Snowe fails her own GOP litmus test

posted at 2:12 pm on April 29, 2009 by Ed Morrissey

Olympia Snowe wasted no time getting a column into the New York Times blaming Arlen Specter’s move across the aisle on intolerance of dissent within the GOP.   She compares the life of a moderate Republican in Congress to being a Survivor contestant, and laments that the party often wants to make politicians accountable for their votes in Congress (via Veronique de Rugy at The Corner):

It is true that being a Republican moderate sometimes feels like being a cast member of “Survivor” — you are presented with multiple challenges, and you often get the distinct feeling that you’re no longer welcome in the tribe.

Yes, it’s absolute hell being accountable for one’s decisions.  I would actually sympathize with Snowe’s statement here about litmus tests if Snowe hadn’t already failed it:

It is for this reason that we should heed the words of President Ronald Reagan, who urged, “We should emphasize the things that unite us and make these the only ‘litmus test’ of what constitutes a Republican: our belief in restraining government spending, pro-growth policies, tax reduction, sound national defense, and maximum individual liberty.” He continued, “As to the other issues that draw on the deep springs of morality and emotion, let us decide that we can disagree among ourselves as Republicans and tolerate the disagreement.”

Let’s have a show of hands from those who believe that Ronald Reagan would have voted for Porkulus, or issued a statement in support of massive government spending on make-work projects.  Anyone?  Anyone?  Bueller?  Bueller?

Now how many believe that Ronald Reagan would not just have vetoed Porkulus had it reached his desk, but would have scheduled a prime-time national address to let everyone see him do it?  Oh, let’s not always see the same hands.

I’d like to hear Snowe explain how the Porkulus bill for which she, Specter, and Susan Collins voted restrained government spending.  On top of a massive $3.5 trillion budget request from Barack Obama, the Porkulus Three provided the key votes to approve almost an additional trillion dollars in expanded government spending.  Not only did the three of them do that, but they stabbed their GOP colleagues in the back — including the moderates in the House who opposed the bill unanimously — when they could have forced the Democrats to craft a better bill that actually stimulated something other than key Democratic constituencies.

If Snowe thinks that Reagan would have sat silently while the three of them did all that damage, then she slept through the 1970s and the 1980s.


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If Snowe thinks that Reagan would have sat silently while the three of them did all that damage, then she slept through the 1970s and the 1980s.

Heck, she’s sleeping through the 2000s.

Snowed In on April 29, 2009 at 2:14 PM

Time to go, Snowe.

OneGyT on April 29, 2009 at 2:16 PM

Sure wish Snowe and McRino would follow Specters example.

-Dave

Dave R. on April 29, 2009 at 2:16 PM

Anyone? Anyone? Bueller? Bueller?

Present, and feeling kind of snooty. (snotty?)

RAT!

AbeFroman on April 29, 2009 at 2:17 PM

Specter, Snowe and Collins have signed a deal with the devil the day they voted for porkulus. I’m still wondering what they got in the deal.

When I die, I hope to come back as fly on the wall with residence in D.C.

Knucklehead on April 29, 2009 at 2:18 PM

Be nice to Olympia.

If she bolts the party, Democrats will say really nasty things about us.

myrenovations on April 29, 2009 at 2:19 PM

Small tent my ass. Britain had a small tent when it stood alone against Nazi-dominated Europe. Maybe Britain should have just acclimated itself to the new normal and moved left. Screw Collins and Snowe–boot ‘em.

JiangxiDad on April 29, 2009 at 2:20 PM

Chrysler was bailed out, during the Reagan administration. And, I was against it, then. If you can’t compete in a free market, then, see ya. Let the bodies hit the floor. State intervention in the private sector is State control over the private sector.

No thanks.

It is true that being a Republican moderate sometimes feels like being a cast member of “Survivor” — you are presented with multiple challenges, and you often get the distinct feeling that you’re no longer welcome in the tribe.

You are no longer wanted. Get the hell out of the Party. A Conservative Party awaits your departure. And, if RINO’s like you remain in the Republican Party, a Conservative Party will be created, literally.

OhEssYouCowboys on April 29, 2009 at 2:20 PM

They act like democrats and not just in their votes. They engage the media and rip on their own as haters when they don’t get their way.

Sounds like a democrat to me. It is never their fault.

tomas on April 29, 2009 at 2:20 PM

Didn’t Reagan primary Ford in ’76? Snowe’s quoting of Reagan is a double fail. Reagan was setting the example for Toomey and the Club for Growth 30+ years ago.

CNH_320 on April 29, 2009 at 2:21 PM

Dear Senator Snowe:

Nothing is keeping your treasonous arse in the GOP! Join your buddy Arlen in the ranks of the Democrats if you want to see intolerance. Fact of the matter is the GOP has been far more tolerant of partisan whores like you than you have any right to expect.

highhopes on April 29, 2009 at 2:22 PM

This is too rich.

Since when has SpeCleSnow (Specter, Collins, Snowe) been fiscal conservatives? Voting for the Porkulus sealed their fate as true blue liberals.

Enough of this Frum BS of having to “moderate” the party to appease a few dying dinosaurs of the Northeast Elite Rockefeller GOP.

Norwegian on April 29, 2009 at 2:23 PM

Anyone want to wager on when Snowe goes Dem?

upinak on April 29, 2009 at 2:24 PM

Spendocrat.

beatcanvas on April 29, 2009 at 2:24 PM

And remember, there’s NEVER anything new under the sun. We like to think we’re unique, but it ‘aint so. Every generation has it’s traitors and cowards and backstabbers and Quislings and Judases and whores. Collins, Snowe, Specter–all born for it. And thank you God for leading us to good, by showing us evil.

JiangxiDad on April 29, 2009 at 2:24 PM

Well we certainly don’t want the voters to hold pols accountable do we? The party certainly wasn’t punishing Specter, the party announced it was supporting him. He switched because of voter loss.

Yeah, voters have a real simple litmus test– they vote for people who hold positions with which they agree. In Snowe’s and Specter’s little worlds voters have an obligation to vote for incumbents.

obladioblada on April 29, 2009 at 2:25 PM

Guilty dogs always bark.

faraway on April 29, 2009 at 2:26 PM

Just sent this to Michael Steele in response to this am’s email:

My understanding is that the GOP gave money and support to Specter over Toomey before he decided to defect. Bribing him not to go just to maintain numbers, when he (and others) just sold us down the river on porkulus was disgusting. We should have kicked him out, not waited for the inevitable. And now some in the GOP are whining and blaming conservatives?

The GOP better get it’s act together. Any money I spend will continue to go to conservative groups or individual candidates I support.
- Show quoted text -

califdreamnred on April 29, 2009 at 2:26 PM

Anyone want to wager on when Snowe goes Dem?

upinak on April 29, 2009 at 2:24 PM

Snowe’s not up for re-election until 2012, so she’ll probably see which way the political winds blow in 2010 before she decides whether or not to jump.

Frum, on the other hand, will jump in six months.

Snowed In on April 29, 2009 at 2:26 PM

pro-growth policies

Snowe votes against energy production.

tax reduction

Snowe votes against tax cuts.

Slublog on April 29, 2009 at 2:28 PM

Isn’t that why we vote them in? So that they are accountable for their votes. Does she think that Specter is now going to get roses everyday from the leftists? I think they will give him a honeymoon of sorts and then they will trash him and vote him out as soon as they can. Fools. Am I missing something here? She knows where the door is.

bloggless on April 29, 2009 at 2:30 PM

Don’t let the door hit ya where the Good Lord split ya!
She and her RINOs pals are not doing us any favors. Hit the road.

ChicagoBlues on April 29, 2009 at 2:31 PM

Anyone want to wager on when Snowe goes Dem?

upinak on April 29, 2009 at 2:24 PM

Well, she’s already a Dem. She will make the switch after the Boy King pulls another major faux pas like his buzzing over NYC or pig flu.

Yesterdays Specter spectacle was just another distraction.

Knucklehead on April 29, 2009 at 2:32 PM

I emailed her after reading this in the headlines. She uses a quote that is 180 out from the point she is trying to make. Goofy.

Cindy Munford on April 29, 2009 at 2:33 PM

Chrysler was bailed out, during the Reagan administration. And, I was against it, then. If you can’t compete in a free market, then, see ya. Let the bodies hit the floor. State intervention in the private sector is State control over the private sector.

No thanks.

It is true that being a Republican moderate sometimes feels like being a cast member of “Survivor” — you are presented with multiple challenges, and you often get the distinct feeling that you’re no longer welcome in the tribe.

You are no longer wanted. Get the hell out of the Party. A Conservative Party awaits your departure. And, if RINO’s like you remain in the Republican Party, a Conservative Party will be created, literally.

OhEssYouCowboys on April 29, 2009 at 2:20 PM

The Chrysler bailout was not initiated during Reagan’s term, the year was 1979 when Jimmah Carter was POTUS.

Chrysler Bailout of 1979 http://uspolitics.about.com/od/economy/a/chryslerBailout.htm

Sparky on April 29, 2009 at 2:33 PM

As the saying goes: “With friends like this…”

AUINSC on April 29, 2009 at 2:33 PM

There is one thing wrong with your argument and your use of Ronald Reagan, Ms Snowe.

Ronald Reagan also said, “A political party cannot be all things to all people. It must represent certain fundamental beliefs which must not be compromised to political expediency or simply to swell its numbers.”

To grow our numbers you are asking us to sacrifice our core principles and beliefs. In the name of “Moderatism”, you and Specter set aside Reagan’s principle of smaller government and lower taxes when you voted for Obama’s Porkulus Bill.

How dare you invoke the name of Reagan in defense of a man and a behavior contrary to what Reagan stood for! I find you offensive and quite frankly I wish you’d go with Specter. If the GOP is to be damned, let it be damned for what it is — the Party of Less Government, Lower Taxes and Liberty.

GT on April 29, 2009 at 2:34 PM

OhEssYouCowboys on April 29, 2009 at 2:20 PM

In 1980, the government didn’t lend any money directly to Chrysler, instead guaranteeing loans to the company made by private lenders, mostly banks, in the amount of $1.2 billion (bailouts, like everything else, were cheaper back then). But in return, the government got warrants to buy Chrysler stock at a very low price. When Chrysler staged its spectacular recovery and paid off the bank loans seven years early, the warrants soared in value and the government earned some $400 million.

Then CEO Lee Iacocca tried to get the government to forego its profits — he even got into a telephone shouting match with Treasury Secretary Donald Regan. But Regan, backed by President Reagan, stuck to his guns.

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB122083202593108477.html

Any chance Obama will make us any money off the current debacle? I’m guessing more of our money is going into the black hole, also known as supporting the UAW.

cs89 on April 29, 2009 at 2:35 PM

Let the dominoes fall.
Who is next?
Snowe?
Collins?
Graham?
McCain?

Better to clean house now than later.

PrincipledPilgrim on April 29, 2009 at 2:35 PM

If Snowe thinks the GOP is just a regional party, or that it’s too right-wing, she should roll on out of here. Don’t expect us to offer you a seat at the table when we regain control, though.

Truth be told, Snowe is less conservative than Leiberman. She’d be more believable as a Blue Dog.

hawksruleva on April 29, 2009 at 2:37 PM

Chrysler Bailout of 1979 http://uspolitics.about.com/od/economy/a/chryslerBailout.htm

Sparky on April 29, 2009 at 2:33 PM

And lets not forget that they paid back every dime and it was not a bailout like what we’re seeing today. They were government back secured loans.

Knucklehead on April 29, 2009 at 2:37 PM

And this is my entire beef with Snowe’s Op-Ed. She whines about being unfairly treated, and then dares to quote President Reagan about the true litmus test for every and all Conservative and Republican–core beliefs and values that are not just views… but make up who we are…

And she doesn’t understand that she broke every single one of them. THAT is why she has been found wanting by the conservative members. THAT is why we’re so angry and fed up with Collins, Specter, and herself. NOT because we dislike moderate voices–we accept moderate voices. WE MADE ONE OUR PRESIDENTIAL NOMINEE, for beyond sake. But because THESE THREE are NOT MODERATE. They are Liberal Republicans at best, Liberal a worst, and defy the very people who voted for them.

Snowe has given the standard for Republican acceptance, and still defies it, and cries out she’s being unfairly treated.

WAKE UP. YOU ARE THE PROBLEM.

Enoxo on April 29, 2009 at 2:37 PM

Get. Out.

Youngs98 on April 29, 2009 at 2:38 PM

Just goes to show that intelligence is not required to serve in office.

coyoterex on April 29, 2009 at 2:39 PM

Honestly, what good does it do to concede issues to the left in the name of keeping Republicans in office? If they are going to vote like Democrats, why in the hell would I care what letter was next to their name?

Not that I would ever abandon my principals for electoral politics but it would be a pointless venture anyway. It would be a choice of allowing Dems to ruin the country or a combination of Republicans and Dems doing that, all the while further damaging the Republican brand. Basically one party rule either way.

I am for strong conservative values and going down fighting.

echosyst on April 29, 2009 at 2:40 PM

Is Snowe really this stupid? Does she think she can quote Reagan and we’ll nod in approval completely disregarding that she was one of only three Republicans in Congress to vote for this garbage? Maybe the better question is does she think other Republicans are this dumb.

Erich66 on April 29, 2009 at 2:44 PM

It is true that being a Republican moderate sometimes feels like being a cast member of “Survivor”

A lame comment from a simple mind.

If being a “Republican moderate” means voting in favor of Porkulus and against tax cuts, then we have no use for moderates in our party. Those are not moderate positions, they are very much Leftist. Please, Olympia, leave the Republican party, and take Collins with you.

Slightly OT, but on Fox & Friends this morning, Geraldo referred to himself as a Republican. To paraphrase Ed, if Geraldo’s a Republican, then I’m Chairman Mao.

UltimateBob on April 29, 2009 at 2:45 PM

Snowe just wants confirmation of her self-approval rating…and it isn’t going to happen.

As for Specter now being a democrat, I think the form and substance of the man are aligned much better. He is with his ideological mates and clearly little matters to him but continuing in office.

Ditto for Snowe and Collins. Come out of the closet, ladies.

The problem they all will find is their popularity with their new masters will wane. Nobody loves traitors.

Harry Schell on April 29, 2009 at 2:46 PM

Viva Revolucion! (sorry, my computer doesn’t have accents and I’m too lazy to look up the ASCII code)

Wyznowski on April 29, 2009 at 2:47 PM

Is Snowe really this stupid?

Uhh… YEAH, she’s this stupid!

ErinF on April 29, 2009 at 2:48 PM

She compares the life of a moderate Republican in Congress to being a Survivor contestant…

…the only difference being is that it takes the average Senator less than 39 days to completely sell out for money and fame.

Flyover Country on April 29, 2009 at 2:49 PM

Fire her before she can quit and claim the high-ground.

Has any journalist asked Snowe, Graham or Collins who they will support in the Pennsylvania Senate race between Specter and Toomey, or would that somehow be a loaded question?

Buddahpundit on April 29, 2009 at 2:50 PM

The worst of them are very dim. Watch them long enough and you’ll wonder if they can crack 80 on an IQ test. They think we’re that dumb because they are that dumb.

Feedie on April 29, 2009 at 2:51 PM

These politicians really think they’re royalty. Forgive me Lord, but I often wish that that fourth plane made it to the capitol

Bevan on April 29, 2009 at 2:53 PM

Is it just me or do all three of these dolts look like they need a laxative?

el rey on April 29, 2009 at 2:53 PM

Hooray! The carnival of noses is back.

Mason on April 29, 2009 at 2:54 PM

Come on, Ed, let’s be truthful here. Conservatives did not back Pat Toomey against Specter in 2004 because of fiscal or defense issues. And until this year nobody even knew what Olympia Snowe thought about fiscal policy. We all know why conservatives don’t like her and never liked Specter.

rockmom on April 29, 2009 at 2:54 PM

The whole coven is together in the pic. All that’s missing is their black pointy hats.

Feedie on April 29, 2009 at 2:59 PM

Is Snowe really this stupid?

Uhh… YEAH, she’s this stupid!

ErinF on April 29, 2009 at 2:48 PM

Also note…she went to the NYT to get this published…friend of Republicans everywhere.

AUINSC on April 29, 2009 at 3:00 PM

These elected officials think they are the party. No, they’re supposed to represent the platform of the party to a reasonable degree.

The GOP is about fiscal responsibility, a strong defense, limiting government (low taxes, etc.)… Even if that is not in vogue with 60% of the voting population right now… it is STILL the RIGHT way to go… and no one ever got anywhere by swallowing just a little poison.

If the GOP abandons conservatism, it will never come back to it. Better to jettison those who are not willing to fight for what is best than to slide away from what works just so the death takes a little longer.

mankai on April 29, 2009 at 3:01 PM

We should emphasize the things that unite us and make these the only ‘litmus test’ of what constitutes a Republican: our belief in restraining government spending

Um…wtf is she talking about? Her and her two fellow nitwits were the only Republicans in the entire congress who voted for Porkulus. Before that, only the hardcore conservatives even knew this twit’s name.

Her ostracization is about one issue, on which as Ed so clearly points out, she beclowns herself.

No, Olympia, you have been hoisted by your own petard.

Jaibones on April 29, 2009 at 3:02 PM

Come on, Ed, let’s be truthful here. Conservatives did not back Pat Toomey against Specter in 2004 because of fiscal or defense issues. And until this year nobody even knew what Olympia Snowe thought about fiscal policy. We all know why conservatives don’t like her and never liked Specter.

rockmom on April 29, 2009 at 2:54 PM

Really? Why, then?

Jaibones on April 29, 2009 at 3:03 PM

It’s time for the GOP to quit tilting at windmills on social issues and start hammering on fiscal ones. The gay marriage and abortion issues are red herrings designed to throw us off of the real issue of fiscal conservatism. Now that we have porkulus, TARP, and are on the brink of nationalized everything for which our children’s children will be paying long after we take the dirt nap, let the Dems own the certain fallout while we hammer them on it. Obama’s actions belie his campaign rhetoric, and we should be pressing the point at every opportunity. I suggest that the GOP find some folks with a spine to push back hard on the spendthrift ways of the Dems. My children are disgusted, and I suspect that other young adults will be when the point is made that they will live a lifetime of crushing debt on top of the $30-40,000 in school loans that they must repay.

College Prof on April 29, 2009 at 3:09 PM

Boot The Beeyatch!
Boot The Beeyatch!

Mister Ghost on April 29, 2009 at 3:12 PM

She’s a disgrace to…herself

youngO on April 29, 2009 at 3:17 PM

We all know why conservatives don’t like her and never liked Specter.

rockmom on April 29, 2009 at 2:54 PM

It’s time for the GOP to quit tilting at windmills on social issues and start hammering on fiscal ones. The gay marriage and abortion issues are red herrings designed to throw us off of the real issue of fiscal conservatism. Now that we have porkulus, TARP, and are on the brink of nationalized everything for which our children’s children will be paying long after we take the dirt nap, let the Dems own the certain fallout while we hammer them on it. Obama’s actions belie his campaign rhetoric, and we should be pressing the point at every opportunity. I suggest that the GOP find some folks with a spine to push back hard on the spendthrift ways of the Dems.

College Prof on April 29, 2009 at 3:09 PM

Here you go.

A lot of water under the bridge since 2003, but the commentary was clearly on the mark then. Weyrich notes that Toomey got a 97% rating from the American Conservative Union while Septic got a 42%. Are you two under the impression that ACU is a single-issue-abortion group or something? They aren’t.

As for Prof’s perception that the GOP is tilting at windmills, please explain. Sure the GOP has a strong pro-life platform, but as you yourself point out, that’s not driving anything right now. It’s Porkulus that spawned this very post. All Pork, all the time.

There is only one issue in national politics right now, and that is the economy, and our socialist nitwit President.

Jaibones on April 29, 2009 at 3:19 PM

The gay marriage and abortion issues are red herrings designed to throw us off of the real issue of fiscal conservatism.

College Prof on April 29, 2009 at 3:09 PM

Conservatives didn’t invent the issue of gay marriage. Are we supposed to just stand aside and let through every twisted thing you people can dream up while keeping a fixed stare on money issues?

Buddahpundit on April 29, 2009 at 3:20 PM

Sparky and cs89, my apologies about the Chrysler bailout … I had remembered it as a Reagan initiative, which it wasn’t.

Again, my apologies.

Sparky, I do, however, maintain this position, as set forth by your post:

The congressional debate will resurrect all the arguments for and against giving federal aid to any company. There is a strong case that such help rewards failure and penalizes success, puts a dull edge on competition, is unfair to an ailing company’s competitors and their shareholders, and inexorably leads the Government deeper into private business. Why should a huge company be bailed out, say critics, while thousands of smaller firms suffer bankruptcy every year? Where should the Government draw the line? GM Chairman Thomas A. Murphy has attacked federal help for Chrysler as “a basic challenge to the philosophy of America.” …

Again, my apologies for my factual error, but not for my philosophical beliefs.

OhEssYouCowboys on April 29, 2009 at 3:22 PM

The only effective sanction I can see for Republicans who vote with Democrats on matters central to conservative philosophy is to deny them campaign funding from the RNC. I can agree with that, but worry it will only result in Democrats who vote even more frequently against core conservative beliefs. How would that help promote conservative causes?

Loxodonta on April 29, 2009 at 3:22 PM

How would that help promote conservative causes?

Loxodonta on April 29, 2009 at 3:22 PM

Eventually an overwhelmingly Democratic Congress would show its true colors, and Americans would see them for what they are.

At least, that’s the way some are hoping it will happen, but by the time some Americans come around, we may be a full-blown socialist nation.

Snowed In on April 29, 2009 at 3:30 PM

You are on FIRE today Ed! Go get ‘em Tiger!

TheBigOldDog on April 29, 2009 at 3:35 PM

When you believe in nothing, you’ll fall for anything and she certainly fell hook line and sinker for Obama’s stealfromus package.

roux on April 29, 2009 at 3:37 PM

Boot! Snowe!

E L Frederick (Sniper One) on April 29, 2009 at 3:43 PM

stealfromus package is the best name I’ve seen for it so far.

Olympia you brain dead idiot, you are also full of excrement. The whole moderate schtick IS NOT PLAYING. See Captain Amnesty.

10% of republican voters STAYED HOME for the last election. People in Maine vote for you due to your party affiliation as much as anything else. Next cycle if you face someone with actual principles you will get your CLOCK CLEANED.

dogsoldier on April 29, 2009 at 3:46 PM

Snowed In on April 29, 2009 at 3:30 PM

Eventually an overwhelmingly Democratic Congress would show its true colors, and Americans would see them for what they are.

At least, that’s the way some are hoping it will happen, but by the time some Americans come around, we may be a full-blown socialist nation.

Thanks, I think Americans are already reacting to your first point. While Obama’s polling numbers remain high, some of his policies are now polling with majority opposition.

Your second point is what I fear most. This is why I have always voted for the “lesser of two evils,” instead of sitting out an election, when i really didn’t have a candidate I felt comfortable supporting. I don’t want to live through the leftists achieving their full agenda.

Loxodonta on April 29, 2009 at 3:52 PM

Like Specter, Snowe wants the Republican Party to change to make her existence more comfortable.

LIke Specter, it can’t be that she is out of touch with Republican voters …. no, the problem has to be them.

The Snowes, Specters and, yes, Frums of the world want the Republican Party to ‘moderate’ to the point where the only difference between Republicans & Democrats is the color of our jerseys.

Someone needs to tell us why a Republican Party post “Snowe/Specter/Frum-izing” will be worth the time and trouble to support.

“Providing employment opportunities for the likes of Snowe, et al.” won’t cut it.

BD57 on April 29, 2009 at 4:01 PM

B-b-but… she’s a “moderate!”

Jim Treacher on April 29, 2009 at 4:01 PM

Just goes to show that intelligence is not required to serve in office.

coyoterex on April 29, 2009 at 2:39 PM

AYUH. That’s Maine-speak for “absolutely correct”.

What’s scary is that her fellow Senator from Maine has even fewer brain cells than Oly has.

Del Dolemonte on April 29, 2009 at 4:11 PM

What’s with the ridiculous chick with the massive boobs at the top of the page advertising a dating site? She looks like absurd.

TheBlueSite on April 29, 2009 at 4:18 PM

Chrysler was bailed out, during the Reagan administration. And, I was against it, then. If you can’t compete in a free market, then, see ya. Let the bodies hit the floor. State intervention in the private sector is State control over the private sector….

OhEssYouCowboys on April 29, 2009 at 2:20 PM

Point of order; it was late 1979 when Chrysler sought their first bailout, early 1980 when Carter signed the enabling legislation, and 1982 when Chrysler repaid that loan early.

steveegg on April 29, 2009 at 4:24 PM

steveegg on April 29, 2009 at 4:24 PM

You might refer to my subsequent post regarding this matter. It would’ve saved you some time.

OhEssYouCowboys on April 29, 2009 at 4:32 PM

OhEssYouCowboys on April 29, 2009 at 3:22 PM

No biggie here. I had to look it up to be sure I remembered correctly. I haven’t searched this out, but I seem to remember Reagan having to dance a little around the issue during/after the election season due to the timing of it all.

I agree the govt. should stay out of these kinds of issues. Life is messy, though, and sometimes we all make dumb choices.

cs89 on April 29, 2009 at 4:33 PM

People forget Reagan raised taxes after first lowering them. he was no more ideologically pure than any other politician. He might have voted for the porkulus if it was politically savvy to do so, like any other politician would.

cyclosarin on April 29, 2009 at 4:38 PM

Ah, Snowe, the one “Republican” as equally-responsible for the complete failure of the Senate GOP caucus to stop ANYTHING so far this year as Specter. I believe the boss has 10 letters for you – DLTDHYOTWO.

There’s an interesting graphic over at Slate I got pointed to which shows the relationships of the 99 Senators bassed on 65% vote commonality this session. Snowe (and to a lesser extent, Collins) have more Democratic friends than Republican ones.

Related to that, last month, I took a look at the 10 points where the Republicans could have stopped the Dem onslaught under the 3/5ths rule. Specter and Snowe voted to sabotage the firewall 9 times apiece; the difference is Specter attempted to make the total failure rate 100% instead of 90%.

steveegg on April 29, 2009 at 4:40 PM

OhEssYouCowboys on April 29, 2009 at 4:32 PM

I’m a linear reader, and the timing of the first Chrysler bailout is something on the top of my head. Mea culpa.

steveegg on April 29, 2009 at 4:42 PM

People forget Reagan raised taxes after first lowering them. he was no more ideologically pure than any other politician. He might have voted for the porkulus if it was politically savvy to do so, like any other politician would.

cyclosarin on April 29, 2009 at 4:38 PM

The top tax rate fell from 70 percent in 1980 to 28 percent in 1988 during the Reagan years.

We can play this game all day if ya wanna. ;)

HondaV65 on April 29, 2009 at 4:47 PM

Snowe and Collins can move their asses across the isle any time they want. Just look how welcome Arlen has been.

GarandFan on April 29, 2009 at 4:54 PM

If you read between the lines in Snowe’s piece, what she is saying is, “It is wrong to challenge us. We will do whatever it takes to keep our lucrative playpen with all its privileges.” She acts as though it is an affront to senators that people in the state they represent like the cut of someone else’s jib better.

The other reason I don’t buy her crap is that I’m a libertarian Republican. I disagree with conservatives on everything from abortion and borders to yaks and zygotes. Still, I find many more points of agreement and have no difficulty sharing a party with them.

No, the difference is not ideological between conservatives and moderates. It is institutional between congress critters and the people. There are a lot more Republican senators and reps whose views are out of whack. The sooner we get them either out or on track, the better.

My own representative, Michael Burgess, spoke at the Tea Party in Denton, TX, saying, “My job is not to represent Washington to you. It is to represent you to Washington.” That’s what he has done, and that’s what a lot of the others need to learn.

Chaz on April 29, 2009 at 4:54 PM

AYUH. That’s Maine-speak for “absolutely correct”.

When I was in Maine last fall, Del, I’m pretty sure that’s what the service station attendant offered to put in my tire that was low.

Chaz on April 29, 2009 at 5:04 PM

I believe Snowe also bolted on the Iraq war – and supported Reid’s Democratic legislation for a timeline for withdrawal.

Yeah – she’s a solid “Reagan Warrior” … or something.

HondaV65 on April 29, 2009 at 5:22 PM

Follow his lead Ms RINO. We don’t want you. Join your colleague and come out of your democrap closet!

jwp1964 on April 29, 2009 at 6:13 PM

Snowe fails her own GOP litmus test

With delay Olympia, go join your pal Arlen in the party of hell, and PUUUUHLEZZZ, take Susan Collins with you…Good riddance to three crappy RINOs!

byteshredder on April 29, 2009 at 9:14 PM

What the GOP doesn’t understand is that the PEOPLE don’t want a seat in the senate if that senator is a Snowe, Collins or Specter, just because they have an R behind their names. That is what my senator, Cornyn and the GOP need to understand. What is the difference if Snowe, Collins or Specter are elected as Republicans if they vote with the Democrats? D’oh! Specter should have been thrown out when Toomey first ran, but Bush and Santorum supported Specter because they thought he would win, which he did. Little good it did the Republicans! I understand that Republicans think we can’t win in the northeast, but Reagan did. What they need to do is to preach conservatism, get their message out instead of propping up liberal republicans like Specter, Snowe and Collins. These liberal “conservatives” just give all conservatives a bad rep and further distance our message from the American people.

Neocon Peg on April 29, 2009 at 9:26 PM

What makes Soylent Green so tasty is RINOs.
Soylent Green….now with more RINOs!
Let’s eat them all.

You still here?! Comon!! (clap clap)

Coronagold on April 30, 2009 at 12:02 AM