as above – they believe this means HELP YOURSELF to whatever you want, whenever you want, no matter how vile or silly, with no thought to eventual consequences of if their actions cause harm to others

Ris4victory on May 1, 2009 at 10:24 AM

Outed? I read about Mitchell and Jessen a week or two ago. Dont recall where. But their names were already out there.

orange on May 1, 2009 at 10:53 AM

ALL THE NEWS THE ENEMY NEEDS

Motto of the Obama Era.

Fifth Columnists, all.

Hope they like that REAL bright light in their office window.

profitsbeard on May 1, 2009 at 10:57 AM

I imagine a mass exodus from the CIA in 3, 2, 1…..

txag92 on April 30, 2009 at 10:06 PM

And when the next attack on American soil happens the Left will be crying Why didn’t our Intelligence community protect us?

katiejane on May 1, 2009 at 11:18 AM

orange on May 1, 2009 at 10:53 AM

The names were out there…but the faces and locations?

coldwarrior on May 1, 2009 at 11:19 AM

the CIA hired people with no interrogation experience because expert interrogators don’t torture.

sesquipedalian on April 30, 2009 at 10:44 PM

Apparently those “expert interrogators” methods were unsuccessful in obtaining information – otherwise “enhanced interrogation” techniques wouldn’t have been required.

katiejane on May 1, 2009 at 11:32 AM

Republican view on waterboarding is to obtain information.

The democrats want it to be expressed as getting revenge. The democrat investigation of waterboarding is merely revenge driven. They are ambivalent on the act. remember they are pro abortion.
Abortion is nastier and creates more pain than waterboarding can. It is also very bloody.

seven on May 1, 2009 at 11:37 AM

I wonder what Valerie Plame thinks of this

ToddonCapeCod on May 1, 2009 at 1:07 PM

ABC = Treasonist traitors!

TrickyDick on May 1, 2009 at 1:50 PM

I wonder what Valerie Plame thinks of this

ToddonCapeCod on May 1, 2009 at 1:07 PM

Frankly, who cares what vacuous Val thinks of this.

coldwarrior on May 1, 2009 at 1:58 PM

ABC = Treasonist traitors!

TrickyDick on May 1, 2009 at 1:50 PM

I don’t like the fact that ABC ran the report but it is the Senate report in which Mitchell and Jensen’s names appear. ABC’s fault is the way in which the information was spun, particularly in light of the fact that the information is readily available through the Senate report.

moxie_neanderthal on May 1, 2009 at 6:07 PM

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