UAW to get 39% of GM, Obama administration 50% …
posted at 10:06 am on April 28, 2009 by Ed Morrissey
Imagine you’re one of the bondholders of GM, the people who bought the automaker’s debt in order to invest in the company and keep it running over the last several years. Now that the company is near collapse, the Treasury offers you this deal. Even though you own $27 billion in GM bonds, you’d get 10% of the company. The UAW, which has a claim on $20 billion for its health-care and pensions obligations, would only have to sacrifice half of that to get 39%. The feds, who will invest another $9 billion to bring their total investment to the same level as your bonds, wants 51%.
Meanwhile, however, bondholders pose a major stumbling block to the restructuring. Under the proposed offering which GM filed with the Securities and Exchange Commission, investors holding $27.2 billion of GM bonds would swap those bonds for 10 percent of the equity shares of the restructured company. The United Auto Workers would get up to 39 percent of the company in return for half of the $20 billion GM owes to a health fund for retired workers. Current shareholders would get 1 percent of the new shares.
The Treasury said that to meet restructuring goals and to fulfill bond covenants, the restructuring proposal must win the support of 90 percent of the bondholders, an uphill battle because bondholders and analysts said the union had received more favorable terms even though its legal claim in bankruptcy court would be equal to the bondholders’. Investors who bought GM bonds in 2003 are particularly upset at being portrayed as obstacles because those bonds were used to provide funds for GM workers’ pension plan.
“We are deeply concerned with today’s decision by GM and the auto task force to offer only a small, inequitable percentage of stock to its bondholders in exchange for their bonds,” advisers to an ad hoc group of bondholders said in a statement last night. “We believe the offer to be a blatant disregard of fairness for the bondholders who have funded this company and amounts to using taxpayer money to show political favoritism of one creditor over another.”
Some advisers said that GM bondholders, if they are patient, might get more money from a bankruptcy proceeding than they are being offered under the new restructuring plan.
Does anyone at the Treasury do math any longer? The total sacrifice of all three parties would be $64 billion, of which the federal government and the bondholders are contributing the same percentage: 42.2%. The UAW will contribute about 15.6%. Why would the Obama administration expect bondholders to contribute 42% of the solution in order to gain 10% of the company? Granted, GM wasn’t exactly the best-run business, but only a bureaucrat would take that kind of offer — or be arrogant enough to make that kind of offer.
Small wonder the bondholders are balking at this proposal. They’d be better off in bankruptcy court, where their claims would get equal weight on a cost basis with the UAW and Treasury.
This is not just mere mathematical incompetence, however. Obama and his team want to engineer a political bankruptcy and dismantling of GM in order to pick their own winners and losers. Granting the UAW almost 40% of the company on a 15% investment makes no sense outside of Obama’s need to keep unions on his side while GM commits to much-needed downsizing and brand consolidation.
The Obama administration claims that the de facto nationalization of GM through their own claim on a majority stake in the company is an unhappy coincidence, but few are buying that explanation:
“Government ownership is an unfortunate outcome of this, not a goal,” said one person familiar with Obama administration deliberations and who spoke on condition of anonymity in order to preserve his relationships with officials. He said the government “could have gotten nothing for something, or something for something” and that it insisted on a 50 percent stake to leave open the potential to recover some of the $18 billion the Treasury Department has already lent GM and the additional $9 billion that it would inject under the new plan.
Some members of Congress and economists expressed concern that the government was effectively nationalizing GM and might exert influence over company decisions, despite its denials. Luigi Zingales, a finance professor of finance at the University of Chicago, said it would be “irresistible for the political system not to exercise some pressure. Do you not think they will push GM to make green cars? Maybe that’s the right thing to do and maybe not. But it shouldn’t be decided by Congress.”
The clear goal from the Obama administration is nationalization, in order to protect their relationships with unions, starting with the UAW. The green-car motivation plays a role as well. Obama talked often of the need to overhaul the American auto industry in order to produce energy-efficient cars on renewables. If he owns a majority stake in GM, Obama can make those decisions himself, along with the Democrats in Congress. The federal government never fails to exercise power it grants itself, and anyone who thinks that Obama would not take advantage of that majority position is either drinking the Democratic Kool-Aid or simply hasn’t paid attention.
If they didn’t want the majority position, why did they demand it in this offer to the bondholders, especially since they’re not investing any more than the private sector did? They didn’t demand that power just to leave it on the sidelines.
Addendum: I can’t resist pointing out the Department of Redundancy Department moment in the WaPo’s piece: “Luigi Zingales, a finance professor of finance at the University of Chicago …”










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“See the USA in your Chevrolet…” man that has a sci-fi post apocalyptic feel to it now…
I really wanted to buy the new Camaro…
Skywise on April 28, 2009 at 10:50 AM
The feds won’t do it directly — too many fingerprints. What they’ll do is OK an absurdly benefit-laden UAW deal with GM (and with Chrysler, if they survive under a similar plan) which would be backed by all the taxpayer $$$ supporting the bailout, and then force Ford to match it at the risk of a crippling strike.
Then the Ford family and their top execs will be faced with being a defacto arm of the UAW and the Obama Administration or have no product to sell due to a long-term strike (so if I were a UAW worker at a Ford plant right about now, I’d be keeping a close eye on my union’s strategerie over the next year or two, to see if their jobs and paychecks don’t become pawns in an effort to get the union leaders what they’ve wanted all along).
jon1979 on April 28, 2009 at 10:51 AM
This is more facism than socialism.
riverrat10k on April 28, 2009 at 10:51 AM
I thought about that before I posed my question above. I think that, if the net value of the company is less than zero, then in a bankrutcy the shareholders are s.o.l.
gh on April 28, 2009 at 10:52 AM
“Why would the Obama administration expect bondholders to contribute 42% of the solution in order to gain 10% of the company?”
Because this is the moment the oligarchists are reaching for the jugular to destroy capitalism, so that they will gain total control of the country and population, and finally defeat their arch enemy, private business, which for the last 100 years has contained the power of government by delivering lifestyle improvements far beyond what any government has ever done.
And when private business succombs, the ferociously corrupt, deceiptful, power-mad politicians will become impossible-to-displace commissars-for-life of the United States.
That’s how it worked in the USSR, and that’s what the UAW and libwits are supporting…..so that they can live forever 20% better (they think) than they can live now.
And the country will descend into poverty and chaos, while the commissars live like the grandees of old.
notagool on April 28, 2009 at 10:52 AM
This is great news for Ford and Jap cars. plus Korea.
The only car chrysler has that is unique is Jeep. GM has some good products in it’s line up but not for long. It is clear Obama has never run a business. He is so dirt ignorant to believe he can alienate shareholders and customers and they will remain loyal.
(secretly he may be turbo stupid and think he can take over and run up the stock and turn a profit on pumping up stock price) no one wants stock in a union owned company. Too much embezzlement.
seven on April 28, 2009 at 10:52 AM
America as we’ve known it is gone forever. Each individual must decide the implications of this for himself and proceed accordingly. I’ve determined to err on the side of caution. The future is not likely to be pleasant.
Bugler on April 28, 2009 at 10:52 AM
Um, question…
Won’t this take legislation to Appropriate the money for this?
How can the Executive branch of Government use Public funds to Nationalize a company, without the Congress getting involved…
Was TARP so broadly written that they can use those funds for this? Or, will they attempt to use those funds illegaly hoping no one will notice, or do oversite?
Romeo13 on April 28, 2009 at 10:53 AM
As for quality control, would you buy a car assembled by a government clerk who knows they will get a raise this year regardless of the quality of their work?
Well, right now they’re pumping out cars assembled by union workers that know they’ll get a raise every year regardless of the quality of their work. That’s why I have a non-union built Toyota.
shibumi on April 28, 2009 at 10:55 AM
That’s the beauty of it; the money’s already been spent on the government end. Rather than repay the Treasury with cash,
GeneralGovernment Motors will repay with stock. There’s no legislative intervention required (not that this Congress would refuse this gift of Socialism).steveegg on April 28, 2009 at 10:57 AM
Bondholders becoming owners of the company? I thought that was what stockholders were? Bondholders own debt, which has a higher claim on assets than stockholders, yes? The stockholders may have little value, but they are the one who get to vote, unless a court steps in during bankruptcy, yes? So which did the government buy, bonds or stock? Can someone explain this to me?
AnotherOpinion on April 28, 2009 at 10:57 AM
Given the Air Force 1 incident yesterday, sounds like we have a remake set for Planes, Trains, and Automobiles.
First draft of revised script:
Taxpayer: And I really don’t care for the way the government destroyed my ******* savings while destroying my ******* 401(k) forcing me into a ******* healthcare system that I forces me to wait ******* six months to see a ******* doctor. And I really didn’t care to ******* pay taxes on ******* income that I already paid ******* taxes on to have watch ******* Obama tell me he is going to cut the ******* deficits with smile at his ******* face. I want a ******* responsible government RIGHT… ******* … NOW!
WashJeff on April 28, 2009 at 10:57 AM
I’m betting it all that GPS tracking will be a standard feature on all Government Motors’ vehicles. Maybe a proprietary radio that conveniently blocks talk radio. Oh and maybe something like a remotely operated ignition kill switch. To, you know, make it easier for the brown shirts to round up those pesky right wing extremists.
BardMan on April 28, 2009 at 10:57 AM
The US govt is becoming more and more like the Mafia, getting its tentacles into everything, bullying, with the threat of brutal enforcement. Barack Oprompter is the Dapper Don. Just say no to the Mafia.
Paul-Cincy on April 28, 2009 at 10:57 AM
This can’t be said enough.
JonPrichard on April 28, 2009 at 10:57 AM
OK folks, how does it feel to fight communism for nearly 50 years just to have it move to your backyard and take over your government and your country . . . with of course the enlightened consent of all the nation’s liberal, left wing voters?
rplat on April 28, 2009 at 10:59 AM
It’s going to be fun to watch the UAW try to run an auto company. Sadly, they’ll never be allowed to fail at it.
alflauren on April 28, 2009 at 10:59 AM
Buy a Chevy, otherwise the govt will put you in jail.
MarkTheGreat on April 28, 2009 at 11:00 AM
Yea it’s not like they took over the company, fired the CEO, and split the company ownership up between the workers union and government while telling the bondholders to take a hike.
Oops.
Joe Caps on April 28, 2009 at 11:01 AM
Sort of reminds me of the current AfPak conflict with the following roles:
- Communists => Taliban
- Afghanistan => USSR
- Pakistan => USA
WashJeff on April 28, 2009 at 11:02 AM
With Obama and the Union running GM … this can only mean one thing!
INVEST HARD IN FORD!
Seriously – this is a no brainer. Goodbye GM – it was nice to know ya.
HondaV65 on April 28, 2009 at 11:03 AM
This make me want to run out and invest.
hillbillyjim on April 28, 2009 at 11:04 AM
I suppose fascism is the government giving you what you have and telling you what you can do with it. Socialism is the government telling you what you can have and what you can do with it. Potato/Potahto.
gwelf on April 28, 2009 at 11:05 AM
Ironically, this may turn out to be a good thing for two reasons.
1) The union is run primarily for the benefit of those who run it.
2) Those who run the union have never been shy about shafting their members in order to enrich themselves.
Since the UAW (read leadership) has a stake in the profitability of Chrysler, you can expect the unions to take a much more concilliatory position in all future labor negotiations. Heck, they might even de-unionize.
MarkTheGreat on April 28, 2009 at 11:05 AM
GM is now tainted by government-flu it must be destroyed before.
jaboba on April 28, 2009 at 11:05 AM
I bought the new BMW 135i last May. I’m not going to support a socialist system in this country. What this clueless administration doesn’t seem to get is that every system runs on money. Ours in this case. I predict by November 2012 the unemployment rate in this country will be above 25%, if President Zero lasts that long…….
By the way, the twin turbo straight six totally kicks ass…
adamsmith on April 28, 2009 at 11:08 AM
They are going bankrupt. No way the bond holders go for this.
I just bought 100 shares of Ford a few days ago. I applaud them for running a sound business. . . and I’m a GM guy like my father and his father. I used to hate Ford. Now I own a piece of them because they have done right.
ThackerAgency on April 28, 2009 at 11:09 AM
There will be.
MarkTheGreat on April 28, 2009 at 11:10 AM
What’s that smell?…
mojo on April 28, 2009 at 11:11 AM
Can we start fighting back now?
Where’s the Republican leadership? Someone … anyone … must demand Americans stand up against Obama’s tyranny.
darwin on April 28, 2009 at 11:11 AM
funny. I laughed.
ThackerAgency on April 28, 2009 at 11:12 AM
The comparison to British Leyland is striking
From wikipedia:
daesleeper on April 28, 2009 at 11:13 AM
Never bought a GM vehicle and now never will. I’ve had Fords but now I will exclusively buy foreign. I will not support the mafia of the UAW.
darwin on April 28, 2009 at 11:14 AM
This is priceless, now the UAW will be in conflict with their own interest being owners of GM and Chrysler..
ha ha ha ha ha ha ah.
I am a Ford man now.
Vive la Henry Ford!
TheSitRep on April 28, 2009 at 11:14 AM
Of course, I’m keeping my paid for suped up Hummer.
ThackerAgency on April 28, 2009 at 11:16 AM
Oh please name it this, please Barack!
jeff_from_mpls on April 28, 2009 at 11:20 AM
Stockholders OWN a company
Bond holders LOAN money to companies.
Are these twits in the WH and Treasury that power hungry?
I suggest a massive short/ naked short sale on GM.
BTW – past 3 month stock performance of
Ford: http://finance.yahoo.com/echarts?s=F#symbol=F;range=3m
GM: http://finance.yahoo.com/echarts?s=GM#symbol=GM;range=3m
Looks like the street prefers the free market route, what a surprise…
Odie1941 on April 28, 2009 at 11:20 AM
And for the luxury upscale model?
The “O’s mobile”!
Romeo13 on April 28, 2009 at 11:21 AM
Yes, I know. But today’s market cap is driven by what the company is worth to today’s stockholders. Once the restructuring takes place and today’s stockholders are wiped out, tomorrow’s stockholders will evaluate the company’s worth differently. It’s apples and oranges. A better metric for gauging the company’s worth to tomorrow’s shareholders would be to look at the total trading value of the bonds outstanding.
hicsuget on April 28, 2009 at 11:22 AM
Somebody may have brought this up but we have long established laws in this country regarding the rights of debt holders. If I held a substantial amount of GM debt I would use those rights today to force GM into liquidation rather than allow the Government at the UAW to rob me!
The Country formerly known as the United States of America is on life support and is not expected to survive.
TheBigOldDog on April 28, 2009 at 11:23 AM
This person has it figured out.
notagool on April 28, 2009 at 11:23 AM
Somehow I doubt Fiat will take their 35% if the union will own more.
steveegg on April 28, 2009 at 11:24 AM
I was a Ford owner nearly my entire life. Then I purchased a low-milage Chevy Trailblazer from my daughter. One of the best, and most dependable vehicles I have owned.
If I needed to replace the vehicle it was going to be another Trailblazer. Not now. I won’t take the chance, nor will I be *donating* to the *new* GM. I’ll be going back to Ford. I suspect many will be doing the same.
Yoop on April 28, 2009 at 11:26 AM
The WaPo story notes that, if 90% of the bondholders don’t agree, GM will scrap that plan and go into bankruptcy. Given that, at best, they’d get 10 cents on the dollar, I suspect they’ll take their chances in bankruptcy court.
steveegg on April 28, 2009 at 11:29 AM
Fascism (sorry for the earlier sp. error)is the government directing the means of production (businesses).
Socialism is government ownership of the businesses.
Small difference but important.
Under fascism, some corporatists still “win” as long as they play ball with the government.
Under socialism, only those in power in the government “win”.
riverrat10k on April 28, 2009 at 11:30 AM
And, they run the printing press.
Johan Klaus on April 28, 2009 at 11:30 AM
I’d be forcing them into liquidation this afternoon. Let’s see how much of my money I could get back in liquidation… better than letting teh Gov and UAW steal it.
TheBigOldDog on April 28, 2009 at 11:31 AM
Obama fired GM’s CEO last month.
Which members of Congress were so stupid as to say that the government denies that it will not “exert influence over company decisions?”
Troll Feeder on April 28, 2009 at 11:31 AM
The Peoples Progressive Auto Company.
Johan Klaus on April 28, 2009 at 11:32 AM
You might want to learn how Cubans kept their old cars going for so long.
OldEnglish on April 28, 2009 at 11:37 AM
Goldmine, meet shaft.
A lot of people are capping on Chrysler, but I think they’ve been making the best-looking American cars for some time now. The Caravan/Voyager is the best mini-van out there for the money IMHO, and the only mini-van that isn’t pug-ugly. I’ve got a ’96 Voyager with over 100K, and I’d rather drive it any day over my wife’s one year old Toyota Sienna. The rag-top Sebring of a few years ago, the current Charger, 300, the Challenger, and the Crossfire are all great-looking cars, the Viper kicks a$$ as is great-looking–only the fast-back Mustang is in the same class for looks, and the GT for performance. GM has the Camaro (which I think is ugly from the front), but no Trans-Am or even Monte Carlo SS anymore–I did a google image search for “2008 chevy super sport”–bupkus. I think the Pontiac two-seater (whatever it’s called) is sharp, but I hear it’s not that much to drive. So lay off Chrysler–I was a Chevy guy my whole life, until the mid-90′s or so, and then it just seemed to me the Chrysler cars were always better looking (which wasn’t always saying that much admittedly).
Exit question: If the stockholders can get stuck with this decision, don’t they all sell now at the first opportunity? Or is that the idea?
smellthecoffee on April 28, 2009 at 11:37 AM
Ditto, especially since financial experts are seeing a 0%-5% return, much less than the maximum of 10% I guessed based on the face value of the UAW obligations-for-shares deal.
steveegg on April 28, 2009 at 11:41 AM
And when the inevitable happens, GM goes bankrupt AGAIN because, as we all know, no government is as efficient as the private sector, then what?
amkun on April 28, 2009 at 11:41 AM
All this is doing is stifling Ford’s own recovery. They did the right thing, starting years ago they targeted plants for closure and bought out a lot of workers contracts, and began cutting back on benefits and forced concessions from the UAW. Now, after having the backbone to say no to the government they’re own recovery is being stinted because Obama is artificially propping up GM.
Let GM go under, and send Chrysler with them. Ford is properly positioned to make a comeback, all without taxpayer funding.
As an aside, if I were running Ford I’d begin working on a plan to replace UAW workers with non-union employees like the foreign automakers have done when they opened plants here in the US. Seeing how Obama is going to force UAW leadership on these companies I would try as fast as I can to make Ford the first domestic, non-UAW auto maker.
Screw the unions.
smfoushee on April 28, 2009 at 11:41 AM
Its obama-math.
Us conservatives wouldn’t understand.
sonofdy on April 28, 2009 at 11:46 AM
That’s the general idea. If the bondholders are stupid enough to go through with this, I see full government ownership inside of 2 years. The UAW and the bondholders will both need to liquidate their stakes in rather short order, and with government holding a majority stake, I just don’t see any significant private investment in Government Motors.
steveegg on April 28, 2009 at 11:48 AM
The situation with the unions, reminds me of the movie “How Green Was My Valley”.
Johan Klaus on April 28, 2009 at 11:48 AM
No incentive. Punitive enforcement.
bloviator on April 28, 2009 at 11:51 AM
I’ll never EVER buy another GM again.
Fin.
Period.
End of discussion.
Do not pass go, do not collect $200.
Yakko77 on April 28, 2009 at 11:58 AM
With the Democrats and the UAW owning GM, it will be bankrupt again inside of two years. Who’s going to buy a GM vehicle after those crooks take over?
This reminds me of when Paulie (in the movie Goodfellas) took over the restaurant in order to help the owner. After stealing everything in sight, the restaurant soon closed and the vendors were stiffed for the money.
Who’s going to buy a GM vehicle after those crooks take over?
Democrats (who voted in Obama and Congress) are Idiots!
orlandocajun on April 28, 2009 at 11:59 AM
OHHHHHHHHHHH
MYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY
God!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Arlen Specter Switching Parties Today?
by Human Events
04/28/2009
http://www.humanevents.com/article.php?id=31639
HUMAN EVENTS has learned from staff sources that Sen. Arlen Specter (R-Pa) is about to announce his switch to the Democratic Party
Baxter Greene on April 28, 2009 at 12:06 PM
The only way I can see it lasting 6 months is if the MSM provide free marketing for it the way they do for Obama. Sales are already in the tank are they not.
gh on April 28, 2009 at 12:09 PM
Toyota.
Made in the U.S.A.
Not a U.A.W. guy in sight.
Works for this cat.
mew
(I’m on my 3rd Camry and 2nd full-size pickup – zero complaints)
acat on April 28, 2009 at 12:11 PM
New ad campaign:
Bend over and grab your A,
You now own Chevrolet…
bikermailman on April 28, 2009 at 12:13 PM
Second US made Nissan Xterra here, great vehicle!
bikermailman on April 28, 2009 at 12:14 PM
liquidflorian on April 28, 2009 at 12:14 PM
WHY. IN. THE. HELL. DO. WE. NEED. GENERAL. MOTORS. AT. ALL.
rockmom on April 28, 2009 at 12:14 PM
Cluster Smuck , this will never work , the goverment and the union running a company?! It will all end in a very expensive lesson about reality. Maybe that will be worth it.
the_nile on April 28, 2009 at 12:16 PM
Bye Bye GM. We’ll miss you. How sad! :(
GM was such a big part of American culture and history. They used to represent the best in American innovation. These are sad times for our nation.
What will it take to wake people up?!
sarahpalinfan99 on April 28, 2009 at 12:17 PM
“The car you already paid for , before you even own it.”
the_nile on April 28, 2009 at 12:17 PM
Don’t the shareholders have any say in this?
JeffinSac on April 28, 2009 at 12:18 PM
He’s been a Democrat for years. This just makes it official.
MarkTheGreat on April 28, 2009 at 12:18 PM
How long before Robert Gibbs starts smearing them as “unpatriotic”? Before ACORN starts picketing at major bondholders’ homes?
These people are going to get mau-maued into taking this deal. Hide and watch. The last thing President Emanuel wants is a GM bankruptcy on his watch.
rockmom on April 28, 2009 at 12:19 PM
Specter might as well make it official. ;)
sarahpalinfan99 on April 28, 2009 at 12:20 PM
GM hasn’t been that company since the Nixon Administration. It isn’t worth saving now. Rewarding 40 years of arrogance and incompetence is not the America I thought I lived in.
rockmom on April 28, 2009 at 12:20 PM
Has it ever happened in the known history that the government and the unions have run a company profitable and prosperous , ever?
the_nile on April 28, 2009 at 12:23 PM
When’s today’s White House press conference? The tentacles of the bullies will be unleashed before the week is out.
The entire exercise, from the original
Big ThreeUAW bailout that didn’t make it out of Congress to Bush’s unilateral TARP UAW bailout, from Obama’s firing of Wagoner to the official plea for government takeover, has been about saving the UAW.steveegg on April 28, 2009 at 12:28 PM
I decided that I wouldn’t buy a GM car when I learned that not only can they track the car’s every move with OnStar, but that OnStar can shut the car down in the newer models. (They don’t cut the engine completely; they let it idle so that the steering and brakes continue to work.)
With that decision, GM made itself into an UN-American car company.
Unfortunately, so long as nanny-state dupes continue to buy their cars, they won’t learn … and the disease may spread to other car makers.
njcommuter on April 28, 2009 at 12:34 PM
Jon 1979 is right. I will not buy another GM or Chrystler. I will only buy Fords until they are forced to do the same and then I will buy Toyota.
Redglen on April 28, 2009 at 12:36 PM
I wonder if after the government owns a controlling interest of GM, if Gm will still engage in lobbing activity. It would be the politicians in charge of it lobbing themselves to do what they want to do anyway.
Will GM be aloud to donate to political candidates and PACs since it will be controlled by politicians.
SkyWatch on April 28, 2009 at 12:40 PM
Sad, I’ve been a Chevy guy ever since that proud moment when I bought my first car (a brand new ’97 S-10). I’ll keep my ’01 Silverado running as long as I can, then hello foreign competition.
By the way, Limbaugh called this months ago. Maybe with the new union/government ownership we should start calling them Amtrak Auto.
TheMightyMonarch on April 28, 2009 at 12:43 PM
I expect GM’s donation patterns to more-closely resemble the UAW’s 99-1 D-to-R ratio in each of the last 4 election cycles.
Bonus item #1 – In 2008, all three of the Not-So-Big Three donated more money to the Ds than the Rs.
Bonus item #2 – The UAW donated more in campaign contributions than all of the Formerly-Big Three each of the last 4 election cycles.
steveegg on April 28, 2009 at 12:44 PM
Hope the bondholders tell Barry and Timmy “Get fucked, see ya in court”.
GarandFan on April 28, 2009 at 12:49 PM
Don’t be surprised when the democrats start mandating “green vehicles” that only GM makes.
darwin on April 28, 2009 at 1:11 PM
What would it take to instill some humility, fear, and moderation in the administration and the Congress?
Kralizec on April 28, 2009 at 1:53 PM
In my view, it is now flatly un-American to buy a car from two of the three American car companies.
What have we come to when buying a Toyota Tundra (made in Indiana or Texas) is more patriotic than buying a GMC Sierra?
BananaSlug on April 28, 2009 at 1:59 PM
Rush predicted the UAW thing months ago. Proletariat ownership of the means of production, Check!
ebrawer on April 28, 2009 at 2:21 PM
That’s a good one nile!
orlandocajun on April 28, 2009 at 2:41 PM
The only thing TARP was written for was to secure Toxic Assets.
That’s about the only thing TARP hasn’t done.
Chaz706 on April 28, 2009 at 2:43 PM
This is the way liberty dies my friend. I dislike it as much as you do.
Chaz706 on April 28, 2009 at 2:45 PM
And one more thing: when the bonds were bought, a two way contract was entered into between GM and the bond holders. This is a way for Government Motors to squeeze themselves out of this agreement. This is a government abetted breach of contract law. Contract law is so important that it’s even touched upon in the Constitution itself. If this goes, then no contract entered between any two parties is safe: the government can meddle and decide who wins and who loses.
This has a devastating effect on confidence in the markets, and we know where that leads.
Chaz706 on April 28, 2009 at 2:49 PM
Oh, my…I used to be a loyal GM fan. I’ll be waterboarded by gay hairdressers before I buy Ford or Dodge.
So let me get this straight…the guvm’t essentially buys controlling interest in GM and Dodge/Chrysler…in direct competition with Ford and other domestic car producers still privately held…while exerting regulatory control over labor and all automotive manufacturing standards. Why, that smacks of monopolies and in direct conflict of about a thousand FTC regulations. Where is the FTC in regulating this sort of monopoly control? Oh yeah, that’s the guvm’t too…
Is it time for a revolt, yet?
Wyznowski on April 28, 2009 at 3:26 PM
General Motors products just became toxic as far as I’m concerned. There is no way I will consider owning one now.
chalons on April 28, 2009 at 4:16 PM
That is a given. I don’t know if you remember the mid-1970s, but GM had a near-monopoly on catalytic converters. Guess what came down the pike in 1975? An emissions mandate that all-but-required catalytic converters.
Even better, in 1978, Honda found a way to meet the emission standards without a catalytic converter. By 1980, the standard was rewritten to explicitly require one.
steveegg on April 28, 2009 at 4:39 PM
So — which will we end of being, an oligarchy or an autocracy? I vote for the second with the man who would be king in the WH. He treats this country, it’s people and its businesses like a bossy papa who knows best so we’d better learn to like it. This appalling facet of his personality becomes more evident daily.
jeanie on April 28, 2009 at 5:31 PM
VW, Hyundai, Nissan, Toyota and Mercedes benefit from this. I have a GMC SUV and need a new one. Fat chance. I will not buy a Chrysler or GMC product. They thought they were hurting before — just wait.
suzyk on April 28, 2009 at 5:52 PM
When I was a kid the Soviets were only allowed to get a car, and only the approved car, when the government said they could! This is the goal of Obama — along with killing coal utilities forcing a shortage of power — we will all be forced to drive little s-boxes. Probably plug ins too — with no power available. It will be a great world — NORKS, please just EMP us now…please!
LifeTrek on April 28, 2009 at 5:58 PM
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