Quotes of the day
posted at 10:30 pm on April 28, 2009 by Allahpundit
“The Specter defection is too severe a catastrophe to qualify as a ‘wake-up call.’ His defection is the thing we needed the wake-up call to warn us against! For a long time, the loudest and most powerful voices in the conservative world have told us that people like Specter aren’t real Republicans – that they don’t belong in the party. Now he’s gone, and with him the last Republican leverage within any of the elected branches of government…
Let’s take this moment to nail some colors to the mast. I submit it is better for conservatives to have 60% sway within a majority party than to have 100% control of a minority party. And until and unless there is an honored place made in the Republican party for people who think like Arlen Specter, we will remain a minority party.”
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“I would rather have 30 Republicans in the Senate who really believe in principles of limited government, free markets, free people, than to have 60 that don’t have a set of beliefs.”
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“But before Specter’s defection is automatically written up as a new chapter in Profiles in Courage, there is reason to question whether the braver, better course of action would have been to stick out another primary fight as a Republican. Specter had the support of the National Republican Senatorial Committee, which understood that his primary victory was the GOP’s best hope of holding on to the seat. Independent voters appreciate Madison’s vision of checks and balances—that’s why they so often split their tickets, especially in states like Pennsylvania. But the aim of checks and balances—so vociferously defended by Democrats when Republicans tried to invoke the so-called ‘nuclear option’ over judicial confirmations in 2005, and salvaged by the centrist Gang of 14, including Specter—is now under threat from the left. Don’t expect many Democratic warnings of the same dangers. In Washington, where you stand is a matter of where you sit. Partisanship trumps principle.”
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Step 1, GOP Leader!
Step 2,The Vision of the Party!
Step 3,Contract within the GOP!
Step 4,A version of Contract with America,
similar to Newt’s!
Step 5,The Night of the Purge(I’m Kidding)!
Sorta,kick out the RINO’s,Moderates
(Fence Sitters)and all Liberals within
the Gop,and those that lick their fingers,
ala Bill,and stick it in the air to deter
mine how they’ll vote!!!
canopfor on April 28, 2009 at 11:07 PM
Well, Davie, it would appear they were correct…
Upstater85 on April 28, 2009 at 11:08 PM
I was asking you because I assumed you knew. You’re obviously the expert here.
They’re not running for anything, honey. Are you sure you can’t get your friend Grow Neurons to take over your shift?
Jim Treacher on April 28, 2009 at 11:08 PM
When the Astroturfers show up en mas, this is the first thought that pops into my head:
You smell that? Do you smell that? Fear, son. Nothing
else in the world smells like that. I love the smell of fear in the morning. The smell, you know that cat piss smell, the whole thread. Smells like – victory.
TheBigOldDog on April 28, 2009 at 11:08 PM
canopfor:
I don’t think you need to kick out people like Lugar. He has overall been a pretty reliable conservative even though he is not as far right as someone like DeMint. You need people like Lugar, without them you can not possibly get a majority. He is not a liberal.
Terrye on April 28, 2009 at 11:09 PM
I’m not going to celebrate Specter flipping like some here are, but realistically, the me-too Republicans like Specter are exactly why we are in the mess we are in.
We had a moderate Republican president for 8 years – 4 of those years with congress held by Republicans too – and the government continued to move Left.
And then we ran a more “moderate” candidate for president and lost to Barack “Waffles” Obama.
If all moderate Republicans can do, when they can win, is slow the leftwing slide, well at this point it isn’t worth it – we’ve gone to far for it to matter. Just consider, for a moment, how today’s political culture would look to your average conservative in 1989…
We have no choice but to see now if Barack will get his wish and break America as we know it, and if the voting populace will stand for it. And if they don’t, more McCains and Bushes aren’t going to cut it. We will need serious social and economic conservatives to repair the damage the Left had already inflicted on our society and what Obama will add to it.
18-1 on April 28, 2009 at 11:09 PM
The pendulum is swinging back and the left have indeed over reached and they will pay dearly!
katy on April 28, 2009 at 11:07 PM
Sadly so will we before the pendulum is done swinging.
I have never seen such angst in people I know who are not usually political, it’s like everyone is on edge and waiting for something to blow.
Bishop on April 28, 2009 at 11:10 PM
#ssholes.
Jim Treacher on April 28,2009 at 10:43PM.
Jim Treacher: Me likey! Almost on par with,he can’t build
a cabinet!!!hehe:)
canopfor on April 28, 2009 at 11:11 PM
Yeah, I don’t celebrate it or mourn it. I think it’s a wash, but it brings clarity.
ddrintn on April 28, 2009 at 11:11 PM
You’re seeing what I’m seeing and the last time I saw it was about 35 years ago and when it finally blew it wasn’t pretty.
TheBigOldDog on April 28, 2009 at 11:12 PM
No, he’s not a liberal. He’s far more conservative than many blue state repubs…
Upstater85 on April 28, 2009 at 11:12 PM
I agree, one reason for the simple accurate response.
I suggest we all starve the trolls and focus on discussing important issues.
Too many trolls are successful at hijacking threads with BS while any kind of meaningful discussion goes down the porcelain altar.
Speakup on April 28, 2009 at 11:12 PM
Let’s just hope its something harmless like zombies.
blatantblue on April 28, 2009 at 11:13 PM
The republican party needs to clean house and throw the scum.
The democrats already control all branches with the help of these RINOs.
We are rebuilding the party to be a bold party of principle of the forefathers. And why is DeMint not the minority leader? McConnell is such an incompetent.
jencab on April 28, 2009 at 11:14 PM
That site is pathetic. It’s just a bunch of Nervous Nellies trying their best to be Democrats without actually doing something edgy like becoming Democrats.
ddrintn on April 28, 2009 at 11:14 PM
18-1:
Not all the moderates are like that. A lot of them are people who are elected by the people of their states and they represent their views. It is one thing to be a Senator from Oklahoma, it is another to be a Senator from Maine.
We have Lugar in Indiana and some people say he is a moderate, but he has been a Republican for many years and I am afraid that if he left the party a Democrat would win. I think that if a real hard core conservative ran he might not win here. But that does not mean we need or want another Democrat. Indiana is a center right state in a lot of ways and I think Republicans could win here if they keep that in mind.
Terrye on April 28, 2009 at 11:14 PM
Fittingly enough, the Watergate is back in the news.
Jim Treacher on April 28, 2009 at 11:14 PM
What Conservative principles or parts of Conservative philosophy do you disagree with and why?
What part of the Liberal agenda do you agree with and why?
I tried to get another Lib troll here on HA to answer that (getalife) and he/she never would. Or probably couldn’t. Are you so handicapped?
DerKrieger on April 28, 2009 at 11:14 PM
It feels a lot like 1933 in the Weimar Republic…doesn’t it?
18-1 on April 28, 2009 at 11:15 PM
I say Steele hire
Kucinich to go to PA to run in the primaries against Specter…
Then sink a ton of money into getting a reasonable R elected.
Upstater85 on April 28, 2009 at 11:15 PM
No they don’t. When you see your paycheck shrink next year, your taxes go thru the roof, your utility bills skyrocket and inflation kicks in, just sit back and watch the results.
Evidently you’re too young to remember the Jimmy Carter years and how Reagan handed his ass to him in that election. This country was beat to hell after 4 years of Carter, mortgage rates were 19% and people were fed up.
Just like they’ll be fed up with these spendaholic Dem’s.
Knucklehead on April 28, 2009 at 11:16 PM
Let’s just hope its something harmless like zombies.
blatantblue on April 28, 2009 at 11:13 PM
No, I can’t deal with Oflyby Groupies; they are so crazed I doubt even well-placed head shots would drop them.
Bishop on April 28, 2009 at 11:16 PM
I was referring to something much worse and more bloody and it ruined several generations…
TheBigOldDog on April 28, 2009 at 11:17 PM
Upstater:
That is true about Lugar. I have heard some conservatives complain about him, but after years of seeing this state change, I am glad he is here.
Terrye on April 28, 2009 at 11:17 PM
If you don’t think a Conservative should win then you, and the voters of IN have been successfully indoctrinated by the Dems and MSM. What part of Conservative agenda would they oppose? At its core we just want to be left alone, the assaults on our nation by Liberals/statists to stop, we want to keep the money we earn rather than sending it to DC, and basically live and let live.
DerKrieger on April 28, 2009 at 11:17 PM
I don’t think you need to kick out people like Luger.
Terrye on April 28,2009 at 11:09PM.
Terrye: Just thought provoking ideas I’m throwing out
there.
My gut tells me Olympia Snowe isn’t far behind
Spectre!
canopfor on April 28, 2009 at 11:18 PM
Just like they’ll be fed up with these spendaholic Dem’s.
Knucklehead on April 28, 2009 at 11:16 PM
So what you’re saying here is that when Oflyby cancels the “middle class” tax breaks next year, as he said he plans on doing, that people might not take that very well?
Come on!
Bishop on April 28, 2009 at 11:18 PM
And explains my absolute hatred of judicial tyranny….
TheBigOldDog on April 28, 2009 at 11:19 PM
Laugh-In?
Jim Treacher on April 28, 2009 at 11:19 PM
Lindsey Graham (RINO-SC) was on Greta practically begging Tom Ridge to run in the Pennsylvania primary. Heh.
SouthernGent on April 28, 2009 at 11:19 PM
Exactly! I’m from Boston…South Boston.
TheBigOldDog on April 28, 2009 at 11:20 PM
canopfor:
I hope not. But then again it would not surprise me if it were true and Snowe turned. I would rather see her defeated straight up than see her turn. That is such a tacky thing to do.
But I guess they are saying that if you want us gone, we’ll go.
Terrye on April 28, 2009 at 11:20 PM
Not everybody, though, right? Certainly there are limits—You wouldn’t include Pelosi or Obama….
…or Specter?
A party, any party, has to stand for something. The Democrats stand for statism in it’s various flavors. We don’t need two statist parties. Specter is a statist.
FloatingRock on April 28, 2009 at 11:21 PM
You have no mercy sir! I like it!
AUINSC on April 28, 2009 at 11:21 PM
As is Frum.
FloatingRock on April 28, 2009 at 11:22 PM
Something is going to blow. Just don’t know what…
We will pay, but we will ALL pay for this. Just in different ways.
I don’t know if we will be able to overcome what is coming down the pike but the way I see it… It took Obama to wake a sleeping country up and at least most of us will go down fighting rather than comatose.
katy on April 28, 2009 at 11:22 PM
Hey, you have it pretty good in IN – they don’t tax every fricken thing. I think I may have asked you this before, but have you heard of Travis Hankins? You should keep him in mind… he looks promising…
Upstater85 on April 28, 2009 at 11:22 PM
The problem is this argument has conservatives supporting the likes of Chafee and Specter – let alone McCain or for that matter Bush.
It seems to me that liberals and moderates have held far too much power in the Republican party since the late 90s at least. That doesn’t mean there isn’t a place for real moderates, of course – but it should not be in leadership positions and they should not be allowed to grandstand for a preening press at our expense. The Democrats certainly don’t have this issue…
As a larger point though we should consider what a moderate is. As the Democrats have moved left, they, with the press’s help, have also moved what a moderate is to the left. So, if by moderate we mean someone who wants
socialized medicine – but less rigidly enacted then BO
abortion on demand by judicial decree – but without BO’s glee
higher taxes – but less then BO
etc
that isn’t a moderate whatever the press wishes to call him.
18-1 on April 28, 2009 at 11:24 PM
I haven’t identified with Republicans since Reagan.
FloatingRock on April 28, 2009 at 11:24 PM
It feels a lot like 1933 in the Weimar Republic…doesn’t it?
18-1 on April 28, 2009 at 11:15 PM
I don’t know, I wasn’t around then, but here where I live the people I interact with and shoot the breeze with are all just…edgy, for lack of a better term. People seem static, like they’re waiting for something big to happen.
Bishop on April 28, 2009 at 11:24 PM
If your curious, read this. Although incomplete it’s a decent enough summary. But this isn’t the time or place to discuss it.
TheBigOldDog on April 28, 2009 at 11:24 PM
Yeah, Specter really stood up for conservative values when the chips were down. Why didn’t he take Snowe and Collins with him?
GarandFan on April 28, 2009 at 11:25 PM
Terry, you add a lot to HA, but I’m afraid you just don’t get it……yet. Stop making excuses for these career politicians and saying we can’t win without them.
We can’t win with them anymore.
Knucklehead on April 28, 2009 at 11:25 PM
Der Kreiger:
Indiana voted for Obama, it was the first time a Democrat has won here in 40 years. Brad Ellsworth beat John Hostettler who was very conservative.
I don’t know, part of it might have been the war, but then again most Hoosiers are pretty conservative when it comes to things like that.
I think that a lot of people here got worried about free trade and NAFTA. People felt that Republicans were not concerned with the needs of working people and that they would take away their social security or kill their unions or whatever.
Indiana is not a socially liberal kind of place. This is a very pro life sort of state. But people are more isolationist and protectionist than some conservatives today seem to be.
Terrye on April 28, 2009 at 11:25 PM
Exactly – I’ve been saying this all day. We cannot let the Dems and MSM define what a moderate is. Especially what a GOP moderate is.
DerKrieger on April 28, 2009 at 11:26 PM
They are a bunch of Paulnuts… Sorry, couldn’t resist.
I just find it laughable that some GOPers would bend over backwards to keep Specter but would rather throw out the Pauls of the party…
Upstater85 on April 28, 2009 at 11:28 PM
Knucklehead:
I am not saying you can not win without them. I am saying that if you do not have someone who can win in his place going after him will not advance your cause. The people who really count are the people of Indiana and they like Lugar, they trust and respect him and they really do not care what you think about that. They will go right on voting for him. Now if he gets a primary challenge and he can be beat, I think he would probably retire before he would ever switch parties.
Terrye on April 28, 2009 at 11:28 PM
It took Obama to wake a sleeping country up and at least most of us will go down fighting rather than comatose.
katy on April 28, 2009 at 11:22 PM
Ya know, maybe that’s it, maybe a heavy dose of everything that is wrong about the demorat party and politicians in general is going to kick awake all those people who don’t take the time to get involved, be informed or vote.
I’m hoping some group of people somewhere organizes themselves well enough to be able to say “Eff you” to Oflyby and his minions, and then dare them to do something about it. If there is one thing the left lacks it is true courage and that could be their final undoing.
Bishop on April 28, 2009 at 11:28 PM
Wpstater:
Paul’s ties to the neoNazis and his anti semitism are just too much for me. sorry no can do.
Terrye on April 28, 2009 at 11:29 PM
Look Lugar is to the right enough that I wouldn’t feel comfortable chasing him out of the party… Let the people of Indiana do that. That’s essentially what they did to Specter.
Upstater85 on April 28, 2009 at 11:29 PM
I’ve been saying for years that the key to victory, IMO, is to win blue collar voters. We have to find a way to reconcile support for business and support for workers. The Dems have successfully managed to get the blue collar vote by portraying business as hostile to workers. It’s absurd. take Drill Here Drill Now for example. It’s we Conservatives that support that and it’s blue collar workers who would benefit most from a strong domestic energy policy. The Libs are hard at work destroying blue collar jobs, yet that voting block continues to vote for Dems. It’s insane.
DerKrieger on April 28, 2009 at 11:29 PM
…and waiting for something to blow.
Bishop on April 28,2009 at 11:10PM.
Bishop:
The Obama Administration is eerily mirroring the Clinton
terms.No sooner does a CRISIS happen,and when things get
hot for the Liberals,its,
whoooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooish,like a rollercoaster to the next CRISIS,and when the Liberals
F that up,its off to the next CRISIS!!
Meanwhile,just like the Clinton term,the Jihadys were busy
plotting and planning America’s demise!!
And while the Liberals are busy at Hunting down the RIGHT,
its becoming De-Jevu all over again!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!:)
canopfor on April 28, 2009 at 11:29 PM
Same old quote;
Diamondback, Timber, Sidewinder, all the same critter.
Limerick on April 28, 2009 at 11:31 PM
Was that photo to this thread taken today? Look at the happy smiley “journalists” surrounding Specter.
ddrintn on April 28, 2009 at 11:31 PM
El crapo,should be Dejavu,not Dejevu.
canopfor on April 28, 2009 at 11:32 PM
I’m with you brother…just replace “Clinton” with “Carter”…yep, I’m that old.
AUINSC on April 28, 2009 at 11:32 PM
OK, fair enough but I will point out two things.
1) He isn’t a neo-Nazi himself – they (NNs) just seem to like that he won’t be probing around in their lives too much.
2) Paulnuts would push for smaller government, so I wouldn’t be worrying about a neo-Nazi taking control.
I could deal with them.
Upstater85 on April 28, 2009 at 11:33 PM
Der Kreiger:
You are absolutely right about that. I have talked to people until I am blue in the face about this. They say the Democrats are for the working people and the Republicans are for the rich.
The same tired old class war fare crap we have been listening to for years.
Every now and then people get more concerned about national security and Republicans rise again, but this stubborn prejudice is still there.
Terrye on April 28, 2009 at 11:33 PM
One other point.
As political junkies, we all presume that people go out and vote for the candidate whose views most closely resemble their own. This is only true of a portion of the electorate. It might be a bare majority, it might be a large minority, but it is not what decides elections.
The decisive factor in elections is invariably the mushy middle which is mushy because it does not follow politics.
So, the argument that so and so is too right or left wing to win an election is a poor one. For a prime example of this look at our current president. He was sold as a moderate and a significant portion of “the middle” bought it even though it was trivial to see through the facade with a little research or an understanding of American politics. Consider that the leftists where as orgasmic for Obama as a candidate as we conservatives were aghast.
So realistically the best thing we on the right can do is find likable far right conservatives and push back against the media. The media is a major issue, but I think recent history has shown watering down the agenda to win over voters who have little idea what the agenda is not a good long term strategy.
18-1 on April 28, 2009 at 11:33 PM
Upstater:
I would not be surprised if there were not some Paul bots in the Tea Parties and I respect their opinions, but 9/11 as blowback? Sorry, he just strikes me as a creep.
Terrye on April 28, 2009 at 11:35 PM
I would like to think (it isn’t true today) that the Republican party is the party that empowers the individual – rich or poor. This is a big tent message that I haven’t really heard Specter or even McCain saying too much about.
Upstater85 on April 28, 2009 at 11:36 PM
He’ll lose to Sestak in the primary. Mark my woids.
Akzed on April 28, 2009 at 11:37 PM
But Paul has never said that 9/11 was an inside job.
Look, he does have his flaws, but I think some of his fans give him a negative image (because RINOs projected that image on him)
Will you agree that Paul will do more for the conservative cause than the Specters of the GOP? And who was mocked by the “big tent” GOPers?
Upstater85 on April 28, 2009 at 11:38 PM
What we need to be doing now is identifying what policies can be rolled back, which ones are going to require slow deconstruction, and which ones are going to be more pernicious. When hyperinflation hits and the rest of the fit hits the shan, the dems will be the ones running for cover — that is if we still have elections.
Also, where are the constitutional challenges to the actions underway? The bank takeovers, the government takeover of the auto business, retroactively changing rules for the power plant in New Mexico, or abrogating contracts by changing mortgage terms via judicial fiat — none of these actions are sanctioned in the constitution. Some of these go beyond regulating interstate and foreign commerce and fall into the government control and ownership thereof. Others abrogate states’ rights as enumerated in the Constitution — why isn’t anyone taking the fed to court to overturn these unconstitutional violations?
AZfederalist on April 28, 2009 at 11:38 PM
18-1:
I don’t know that the mushy middle would find a far right conservative likable.
I think most Americans thought Obama was a moderate. He is not acting like one, not to me, but I think they thought that when they elected him. And I think that most Americans thought Reagan and Bush were conservatives, but not hard core, not real far right. I doubt if they would have voted for them if they had.
Perhaps it is perception. Like you said those folks who do not follow politics that closely see things differently than we do.
Terrye on April 28, 2009 at 11:38 PM
I don’t know how many times I have talked with self described “moderates” whose position are not only indistinguishable from what passes for the main stream of the Democrat party, but will as times goes on continue to stay in that range.
Perhaps we should describe ourselves as moderates when queried also?
18-1 on April 28, 2009 at 11:39 PM
Upstater:
He said it was our fault. I am sorry, I am not saying that small government conservatives are bad or anything, but Ron Paul is just not someone I can ever be comfortable with.
Terrye on April 28, 2009 at 11:40 PM
OK, fair enough
There are certain things that he says that I don’t agree with – but I’m happy to live with him and would vote for him hands down over Specter…
Upstater85 on April 28, 2009 at 11:42 PM
Well there are moderates who might be pro life, free trade, fiscally conservative, but maybe they don’t really care about issues like gay marriage. Or maybe they are not as hawkish as some conservatives. Or maybe they are not against abortion in all instances. Or maybe they think that the idea that we will get rid of all social programs is not feasible and are willing to support some limited government safety net. Maybe they say they are moderate because they support embryonic stem cell research or the legalization drugs.
There are lots of reasons why people might call themselves moderates, but still be GOP.
Terrye on April 28, 2009 at 11:43 PM
If the candidate,who is on the Right,and is elected from
the Right voters,who have put he or she in office,
and then betray’s those voters,and joins Team Liberal,
or for that matter,simply votes Left all the time,
then,what recourse do the voters have who elected him!!
canopfor on April 28, 2009 at 11:43 PM
Which says two things: lefties can’t really get elected nationally, and the public is idiotic (in general).
ddrintn on April 28, 2009 at 11:43 PM
Yes he did! Paul of one of those types who is just crazy enough to sound good about 10% of the time, then sounds like a 100% batshit lunatic 90% of the time…bad news for the party. And yes, his acolytes who show up here don’t do his image any favors at all…there is a reason he attract “Roger Waters” here.
AUINSC on April 28, 2009 at 11:44 PM
Not enough of the country has yet awoken. I don’t know what it’s going to take, but I have a foreboding sense that it will require a disaster, and that a disaster is coming. Then, I think his support will slide away as quickly as the side of Mt. Saint Helens as it erupted.
Loxodonta on April 28, 2009 at 11:44 PM
You mean the Democrats now own completely and entirely every awful thing that will happen in the next year and a half? Awesome!!
therightwinger on April 28, 2009 at 11:44 PM
ddrintn:
I don’t know if they were idiotic, but I think they were duped. But will they admit it?
Terrye on April 28, 2009 at 11:45 PM
LOL. Very creative. Sign me up.
Sydney Carton on April 28, 2009 at 11:46 PM
Yes, awesome!!!
Own it and Love it
Wasn’t Specter one of the few GOP members that voted for the stimulus so long as influenza research funding was taken away…?
Hehehe
Upstater85 on April 28, 2009 at 11:47 PM
By the way, if anyone reads National Review, the two RINOs over there are sad that Specter left.
Sydney Carton on April 28, 2009 at 11:47 PM
It depends completely on how the person is sold to them now doesn’t it? Reagan (80/84), Bush 41 (88), Bush 43 (00/04) all ran as significantly conservative (though I would argue the latter two were moderates). And they all ran as like-able conservatives.
You can make a strong argument that we’ve elected the more like-able candidate (from the mushy middle’s view) in every election since perhaps 68.
18-1 on April 28, 2009 at 11:47 PM
You really disagree with 90% of what Paul says?
How much did you agree with Specter? 1%?
Upstater85 on April 28, 2009 at 11:47 PM
I agree we need to find likable conservatives. And with the internet and ads placed in the MSM, we get start drilling little holes in the wall they have built around Obama.
Loxodonta on April 28, 2009 at 11:48 PM
I think we just saw this begin on April 15th. We didn’t need a 501c3 to do it for us. When people feel threatened in a massive and radid way that is too much, too soon, they will organize themselves, as we did.
Obama kicked a hornets nest dude!
katy on April 28, 2009 at 11:49 PM
rapid=radid
katy on April 28, 2009 at 11:50 PM
Yeah, I’m becoming less and less a fan of NRO…
Upstater85 on April 28, 2009 at 11:50 PM
On the ‘Moderates’,years a go,a Republican called in,and
mentioned to Rush,he was a Moderate,Rush than said,Oh
your a ‘Fence Sitter’,just waiting to see which way the
Conservatives vote,and act accordingly!!
canopfor on April 28, 2009 at 11:50 PM
18-1
I don’t think the mushy middle thought that Reagan or Bush were far right. I don’t the far right thought they were far right either.
Conservatives are likable to non conservatives or mushy middle people when they seem reasonable and not scary, when they seem protective and not over bearing.
Terrye on April 28, 2009 at 11:50 PM
Rough estimate on Paul, but yeah, about 90% (most in the foreign/national defense policy area).
Specter…hard to say…I always knew he was a phony, even on the few occasions that he seemed to help his own party…so < 1% would be more accurate…card check is about the only thing that comes to mind, right off the bat.
AUINSC on April 28, 2009 at 11:50 PM
I’m sick of you meany head conservatives calling “moderates” RINOS!
*Leaves the GOP
therightwinger on April 28, 2009 at 11:51 PM
canopfor:
I don’t think that is really fair. The fact that someone is not a zealot, does not mean they lack principles. It might actually be the way they look at things.
Terrye on April 28, 2009 at 11:51 PM
Buh Bye!
AUINSC on April 28, 2009 at 11:52 PM
OK, foreign policy is less than 90% of the President’s job… So you must disagree with him on something else.
Upstater85 on April 28, 2009 at 11:52 PM
Frankly I would rather have Rod Blagojevich in the Republican party than this man.
I would rather have Rod Blagojevich in the Republican party than Arlen Specter too.
MB4 on April 28, 2009 at 11:52 PM
At least we’d be entertained… Plus he would provide endless Obama jokes.
Upstater85 on April 28, 2009 at 11:53 PM
Americans found Reagan likable, and he was quite conservative. And I suppose many Americans voted for Obama because they found him more likable than McCain, regardless of their politics. Likability is an extraordinary asset. When Republicans appear cold or out-of-touch or mean-spirited, it doesn’t matter what their policy positions are, their chances of winning are greatly reduced.
Many people are swayed by mushy perceptions. And that doesn’t mean such people are stupid, but it is the way people are.
Loxodonta on April 28, 2009 at 11:54 PM
MB4:
Hot Rod??
I don’t think that Specter just got in trouble because he was too moderate or something, I think the guy is a kook, an arrogant prick. Maybe the people of PA. are just tired of him.
Terrye on April 28, 2009 at 11:55 PM
Oh, I wasn’t referring to Frum…
Frum’s a kill switch.
Upstater85 on April 28, 2009 at 11:55 PM
I’m kidding. So many of these moderates (liberals) act like they don’t even want to be in the GOP. Noone’s forcing them to be..
therightwinger on April 28, 2009 at 11:55 PM
I don’t think that is really fair.
Terrye on April 28,2009 at 11:51PM.
Terrye:Fair or not,that was Rush’s definition!:)
canopfor on April 28, 2009 at 11:56 PM
Very good write up. Thanks for sharing.
deidre on April 28, 2009 at 11:56 PM
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