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		<title>By: The Greenroom &#187; Forum Archive &#187; The hollow howl of the RINOs</title>
		<link>http://hotair.com/archives/2009/04/28/what-did-specter-represent-besides-himself/comment-page-3/#comment-2163118</link>
		<dc:creator>The Greenroom &#187; Forum Archive &#187; The hollow howl of the RINOs</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 May 2009 15:18:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] was comfortable with all of this, as a true RINO; he voted for the trillion-dollar &#8220;stimulus&#8221; giveaway, just as he voted to water down [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Arlen Makes Some New Friends &#171; Around The Sphere</title>
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		<dc:creator>Arlen Makes Some New Friends &#171; Around The Sphere</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 May 2009 04:17:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Fewer Morals Than Judas &#171; Track-A-&#8217;Crat: The Roll Call of Democratic Delinquency</title>
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		<dc:creator>Fewer Morals Than Judas &#171; Track-A-&#8217;Crat: The Roll Call of Democratic Delinquency</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 May 2009 00:17:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] a word of reason.  Arlen Specter is not entirely without [...]</description>
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		<title>By: The Liberty Papers &#187;Blog Archive &#187; Except for a few crapweasel holdouts, Arlen Specter unites the left and the right</title>
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		<dc:creator>The Liberty Papers &#187;Blog Archive &#187; Except for a few crapweasel holdouts, Arlen Specter unites the left and the right</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Apr 2009 21:36:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] What did Specter represent besides himself? by Ed Morrissey: &#8220;But what core values does Specter represent? &#8220; [...]</description>
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		<title>By: evergreen</title>
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		<dc:creator>evergreen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Apr 2009 19:13:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;Yet one more step in the GOP’s long march to irrelevance.

maleman on April 29, 2009 at 7:05 PM&lt;/blockquote&gt;

One more step into the Dems&#039; having no more excuses for why they can&#039;t govern their way out of a paper bag.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Yet one more step in the GOP’s long march to irrelevance.</p>
<p>maleman on April 29, 2009 at 7:05 PM</p></blockquote>
<p>One more step into the Dems&#8217; having no more excuses for why they can&#8217;t govern their way out of a paper bag.</p>
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		<title>By: entagor</title>
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		<dc:creator>entagor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Apr 2009 16:25:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Frum writes as if Specter was in the GOP because he wanted to follow his dream and short sighted punks forced him out 

Specter got into the GOP because they gave him a better deal

The GOP, i.e. the Bush amnesty RINOs rescued Specter in the last election so he could be in place to move amnesty through against the wishes of the base. It almost worked

Now, Specter has the same primary challege he had the last time, but Obama has needs, so Specter made his usual move towards the biggest plate of stew, and traded his vote to the Dems to keep up the life support

Lost in all this slime are the needs of the GOP base which is conservative, not liberal. The base is becoming more conservative as the DEM majority pushes the envelope

Specter is an expensive little rodent, good for one or two concession while he destroys the rest of the infrastructure</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Frum writes as if Specter was in the GOP because he wanted to follow his dream and short sighted punks forced him out </p>
<p>Specter got into the GOP because they gave him a better deal</p>
<p>The GOP, i.e. the Bush amnesty RINOs rescued Specter in the last election so he could be in place to move amnesty through against the wishes of the base. It almost worked</p>
<p>Now, Specter has the same primary challege he had the last time, but Obama has needs, so Specter made his usual move towards the biggest plate of stew, and traded his vote to the Dems to keep up the life support</p>
<p>Lost in all this slime are the needs of the GOP base which is conservative, not liberal. The base is becoming more conservative as the DEM majority pushes the envelope</p>
<p>Specter is an expensive little rodent, good for one or two concession while he destroys the rest of the infrastructure</p>
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		<title>By: Don&#8217;t Let the Door Hit Ya&#8217;&#8230; : Zoominac</title>
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		<dc:creator>Don&#8217;t Let the Door Hit Ya&#8217;&#8230; : Zoominac</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Apr 2009 14:47:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Pennsylvania, on its 150th Anniversary&#8221;??? Some more of Specter&#8217;s highlights, from Ed Morrissey at Hot Air: What did his Porkulus vote tell us about his core values?  He doesn’t support the social-issues [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Pennsylvania, on its 150th Anniversary&#8221;??? Some more of Specter&#8217;s highlights, from Ed Morrissey at Hot Air: What did his Porkulus vote tell us about his core values?  He doesn’t support the social-issues [...]</p>
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		<title>By: oldorch</title>
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		<dc:creator>oldorch</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Apr 2009 14:40:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>interesting  is chris dodd now thinking of becoming a republican</description>
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		<title>By: Merovign</title>
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		<dc:creator>Merovign</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Apr 2009 14:27:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>All this talk about how the left won&#039;t be able to blame Republicans now - come on, if there was one Republican left in the world, the MSM would still blame them for everything.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>All this talk about how the left won&#8217;t be able to blame Republicans now &#8211; come on, if there was one Republican left in the world, the MSM would still blame them for everything.</p>
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		<title>By: Benedict Arlen Specter finally and officially out of the closet. Ditches the GOP to become a democrat &#124; Rush Limbaugh says take McCain and your daughter with you! &#124; Fire Andrea Mitchell!</title>
		<link>http://hotair.com/archives/2009/04/28/what-did-specter-represent-besides-himself/comment-page-3/#comment-2158888</link>
		<dc:creator>Benedict Arlen Specter finally and officially out of the closet. Ditches the GOP to become a democrat &#124; Rush Limbaugh says take McCain and your daughter with you! &#124; Fire Andrea Mitchell!</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Apr 2009 06:07:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] So when the country officially goes down the toilet with the filibuster proof senate, will libtards still beable to blame the GOP and Booosh? [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] So when the country officially goes down the toilet with the filibuster proof senate, will libtards still beable to blame the GOP and Booosh? [...]</p>
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		<title>By: DrZin</title>
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		<dc:creator>DrZin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Apr 2009 06:05:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Is it wrong to hope that Specter soon suffers a horrifically painful death and spends an eternity in hell?</description>
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		<title>By: Pole-Cat</title>
		<link>http://hotair.com/archives/2009/04/28/what-did-specter-represent-besides-himself/comment-page-3/#comment-2158638</link>
		<dc:creator>Pole-Cat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Apr 2009 03:13:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There are no Democrats and there are no Republicans anymore, JUST greedy selfish bastards.  I got my pitchfork and I say fork’em, fork’em all.  Even throw out the good ones, if you could find a good one!  Not even smelly northwest hippy anarchist could do what these traitors have just done to us.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There are no Democrats and there are no Republicans anymore, JUST greedy selfish bastards.  I got my pitchfork and I say fork’em, fork’em all.  Even throw out the good ones, if you could find a good one!  Not even smelly northwest hippy anarchist could do what these traitors have just done to us.</p>
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		<title>By: Moralia - Benedict Arlen</title>
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		<dc:creator>Moralia - Benedict Arlen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Apr 2009 02:05:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] reactions are too numerous to mention more than a few &#8212; Malkin, Ace, Hot Air, for starters.  And then there&#8217;s this nasty bit of photoshopping from S. Weasel.  [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] reactions are too numerous to mention more than a few &#8212; Malkin, Ace, Hot Air, for starters.  And then there&#8217;s this nasty bit of photoshopping from S. Weasel.  [...]</p>
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		<title>By: maleman</title>
		<link>http://hotair.com/archives/2009/04/28/what-did-specter-represent-besides-himself/comment-page-3/#comment-2157215</link>
		<dc:creator>maleman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Apr 2009 23:05:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yet one more step in the GOP&#039;s long march to irrelevance.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yet one more step in the GOP&#8217;s long march to irrelevance.</p>
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		<title>By: Arlen Specter - Who Cares? &#124; Veer Right</title>
		<link>http://hotair.com/archives/2009/04/28/what-did-specter-represent-besides-himself/comment-page-3/#comment-2155861</link>
		<dc:creator>Arlen Specter - Who Cares? &#124; Veer Right</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Apr 2009 17:46:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] HotAir: I’ll take exception to both the “catastrophe” and the idea that we lost any influence in [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Star20</title>
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		<dc:creator>Star20</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Apr 2009 17:14:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>His expression looks like he just had a meeting with Barney Frank.</description>
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		<title>By: thegreatbeast</title>
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		<dc:creator>thegreatbeast</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Apr 2009 16:39:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Big tent talk irks me. Republicanism contains everything required to make it successful. Where it has failed is in choosing its representatives at every level of government. Politicians as a class are greasy and prone to pandering. Finding the good ones is devilishly hard.
Mr. Morrissey has it right. Specter is not a loss. As a matter of fact, Republicans had the choice some time ago to cut their losses with Specter but did not have the stones to do it. C&#039;est dommage!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Big tent talk irks me. Republicanism contains everything required to make it successful. Where it has failed is in choosing its representatives at every level of government. Politicians as a class are greasy and prone to pandering. Finding the good ones is devilishly hard.<br />
Mr. Morrissey has it right. Specter is not a loss. As a matter of fact, Republicans had the choice some time ago to cut their losses with Specter but did not have the stones to do it. C&#8217;est dommage!</p>
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		<title>By: Web Roundup: Senator Specter the Defector &#171; The Right Knight</title>
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		<dc:creator>Web Roundup: Senator Specter the Defector &#171; The Right Knight</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Apr 2009 16:37:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Ed Morrissey: Specter represented himself [...]</description>
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		<title>By: ManInBlack</title>
		<link>http://hotair.com/archives/2009/04/28/what-did-specter-represent-besides-himself/comment-page-3/#comment-2155529</link>
		<dc:creator>ManInBlack</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Apr 2009 16:34:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As frightening as a 60-vote majority is, it does mean that the failures are all on the Democrats, they own this crisis and continue to make it worse, They can&#039;t blame Bush or the Republicans anymore, and people will know it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As frightening as a 60-vote majority is, it does mean that the failures are all on the Democrats, they own this crisis and continue to make it worse, They can&#8217;t blame Bush or the Republicans anymore, and people will know it.</p>
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		<title>By: Sir Napsalot</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sir Napsalot</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Apr 2009 16:26:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Good analysis, Ed.  However, you missed the one point, though.

Specter&#039;s switch will make the  super majority 60-vote for the Dems.  For which, he could be expected to bargain for his own good, also be eyed and courted as the newest darling in the media and the left.

Which politician won&#039;t sell the grandmother for a little love?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good analysis, Ed.  However, you missed the one point, though.</p>
<p>Specter&#8217;s switch will make the  super majority 60-vote for the Dems.  For which, he could be expected to bargain for his own good, also be eyed and courted as the newest darling in the media and the left.</p>
<p>Which politician won&#8217;t sell the grandmother for a little love?</p>
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		<title>By: ManInBlack</title>
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		<dc:creator>ManInBlack</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Apr 2009 16:06:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;Specter wins hands down as it stands now. Let’s see what Toomey pulls.

If a Dem primary knocks out Specter then it’s even better because the choice is more clear cut for us and the people of PA.

&lt;strong&gt;ckoeber &lt;/strong&gt;on April 28, 2009 at 6:57 PM&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Arrogance doesn&#039;t become anyone. You know nothing more than anyone here about where that election will go, so stop your on the cheap prognostication, it isn&#039;t amusing or useful. 

It will be an interesting election, that is all we know right now</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Specter wins hands down as it stands now. Let’s see what Toomey pulls.</p>
<p>If a Dem primary knocks out Specter then it’s even better because the choice is more clear cut for us and the people of PA.</p>
<p><strong>ckoeber </strong>on April 28, 2009 at 6:57 PM</p></blockquote>
<p>Arrogance doesn&#8217;t become anyone. You know nothing more than anyone here about where that election will go, so stop your on the cheap prognostication, it isn&#8217;t amusing or useful. </p>
<p>It will be an interesting election, that is all we know right now</p>
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		<title>By: seven</title>
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		<dc:creator>seven</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Apr 2009 15:59:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>http://newsbusters.org/blogs/tom-blumer/2009/04/29/specter-switches-ira-einhorn-saga-deserves-wider-mention

Arlen Sphincter defended the stinky murderor/cofounder of earth day Ira Einhorn.  The news goes un reported.  It stinks.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://newsbusters.org/blogs/tom-blumer/2009/04/29/specter-switches-ira-einhorn-saga-deserves-wider-mention" rel="nofollow">http://newsbusters.org/blogs/tom-blumer/2009/04/29/specter-switches-ira-einhorn-saga-deserves-wider-mention</a></p>
<p>Arlen Sphincter defended the stinky murderor/cofounder of earth day Ira Einhorn.  The news goes un reported.  It stinks.</p>
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		<title>By: RaisinsofWrath</title>
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		<dc:creator>RaisinsofWrath</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Apr 2009 15:42:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If I was a Democrat I would be pissed. Specter is a 80 yr old self serving politician who only votes his own self interest. He would have been defeated in the primary &amp; chances are very good the Dems would have picked up the seat anyway by defeating Tomey.


So instead of gaining the seat with a younger more vibrant Lefty,.. The Dems gain it with Arlen Specter, an old self-center political hack....


One could say the jokes on them if they think Benedict Arlen actually believes their agenda,... he only believes in saving his own hide.... 


Could be a long 8 yrs for the Lefties to tolerate this guy..</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If I was a Democrat I would be pissed. Specter is a 80 yr old self serving politician who only votes his own self interest. He would have been defeated in the primary &amp; chances are very good the Dems would have picked up the seat anyway by defeating Tomey.</p>
<p>So instead of gaining the seat with a younger more vibrant Lefty,.. The Dems gain it with Arlen Specter, an old self-center political hack&#8230;.</p>
<p>One could say the jokes on them if they think Benedict Arlen actually believes their agenda,&#8230; he only believes in saving his own hide&#8230;. </p>
<p>Could be a long 8 yrs for the Lefties to tolerate this guy..</p>
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		<title>By: sabbott</title>
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		<dc:creator>sabbott</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Apr 2009 15:05:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>When asked where&#039;s Arlen, Barney Frank replied &quot;bent over his office desk where I left him...&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>When asked where&#8217;s Arlen, Barney Frank replied &#8220;bent over his office desk where I left him&#8230;&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: vimrich</title>
		<link>http://hotair.com/archives/2009/04/28/what-did-specter-represent-besides-himself/comment-page-2/#comment-2155290</link>
		<dc:creator>vimrich</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Apr 2009 14:59:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The problem with the Frum argument is that his Big Tent led directly to the Bush era Republicanism - Terri Shaivo, massive spending, expansion of government, nation building foreign policy and so on.

What Frum has to answer is &quot;what&#039;s the point of being a Republican?&quot;  Other than the social/culture wars stuff (which is not something politics is well suited to EVER address) the R&#039;s and D&#039;s were indistinguishable anyway - a slight matter of degree and rhetoric.  

As a small-l libertarian, I can find almost nothing to like about the Bush years version of the Republican party.  I&#039;m no fan of the Limbaugh types, but at least they offer SOME attempt at lower spending and fiscal restraint.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The problem with the Frum argument is that his Big Tent led directly to the Bush era Republicanism &#8211; Terri Shaivo, massive spending, expansion of government, nation building foreign policy and so on.</p>
<p>What Frum has to answer is &#8220;what&#8217;s the point of being a Republican?&#8221;  Other than the social/culture wars stuff (which is not something politics is well suited to EVER address) the R&#8217;s and D&#8217;s were indistinguishable anyway &#8211; a slight matter of degree and rhetoric.  </p>
<p>As a small-l libertarian, I can find almost nothing to like about the Bush years version of the Republican party.  I&#8217;m no fan of the Limbaugh types, but at least they offer SOME attempt at lower spending and fiscal restraint.</p>
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